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Scott Wolter Accepts "Award" from Accused Racist, Declares Quetzalcoatl "White" European

5/11/2014

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Last month Scott Wolter accepted a made-up award from a controversial podcaster known for racially inflammatory statements for what the latter described as Wolter’s “pioneering” work promoting the “truth” about the early history of the white race in North America.
On April 22, Scott Wolter appeared on The Right Perspective podcast, and the show’s host, “Frank from Queens,” was celebrating World Solutrean Day. Under the authority of the so-called World Council of Solutrean Elders, the host declared Wolter their Solutrean 2014 Man of the Year and awarded him a fictitious quasi-Paleolithic name, “He Who has been Blessed by the Ancestors.” Frank from Queens, who does not identify himself with a surname, said that Scott Wolter is a “pioneer” revealing the “truth” about the Solutrean conquest of North America “40,000 years ago,” which makes white Europeans the first Americans.

“That’s a high honor, and I sure appreciate it,” Wolter said. He seemed genuinely surprised by Frank’s award and somewhat flummoxed by it. “Thank you so much,” he told Frank.

So far as I can tell the “Council of Solutrean Elders” was made up by Frank himself, as was World Solutrean Day, an alleged holiday Frank has promoted since at least 2009.

Frank from Queens became locally famous for his frequent and aggressive calls to New York area radio talk shows, and he started The Right Perspective because he felt that conservative talk radio went too far in censoring his most extreme rightwing opinions, according to his podcast’s website. The podcast, which also airs over shortwave radio, bills itself as New York’s “most conservative” broadcast.

Frank is also more than a little racially insensitive in his language, talking about “Asiatics” and “Caucasians” (which he pronounces caw-cay-zeean), and rejecting the idea that Kennewick Man could be non-Caucasian because he “looks like Patrick Stewart.” Frank is also “very angry” because the reburial of Kennewick Man’s grave is a “crime against science” that is “completely covering up” the possibility that white people once had a civilization in the Northwest. Even Scott Wolter seems a little uncomfortable by some of Frank’s loud and angry assertions, though he offers mild agreement that reburying the site “raises some red flags.”

But let’s not mince words. Frank from Queens is a known racist who was cited by Anti-Racist Canada for his extreme “White Nationalist” views. Anti-Racist Canada quoted Frank as follows:
Please tune into The Right Perspective on the week of April 20 for World Solutrean Day! Please, tell your children that Our Great White Solutrean Ancestors settled this land and were destroyed! Ours were a peaceful people, who welcomed the Beringians in peace, and were paid back in DEATH! They left little trace, because they honoured nature and lived lightly on the land. Their great cities were organic entities that blended with nature, not against it! They had no word for WAR, but were a kind, peaceful, gentle, loving people. Our elders teach us this, and you must teach others! One People, One Culture, One Race!

Remember, the Berigians teach of "Great White Gods" who taught the arts of civilization to them. These are the history of Solutrean Ancestors told in myth. The proof is here as it always was, but is being suppressed. Mexico will find more Solutrean proof, and the proof won't be buried as it is happening here! They aren't P.C. idiots who are afraid to "offend" the Beringians. Civilizations build upon the older ones. Thus, as ever, it is proved. So therefore, I predict that deep with the Mexico valley where Mexico City is, they will one day find the remains of a vast Solutrean City! Our ancestors have slept for tens of thousands of years, but their voices won't be stilled!
Frank’s podcast twice hosted South African white separatist Eugène Terre’Blanche, who had called for a white-dominated Boer homeland, and he extensively covered his 2010 murder by a black man, eulogizing the controversial politician as a hero.

This information is not hard to find, and it turns up in even a cursory Google search for Frank and his podcast. In fact, Frank from Queens has been widely known as a racist since at least 1994, when New York magazine described him as such in its October 24 issue. There, the magazine quoted Frank from Queens as describing minorities as “human garbage” and students at historically black Howard University as “savages” and “rabid dogs.” Frank called Martin Luther King, Jr. a “whoremonger” and praised Louisianans who voted for David Duke.

Frank also was quoted as calling gay people “sexual degenerates and perverts.”

Why does Wolter associate himself with known racists and hatemongers? It is hard to imagine how Scott Wolter could be ignorant of Frank’s views, especially since this was Wolter’s third appearance on the podcast. If he claims otherwise, he is either disingenuous or singularly obtuse.

I reached out to A+E Networks, the parent of H2, for a response, and my question was redirected to the new publicist for H2. As of press time the network has not responded. I will post when and if H2 chooses to respond.

In this edition of the show, Frank talks about more white people whose ancient remains have been “suppressed” and explains his reasons for believing archaeology is trying to hide Old World dominance over the ancient Americas: “There is from the archaeological establishment I believe a conspiracy to suppress evidence in this. It’s almost anti-Copernican. They live by an orthodoxy, and they don’t want that orthodoxy upset” because of their financial interest in the Clovis paradigm. He talks about how America Unearthed “pulled me into a whirling vortex of Solutrean memory,” and it is plainly evident that Frank from Queens has reasons far beyond science for wanting to see the Solutrean hypothesis installed in school textbooks. As we saw from his quoted comments above, he believes that Native Americans (or “Beringians” as he calls them, for he feels they are interlopers in a White Eden) committed genocide against his ancient white heroes.

Wolter agrees with Frank that academics are suppressing the truth to protect “old” ideas, which is of course ironic since Wolter’s ideas first appeared in the late 1700s and early 1800s among imperialists and anti-Masonic conspiracy theorists.

Wolter tells Frank that “it’s going to become an accepted fact that the Templars were here” as a result of his research, and he agrees with Frank that science “isn’t any different than the Inquisition” because of the politics and suppression of truth. It was not clear that Wolter understood that Frank was referring specifically to truths related to the white race.

Frank asks Wolter about Quetzalcoatl, whom he considers to be a Caucasian: “How could people who were totally isolated from the Old World, how could they have described a bearded white men from the east when we know that (1) Berinigians don’t grow bears, and (2) if you haven’t seen a white man, why didn’t they describe him as purple?” Wolter laughs and agrees: “He was probably bearded white man from the east. It’s probably that simple. That’s a factual statement. It’s a true statement. That’s who this person was.” Wolter says that academics refuse to admit that Quetzalcoatl was white.

This is false on many levels. First, Native Americans can and do grow beards. Second, Quetzalcoatl was not called white in genuine pre-Conquest Aztec sources. There he is typically depicted as having black or green skin, and where he is associated with the color white, it is in his role as the guardian of the west, which the Aztecs sometimes identified with the color white. Nevertheless, Wolter appears to believe that Native Americans literally worshiped white Europeans as gods.

The idea of a white Quetzalcoatl comes from a description first offered not by the Aztecs but by Gerónimo de Mendieta in Historia eclesiastica Indiana 2.10: “He was a white man, of portly person, broad brow, great eyes, long black hair, and large round beard” (trans. Hubert Howe Bancroft). He was probably citing research conducted by Andrés de Olmos after 1533. This was amplified by Juan de Torquemada in Monarchia Indiana 6.24, who is obviously citing Mendieta: “It is said of Quetzalcoatl that he was a white man, large-bodied, broad-browed, great-eyed, with long black hair, and a beard heavy and rounded. […] The people also of Yucatan reverenced this god Quetzalcoatl, calling him Kukulcan, and saying that he came to them from the west, that is, from New Spain, for Yucatan is eastward therefrom” (trans. Hubert Howe Bancroft).

Most scholars after the 1960s have considered this to be a Spanish imposition with little grounding in actual Aztec or Maya lore. While the Aztec may have sought to identify the Spanish with the returning gods, most now believe that the detail of white skin came about later, after the Conquest. References to the east reference the land from which Quetzalcoatl was expected to return, not whence he first came.

After this, Fred asks Wolter more questions about, and I quote, “great white gods” in the Americas, and Wolter talks about why scientists need to accept “inscriptions” as evidence, while Fred talks about the need to find more “white” skeletons. Wolter then claims that the Smithsonian purposely suppressed white skeletons—“the ones you and I are looking for”—in order to bury the truth about prehistoric white visitors. He accuses the Smithsonian of “destroying” the bones of pre-Columbian white visitors to America.

Frank concluded the show by reminding listeners to call Native Americans “Berinigians,” presumably to deny them indigenous status. Wolter uttered no condemnation of these racist remarks and instead thanked Frank from Queens for awarding him a Solutrean honor in the name of what Frank sees as the Solutreans murdered by the “Beringians” in a race war.

During the podcast, Wolter seemed not to fully recognize attempts by Frank to direct the conversation back to white dominance, but in repeatedly agreeing with Frank, Wolter gave the impression that ancient white people are
“the ones you and I are looking for.”
172 Comments
KIF
5/11/2014 02:42:27 am

At least Lewis Spence had the intellectual integrity to rebuke the Nazis, castigating them as Satanists

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.
5/11/2014 05:10:33 am

true...

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Steve StC - of course
5/11/2014 10:40:58 pm

The Rosslyn myths are all made up
They didn't exist before

Steve StC
5/11/2014 03:14:05 pm

"…accepted a made-up award…"
Aren't all awards "made up"? Isn't the Academy Award "made up"? Isn't the Nobel Peace Prize made up? Or are you saying they were created by God when he created the universe?

Jason-and-his-keyboard had a decision to make this morning. Does he launch a blog post celebrating Moms Who Hate Difusionism? Or does he launch a blog post based on "news" that happened a month ago that supports his overwhelming hatred of SW?

