Let me start by thanking Tara Jordan for bringing this to my attention. On Friday morning, Scott Wolter posted a comment on his blog accusing me of being a “hate-blogger” and telling “outright lies” about him and his work. Let me be clear: This is a very serious allegation, and it is one that I take very seriously. Normally I do not respond to personal attacks (you’re welcome to Google my name to see more), but I do make an exception when they are made by prominent fringe figures such as David Childress, Philip Coppens, and now Scott Wolter. Wolter, however, does not consider his statements serious enough to support with facts, stating that he does not “read [Jason’s] stuff” despite somehow feeling comfortable in declaring it “outright lies.” Here are Wolter’s words, posted in response to a question from Ken Davidson asking him about my “hate blog”: The hate-blogger actually helps the show by creating controversy. I don’t read his stuff because it serves no constructive purpose. He doesn't acknowledge sound factual evidence, presents misleading information along with outright lies, and his followers resort to angry name-calling. I’ve been told that I've been called a pathological liar, mentally unstable, and a racist. Why would anyone bother to engage such nonsense? One thing I know for sure, he and his followers are watching the show and that’s a good thing! Scott Wolter’s statement is categorically false. Let’s break it down.
The phenomenon of the hate-blog is typically defined as a blog that is obsessively focused on posting negative information about a specific individual or entity. You can read about the phenomenon at The Awl, where journalist Adrian Chen explains that hate-blogs exist to try to engage the subject in reactions for emotional satisfaction. I remain steadfastly uninterested in Scott Wolter’s emotional state. I have been blogging in some form or another since 2001, and in those thirteen years I have covered hundreds, possibly thousands, of different topics. Just this week, I discussed creationists’ dinosaur claims, right-wing revisionist history, and space aliens shopping in Las Vegas. I regularly review other television programs besides America Unearthed, including Ancient Aliens and Unsealed: Alien Files. In fact, I’ve been reviewing television since my very first post-college job reviewing The O.C. episodically in 2003. In terms of sheer volume of coverage, my “hate” blog would hate Ancient Aliens over America Unearthed nearly 2:1. If I “hate” it is only the hatred of seeing history twisted. Wolter then claims I do not “acknowledge sound factual evidence.” I defy him to find a place where I have failed to acknowledge each piece of evidence presented on America Unearthed. I dutifully report each claim made, noting how Wolter presented it before explaining my take on it. After reading my review, you should be able to understand what Wolter claims as well as my views about it. Wolter seems to think that making a claim entitles him to having it believed; but it is up to him to make a case for his views, not for me to assume he’s right. In many cases, such as Wolter’s claims about caliche in Arizona, others with equal or better credentials and stronger evidence have drawn opposing conclusions. Given the sheer volume of information Wolter leaves out, it’s rather rich for him to accuse me of presenting “misleading” information. I again defy him to find “outright lies” that I tell about his factual evidence or his historical claims. (Or anything else for that matter.) Wolter owes his readers (and mine) the courage of his convictions: Please share these “outright lies.” Like all humans, I am fallible, and I am happy to correct any unintentional errors. We may even have differences of interpretation, occasioned perhaps by my inability to guess the alleged facts behind evidence-free statements. But I don’t tell “outright lies.” I renew the offer I made last year: I remain happy to publish, unedited, for all to read a written piece by Scott Wolter explaining exactly why I am wrong. I have never called Wolter “a pathological liar, mentally unstable, and a racist,” and I have repeatedly said that I do not believe Wolter to be a racist. I am not a psychiatrist and cannot make any statements about his mental condition. To conflate me with people who post comments in response to my blog posts is, however, an act of mendacity. Anyone may post a comment, supportive or oppositional. I am not responsible for others’ comments. They are their own people, and I am on record as removing comments that contain libelous accusations or medical diagnoses as soon as I am informed of them. Does Wolter take responsibility for each comment posted about the show on the H2 Facebook page? Here’s one: “I watched this episode. there were so many factual errors in it I dont think I'll ever watch the show again. I want my hour