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Scott Wolter: Ancient Freemasons from Göbekli Tepe May Have Built U.S. Mounds

5/15/2020

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As is his wont, former America Unearthed host Scott Wolter made another of his regular and baffling podcast appearances, this time on the Masonic Unknown Philosophers online broadcast, which apparently took the form of a Zoom call last Friday before being posted online this week. The production values were poor, the background music distracting, and the hosts somewhere between amateurish and incompetent. It was, in other words, a perfect platform for Wolter to spout a new torrent of bizarre claims about the so-called Cremona Documents, a set of almost certainly fake medieval texts from Italy that Wolter firmly believes relate the secret history of Western civilization from the dawn of time down to the Knights Templar. Even Wolter himself recognizes that these texts are “almost too good to be true,” but he has convinced himself that the doubts about their authenticity are nothing compared to the truest he places in the personal relationships he has with the dubious figures who promote this nonsense.
I have covered these documents many times before (e.g. here), and there is no reason to rehash the underlying implausibility of the documents and the second-rate spy thriller passing for their provenance.
 
Wolter claims that the documents prove that the Knights Templar excavated under the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, where they found four ossuaries covered in lambskin. One contained the body of John the Baptist (!), the second clay tubes filled with scrolls, the third gold bars stamped with the Seal of Solomon, and the fourth five scientific instruments. Wolter says that one of the instruments measured Venus for use in navigation and another was a device for decoding secret codes.
 
In this interview, Wolter is more explicit about claiming that the Knights Templar directly influenced the United States Constitution via Freemasonry, but his understanding of Freemasonry and the Templars remains in distinct contrast to the historical record. Many Founding Fathers were Freemasons, but Freemasonry has no direct connection to the Templars, who were not, pace Wolter, goddess-worshippers, matriarchal, or democrats. Wolter repeats many claims about Native Americans from his last two books, but his evidence remains as faulty and sketchy as it was back then. He routinely places his trust in people rather than evidence and mistakes his friends’ beliefs for documented traditions or facts dating back to antiquity.
 
Wolter has begun incorporating more of Jacques de Mahieu’s bad ideas about Vikings and Templars in South America (a process he started, with explicit citation of the neo-Nazi writer, in 2013), and he tells the interviewers that he thinks there may be even more evidence of Templar influence in South America. He repeats, too, his more recent ghost story claiming to have experienced a paranormal event at the Newport Tower when a woman appeared and spoke to him before vanishing.
 
Honestly, so much of the interview is repeats of previous claims we’ve heard so many times before that it’s hard to evaluate whether there is anything new worth discussing. Halfway through, the hosts open the discussion for questioning from other Freemasons, and things break away from the script a little bit. That’s when things got strange.
 
In response to the first question, he references Hermetic philosophy, and he compares it to Göbekli Tepe, which he assumes had been constructed with “advanced” science and technology. He alleged that the Neolithic builders of Göbekli Tepe were Freemasons from an “high” culture practicing “the Craft,” whose origins he now imagines to stretch back more than 12,000 years. As a reminder, modern Freemasonry emerged in its current form in the 1700s from stone masons’ guilds of the preceding couple of centuries. It doesn’t have medieval occult roots, much less connections to an “advanced” civilization from before the Ice Age. Wolter’s conflation of Templar conspiracies and Graham Hancock’s Atlantis speculation produces strange results.
 
In response to another question, Wolter complains that television “frustrates” him because he can’t go into the depth that he likes on his topics. This is rather frustrating to me because there is no actual depth to Wolter’s sand castles of speculation, whose foundation is old books of bad information.
 
I was rather surprised when Wolter admitted that his Templar claims in the Pirate Treasure of the Knights Templar were unplanned and unsystematic. “We were making it up as we went along,” he said. That must be the “depth” that he had just finished discussing.
 
Wolter also gave a long answer about the relationship between the Templars and the Islamic world, none of which is important to us since it is familiar ground, but I was struck by the sense of grievance that permeated his discussion. He kept hammering the point about the Templars being treated badly so they had to start a new country to avoid being picked on and oppressed. I don’t mean to suggest a psychological explanation, but it’s hard not to see parallels between the fictitious version of the Templars Wolter has created in the past few years and his growing resentment of academics, scientists, government officials, and the media for allegedly treating him badly and not giving him the respect he imagines his speculative ideas deserve.
 