Easy decision for Jason-and-his-keyboard.

Jason-and-his-keyboard "reached out to A+E Networks, the parent of H2, for a response, and " his "question was redirected to the new publicist for H2. As of press time the network has not responded." I can't imagine why. Maybe because you're so completely transparent.

Saturday, May 10th, 2014 - Jason's blog post, "On Irving Finkel's "The Ark Before Noah" was launched.
Sunday, May 11, 2014 - This hateful blog post is launched.

So, when exactly did you reach out to A+E Networks for a response, you journalist, you? Did you expect them to answer you on Saturday, or on Sunday (Mother's Day)?? I'm sure hate bloggers like you are high on their list of people to get right back to, but demanding a response by press time on Mother's Day morning is pressing your luck, you well-trained Blogger-Journalist, you.

When did you reach out to A+E??? Be precise, because I can check up on you. I know people there. DON'T DODGE THIS QUESTION, JASON.

"It was not clear that Wolter understood that Frank was referring specifically to truths related to the white race."

No, Jason, it was very clear that Scott doesn't delineate "white race" in his ideas of the Templars who came over here first. In fact, Scott wouldn't raise an eyebrow if there were members of the Knights Templars whose ethnicity was from Africa. To suggest otherwise is to suggest that SW is a racist, Jason, you hateful, despicable, filthy race baiter.

"During the podcast, Wolter seemed not to fully recognize attempts by Frank to direct the conversation back to white dominance…"

Precisely, you hateful, filthy race baiter. Scott doesn't recognize it because he doesn't agree with Frank's ideas.

Admit that SW is not racist, Jason, you despicable, cowardly race baiter. Oh, that's right - you can fall back to your other favorite phase. If you're a diffusionist, then you're either a racist or "functionally racist." There is no middle ground with Jason, the race baiter.

Happy Mother's Day to Jason and his race baiting acolytes.

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John
5/11/2014 03:36:58 pm

Wow. Class act buddy. Still doesn't explain why, if Scott was so uncomfortable with Frank's speech that he was still willing to stay on it. And considering the fact that Frank is a white supremacist on a well known radio program started by Hal Turner, who is also a well known Neo-Nazi and white nationalist. If Scott was remotely responsible he would have just gone on some show like Coast-to-coast. Not a garbage right-wing network that supports the politics of racists and anti-Semites.

Walt
5/11/2014 03:53:22 pm

Heh, I'm glad somebody else pointed out that all awards are made up. I laughed out loud at Jason's bias when I read it, but didn't even bother pointing it out since nobody learns anything new here.

As for Scott, you should try to get him to be as vocal as you are. It's one thing for him to associate with racists without the issue coming up, but in this interview he allowed blatant racism to go unanswered.

Tara Jordan link
5/11/2014 04:44:23 pm

@Steve
Years ago,I had an extensive correspondence with Doug Christie,Ernst Zündel`s former layer,because I was writing a paper on historical revisionism & negationism within the context of international laws.I was planning to have direct contact with Zündel himself,but due to particular circumstances,I never did.(I personally consider that putting people in prison for expressing offensive opinions,is an abomination,but I digress).

I went through a lot of heat for addressing the issue,but no one ever accused me of being racist or a negationist apologist,probably because I never intended on using these individuals to promote my personal work.

If you value Scott Wolter as a personal friend,as much as you pretend,you should
advice him to be more careful with the individuals he associates with.

I wouldn't mind having Wolter talking to a known racist or a neo Nazi,if Scott was doing researches on topics related to these "ideologies",but using someone like Frank Joseph as reference for his work,or appearing on show produced by "Frank from Queens",is definitively a bad move.

Steve StC
5/11/2014 05:00:55 pm

Tara and Walt,

You've both made the same point and I agree. I will talk to SW about this. I doubt he thinks of such appearances as promotion of AU. Scott is one of the least judgmental people I know, perhaps to a fault.

Incidentally, I was on the same show in the run-up to the 2008 Atlantic Conference in Nova Scotia. I was traveling when the approach was made and didn't check up on their motives. While on the show, it was clear that they had some strange ideas and negative views. I simply avoided the subject. I'm sure Jason-and-his-keyboard will now go back in their archives and dig out the show to use it against me. I sincerely hope you do, Jason.

I've listened to this show and don't hear SW agreeing in any way. Jason-and-his-keyboard like to claim guilt by association so as to make SW look racist - that is very clear by now, Jason - but it's getting tiresome. In fact, I think it's safe to say that Jason and his race-baiting are making him look far less than the sort-of-academic he aspires to be.

Tara Jordan link
5/11/2014 05:30:47 pm

Steve
I may have crossed the line on many occasions in regard to Scott,but I wouldn't accuse him of being a racist or a neo Nazi (or even linking him to such individuals),because I see nothing in his work, that leads me to consider him to be one.
A couple of months ago,Scott & myself had a very interesting and civil conversation on his blog.Scott knew exactly who I am.I never hidden the fact that I was the Tara Jordan from Jason`s blog.Despite this fact,Scott showed extreme courtesy during our exchanges.I told him I had issues with his methodology,the quality & material integrity of his researches,but I also told him that I refused to jump on the "guilty by association" bandwagon.This is not the proper way to engage in a critical process.
Having said that,I honestly think,you should have a conversation with Scott about his professional & personal associations,because what he does,is not helping him.

Steve StC
5/11/2014 05:36:51 pm

I appreciate the input, Tara, and I definitely will speak to Scott about this.

Isn't it time that "Only Me" (whoever he really is) chimed in here?

Also, isn't it time that Jason-and-his-keyboard chimed in with half an answer?

Walt
5/11/2014 05:48:54 pm

Scott really does come off as a nice guy who loves to talk to anybody about anything. I haven't actually been convinced of anything he's covered on AU, but I still watch just because he's obviously having fun doing what he's doing, and it makes for entertaining TV, unless you're the angry, bitter type of course.

In the interview, Scott never agrees and Jason even pointed out twice that Scott may not have understood a couple of the references to racism. But, not agreeing isn't quite enough for me when the subject gets brought up like it did. I normally don't care too much what gets said about Scott here, but this one is disappointing.

I understand his nature may lead him to just steer clear of racism, but the "Solutrean Man Of The Year" award he accepted is steeped in it. He should denounce it. Even if the theory is true, there's no scientific evidence that Solutreans were white.

Walt
5/11/2014 06:05:33 pm

Steve, I could probably tell you in advance how Jason will deny his "award" bias and how he'll explain the difference between "legitimate" and "made-up" awards, but then I'd just be spoiling it for everyone else who hasn't already banged their head against that wall.

Tara Jordan link
5/11/2014 06:09:51 pm

In order to understand the reactions,I think we have to to understand the general mindset in regard to issues related to extreme political ideologies,particularly on the right.
Most "proper minded citizens" are intellectually terrified at the idea of debating with racists or individuals associated with racist or supremacist ideologies.They consider that we should lock these individuals behind bars,and ignore their messages.I take the extreme opposite approach,I think we have to engage them & debunk them through rational & non emotional debates.
Despite having Jewish descent,I talk with these people all the time,and they don't make me sweat a bit.
Moral hysteria doesn't prevent racist ideologies from spreading & infecting societies,it helps the process and feeds the monsters.

Only Me
5/11/2014 06:31:04 pm

I'm here, Steve. What do you want?

Jason Colavito link
5/11/2014 11:52:17 pm

All awards are made up by someone, but this one was made up by one individual and does not appear to be recognized by any outside media or groups. If I instead said only that Wolter accepted an award, Steve would blast me for pretending that Frank's award had import beyond Frank from Queens. In other words, Steve's only concern is protecting Scott Wolter from criticism.

Also: Why does Steve think that blog posts are posted the minute I write them? Wolter appeared on the show on April 22, so why does Steve think I started writing it only hours before posting?

Steve seems not to want to explain how Wolter ended up on this show three times, not just once, or why he has never denounced Frank's racists views. Accepting Frank's "award" crosses over into becoming an active participant in Frank's worldview. Wolter should have refused the "honor" and denounced Frank's white supremacist ideology.

But, again, Steve uses the techniques of propaganda, particularly Frank Luntz's loaded language techniques, to try to distract attention from the fact: Wolter went on a racist's podcast and accepted the Man of the Year award for service to what Frank from Queens himself identified as the white race.

Tara Jordan link
5/12/2014 02:49:21 am

Jason.
I think you are making a tough call on this one.
For going on Frank`s shows on 3 occasions,Wolter was not smart enough.
For refusing to acknowledge & denounce the racist views express by the host of the show,Wolter was not brave enough.
For using Frank Joseph as reference & Frank from Queens radio podcast to promote his work,Wolter has demonstrated that he is the victim of his own vanity & ambition.There is enough rope to get the man,without calling him a racist.
As far as I am concerned,it is extremely difficult & hazardous to label someone as racist unless that individual has explicitly express racist views.
My two pennies worth....

bamclaugh
5/12/2014 02:57:11 am

Tara, perhaps I misunderstand your comment. But it makes me think about the old political story about the reporter who asked a senator if he was still beating his wife. Thought the senator never beat his wife the insinuation was there. By suggesting that Jason called SW a racist does not seem to acknowledge the point that he has repeatedly said the SW is NOT a racist. Some others here have often chastised Jason with this false allegation and like any insinuation often and loudly repeated, it begins to take on a life of its own.