back please.” Negative comments run about 2:1 on H2’s America Unearthed Facebook posts, even among “fans,” many of whom have become concerned that a conspiracy forced Wolter to pretend Rockwall’s rock wall was natural and not made by Bible giants. I guess H2 is running an anti-Wolter hate page! By Wolter’s logic, he is responsible for all of the comments made on official pages in response to his work, and I would equally be responsible for Steve St. Clair’s and the Rev. Phil Gotsch’s steadfast endorsement of Wolter in this very forum. Let me finish my analysis by noting that Wolter failed to inform his readers of his own conflict of interest in assessing my motivations. Wolter failed to acknowledge that he or his representatives prevailed upon A+E Networks to issue me a cease and desist order and threaten a lawsuit against me in his name. Surely that’s relevant to understanding Wolter’s reaction to me, and it’s the kind of routine bit of disclosure that professional ethics requires. It’s why I remind readers of this whenever if becomes relevant. I don’t do it for my health; surely it would be easier to pretend it never happened, but it would be deceptive to readers. I would, though, suggest that Wolter’s people might take a few minutes to read my reviews. Despite what he thinks, I do offer a wealth of material as well as suggestions that, if implemented, would have made his show stronger. For example, in reviewing this week’s episode, I suggested that exploring the geological evidence that connected the Aztecs to Spiro Mounds in Oklahoma would have been both more interesting and more historically relevant than his pointless submarine product placement adventure. It’s probably also worth noting that in his other comments on the blog, Wolter also admitted to staging large chunks of the show (isn’t that “misleading information”?) and focusing on “entertainment” that compromises his ability to tell “taboo” truths. “If they truly thought it was all crap, they wouldn't complain would they?” Wolter said of his critics. Um, well, yes, I would. It’s all “crap” and that’s why I complain. If it were true, I wouldn’t be complaining! To conclude on a more positive note, for those of you who want to complain that I am “obsessed” with Wolter despite writing on many other topics each week, ask yourself why you are here and not at Right Pundits, where each week conservative columnist Andrew Zarowny offers a full-length review of the latest episode of America Unearthed from a credulous perspective and without any outside research. Here’s his “Secret Blueprint” review, and I believe, if I am not mistaken, it’s exactly the kind of review Scott Wolter’s super-fans and friends want to see. Yet they aren’t there. Is Mr. Zarowny “obsessed” with Wolter since he does what I do but from a believer’s point of view? Or does his endorsement of Wolter’s views absolve him? If so, why? I challenge each person who claims I am obsessed to have the courage of his convictions and treat Mr. Zarowny the same way. What other reason could a person possibly have to review television shows each week except for deep-seated obsession?
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Adam W
1/19/2014 03:44:41 am
Great post, Jason.
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The Complete Comment from Scott Wolter
1/19/2014 08:31:38 am
Scott Wolter
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1/19/2014 08:38:10 am
That would be the complete comment I have given as a block quote above.
Fantasy History Watcher
1/19/2014 10:07:59 pm
Nothing new, going into persecution-complex mode
CHV
2/1/2014 02:16:28 pm
Exactly. Wolter's chronic hypersensitivity to criticism is pretty remarkable. IMO, it's rooted to textbook Narcissism.
Brian W
1/19/2014 03:49:15 am
Jason, thank you for what you do here. I was so excited when AU first began. I love history and although i dont hold them as fact, i like shows like AU that give a different viewpoint or idea. That was before i started reading your blog. After a couple of episodes i began to wonder, man if this is true my history books have been lying to me. Some research on the internet proved that AU was not what i thought. Every episode got worse and worse and more warped into SW ideas from his books that it became a joke to me. The facts you present to all of us are priceless. Its a joke to me that people can defend SW and AU and even more sad that SW believes what hes presenting is true. I guess if i was him i'd say the same thing about your blog, because just saying that its hate and lies gets him out of actually defending himself with facts. Keep it up, Keep giving us the facts. thank you
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Brian W
1/19/2014 05:19:10 am
I realize this season he's strayed from his favorite subject matter and is being lead by his producers, but in general was my point.