As the Zoom call comes to a close, a viewer asks Wolter about the mounds of North America, the subject of my most recent book. Wolter cites one of his friends’ ideas that the mounds—built over millennia across the continent—were all part of a single program to recreate the entire heavenly sphere on Earth, each mound representing a star. Wolter says we can “barely comprehend” the mounds’ complexity, and he asks “Who were these people? Were they part of this high culture that I talked about?” Yes, he asked if Freemasons from Göbekli Tepe built North American mounds 8,000+ years later. As you can read in my book The Mound Builder Myth, Wolter is here parroting nineteenth century falsehoods invented to justify genocide, and though he tries to turn this on its head by ascribing the global high culture to Native Americans (just like Graham Hancock), it doesn’t change the fact the ideas have no connection to reality, only to fantasy.
33 Comments
Paul
5/15/2020 09:43:37 am

Cue Billy

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Joe Scales
5/15/2020 10:23:48 am

"I was rather surprised when Wolter admitted that his Templar claims in the Pirate Treasure of the Knights Templar were unplanned and unsystematic. “We were making it up as we went along,” he said."

No doubt. Certainly accounts for his declaration on that show that St. Anthony was the patron saint of thieves. Perhaps during his next podcast someone can press him about his unfounded arson allegations that he buried on his blog, bumping up his previous alien artifacts post to do so.

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Kent
5/15/2020 12:57:06 pm

I hold no brief for, have no truck with, and carry no water for the Catholic Church. That said, its documented misdeeds (can an institution sin?) are sufficient, no need to bring time traveling Jesuit Templar hunters into the mix. Wolter clearly has ISSUES. "Show me on the doll, Scott... where the priest declined to touch you."

As a wise man once said, Scott Wolter is an idiot.

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Sogyal Rinpoche
5/16/2020 08:18:49 am

Kent

In these stressful times you should not be ashamed to access appropriate resources rather than seeking catharsis on social media.

https://www.counseling.org/knowledge-center/mental-health-resources

Kent
5/16/2020 10:56:09 am

That's too funny. You picked the name of a woefully untrained "lama" whom I've met and sat next to in the living room of the house I was visiting. One who is known for:

* bullying students
* not writing the book published under his name
* chronic drug and alcohol abuse
* sexual abuse of students and teenage daughters of students
* egregious financial mismanagement to support an extravagant lifestyle

No, I don't have him confused with Trungpa, this is yet another one.

Thanks for the advice. I'll pass.

Sripai Biadnok
5/16/2020 06:21:47 pm

Shows us on the doll where Rinpoche touched you while sitting on the couch, Kent.

Wolter thinks that all mounds in North America were built 8,000 years ago? Even the ones that can be dated through C-14 or seriation to almost contact era?

Kent
5/16/2020 08:49:46 pm

Oh, nowhere. He was very well behaved and made a good impression. There was an actual Tibetan abbot in the room, no boobies, and it wasn't his own place. But if you're into sex with dolls that's cool. Sounds like you got a whole seduction ritual planned out.

Gee, if only there were some sort of search service you could use to verify this sort of thing!

Sucks when you pick an alias that backfires, doesn't it?

Nen Kham
5/17/2020 10:32:54 am

Backfired? I think not. Just drawing you out to confirm that "kent" is just a newer alias for someone here long noted for being fixated on the topic of sexual abuse . Other visitors here now can now frame their interactions with you accordingly.

Thank you for the confirmation.

Lorenzo Llama
5/17/2020 12:56:57 pm

Someone calling themselves AmericanNegro used to:

Claim insider knowledge of Tibetan people, language and religion.

Try to work discussion of sex crimes into as many discussions as possible.

Complain about other people using aliases even while he was working with his third or 4th one.

Used the expression "Show us on the doll..." so many times it seemed as though he owned the copyright for it.

I think that you have made your point about whom we are dealing with. Theon has been turned into Reek here and elsewhere recently. So why don't we get back to discussing relevant topics? Please.

Kent
5/15/2020 10:54:32 am

Ah, the Creamora documents. It's always coffee with Wolter.

It occurred to me while reading this that Wolter is the Bob Lazar of whatever this field of study is, the difference being that Lazar lies about his education but knows a few things while Wolter is honest about his education (when pressed) but knows less than nothing.

Wolter's a good looking guy. I can imagine a woman speaking to him then figuring out he's batshit crazy and skedoodling. (That's how we say "skedaddling" in Pittsburgh.)

I'm somewhat surprised that Wolter has done nothing with The Occulists; Eye of Horus and all that. Easily as old as the Freemasons. The two may well have been engaged in an unseen occult war down through the millennia. You can't prove they weren't.

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E.P. Grondine
5/15/2020 01:11:21 pm

It is pretty clear tha Mr. Wolters ix looking for something to sell, hpoing to get another television deal. I may have to get over to Denison U later this year.