Jason Colavito link
5/12/2014 03:04:43 am

Scott Wolter is not a racist, but he seems to be willfully blind to the racial motivations of those who pursue the same line of argument. This leads to outrageous situations like this one, where he seems genuinely oblivious to the fact that he accepted an award from a racist for service to the white race.

Tara Jordan link
5/12/2014 03:09:58 am

Jason.
Thanks for the clarification.I totally agree with your latest comment.

Tara Jordan link
5/12/2014 03:12:50 am

bamclaugh
I am pleased with Jason`s latest comment.There is no ambiguity.I apologize for the confusion.

Matt Mc
5/12/2014 03:18:14 am

Tara,

I mostly agree with you. I think however Scott is well aware that a portion of his audience has racial motivations. I think his lack of rebuttal of the claims from those with racial motivations comes from his own understanding that they do buy his books and watch his show and they are willing to provide him with a place for him to promote his ideas.

I do not think Scott is a racist at all, I do think he more then willing to sell his ideas and products to them regardless if he agrees with them. He most likely does not care if they use his ideas to forward their agenda as long as they continue to give him promotion, book sales, and increased rating. So while Scott might not be a racist by not addressing, confronting, and continuing to use them to help promote and publish his material he is accepting of the ideas they promote. I think he is more than smart enough to realize they are an audience that will buy into his products and acts accordingly.

Again I hope I am wrong about this assessment and he simple is not bright enough to notice the intentions of these people but I doubt that.

Tara Jordan link
5/12/2014 03:44:28 am


Matt.
I am confident that Steve St Clair will talk about this issue with Scott.
I disagree with Steve on just about everything & despite our personal antagonism,I believe him to be a decent man.
Thanks for the feedback

Matt Mc
5/12/2014 04:01:58 am

Tara, I hope so. Like you I might disagree with Scott on many things and I might come across as sarcastic at times but I do wish the best for him in his career as a fringe author. I do think Scott is a very smart person and a little retweaking of his overall approach and he could be a good thing for the fringe world. I think he still does not truly understand what a public persona is. Like his dealings with racist I was also troubled by him bringing his family into the show. These blending real life with TV life always lead to trouble down the road.

All he needs is a few good friends and others to help point out the mistakes and missteps, which in any career is a good thing to have.

Varika
5/12/2014 10:52:33 am

"it was very clear that Scott doesn't delineate "white race" in his ideas of the Templars who came over here first. In fact, Scott wouldn't raise an eyebrow if there were members of the Knights Templars whose ethnicity was from Africa."

Well if there were, he SHOULD, since the Knights Templar were NOBILITY from EUROPE. It was rather required in order to BE a Knight Templar. There were no black nobility in Europe at the time; in fact, Europe was disturbingly, frighteningly racist at the time. So if there were no black Templars, and anyone who knows even a little bit about medieval history knows this, either your good buddy Scott Wolter is a piss-poor researcher who needs to go back to Freshman English for a refresher, or he expects all Templars to be white. It's that simple.

" "During the podcast, Wolter seemed not to fully recognize attempts by Frank to direct the conversation back to white dominance…"

Precisely, you hateful, filthy race baiter. Scott doesn't recognize it because he doesn't agree with Frank's ideas."

Dude, I don't agree with your attacks on Jason, but I still RECOGNIZE them for what they are. You are not helping Wolter's cause, here; you just make him sound like a first-class idiot. Some friend you are!

william
5/12/2014 11:49:30 am

At the risk of sounding cliched, isn't this fable what this debate is about?

Aesop: The Ass and his Purchaser

A man who wanted to buy an Ass went to market, and, coming across
a likely-looking beast, arranged with the owner that he should be
allowed to take him home on trial to see what he was like. When he
reached home, he put him into his stable along with the other asses.
The newcomer took a look round, and immediately went and chose a place next to the laziest and greediest beast in the stable. When the master saw this he put a halter on him at once, and led him off and handed him over to his owner again. The latter was a good deal surprised to seem him back so soon, and said, "Why, do you mean to say you have
tested him already?" "I don't want to put him through any more tests,"
replied the other. "I could see what sort of beast he is from the
companion he chose for himself."

Moral: "A man is known by the company he keeps."

Corny, but this seems to be the crux of the debate.

Steve StC
5/12/2014 01:54:00 pm

"Varika" (or whoever he is), as usual, doesn't know his elbow from his medieval history. This is like shooting fish in a bucket.

Varika proclaimed, "…the Knights Templar were NOBILITY from EUROPE."
No Varika, they weren't all or even overwhelmingly "nobility". They were overwhelmingly NOT nobility. To belong to the Order of the Temple meant one had to give up their marriage, their lands, and their money. Nobility were far less likely to do this. In fact, only a very few nobility ever joined the order.

Strike 1.

"…either your good buddy Scott Wolter is a piss-poor researcher who needs to go back to Freshman English for a refresher, or he expects all Templars to be white…" This only points out your lack of understanding of medieval history, and the Order of the Temple. Not all members of the Order of the Temple were white. It was in no way required. One example - Spain. By the Eighth Century, the Moors had conquered large parts of Spain. They were typically of an Arab or Berber ethnicity - not exclusively white "NOBILITY" as our history expert Varika (or whatever his name is) proclaims. The Moors in Spain had crossed over from North Africa (Morocco). This left plenty of time for interracial mixing by the time of the rise of the Templars, 300 years later. And there was a large Templar presence in medieval Spain. This means that non-whites were well-represented in the Order of the Temple.

Before you make other such statements, go walk in the Alhambra. I have. It's a beautiful place, built by an enterprising people as capable as your European "NOBILITY". To discount inter-marrying and mixing of races in Spain pre-Templar is to ignore real history.

Strike 2.

"You are not helping Wolter's cause, here; you just make him sound like a first-class idiot." Reaaaaaalllly? In my experience, standing up to Internet hatred works. It is the only way to shut down those who incite hatred on the web. SW stands or falls on his own. I am here to point out to Jason-and-his-keyboard's acolytes that there is an alternative view on his work, his credibility, and his professionalism.

Strike 3.

Only Me
5/12/2014 06:23:40 pm

"In my experience, standing up to Internet hatred works. It is the only way to shut down those who incite hatred on the web."

I would agree with you whole-heartedly, Steve, except for one critical point. Since your reappearance on this blog, your behavior has been combative, disruptive and abusive. You mock Jason's name; you condescendingly call his readers acolytes, sycophants and followers; your attacks on Jason directly are insult-laden and you make accusations meant to demean. These are not the arguments of a rational, reasonable man. This is the last option of someone who didn't have an argument to make.

I bear no enmity toward you or Phil, but you have mistakenly believed my purpose is to defend Jason at all costs, and Phil seems to think we are friends, though I've said more than once I've never met Jason or know him personally. My issue is addressing the abusive behavior and the use of deception to silence the opposition.

A one-time commenter once attacked Phil for being a reverend and representative of his faith; I chastised that person for it. The same happened to Gunn because of his faith; I called that individual out, too. That's why I have a problem with "personalize, propagandize and perpetuate". Personalizing every written word about Scott, using propaganda to support it and perpetuating these efforts endlessly reveal the absence of a substantive counterargument.

The point is this: Scott chose to become a public figure. As long as he promotes his ideas in every medium available, he is fair game for criticism. When he freely associates with men whose ideas are founded in controversial and offensive ideology, he can expect to be criticized for that, also. Collaborating with these tarnished men threaten his own image. You and I are white, but we purposely avoid KKK rallies and neo-Nazi conventions because, (1) we don't share their beliefs and (2) we already know being seen with them calls into question why we were there. This questioning by others isn't a conspiracy to harm. It's human nature. I've said before that Scott needed to practice more objectivity, to avoid putting himself in such a precarious position. I'm glad that you will talk with him about this, before human nature leads to more damage of his public image.

You may want to stand up to hatred, but you can't do so when you share in the guilt of inciting hatred. Neither can Phil. No more twisting of words to make baseless accusations, no more repeating of lies, no more insults and labels, no more mocking through pet names or "Scott Wolter Watches", please. I, too, will be more mindful of my language, but remember, like anyone else, my responses depend on how I'm addressed. No one likes to be pushed around. I hope you are successful in convincing Scott to be a better steward of his reputation.

Tara Jordan link
5/12/2014 09:32:11 pm

Only Me,Steve St Clair,Jason

We are all guilty of the same type of disruptive & offensive behavior(at least I was in the past).We all have strong convictions & are extremely passionate,but why don't we all try to act as adults & tear down the inflammatory rhetoric?.
I believe we have enough arguments to engage in proper debates without resorting to vitriolism.

I guess I am trying to reach out to you, Steve.We might disagree on everything but considering your reaction to the racist "sous entendu",apparently we also share some common values.I am glad we do.
Steve,let`s have a talk "off channel",You may contact me through my Facebook.If you don't mind,I`ll also hit you through your Facebook page.I have nothing to hide but I you certainly understand my reticence at putting my email address on a public forum.

Jason
I have been following you for years,trying to participate in a constructive manner.I appreciate what you do,& since I respect you,I`ll be as honest & straightforward as possible.You are smart,tough & mature enough to handle my criticism & take it for what it`s worth.
There is no doubt that most of your articles are quality materials,nevertheless some particular pieces are borderline gossip.I don't need to be on the "opposite side" to understand their frustration & anger.I am aware that this is your blog and you do as you please on your own property.I have no intention on patronizing or lecturing you,I am merely giving you a piece of my mind.
Again, take it for what it`s worth.