LynnBrant
1/19/2014 06:19:44 am
Brian, I understand, I just differ with you on that. I think there is no subject matter that he wouldn't throw overboard for some promising new material. Especially now that he is desperately in need of new material. 1/19/2014 05:33:06 am
Extremely ironical & utterly hypocritical for Scott Wolter to label academics & scientists as liars,incompetent,fraudulent,stupid,short minded individuals,participants in a conspiracy to "suppress the truth" etc....while he systematically avoids confrontation & refuse public debate.(and in the same breath,also denounces the "name calling" from the other side).
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1/19/2014 05:39:06 am
Jason
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1/19/2014 05:41:05 am
Ha! Obviously, Tara is no one's bitch and is an able defender of her views. As mentioned many times, we do not always agree.
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Only Me
1/19/2014 09:21:22 am
Boy, did they get it wrong! You are "The" bitch.
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Clint Knapp
1/19/2014 05:46:11 am
Minor note; this post is displaying just below the latest AU dissection though I didn't see it last night when I read that review and the Creationist Texts article was second from the top at that time. Weebly snafu, or did the Creationist-Templar Conspiracy make me miss this one?
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1/19/2014 05:48:23 am
I can't make it display at the top of the posts, and I'm not sure why. I'll see if I can get it straightened out.
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Clint Knapp
1/19/2014 07:00:02 am
Yep, all seems in order now.
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/19/2014 06:09:09 am
Jason …
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1/19/2014 06:22:00 am
You're right, Phil. Words and ideas have consequences, just like when Scott Wolter re-uses, apparently without recognizing it, old racist nineteenth century ideas and gives them new life.
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/19/2014 06:29:10 am
I'm saying that a reader COULD easily conclude that YOU are ascribing racist or racialist ideas to Scott Wolter BY IMPLICATION … and that such an approach is … incautious at best ... dishonest at worst, and certainly NOT germane to a 21st century investigation of the GENUINE origins of the Aztec people … 1/19/2014 06:37:17 am
Was that last line intended as a threat? You seem to be accusing me of dishonesty. How is a review of the origins of a myth not germane to an investigation of said myth? The entire reason a legend of Aztecs in Wisconsin exists is BECAUSE of the nineteenth century ideas I discussed. Without that information, it is impossible to understand why that myth took hold in the first place.
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/19/2014 06:44:52 am
Patiently … 1/19/2014 06:50:07 am
But, Phil, you told me how you were happy that the show inspired discussion about the real stories behind Wolter's entertainment. Now you're upset at what the real story actually is!
An Over-Educated Grunt
1/19/2014 06:54:17 am
And again, your argument is that just because it isn't NOVA we should accept garbage. I suppose you also believe that humans, being imperfectible, should just go ahead and sin it up? After all, we can't all be saints, so why not accept the lowest level of behavior for all?
Tara Jordan
1/19/2014 06:54:44 am
Rev. Phil Gotsch
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/19/2014 06:55:51 am
Well, whatever … 1/19/2014 06:57:33 am
If I may, Phil, summarize your position:
LynnBrant
1/19/2014 07:20:11 am
Phil, Who is so defensive about certain ideas having racist underpinnings, you or Scott? And so what if Jason is suggesting that? So what? Do you think that's somehow actionable? What makes it "incautious?" What is the nature of the "thin ice" of which you speak?
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/19/2014 07:48:29 am
Jason --
Jason D.
1/19/2014 08:39:39 am
If anything, Wolter is being disingenuous by not acknowledging the full history of the theories he's exploring/exploiting. I applaud Jason for delving deeper and exposing the full checkered history of these theories and that they are clearly tainted. If Wolter is concerned with appearing as a racist, maybe he should stay away from these tainted claims. That's not on Jason, that's on Scott.
Gary
1/19/2014 10:45:58 am
Most of Dr. Phil's posts seem to have a veiled threat in them. 1/19/2014 10:48:43 am
To coin a phrase: I am here simply reflecting back to you that I can see how others may indeed (reading-between-the-lines of your blog comments) think that you are imputing a threat...
The Other J.