For Jason's book on Islamic pyramid myths:
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1674756/saudi-arabia

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Jim
5/15/2020 10:56:45 pm

"It is pretty clear tha Mr. Wolters ix looking for something to sell,"

He says he is writing a new book with this junk in it.
It's pretty clear who his target audience is.

"Hell yes" ,, Wolters description of ley lines.
Atlantians and Templars in Göbekli Tepe.
Ghosts.
Ancient aliens in Mexico.
Jesus was a Templar.
Holy Grail in America.
Minoans stealing North American copper.

The tried and true method of targeting the stupid and the gullible.

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Doc Rock
5/16/2020 09:26:17 pm

It has been some time since I reached the 10th glass of chard threshold for exposing myself to the idiocy on Scotty's blog. I do recall you mentioning some time ago that he was being a little more loose with the censoring of comments that make him look, well, like a moron. I figured it might be because he is willing to take a few hits in order to generate traffic over there in order to promote some new venture. He has done this in the past. Maybe he is doing it now to promote another shitty book? Is that your take, or is he just doing it because he is, well, a moron. Or both?

Jim
5/16/2020 10:59:11 pm

My take is that he no longer has any respect at all for the intelligence of his fans and can't be bothered to cover up his own lies.

He allowed me to post a link to Professor Weiblen's report then immediately lied about what was in it, assuming his followers wouldn't bother to read it and would just take his word for it.
He did this before, when I pressed him on the calcite, he claimed the soil on Runestone Hill had a PH of 9-11, I didn't realize it then but apparently in his book "The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence" it says the PH is 7.5 on the hill.

He lies to his fans faces and they don't seem to notice or care.
Seems to be the new normal this day and age.

Although I might be wrong and it could be just because he is a moron.

Not Kent
5/17/2020 12:45:04 am

"10th glass of chard threshold".

Fucking dead from laughter. Just dead. 😅😅💤

Kent
5/17/2020 11:09:40 am

Based on my reading he has repeatedly oversold Winchell's conclusions as agreeing with him whereas in my view Winchell is orders of magnitude more cautious in his conclusions.

LITLLUW as we used to say in Wales. Of course we used the Theban alphabet which we stole from the Portuguese and I tied an onion to my belt because it was the style at the time.

Doc Rock
5/19/2020 03:12:19 pm

Wolter seems to have a core-base of believers who don't care what he says or how many times he is proven wrong. Gotta have people like that or people like Koresh never get laid and Scotty-boy can't afford the newest in LL Bean apparel.

Paul
5/16/2020 04:49:10 pm

Accidently ran across a youtube by Jackson Crawford, specializes in Scandinavian languages. Excellent takedown of the KRS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWvRtlyTaUc if you have not seen the video yet.
One commenter mentioned that the krs was likely found on the shores of Lake Wobegon, that seems about right.

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Not Kent
5/16/2020 04:55:22 pm

Jason, Sir.

Checking in today because I have been, totally checked out, exploring Haiku, and my Lakota Sioux flute.

Where to start?

I'm honestly pissed now at Wolter. This was all fun-and-good, but this asshole is just such a special butter-cup.

I'm a member of the O.T.O (93, Kids!).

I get it. Very fashionable to be a "Templar". 125 fucking years ago! It's already been done better than Wolter can ever hope to do it, by way smarter people. Who had a sense of humor. But this Wolter asshole...

Dude? You keep speaking the truth.

We'll burn this down.

Just got my hard copy of Mound Builders on Wednesday. Pretty sure any Coronavirus on it is dead now. So gonna read. 😅😅😅😊

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Not Kent
5/17/2020 03:44:51 am

No. Seriously, Scott W.

Fuck you to death, for not getting the joke. I'm The Ape of Thoth, right now, in your face Scott Wolter.

You've corrupted the mysteries.

You missed the lesson on Rabelais, you don't get in to The Invisible College. Yer fucked.

Have fun storming the castle, Scott. So Ill equipped.

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C.W. Leadbetter
5/17/2020 07:26:55 pm

You sound a lot like American Cool Disco Negro. Can't you just pick one alias and stick with it?

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Inferior Agate
5/17/2020 07:46:59 pm

An oldie but goodie. Satirical takedown of SW that gives some props to Colavito. Amazing the he hasn't threatened to sue them.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/ScottWolter

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Not Kent
5/19/2020 03:10:44 am

Well then.

This will require a coordinated effort.

Whose with me?

We return Scott to his "actual" profession. It's not writing. It's not television.

Who wants to find out with me what it is?

Maybe he's a musician.

🙏🏻🙏🏻😅

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Jim
5/24/2020 09:16:33 pm

Oh oh,,, Vikings, Vikings, Vikings, anything for a buck Scot Wolter is now saying it was the Vikings who carved the KRS and it was the Vikings who came to Minnesota.