Normandie Kent
10/31/2017 05:24:41 am

So the pathetic " Frank from Queens" and Loser Scott W. has to appropriate Psuedo Native American Cultural Naming patterns and customs, because they have no White European ones they can think of?! Lol! How pathetic! Also Solutreans that MAY have come over would of been a small subset of the larger population that stayed, but then were wiped out by the new Magdalenians , who were wiped out by the modern Europeans, Middle eastern farmer ancestors. So that would mean that only all modern Native Americans are the best proxy for the ancient European and Siberian upper Paleolithic Hunter and Maritime-Fisherman seafarers. It looks like modern Europeans are newcomers to Europe, and even later comers to the Americas. Poor Frank he must be feeling quite inadequate lately, Scotty W. is a joke, so is his show! Ha! Find some real European culture In Europe dude, your looking in all the wrong places, before Muslims build mosques on Stonehenge and The hill of Tara! Dopes!

CFC
5/12/2014 03:27:40 pm

Great job Jason! Looking forward to hearing if you get a response from the H2 contact person.

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Seeker
5/18/2014 11:07:46 am

Yes, I'd really like to hear if H2 responds to Jason. For what it's worth, I just wrote to H2 and its networks to share that I recently learned about this dubious honor and am deeply concerned about it. I recommend others do the same if they're still concerned.

I'm very doubtful I'll get a response, but SW needs to politely and publicly denounce the award and the podcast host's views.

SW desperately needs a good publicist, and if he does have one, he or she is not on top of things. I agree it only takes a five minute internet search to discover the ideology behind this podcast and its website. I can understand how someone might want to go on this show to have a debate with its hosts but to appear three times and be ignorant of the ideology / to not directly confront it is inconceivable to me.

Mandalore
5/11/2014 02:44:47 am

Well this should set off a few people to defend their personal friend Scott Wolter. I don't think Wolter is racist, but he sure does make poor choices in who he hangs out with. The issue seems to be more of a willingness on his part to associate with anyone who will give him a venue to push his own controversial ideas. One of his close personal friends needs to have a talk with him.

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KIF
5/11/2014 02:57:54 am

One word explains it: Publicity.

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Uncle Ron
5/11/2014 05:09:02 am

Agreed. And given the vast amount of wasted verbiage the last time SW was mentioned here I suggest that when his friend does chime in we all simply refuse to respond. He is a provocateur and this is his game. Let's not encourage him by participating.

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[jad]
5/11/2014 05:31:38 am

try to be very polite to the "Rev" as we all sit back and wonder
what sort of a salary level and degree SW's PR person needs
in order to put a better spin on this all. O Tempores, O Mores!

Jerome Viveiros link
5/11/2014 04:11:37 am

As a South African, I'm surprised to hear that anybody in the US supported Eugène Terre’Blanche... That man was a joke and anybody who associated with him is also.

I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised though; as a white South African male, I had to spend a year in conscription, "national service" in the old South Africa, and there I was surprised to discover many white racists who preached a perverted, bastardized Christianity which had racism written into it. Racists always find ways of justifying their racism and building it into their world-views, which are based on their racist ideas and not reality or history at all.

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Matt Mc
5/11/2014 04:14:43 am

I also have found in life that most racist have a tendency to say I am not a racist and deny claims of racism placed upon themselves and their associates.

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Varika
5/12/2014 10:59:52 am

...I hate to say it, but it's not really very hard to twist Christianity into a racist version thereof, given that the Jews of the Old Testament were--and given the history of the time, not unreasonably--really, really racist, and in the New Testament, weren't precisely as open and accepting as many modern Christians would like to believe. (The Epistles aren't exactly kind to non-Christians.)

Also, I don't find it particularly surprising. Disgusting and stupid, but not surprising. The US is full of people who will latch onto ANYTHING in order to be "elite" in some way, and supporting racist groups and people tends to be a popular one.

...and before anyone jumps to the conclusion that that's a Wolter slam, I was thinking more of rednecks, Westboro Baptists, KKK, neo-Nazis, cultists, etc....you know, all the idiot groups that were around WAY before Wolter's father was even an embryo.

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Mark E.
5/11/2014 05:03:54 am

Wow! Wolter accepted an award from people that sourced their ideas from Kyle Bristow's "White Apocalypse"? Am I getting this right?

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5/11/2014 05:06:14 am

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5/11/2014 05:06:56 am

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5/11/2014 05:08:08 am

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Gunn link
5/11/2014 05:08:08 am

Just a reminder that, going back well past ten thousand years ago, there may not have been any white people. I should see a study about this. Does anybody know when white people first showed up on the scene...anywhere?

So if twenty or forty thousand years ago there may not have even been white people, some of the personalities being discussed here may be making claims in vain. I would suppose that white skin came about by way of DNA changes over a period of time, with certain people being somewhat isolated, also. Mutations or environmental influences began turning darker skin light, or both working in combination. So, the discussion may be more about geographical origins than skin color, in my opinion, when we go back far enough.

Ancient skeletons will tell us more, and stone tools and weapons. There seems to be evidence that inhabitants from the coast of Europe migrated to ancient America, by studying hunting tools and weapons. Evidently, specific spear-making technology here in America was just like that in Europe at some point. It doesn't seem likely in my mind that the exact method of spear-point manufacture would spring up independently. Look at the details.

So, what color were these people from Southern France and Spain, if they did make it to America's east coast...at least enough to spread specific tool-making technology? Maybe they were already turning white, maybe not. Maybe the white people originated from another area and migrated within Europe. Most likely, there were no white people at all on earth when you go back far enough, so the modern race-baiting being discussed here becomes vain, at least in the debate about the earliest peopling of the New World.

(So that there would be no reason or excuse for any racism, based on skin color.)

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[jad]
5/11/2014 05:14:00 am

Gunn... even so, i really pity Sw's PR person,
if they have an intact ethics code & an internal
compass, they just went thru a TUMs bottle!!!!

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Walt
5/11/2014 05:31:33 am

Beyond the Tums, if Wolter is really someone people care about, appearing on that podcast 3 times should be enough to lose the AU gig, in this era of political correctness. Unfortunately for him, I think him being able to keep his job means nobody gives a damn about anything he thinks or says.

[jad]
5/11/2014 05:35:48 am

back in 2oo8 Alex Jones helped Dr. Ron Paul's POTUS bid.
however, this type of award would turn Rep. Paul Ryan into
a bigger pariah inside the GOP if he accepted it than that
stint on Alex Jones's show did. (same goes for Rand Paul!)

[jad]
5/11/2014 05:53:19 am

Mr. Alex Jones is infamous for both helping
and hurting Dr. Ron Paul's POTUS ambitions.
All publicity hath price. To whit no publicity is
100% free even if you don't pay for it out of your
own pocket. SW is not a total idiot, i will say he's
educated. He's an adult man. He has a TV show.

Varika
5/12/2014 11:02:30 am

"in this era of political correctness"

You mean in this era of defiance against political correctness? And I don't mean that I support PC--much of it is blatantly stupid--but I do mean the attitude that "that's PC, therefore I must SMASH IT WITH MY HULK-LIKE FISTS because people are watching!"

Mark E.
5/11/2014 05:17:40 am

How about from Stanford himself:

"There are several major problems" with using the Solutrean Hypothesis to advance a white nationalist racial politics, said Stanford. The biggest, he explained, is that "even if the Solutrean hypothesis is demonstrated, there is no evidence that these people were the same race as modern Europeans; in fact, they most likely were not the same race. Their origin in Europe is a major research question. At the present, most scholars believe the people who made the European Solutrean artifacts came out of North Africa [around] 25,000 years ago."

Or Bruce Bradley:

"It is quite likely that [if] these events happened, [it was] before 'racial' diversification occurred. Any facile explanations about the possible implications in relation to modern history will certainly be discredited."

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KIF
5/11/2014 05:24:36 am

Missing the point of the Blog article, it's about something different

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.
5/11/2014 06:23:00 am

luv... from what little i know of Public Relations
since the year 1920 onwards, the safer option for
H2 is NOT to issue a press release about this new
award. Discretion would be waiting until there are
ten new blog threads on the topic, and then H2
merely opinions that the studio system of the Golden
Age of Hollywood is long gone, and that they do not
micro-manage their talent. Most likely Paula Dean's
brother "Bubba" said something extremely rude to
her young assistant, and was put on the spot. It does
appear that Scott Wolter does not sexually harass at all.
His private life is spotless, even if you quibble over who
he gets photographed next to. The award is clearly political.
its politically loaded on several levels. he's not a politician.

@**&!
5/11/2014 05:07:13 pm

Above my comment, Jason has a commenter posting as "." otherwise known as "period"

Are there no standards on this blog?