1/20/2014 03:21:28 pm
Rev. Phil: "Lighten up, Jason … Relax … Take a couple deep breaths … Don't take your self -- or Scott Wolter's TV shows -- so SERIOUSLY …"
Harry
1/19/2014 11:47:07 pm
Phil,
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Tara Jordan
1/19/2014 07:13:05 am
Rev. Phil
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/19/2014 07:51:09 am
Tara (whoever you are) … I don't come here for "debate," so your disinclination matters to me not at all …
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1/19/2014 04:57:08 pm
Unfortunately,your best buddy Scott "standing on the shoulders of giants" can run but he cant hide.Even amongst his idolaters,some are awakening to his blatant dishonesty, accusing him of "insulting his followers intelligence" (an oxymoron).
Jase
1/19/2014 07:18:02 am
Jason, your excellent critiques of shows such as Ancient Aliens and America Unearthed do not cause me to enjoy the shows any less. Once you understand where the ideas for the shows are coming from and how wildly inaccurate the presentation is, it becomes that much more hilarious and entertaining to watch.
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LynnBrant
1/19/2014 07:21:56 am
And if so, did it work?
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1/19/2014 07:22:16 am
That's actually a fascinating question, and I did a few blog posts (later combined for a chapter in my print-on-demand and eBook Faking History) where I looked at Soviet ancient astronaut theories. (Search for "Soviet" and you should find them.) There is evidence that the Soviets supported UFO and ancient astronaut work in the 1950s in order to discredit Western religion, and Morning of the Magicians makes quite plain the debt it owes to Soviet sources, which are frequently cited. Much of the evidence comes from declassified CIA and NSA documents, which I've posted in my Library. Interestingly, as soon as the West started having its ancient astronaut craze in the 1960s, the Soviets promptly dropped the idea as unscientific. I'm sure that wasn't a complete coincidence.
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Jase
1/19/2014 08:50:52 am
Thank you for the reply. I will check out your blog posts and book Faking History. The two books by Christopher Andrews on the Mitrokhin Archive have some entertaining examples of how the KGB was occasionally ingenious at spreading false information and theories in order to ideologically subvert their enemies and influence world public opinion.
Will
1/19/2014 08:41:44 am
Subscribe
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Dan
1/19/2014 11:07:04 am
This video was just posted to Youtube today. Its a takedown of the "Lost Colony" episode where one of the guest talks about how badly Wolter lied about the Roanoke evidence:
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CFC
1/19/2014 11:13:38 am
This is just Wolter's way of diverting attention away from his inability to respond to the points that Jason makes in his reviews. When you can't rationally discuss the facts, attack the one who can. A typical pseudoscience tactic.
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Chris
1/19/2014 11:26:27 am
Jason,
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1/19/2014 11:49:23 am
Not only did I review "The O.C." in its first year, the producers paid me what I presume was a compliment when they used wording from my review of the show's pilot in a fourth-season episode where the Cohens present Ryan with a slideshow of how he changed their lives.
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Chris
1/19/2014 12:09:34 pm
Haha, amazing! I remember watching that show with some of my female college friends, though I stopped when it started going down hill halfway through season 2. Do have a link to your old reviews? 1/19/2014 12:20:44 pm
Sadly, the website I wrote for no longer exists, and when they merged into what is now TV.com they purged all of the old material, including my reviews. So far as I know, they are gone forever.
Jason says: "The phenomenon of the hate-blog is typically defined as a blog that is obsessively focused on posting negative information about a specific individual or entity."
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1/19/2014 11:42:20 am
This from Gunn, who admits that he does not read any of my writing on ancient astronauts, which makes up more than half of my blog posts. You diagnosed an obsession from a set of TV reviews, which is only a fraction of my blog posts, and an even smaller segment of my work in total.
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Gunn
1/19/2014 11:51:59 am
We're talking about a sincere focus on one person. 1/19/2014 11:54:01 am
He's the host of the show. How would you review the show without discussing the person who presents himself as its driving force? Could you review "What Would Ryan Lochte Do?" without discussing Ryan Lochte?
