Scott Wolter did another interview, this time with biophysicist and pyramid conspiracy theorist John DeSalvo on the Science and Paranormal Hour radio show. DeSalvo appeared on an episode of America Unearthed and claims to have lost half his listeners as a result. That’s neither here nor there, nor is the fact that I can’t stand his voice. He sounds like a midcentury children’s show clown, and for me it was like listening to fingernails on chalkboard. His habit of shouting all of his questions made it still worse, his effusive praise of Wolter notwithstanding. (Even Wolter noted that DeSalvo was blowing smoke up his ass.)
As with all of his interviews, Wolter rehearses his Kensington Runestone work and how it led him to his extreme pseudohistory ideas. This includes his familiar attacks on scholars and skeptics for doubting his work. The KRS discussion took up nearly a third of the program. Perhaps most ridiculously, Wolter asserts that his Templar conspiracy was both a deep hidden truth and also “the easiest” trail of evidence to discover. He offers a silly claim that the AVM abbreviation on the KRS isn’t a Catholic abbreviation but rather “aum,” which he alleges is the meditative chant of “Eastern religions.” Wolter asserts that the Templars used “plausible deniability” to hide their claims in plain sight—claims they buried in the ground thousands of miles from anyone who would get the vapors from reading them. Seems sort of pointless, really. But if there is anything we can learn from Templar conspiracies, it’s that the Templars enjoyed wasting lots of time and effort on pointless codes no one would ever have seen or read except those who already knew what they said before they got there to read them.
After this, Wolter repeats his assertion that America’s Founding Fathers “weren’t just Freemasons, they were Knights Templar as well. They just didn’t tell anybody.” Then how does Wolter know? There is no evidence whatsoever for Templar affiliation among the Founding generation, not in their writings nor in their records. The Knights Templar were disbanded in the early 1300s, and the Masonic Knights Templar (basically, a fan club for the OG Templars) were not revived until the late 1700s, not active in the United States until the 1800s. Wolter provides no evidence for his claim but asserts that Americans need to understand the “real” history of the United States, which he attributes to a Templar-Masonic neo-pagan equalitarian movement—which is, of course, why America was founded with slavery written into its founding document and Indian genocide and removal was among the newly independent country’s first major policy goals, advocated by many Masonic members of the founding generation.
Wolter suggests that there is a missing second Kensington Runestone made from the other half of the stone slab from which the original was carved. There is no evidence for one.
After letting that hang out there without any follow-up, Wolter asserts that he will “come out again soon” with new claims and new online content, and he adds another attack on skeptics, claiming that they won’t engage with Wolter’s “evidence” but instead prefer to attack Wolter’s personality.
A large chunk of the back half of the hour involved a discussion of Scott Wolter’s concrete analysis work. Wolter states that he is scheduled to travel to Virginia today (Wednesday) to meet with the state’s Department of Transportation about geological work.
Another chunk rehearses Wolter’s beliefs about the Newport Tower as a Templar church with astronomical alignments, rather than as a windmill, which the historical record informs us it was. He repeats the assertion that the Cambridge Round Church is an “exact replica” of the Newport Tower, though it is not. The Cambridge church is round because it was inspired by the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, and it is no more similar to the Newport Tower than other round churches, like the Imperial Cathedral at Aachen—which is to say any rotunda on pillars has a similar shape. A near-exact replica of the Newport Tower does exist—but it’s a windmill in England, so naturally it is ignored. Wolter tells a long story about why he spends his birthday at the Newport Tower each year, and how the Tower is now a fringe history pilgrimage site for believers in occult astronomy.
All in all, this was a familiar interview that only occasionally offered something new.
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