.
5/12/2014 06:12:02 am

are you the person who does short "one liners"
even though you MIGHT be a blog regular? if so,
have you done between 500 and 1000 of these
short postings over the past year? i am trying to
stick to an identity that is unique, in all fairness
to the way the Weebly system lets ANYBODY do
brief comments. Jason has standards, he usually
speaks in paragraphs. some of his fans and critics
don't, they like brief quips. Jason's blogs can be
read on several levels. there often is a rhetorical
reason, and a pattern to his topics, over a few weeks.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 05:32:09 pm

Yes …

I think that the accumulating evidence gradually shows that ALL of our ancient ancestors ALL "got around" a lot more than had been previously understood …

That these FACTS are resisted and outright decried by SOME establishment power figures has been WELL enough documented in the dogmatic "Clovis First" school and in the reflexive *sniff* dismissal of the Kensington Rune Stone …

But … and … again … indeed the fact that SOME unscrupulous persons with a vile racialist agenda TRY to take advantage of these new and VERY interesting developments DOESN'T bear upon the FACTS themselves …

NOT everybody who is interested in "The Solutrean Hypothesis" or in cultural contacts between Hawaii and North America is a RACIST …

GET … OVER … IT ...

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.
5/12/2014 06:17:54 am

IMOHO --- game, set and match point

i totally agree that the idea is not racist.

we are clearly talking about ancient migratory

routes, DNA and travel over vast distances.

our early ancestors reached 1000 to 1100 cc

of brain matter easily about 500,ooo to 800,ooo

years ago. our recorded history is in only

thousands of years. our species is rather

bright, there is large expanses of time that

seem "empty" that actually are very important.

Varika
5/12/2014 11:06:17 am

I think you're mixing up "facts" and "opinions" again, Reverend. Neither the "Clovis First" nor the KRS have been proven to be FACTS at all. They're still in the realm of "opinion."

GET … OVER … IT ...

Harry
5/13/2014 01:03:59 am

No, investigating the Solutrean Hypothesis is not racist. Treating it as fact when there is sufficient data to make that strong a claim is kind of dodgy, though not necessarily motivated by racism. The things Frank from Queens is alleged to have said about Solutreans and their interactions with "Berigians" (or is it "Beringians"?) is clearly racist. So the question is: what is your BFF doing on his show?

Jason has never accused Wolter of being a racist or Nazi. He has accused him of associating with, and using unproven ideas derived from, racists and Nazis, backing up those accusations with evidence that you have not rebutted. You, yourself, are the one who has drawn the inference that it makes Wolter look like a racist or Nazi.

The alternative explanation, which I put forth in a posting below, is that Wolter lacks good judgment about where he gets his ideas from and with whom he associates. Perhaps in the case of Frank from Queens, he doesn't realize what the guy stands for, but, then, you ought to let him know.

Only Me
5/11/2014 06:23:27 pm

I would disagree with your statement, "It doesn't seem likely in my mind that the exact method of spear-point manufacture would spring up independently. Look at the details."

Let's look at a classic example: pyramids. The Maya and Aztec built pyramids thousands of years after the Babylonians constructed their ziggurats and the Egyptians created their renowned Great Pyramid. What we have are two cultures, separated by geography and time, independently developing the technology to build similar structures. Taken at its simplest description, a pyramid is just a tidy pile of rocks. It doesn't take alien super science or visitation from Babylonians/Egyptians sharing architectural techniques to make a pile.

The famous automatons of 18th century Europe are simply more modern versions of the automatons built by the Greek mathematician, Hero. The Romans built roads, bridges and aqueducts, but so did the Maya.

Solutrean and Clovis points are nothing more than flaked rocks with sharp edges intended to kill game. It's entirely plausible that both cultures could hit upon the same idea.

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Gunn
5/13/2014 03:51:56 am

Of course it is plausible that both cultures hit upon the same idea at roughly the same time. But when one begins to study these points beyond being simply flaked rocks with sharp edges, one will see very peculiar fluting, which, as I remember reading about, had to do with the art of flinging a spear into a creature and being able to withdraw the wooden shaft, minus the spear point.

In other words, these points were designed on purpose for a particular way of hunting, which involved being able to withdraw oneself from close proximity to the enraged animal, quickly fixing another spear point onto the shaft, and then having at it again.

This is very specialized, which is why I don't think the technology sprang up simultaneously, independently, in the Old and New Worlds, especially in roughly the same time-frame. Of course, it is plausible, but in my opinion not likely.

Only Me, I think some of these early knappers were brainier than we give them credit for--at least the ones who came from Western Europe.

(Ha! Ha! Just joking on the last part.)

Only Me
5/13/2014 04:59:43 am

Oh, early knappers were definitely intelligent, no doubt.

However, the Solutreans and Clovis didn't develop their respective technologies simultaneously or in roughly the same timeframe. There is a 3,000 to 5,000 year gap between the Solutrean period in France and Spain and the Clovis in the New World.

Remember, too, that Clovis points are known for bifacial fluting and only appeared in the archaeological record in eastern North America 13,500 years ago. No older blades with this feature have been found, as yet.

Scott Hamilton
5/11/2014 05:22:29 am

I wonder where the details about the alleged American Solutreans living in organic cities and having no word for "war" came from. Those are some very specific ethnographic details for a people only theorized to exist from a few stone spear points and a genetic study. Are they from the novel White Apocalypse? Or is there some other rationale beyond fiction?

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Shane Sullivan
5/11/2014 08:05:34 am

More to the point, if his Solutrean "ancestors" were all killed by the "beringians", then where did Frank from Queens come from?

...Extraterrestrials?

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Varika
5/12/2014 11:17:13 am

Gotta be either way, because those made-up "Solutreans" could not POSSIBLY have been human. Not If they had "cities that blended into nature" and "no word for war."

Brian McLaughlin
5/11/2014 01:03:44 pm

Curious that if Frank from Queens considers "American Solutreans living in organic cities and having no word for "war" his true ancestors, why does he discredit their traditions with his blatant, warlike rants against Native Americans, African Americans and other minorities?

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[jad]
5/11/2014 05:22:43 am

Yes... the Vikings most likely readily sailed up and down
our Eastern seaboard, they even may have gotten past
Niagara Falls only to step onto the swampy muck that
grew lots of skunk cabbage patches galore in what is
now Chicago, and they may even have gone up a few of
the branches of the mighty Mississippi or Ohio Rivers, all
before A.D 1400, yes... however this is a big jaw dropper.
SW is either very politically stupid or he's quite deliberate.

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KIF
5/11/2014 05:23:44 am

Missing the point of the Blog article

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[jad]
5/11/2014 05:41:54 am

duckie... the Atlantic was never the obstacle.
not in 50,000 B.C nor in A.D 1500, either way.
and to think i told SW to run for political office.
dude has way less common sense than does
Jack Hunter. SW was way safer in talking about
geodes to the local rock club up in Minnesota...
the point of the blog is not ships over the hundreds
of thousands of years or if Early Modern Humans
or Neanderthals sailed to Crete and left ax heads,
the point of the blog is totally political. Jason wins.
Scott W. looses. Jason has the goods on SW totally.

KIF
5/11/2014 11:56:15 pm

duckie? What's that? Unusual grammar from an eccentric

[jad]
5/12/2014 06:52:32 am

KIF --- we all have our moments of uniqueness.
i'm a fan of silent films of the 1920s, i like film noir
of the 1940s and think KATY BATES was rather
brilliant in TITANIC. duckie, duckie, duckie!!! are
you unfamiliar with the Bloomsbury literate ROAR
of the TWENTIES? evidently you are rather 80s
or 90s and regard the 70s + 60s as remote areas.

the 1950s are dullsville, yes, and here we are oh so
close to the 70 year mark of the string of events that
ended WW2 as we again look about this great land for
"silver shirt" organizations that go beyond isolationism.

Jason made the point that something other than being
as blond and blue-eyed as was Charlton Heston was the
analogous point to Quetzalcoatl worship being thought to
be part of the reason why Pizarro's younger 2nd cousin
even got into Mexico City? if its not a crude description,
then what abundant and obvious character trait has an
ancient God + Cortes linked? is this a calendar day that is
lucked into or just a year out of 52 years in a sequence?

did Cortes's diplomatic character create a meme linkage?
if Cortes + the Pizarro brothers were closely related and
quite similar, what can we infer? Cortes is born in 1485,
Francisco Pizarro at about 1471 and is older when he pulls
off what he did in Peru with Atahualpa after what may
have been a very bloody civil war, if you go by EL INCA.

The Aztecs are not the Incas, Pizarro is not Cortes,
Quetzalcoatl is not Viracocha, and Peruvian politics is
different from the politics of Mexico. Again, a great debate.
Indeed all the great Victorians during the Twenties were
put under a renewed scrutiny, as we see the 20th Century
bringing about social and technological change... Jason's
blog-post begs one hundred precise questions, each deserves
a doctoral thesis. Clearly many Victorian era historians liked
to leap to conclusions, and judging from the hearty debate
here, so do the readers of this blog! I did read a politics into
what on the surface if literal is rather dry and confusing in its
incompleteness. Each Victorian is loosely 100 to 150 to 200
years remote from us, and about 200 to 300 years away from
the primary sources they are drawing from. Some are racist, yes.
sources





[jad]
5/11/2014 05:48:21 am

i made a 50/50 judgement call. i did not use the "R" word.

"SW is either very politically stupid or he's quite deliberate."

i tried to frame this rather politely, in a constructive manner.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 05:59:43 am

LOL …

"'Scott Wolter' Watch," Day 475 ...

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DAN D
5/11/2014 08:57:18 am

"Scott Wolter" Coddling, comment # too many! lol

Grown Man,TV personality, author, guest speaker and fair game.

If you can't stand the heat........