Gunn
1/19/2014 11:58:17 am
You know I'm not alone in thinking that you've been riding Wolter too hard. It comes across as crass and spiteful, and probably isn't helping your career in the long run. I feel that you are doing a pretty good job, but can do better when it comes to not coming across as too hostile. 1/19/2014 12:02:57 pm
But he's the host of the show and speaks of its findings in the first person. How would you criticize his obviously incorrect claims in a way that ignores the fact that he said them? He has chosen to personalize the program by making into an adventure narrative of his "quest" for the "truth." In so doing, he had made it impossible to completely divorce his ideas from him. That's a choice he made (purposely so) in order to use his personality and persona to lend likeability and credibility to his otherwise low-evidence findings.
Gunn
1/19/2014 12:25:15 pm
Yes, I can see that this may be so. Part of his persona is built on the fact that he is already perceived as being an outspoken advocate for alternative history...well, you know, because of his initial involvement with the KRS and the ensuing insults. They are companions, still. We need to leave him room for redemption on some of these other issues.
Gunn
1/19/2014 11:50:32 am
"...would help make Jason's own future more secure."
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/19/2014 12:32:23 pm
Yes …
J.A. Dickey
1/19/2014 12:37:35 pm
Gunn, i respect your take on the KRS and the grove of poplar 1/19/2014 11:50:49 am
And by the way, what exactly do you think would be different in my reviews if this were "America Unearthed with David Childress"?
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Gunn
1/19/2014 11:53:26 am
Not seeing Wolter scorned. 1/19/2014 11:55:37 am
So your problem is that you just like Wolter? Would you be here at all if someone other than Wolter were hosting the show? I've been much meaner to David Childress. Does that bother you?
Gunn
1/19/2014 12:11:02 pm
No, I am very selective in what I put into my brain, as I only have so much time on my hands to waste. I don't know who Childress is. I can and have done this with most sports, too, which I consider to be an absolute waste of time. There are things one doesn't want to fill his head with. This has left me to only consider your attitude towards Wolter, and Steve and perhaps a few others here.
Bobby
1/19/2014 02:45:51 pm
What if this Childress knew some important information about stone holes? You'd never know about it.
Jason D.
1/19/2014 06:52:17 pm
Gunn;
Runestone Rubbish
1/19/2014 10:15:48 pm
Gunn Sinclair is feeling sorry for Scott Wolter because Scott believes the KRS to be the "Rosetta Stone", the foundation to all his activity
tom
1/21/2014 07:13:54 am
Can you just shut up about that runestone? It's fake. Get over it. Jeez.....
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J.A. Dickey
1/19/2014 11:49:31 am
Scott Wolter has as next week's episode a look at the events
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J.A. Dickey
1/19/2014 11:56:06 am
sorry about that, typo
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J.A. Dickey
1/19/2014 12:16:59 pm
We had two cities less than 100 miles apart, and spies
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BobM
1/19/2014 12:02:36 pm
Jesus Jason, I just spent 90 seconds reading that bloody right wingnut website, and now I need a bath. I blame you :-).
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J.A. Dickey
1/19/2014 12:04:37 pm
I've come to respect Gunn's take on the KRS even though
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Walt
1/19/2014 12:59:38 pm
"Normally I do not respond to personal attacks ... but I do make an exception when they are made by prominent fringe figures..."
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1/19/2014 01:03:54 pm
I don't really have the luxury of ignoring it when someone with a mass media platform attacks me, as for example David Childress did in 2006. It's not that it was a personal attack on me but that it was from a prominent figure and therefore needs to have a public response because new readers who don't know me will see the attack and want to know if it's true.
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Walt
1/19/2014 03:51:56 pm
I don't really blame you for responding, it's just clear to me that it's personal. And I think he started it, if it matters. But, it's probably tough for him to separate what you've written from what's appeared in the comments. Collectively, the content of his show has been mocked, his backpack, the contents of his backpack (his own book), his shorts, his legs, his staged conversations, and of course the production quality. That's just off the top of my head. No one has mocked his vehicle or his family, but that's about it. 1/19/2014 10:35:12 pm
Does it make any difference to you that I have also criticized Giorgio Tsoukalos's hats printed with an outline of his hair that he gave away at ComicCon? Or David Childress's commissioned oil portrait of himself as Indiana Jones? These figures' self-presentation is part of the package they create to make their ideas palatable. For the record, I've also mocked Josh Bernstein for dressing like Indiana Jones on Digging for the Truth.