OMG a new add for Dodge Ram trucks starring none other than the real life Indiana Jones,,,, Scott, I'll say anything for a buck, Wolter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3SvFO0klkg

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Jim
5/26/2020 06:05:28 pm

Here is a new news article about the KRS hoax.
Nothing new or deep, however it Marks a new milestone for Wolter who actually for the first time in years, commented outside the protected womb of his own blog site.
Baby steps there Scotty, perhaps soon you will grow a pair and show up here again, nah, who am I kidding.

Anyhoo, in the comment section this quote tickled my fancy as evidence why the the Norse could have traveled from the Hudson Bay to Minnesota in 14 days:

" a rowboat headed upstream can travel at the same average speed as a bicycle against the wind. 60 to 100 kms a day!"

Words to live by indeed, they could have been written by Wolter his own self.

https://www.minnpost.com/mnopedia/2020/05/the-kensington-runestone-minnesotas-most-brilliant-and-durable-hoax/?fbclid=IwAR1CiCtGoUra5pY_86elVFpN8cwhc_6j1lofpp6X_3_O9EMGgvH7VlCuKec

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Zark Muckerberg
5/27/2020 10:59:21 am

People who for religious or superstitious reasons want to have nothing whatsoever to do with Facebook can strip off the
?fbclid=IwAR1CiCtGoUra5pY_86elVFpN8cwhc_6j1lofpp6X_3_O9EMGgvH7VlCuKec
and simply use
https://www.minnpost.com/mnopedia/2020/05/the-kensington-runestone-minnesotas-most-brilliant-and-durable-hoax/

https://fbclid.com/how-to-hide-fbclid-from-your-url/

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Jim
5/27/2020 11:55:20 am

How about that, I didn't even realize that was even there, thanks.

Kent
5/27/2020 03:17:02 pm

You're welcome.

Kent
5/28/2020 03:17:41 pm

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SUBMITTED BY INIGO MONTOYA ON 05/27/2020 - 12:26 PM.
Ironically the word for which Mr. Wolter issues a correction is the word that stands out to people who actually know and study Swedish, which means not Mr. Wolter. It is anachronistic; there is no evidence to show that it existed in 1362.

Further, Mr. Wolter is quite simply not telling the truth when he says his work was “peer-reviewed”. He means he showed it to some friends. It has been explained to him ad nauseam that that is not what “peer-review” means. As a “scientist” he should know that, but whaddayagonnado?

Mr. Wolter also believes that the stone was left by Knights Templar (after the end of Knights Templar) being pursued and hunted by Jesuits (before the beginning of the Jesuits) and that the inscription contains a Freemasonic cipher (before the beginning of the Masons). He also believes it is a Freemasonic land claim to the whole of the United States. If true, the Freemasons owe the Indians a huge apology.

Simply put Mr. Wolter has a personal mythology (that’s putting it charitably) which he tries to dress up in scientific clothing. He has been patiently corrected on multiple KRS errors for years but remains, as the Jesuits would say “invincibly ignorant.”

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Jim
5/28/2020 07:06:04 pm

That's gotta be the best short description of Wolters nonsense I have ever seen !

Hats off to the stranger
For tellin' me what he knows
I said, Lord, I hear ya
And I'm walkin' slow

Just a singin' hallelujah, hallelujah
Let a little sunshine down on me
Make this feelin' grow

[Lyrics to Hats off (to the stranger) by Lighthouse]

Jim
5/27/2020 07:29:30 pm

The Freemasons Podcast:

Episode 125- Janet Wolter and Alan Butler: America :Nation of the Venus Sign W/ Scott Wolter too!!

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-125-janet-wolter-alan-butler-america-nation/id1448763471?i=1000474972638

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Jr. Time Lord
5/30/2020 03:01:25 pm

"Wolter cites one of his friends’ ideas that the mounds—built over millennia across the continent—were all part of a single program to recreate the entire heavenly sphere on Earth, each mound representing a star."

In a nutshell, this is the exact same idea talked about by my Docs every Thursday night at the public library. As above, So below. They obviously weren't completely right but, they're not exactly completely wrong either. Looking forward to reading your mound book. Should help gain a better understanding of how these deceased men came to their conclusions.

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Kent
5/30/2020 10:39:28 pm

"Some old dead guys I used to know made similar mouth noises to Wolter" That doesn't make them or anyone look good.

If I had friends or family members who espoused Wolter's ideas I would lock them in the attic. Metaphorically, because actually doing that would be abhorrent, illegal and against my personal moral code.

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