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[jad]
5/11/2014 06:09:02 am

Rev. Phil... most seriously, i did ask Scott Wolter
if he was going to run for a public office. He said
he wasn't, so it does look like he is totally free to
now accept these awards from these very small
groups that perhaps are not just political PACs in
a veiled form. He likes to talk to lots of small groups.
i did say this TYPE of award could cripple a bold bid
for the White House if accepted by a very prominent
GOP contender. SW is free to be himself, clearly...
I had hoped Jack Hunter would run against Lindsey
Graham in S. Carolina, i still have hopes. long story.

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Pacal
5/11/2014 06:15:01 am

One of the most tiresome of Academic urban legends is the myth of the return of Quetzalcoatl, which goes hand and glove in with the myth of Quetzalcoatl has a "white" man.

The idea that the Aztecs ever took the Spanish for "Gods" is also at least arguable. It certainly seems that attributing this belief to Montezuma is highly dubious and certainly seems unlikely to have been held by Montezuma after he met Cortes.

It appears that in the original Mesoamerican myth Quetzalcoatl after being driven out of Tollan (Tula) went to the Gulf coast and there he had himself burnt on a pyre from which he, Quetzalcoatl ,rose to become and return has the planet Venus each day. Rather interestingly this particular version of the myth has Quetzalcoatl having a beard alright - made of feathers!

More than 30 years ago Nigel Davies wrote a book called Voyagers to the New World in which he had a chapter with the sarcastic but appropriate title "White Gods with Black Faces". The Codex Borgia, a Pre-columbian Mesoamerican book has images of Quetzalcoatl ion which he is often coloured black and when not black he is tan or black and tan. Also Quetzalcoatl is usually shown with a goatee. These types of images are also used for Quetzalcoatl in other pre-Columbian codices.

And does it have to be repeated that some Indians can indeed grow beards. Cortes in one of his letters to Charles V describes the Aztec Emperor Montezuma has a having a beard. In fact the existence of bearded figures in Mesoamerican and Peruvian art would seem a powerful indication that beards were grown by Native Americans before Columbus. In fact the very strong predominance of the goatee beard among such representations goes well with the fact that overall Native Americans have less facial hair, (Note not no facial hair) than Europeans.

That Wolter is repeating these oh so tired and oh so debunked pieces of rubbish is bluntly annoying. One more reason to consign America Unearthed to the trash heap.

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Shane Sullivan
5/11/2014 08:14:37 am

"... Quetzalcoatl was not called white in genuine pre-Conquest Aztec sources. There he is typically depicted as having black or green skin, and where he is associated with the color white, it is in his role as the guardian of the west, which the Aztecs sometimes identified with the color white."

On that same note, the Aztec southern god Huitzilopochtli was associated with the color blue. Why isn't Scott Wolter going in search of smurfs?

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Snarkopolitan
5/11/2014 05:00:28 pm

"Why isn't Scott Wolter going in search of smurfs?"

That's next season!

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 05:52:45 pm

There ARE real live "smurfs" … One of them was a congregant in one of my former parishes … (S)he drank colloidal silver in the (partially correct !!!) belief that (s)he thus gained some immunity from infections … Unfortunately, one irreversible side effect of drinking colloidal silver is that it turns one's skin BLUE ...

John
5/11/2014 06:04:20 pm

I'm blue da ba dee da ba die...

Shane Sullivan
5/11/2014 07:08:00 pm

"Unfortunately, one irreversible side effect of drinking colloidal silver is that it turns one's skin BLUE ..."

This is true, I saw a news story about it once. Fortunately, being harassed by a curmudgeonly old wizard and his cat is not one of the side effects.

John
5/11/2014 07:15:02 pm

It would be awesome if one of the side effects could be that you become a member of the blue man group.

Matt Mc
5/12/2014 01:08:47 am

Here is a good article about the family from Kentucky that was know for having blue skin

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/blue-skinned-people-kentucky-reveal-todays-genetic-lesson/story?id=15759819

BillUSA
5/11/2014 08:33:03 am

Sounds to me like these "white's were here first" proponents suffer from guilt over the slaughter of the native American Indians in the establishing of our country.

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KIF
5/11/2014 09:12:30 am

The American Indians won a court case to destroy all evidence relating to an archaeological discovery proving they weren't the first settlers of America

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DAN D
5/11/2014 09:41:37 am

Would you care to share the details of this court case?

KIF
5/11/2014 10:22:34 am

It was on a 1999-2000 television documentary that I did not record. On the coastline, as far as I can remember, archaeologists discovered human remains and decreed they were of a different human type to the American Indian.

However, the remains were discovered on American Indian property. Fearing a re-write of American history that possibly threatened their present-day rights, the American Indians said the archaeologists had no right to have taken property that was on their land, took their dispute through the legal court channels, and succeeded in the Judge ordering the archaeologists to return the human remains to the American Indians and to destroy all paperwork relating to the research of the human remains. If anyone can reveal more details of this case on this Blog it would be appreciated.

An Over-Educated Grunt
5/11/2014 10:40:00 am

I presume you refer to Kennewick Man, found in 1996; the remains were discovered in the Puget Sound area, and were not found to be related to any of the currently-local nations. I say "currently local" for a reason; the ancestry of Kennewick Man is still up for considerable debate, and none of the tribes found anywhere in North America are where they "started," for lack of a better word. Further, the land was owned by the Corps of Engineers, not the local nations; they attempted to re-bury as specified by NAGPRA, the governing law, but were unable to show a relation between the body and any of the local nations claiming membership. Since the remains were highly anomalous, they are currently in the care of the University of Washington.

KIF
5/11/2014 11:04:55 am

Thanks for the clarification. This was one documentary I didn't record and I regret it. It has never been repeated.

Mark E.
5/11/2014 11:52:47 am

KIF, the famous 60 Minutes episode on Kennewick Man is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl1j29Zh-6E. That may have been what you saw.

Mandalore
5/11/2014 12:40:58 pm

KIF, you seem rather hostile about Native Americans. Kennewick Man has nothing to do with mythical Soluteeans. Likely the remains are of a very early movement of peoples from Asia over the Bering Straits.

[jad]
5/12/2014 07:15:48 am

KIF --- i actually sat thru the senate debate between
Elizabeth Warren and Scott Brown where about ten
minutes of it focused on how Cherokee she was, and
what status she had at Harvard U. and if she had truly
deserved it! i could have hit a button on my remote.

I'm a New Englander, i have high odds of finding a
Native-American ancestor if i do go back about 200 to
300 years and go thru colonial era records. I live in an
area of the country that was under a massive ice sheet
about 15,000 years ago, where we most likely do not
have even 5000 people living in my home state save
along the Atlantic coast. Can we say wasteland? But
with good fishing? not farmland like today? anyway...

The glaciers here were like brillo pads, they took off
rock layers, unlike the way Greenland glaciated, and
had glaciers build up. ours moved over great distances,
unless you dig thru all coastal sediments, you cannot
rule human habitation out. The Solutrean Hypothesis
rests on how life could be lived near the great glaciers,
under Arctic conditions or the like, it is more difficult
than the way we live here today. Travel was easily two
way, this is a given, but it is not impossible. I cannot
totally shoot down Dennis Stanford's take on our coastal
areas, and I assume the Lenape of Delaware are indeed
ancestral several times over & part of several ice age cycles.

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william
5/11/2014 09:59:37 am

maybe it would be more fun to talk about Pretzelcoatl instead. I saw this god on my kids' favorite show Bubble Guppies on Nick Jr.

http://thecartoontemple.blogspot.com/2012/11/pretzelcoatl.html

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Franken New York
5/11/2014 11:47:18 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't "World Solutrean Day" just happen to coincide with Hitler's birthday, April 20? Coincidence? I think not.

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Mark E.
5/11/2014 12:30:37 pm

A holiday with a motto of "One People, One Culture, One Race!" being on Hitler's birthday? Let me think about that one some more.

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Byron DeLear
5/12/2014 10:48:08 am

I find it ironic that this slogan is used to propel racist ideology. Because a competing, all-inclusive 'global citizen' ideal uses similar language. viz. humankind as "one family, one garden, one tribe, one planet," etc.

Jason Colavito link
5/11/2014 02:25:51 pm

It didn't even occur to me that this was Hitler's birthday, but you're quite right that it is unlikely to be a coincidence. Thank you for pointing that out.

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.
5/12/2014 06:07:16 am

Patriots Day in Massachusetts is April 19th and until
the past few decades it was celebrated on the 19th,
the next day is indeed where the birthday of Adolph Hitler
fell on the calendar in 1890. This may or may not be a
total coincidence, but the Marathon bombing of last year
happened on the Ides, the 15th, to whit, INCOME TAX day.
It also was Patriot's Day officially, due to it being a Monday.
The 19th and the 20th have incidents like Columbine etc
being associated with them. April has several historic events.
Abe Lincoln dies on the 15th, the Titanic sinks on the 15th.
Richmond falls earlier in the month, and we have Lee & Grant
at a courthouse in VA as there is a Southern surrender. April
begins the Civil War and almost ends it. You have a choice of
causes and fringe groups, but the timing is indeed a topic!!!!

Varika
5/12/2014 11:18:13 am

So does Earth Day. Just sayin'.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 12:17:58 pm

Yeah …

Also born on April 20 -- George Takei; Jessica Lange; John Paul Stevens … What a bunch of NAZIS ...

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Mandalore
5/11/2014 12:36:19 pm

But they didn't choose their birthdays, whereas World Solutrean Day could have been any day. The choice seems deliberate and is disturbing.