Walt
1/20/2014 09:01:42 am
I don't have a problem with anything you've written or I wouldn't continue to read it. I'm just saying I can understand how Scott would feel that this site is a place where he will be mocked and ridiculed regardless of the correctness of his positiion. Whether that constitutes a "hate-blog" I don't know.
Coridan
1/20/2014 11:14:43 pm
If there were an episode discussing a theory with the major facts laid out and evidence supporting both sides and wasn't done as some goofy reality adventure; I would certainly give Wolter and AU credit for it, point it out as a great episode, and then likely be disappointed the next week.
Only Me
1/19/2014 01:08:29 pm
Hoo boy, I just love the "shoot the messenger" mentality that is running rampant on this blog. Allow me to expound.
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J.A. Dickey
1/19/2014 01:27:12 pm
Mildly said in SW's defense... he commented to a comment.
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Gunn
1/19/2014 01:47:33 pm
Only Me, I think one would have to know exactly what Aryan ideology is being espoused, and analyze the situation to see whether aspects of the ideology, broken down, can be construed as being "innocent." What parts make up the whole? Should one have to carry the full burden of past history if only "innocent" aspects are being considered and talked about? Are there, indeed, any innocent angles? Can a portion of a bad apple still be good?
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Only Me
1/19/2014 04:51:55 pm
Gunn, please tell me you're not serious.
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Gunn
1/20/2014 04:50:26 am
Of course, I'm not in any way suggesting that the Aryan philosophy is good and correct. I'm merely saying that Wolter may be picking a few suitable cherries from an overall bad tree. Unless you know exactly what he said, and from the angle he approached the tree, you can't say he didn't pick a suitable cherry to eat.
Joe
1/20/2014 07:32:07 am
Gunn, 1/20/2014 09:10:05 am
Joe, I know people aren't necessarily saying Wolter is a racist, only that he may come across as a racist because of some of his source material, or that he's being way-careless about political correctness.
Only Me
1/20/2014 09:56:11 am
"Or, is this proposed modern-times, Nazi-related crime in Jason's head only imaginary? Mostly imaginary? A smidgen imaginary?"
Joe
1/20/2014 10:27:17 am
Gunn,
Gunn
1/21/2014 07:36:53 am
Only Me and Joe:
Only Me
1/21/2014 11:57:34 am
I'm glad to see we agree that Wolter is neither a racist nor advocating racism and Nazism.
Joe
1/21/2014 03:15:00 pm
Gunn,
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/19/2014 02:03:15 pm
I think more than one nerve has been *touched* here ...
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The Other J.
1/20/2014 03:49:11 pm
Then stop touching people, reverend.
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Brent
1/19/2014 03:51:13 pm
Phil,
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Brent
1/19/2014 04:05:07 pm
These are obviously just my own personal opinions, and not those of Jason Colavito or other users...since apparently (judging from the content of this blog post) that needs clarifying to some people.
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/19/2014 04:29:42 pm
The "truth" that I post here is indeed ENTIRELY about (1) Scott Wolter's character and honesty … AND (2) the fact that the "AU" TV shows are just that -- TV shows produced for commercial purposes ... 1/19/2014 05:40:54 pm
Rev. Phil Gotsch.
Seeker
1/20/2014 04:48:19 pm
Brent, well done and thank you. I'm fairly new to this blog, and your comments hit exactly on what has bothered me about posts from the Reverend. I appreciate that he is trying to support a friend, but I've never understood why he thinks it's OK to ignore truth if it's just "entertainment."
Dan
1/19/2014 05:28:40 pm
Its pretty ironic that a "reverend" is seen as someone who is a pillar of intellectual dishonesty when the entire point of his job is to brainwash people to believe in an invisible friend while dropping off their contributions. Organized religion is the greatest con in the history of mankind. Wolter's silly show is small beans compared to the massive fraud perpetrated on mankind by the likes of the "reverend".