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Matt Mc
5/11/2014 12:40:30 pm

To be fair it is also the day that stoners around the US celebrate smoking pot.

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Steve StC
5/11/2014 05:10:13 pm

But it's so much for fun to be unfair, Matt MC (or whatever your real name is).

Matt Mc
5/12/2014 01:12:17 am

Steve I assure you that Matt Mc is indeed a shorten version of my name, I leave off the last part of my name for professional reasons mainly because I do not want inquiries about the people (politicians and athletes) I work with in the course of my day job.

Jason if he so wishes can verify that I am indeed who I say I am

DAN D
5/11/2014 12:44:37 pm

A wide net you cast with that NAZI comment. Does that include all who participate here? Or just those who find SW's affiliations troubling?

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RJR
5/11/2014 01:01:33 pm

And the students at Columbine High were killed. Thank you Mr. Wikipedia.

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John
5/11/2014 01:17:20 pm

Whether the date was chosen deliberately or not, regardless, the person who created this pathetic excuse of a holiday is known for his racism and white supremacy. These are things that no ethical person of any type of science should affiliated with. Hell, these are things that no decent human being would affiliate themselves with, ESPECIALLY if they claim what they are promoting ISN'T racism.

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Fr. Jack Ashcraft link
5/11/2014 03:03:34 pm

Another person connected to this Solutrean silliness is Steve McNallen. You might not be familiar with him, but he is the founder of Asatru.

I don;t think the date chosen for World Solutrean Day is just coincidence, when you consider the fact that the motto chosen for it also reflects one of the National Socialists mottos, "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer".

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 03:45:14 pm

Dennis Stanford (Smithsonian Institution) and Prof. Dr. Bruce Bradley (University of Exeter) are NAZIS … because they took/take "the Solutrean Hypothesis" seriously … ???

Oh, please …

Is EVERYBODY with whom you disagree … to be labelled as a "Nazi" … ???

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Walt
5/11/2014 04:00:14 pm

Anyone who associates a skin color with the Solutrean Hypothesis has some issues. Those two do not.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 05:13:34 pm

BINGO … !!!

.
5/12/2014 07:26:17 am

agreed. it turns out Neanderthal red hair
that is not modern red hair, but similar in
color, from different DNA sequences. light
skin is not one particular shade. we guess
at what an ancestor once looked like, but
we are slowly connecting up DNA strings
with specific traits. DNA has revolutionized
genetics to the degree where the old label of
"race" is a Victorian era artifact. we are into
mutation rates, the cosmic clock & migratory
patterns over the hundreds of thousands of
years. there is a migration out of Africa about
70,ooo years ago, and a small community of
humans we all have as our mutual ancestors...
we are one species who is not as diversified as
we seem on the surface, unlike the others in the
animal kingdom. we survived a near extinction event.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 03:45:20 pm

Dennis Stanford (Smithsonian Institution) and Prof. Dr. Bruce Bradley (University of Exeter) are NAZIS … because they took/take "the Solutrean Hypothesis" seriously … ???

Oh, please …

Is EVERYBODY with whom you disagree … to be labelled as a "Nazi" … ???

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Mandalore
5/11/2014 03:56:46 pm

What the heck are you talking about? Are you referring to Mark E.'s comment above? Because he doesn't call them or anyone else a Nazi, but is giving an informed answer to Gunn's question. Once again you are purposely misconstruing what people say to troll. You forgot to say something about standing up for your dear close personal friend Scott Wolter, who you are not a spokesman for or advocate of.

And what is a Prof. Dr.? Nobody identifies themselves like that.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 04:01:59 pm

"Prof." and "Dr." are earned academic titles … and … Yes .. Persons who hold those titles DO self identify with them … Look it up ...

But, oh, please … ??? WHO keeps on keeping on bringing up "Nazis" -- "neo-," and "esoteric," and otherwise … ???

Prof. Dr. Mandalore
5/11/2014 04:11:20 pm

I have never heard of anyone using both titles simoultaneously to identify themselves; they are redundant. If you can demonstrate otherwise I will admit I am wrong.

And you failed to address how you purposely misconstrued another's words to incite anger in others. That seems like pretty questionable behavior for a man of God.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 04:23:24 pm

"Dr." indicates that the person has a doctoral degree, e.g., PhD, MD, JD, et al ….

"Prof." indicates a "full professor" in an academic institution … Almost always, EVERY "Prof." holds a "Dr." … but not every "Dr." is a "Prof." … They're NOT the same thing ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 04:25:24 pm

"Mandalore" (whoever you are) …

Again … patiently … *SOMEBODY* -- else -- in these blogs seems to see "Nazis" EVERYWHERE … Not I ..

Mandalore
5/11/2014 04:54:19 pm

Actually not all professors are doctors, although those with only masters degrees are dying out. My point is that no professors also use doctor when writing their name. They don't write Prof. Dr. Smith; they use one or the other, not both at once, even of both apply. Again, if you can show any proof, I will acknowledged I am wrong. But I doubt that you will.

And you have still failed to acknowledge that you have misused someone's words to be purposely misleading. You are lying and trying to lead people astray by lying. I don't understand how a reverand could possibly justify that. And obviously you cant since you aren't. Is this how you spread God's Word? By misusing holy scripture to push you personal agendas?

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 05:06:22 pm

"Mandalore" (whoever you are) --

I referred to Prof. Dr. Bruce Bradley of University of Exeter … I did NOT claim that he signs his name that way … So what … ???

But, yes … as I indicated (above) ALMOST every FULL Professor (as distinct from "Associate" Professor or "Assistant" Professor) AMOST always hold a "Doctorate" … NOT always, but ALMOST always ...

Mandalore
5/11/2014 05:20:09 pm

Apologies; you did write that. Although it's still silly to call someone Prof. Dr.

But why won't you answer my other questions? Defend your words if they are worth defending or acknowledge that they are wrong. You lied about someone else said to falsely support your agenda. How do you justify that? Is that an aspect of your ministry, assuming you preach? Or is Reverand just a meaningless title that you use to bludgeon people with?

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 05:22:12 pm

"Mandalore" (whoever you are) --

LOL … I wrote what I wrote … Go back and READ it again ...

Jason Colavito link
5/11/2014 11:39:01 pm

The "Prof. Dr." issue is a protocol convention. Here in the U.S., the convention is to identify a person by only one title. In Germany, a person may identify himself by all his titles, so it's not unusual to find an "Herr Prof. Dr. Dr.," though I gather this was more common in the past than it is today.

John
5/11/2014 04:11:02 pm

If that's the case then I will never take Stanford or Bradley as serious historians. People who agree with the Solutrean Hypothesis are obviously not Nazis or racists, but those that align themselves with the perspective of these ideologies that twist the already flawed hypothesis to begin with that are. This is where People like Frank from Queens comes into the picture and is why people like Scott Wolter, Dennis Stanford, and Bruce Bradley should distance themselves from these people.

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Mandalore
5/11/2014 05:38:19 pm

Ok. You wrote that someone called Stanford and Bradley Nazis. That is a lie, so you are acknowledging that you are a liar. I think you are a disgrace to your title. I look forward to your next attempt at trolling.

Cheers,
Prof. Dr. Mandalore (that is three titles if you are counting)

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 05:47:15 pm

"Mandalore" (whoever you are) --

I wrote what I wrote … Go back and READ it … or not …

*what*ever*

EP
5/11/2014 07:28:31 pm

Fun fact: His title is actually "Harry"

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/11/2014 06:16:17 pm

"'Scott Wolter' Watch," Day 476 … and counting ...

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EP
5/11/2014 07:20:26 pm

I'm still waiting for your riveting tales of visiting the Burrows Cave...

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Harry
5/12/2014 01:05:59 am

As I read Jason (who should feel free to correct me if I am wrong), he is not saying that Wolter is a Nazi or a racist - in fact, he has made the point that Wolter is not a Nazi or a racist. What Jason is complaining about is Wolter's lack of judgment in drawing from and associate his name with Nazis, racists and other crackpots, such as Alan Butler, simply because they happen to share - for their own reasons - the view that pre-Columbian European contact with America was much more extensive than academic experts in the field believe the evidence supports.

Wolter appears to be a competent geologist, but he pursues other lines of inquiry where he appears to be out of his depth. However, his ego appears to be wrapped up in the self-perceived rightness of his conclusions, so people who disagree as vehemently with his conclusions as he agrees with them become suppressors or distorters of the truth or are motivated by an illegitimate agenda.

At the same time, Wolter's views of people who support or defend his conclusions is much more benign than those people necessarily deserve. To my mind, one of the best examples of this cited by Jason, which no one has yet contradicted or explained away, is that Wolter adopted Jacques de Mahieu's view that Europeans conquered South American Indians in the pre-Columbian era while expressly disregarding de Mahieu's own Nazi past.

Jason has also presented convincing evidence of Frank from Queens' racism and general bigotry quite aside from his promotion of World Solutrean Day, and the way Frank has discussed Solutreans (as in that quote reported by Anti-Racism Canada) is manifestly racist in tone.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
5/12/2014 03:08:15 am

Oh for crying out loud.

Yes, all awards are made up. Their legitimacy, or lack thereof, just like governments' and currencies', rests on a consensus of acceptance. Without re-starting an old fight, being given "World's Greatest Solutrean" is just as big a feather in your cap as being given a cup of coffee and told it's equivalent to a Master's degree. I expect, though I'm completely uninterested in verifying it by listening (this entire thing is a tempest in a teapot to me), that Wolter accepted it with the understanding that it was a meaningless pleasantry.

More troubling to me is the fact that he's either supremely clueless, or he's decided his "history is wrong" mantra trumps any other moral responsibilities. Since using the name Scott Wolter leads to hysterics around here, let me use a different example to illustrate the problem.

In post-Stalin Russia, Stalinism was viewed as a radical departure from Leninism. "If only Ilych could see what has happened!" was a common enough refrain (although so was "If only Stalin could see what's done in his name!" during his tenure). The problem with this is that it's absolute rubbish. Stalin rose to prominence under Lenin's guidance. Trotsky, equally bloodthirsty, rose to prominence under Lenin. Dzerzhinsky rose to prominence under Lenin. It is important to note that, ideologically, Lenin agreed with precisely NONE of these men, they were all associated at one point or another with communist parties other than the Bolsheviks. But it was under the Bolshevik banner that they rose, and it was as a direct consequence of Lenin's approval that they pursued the policies they did (Red Terror, the post-Russian Civil War purges, the invasion of Poland). To say that they did any one of these things without Lenin's knowledge is plausible but unlikely. To say that they did all of them without Lenin's knowledge is laughable.

So, too, it is here. There comes a certain point where you have to look around at the people you've been traveling with and go "How did I wind up here?" I'm not saying Scott Wolter is a Nazi, a racist, or anything like that. I'm saying that he's wound up in bed with them by slow measures and steps that probably made perfect sense to him at the time. It is a disservice to him to go "LEAVE BRITTNEY ALONE!" every time someone mentions his name, yet not approach him, as a friend and someone concerned about how he presents himself. Either he's a big boy who can speak and think for himself, and needs no defense, or he needs the defense and counsel of his friends. It can't be both. Personally, I know that if it were me, or any of my friends, I would prefer I (or they) have the strength of character required to point out the flaws.

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.
5/12/2014 07:31:17 am

excellent take on stalinism!

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EP
5/12/2014 04:53:00 am

The outrage of Wolter's fanboys is particularly absurd because Jason has previously dedicated an entire post *defending* Wolter from the same accusations he's being accused of making.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/12/2014 07:24:02 am

LOL …

"fanboys" … ???

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Varika
5/12/2014 11:26:24 am

From Merriam-Webster:

"fan·boy noun \ˈfan-ˌbȯi\

Definition of FANBOY

: a boy or man who is an extremely or overly enthusiastic fan of someone or something"

Yep, seems to fit you AND Steve StC! Shall I take your picture and submit it to go with the definition?

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It ate this part
5/12/2014 11:28:03 am

fan-boy, n.
Definition of FANBOY
1. a boy or man who is an extremely or overly enthusiastic fan of someone or something

Yep, definitely fits you and Steve StC! Shall I take your picture and submit it to go with the definition?

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/12/2014 03:31:03 pm

Try looking up:
"friendship" … "loyalty" … "integrity" ...

EP
5/12/2014 02:54:53 pm

OK, how about "fanpersons"?

Also, way to completely ignore the point I was making.

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.
5/12/2014 07:34:40 am

"More troubling to me is the fact that he's either supremely clueless, or he's decided his "history is wrong" mantra trumps any other moral responsibilities. Since using the name Scott Wolter leads to hysterics around here, let me use a different example to illustrate the problem."

he is obviously not running for public office in any hurry...

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.
5/12/2014 07:39:11 am

" i made a 50/50 judgement call. i did not use the "R" word.

"SW is either very politically stupid or he's quite deliberate."

i tried to frame this rather politely, in a constructive manner."

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.
5/12/2014 07:43:40 am

lets all indeed keep doing a tidy tiptoe dance around
the big "R" word as we kindly ask how over-booked
poor SW is, if he easily delivers each guest lecture...
after he again does not put one & all thru a political
litmus test. we know there is a pattern to be seen.

EP
5/12/2014 03:10:45 pm

" he is obviously not running for public office in any hurry..."

Scary thing is, he'd probably get the votes in some places...

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.
5/12/2014 07:48:49 am

rosalynn carter had no idea who she once was standing next to!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/politicians-potentially-career-ending-photos-gallery-1.14806?pmSlide=1.21998

the john wayne gacy photo has had quite a few articles about it...

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/12/2014 05:28:51 pm

"'Scott Wolter' Watch," Day 477

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/13/2014 05:23:44 pm

"'Scott Wolter' Watch," Day 478

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Only Me
5/13/2014 06:28:54 pm

Phil Gotsch Propaganda Watch: Day 18

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Matt Mc
5/14/2014 12:20:32 am

Day 18?

Phil has been spouting is Wolter obsession/love for well over a year.



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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/14/2014 01:25:44 am

I agree with the visitor (above) who denounced the gossipy nature of the blog …

I am, indeed, a personal friend and professional colleague of Scott Wolter, so I do highly value honor and integrity and loyalty, especially when snarky sharks are circling …

Todd McCarthy
5/14/2014 01:59:13 am

You claim to value honor, integrity and loyalty Mr. Gotsch, then you should stay far away from Wolter. Rest certain you don't know him as well as you think you do. It's like defending someone like Sterling(minus the racist part), you should be very careful with where your words of support go without knowing all the facts. Your friendship is noble but lacks information.

Only Me
5/14/2014 03:06:33 am

Sorry, Matt. I began my count on April 27th, the day Phil started his lie about Jason's intentions and distorted what was actually written. As long as the deception is fed, I'll be keeping track.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/14/2014 02:54:20 am

Scott Wolter is NOT a "racist" or "racialist" or any such thing ...

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Matt Mc
5/14/2014 03:43:13 am

But he does associate and work with them. Including his good friend and associate who despite using ethic slurs and then claiming ignorance of not knowing his statements where ethnically motivated. Funny how people who make racist statements are so quick to hide behind ignorance (it is ironic) and are quick to make claims that their friends are not racist.

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EP
5/14/2014 05:39:05 am

Could Rev. Phil Gotsch himself be a racist? Stay tuned to find out!

Matt Mc
5/14/2014 06:16:54 am

No I do not think Rev is a racist. He however has shown that he (like many others) will resort to mocking a persons ethnicity in his attempts to insult people. So not a racist in the "I hate x people" but will used racist statements in an attempt to hurt or provoke. Which in my mind is just as bad and very un becoming of a person of faith.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/14/2014 08:11:41 am

No …

I do NOT "mock" any person's "ethnicity" … I DID once point out to our host that the "guilt by association" gambit could be dangerous for HIM, since he is (apparently) "Italian" (think: Mafia … la Cosa Nostra) ...

Matt Mc
5/14/2014 09:01:48 am

expect answer as I predicted.

Keep up with that integrity Rev.

EP
5/14/2014 09:05:40 am

Rev. Phil Gotsch Watch: Day 1

Brent
5/14/2014 07:21:34 pm

No he's not. He just lends his name to some. And in so doing, lends strength to them. Or in this case, to the one.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/14/2014 10:31:14 am

Yes …

Friendship … Honor … Integrity ...

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Matt Mc
5/14/2014 12:17:39 pm

I notice you left off respect... interesting.

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EP
5/14/2014 03:37:58 pm

Am I the only one to immediately think of John Cena's "Hustle. Loyalty. Respect." whenever the good Reverend says that?

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Matt Mc
5/15/2014 05:28:51 am

Rev also I thought you wanted us to talk about the "FACTS" so let us not get distracted by distortions and speculation please.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/14/2014 03:27:47 pm

LOL …
H
ad I listed a HUNDRED personal virtues … *somebody* would have noticed one or two that I failed to include …

So what … ???
Were you "Sancho Panza" in a parallel universe … ???

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/14/2014 05:10:39 pm

"'Scott Wolter' Watch," day 479

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Daniel Antonioni
5/15/2014 04:31:14 am

Do you and Steve receive money to do this?

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Only Me
5/14/2014 06:57:50 pm

Phil Gotsch Propaganda Watch: Day 19

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Only Me
5/15/2014 05:50:12 pm

Phil Gotsch Propaganda Watch: Day 20

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Only Me
5/16/2014 07:03:57 pm

PGPW: Day 21

Brent
5/14/2014 07:26:07 pm

Tired Joke Watch day # hasntbeenfunnyfor a long time
Episode: The Horse is Still Dead, Stop Beating It

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/15/2014 01:42:37 am

I agree that gossipy nonsense is a sick horse that ought to be euthanized ...

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Brent
5/15/2014 02:34:32 am

Oh I see what you did there. Clever. (Rolls eyes)

EP
5/14/2014 08:11:25 pm

I hereby bestow upon the Rev. Phil Gotsch the inaugural Scott Wolter Loyalty Award.
(PS: I'm not a racist, I promise!)

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/16/2014 06:30:10 am

"'Scott Wolter' Watch," Day 480

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Thor link
7/5/2020 04:50:50 am

Why are you trying to take indigenous Indian history away from us. do you not have history of your own too claim, it is sad enough that you claim we worshipped you people as gods becaused we believed in the great father we believed in the clouds that would bring us rain that why we did our dances too propititae the earth with the sky not to you or your kind. the reason we did not make good slaves was because we were not tricked by you or your religion like islam and Christianity you when you practice another person religion you put them in power you did it to other races we did not copitulated to you or the arabs we defiled you

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