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Only Me
1/19/2014 06:27:11 pm
Dan, if you have legitimate criticism of Rev. Phil's words or actions, leave it at that. Personally attacking the man's faith and calling into question his character because he represents it, via his position, is pretty damn low.
Dan
1/19/2014 06:54:03 pm
I see. He can be hailed as a "pillar" based only on his position, but can't be criticized if that position is actually a front for an organized con?
Only Me
1/19/2014 07:28:39 pm
I'm not saying he can't be criticized. Titles in front of names do not free one from criticism. I'm just saying to address the man himself, something you just did in your last post.
Brent
1/20/2014 12:20:11 am
+1 to Only Me
An Over-Educated Grunt
1/20/2014 12:34:28 am
Actually, Only Me, it's fortunate that you brought this up. The appeal to authority is one party of the problem I have with both Wolter and his snake oil and Phil's defense of it. I should say now that I believe more in organized religion than in its focus; the Church is why we can read after the fall of Rome. That he is a Reverend I will not at all criticize. That he is a Reverend who associates with a man who makes his living either selling his own easily detected lies, or selling lies for others, and instead of trying to improve the situation tells us that it is our fault for not liking his friend - THAT bothers me. Similarly good men and women have made not just professions but vocations of geology and labored quite literally in the dark. Wolter is willing to associate his name with the profession and therefore the profession with his work, selling easily detected frauds and ignoring where the evidence really goes, and I find that offensive.
Gunn
1/21/2014 08:25:04 am
Dan, you're making the same classic mistake Jason often makes, and that is decrying the notion of creationism and/or God. You dare to come here and insult a significant number of people visiting, including myself.
Walt
1/20/2014 10:41:22 am
You're projecting your own feelings if you think each is portrayed as "the truth". They're both just trying to make a buck on commercial television. If they were trying to trying to tell the truth, they would produce documentaries at their own expense to air on non-commercial television. If a disclaimer is needed to air a show on commercial television, then every show in existence needs one, even if it happens to be truthful, because that just can't be counted on. It's commercial entertainment where money determines success not non-commercial television where quality is revered.
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Brent
1/21/2014 12:12:05 am
I guess I was misled by statements like "We're going to find out the truth," or "going to expose the truth about X" etc. etc. Wolter really has used the word quite a bit, often in some sort of loud declaration.
Walt
1/21/2014 05:20:41 pm
Yeah, that's true, and he believes it, I think. I'm sure Joel Osteen believes what he's selling as well. But, I don't think the networks airing the shows are required to believe the content. They care about making sure the show doesn't say anything that will lose sponsors or viewers. 1/19/2014 04:24:58 pm
I listened carefully to Scott Wolter on the Energy Radio Show with Rita Louise.I realized the man is even more irrational & inconsistent on his own.On the American Unearthed program,he is obviously reading a script.Someone is directed him,telling him what to say & how to say it.Alone,Scott Wolter is a total disaster,there is no one to control his egocentrism & gooffines.Wolter makes extravagant claims after extravagant claims,you have to wonder how he made it so far,as a certified "geologist".In a foreseeable future, we can expect Wolter to deal with issues related to chupacabras, extraterrestrial biological entities,living pterodactyl,& secret tunnels beneath the McMartin preschool.
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Clint Knapp
1/20/2014 01:50:02 am
When one's primary thesis is that academia is lying, and one's mission statement is to uncover all the things academia is lying about, there's really no depth to which one cannot plunge. One may eventually run out of air going too deep, though.
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/20/2014 02:48:18 am
Over Educated Grunt:
Matt Mc
1/20/2014 02:58:17 am
Rev. I think Jason is doing a good job at telling the part of the story the Scott chooses not to. I really enjoy the background parts of his reviews.
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/20/2014 03:36:30 am
Yes … Exactly my suggestion to ALL …
Jason D.
1/20/2014 04:51:21 am
That almost literally happened last episode.
Clint Knapp
1/20/2014 04:02:28 pm
It was an irresistible metaphor, I must admit.
M Donovan
1/20/2014 04:27:34 am
Like others have commented, I do not watch the show as I do not want to help the ratings in any way. I read this blog for the reviews and would rather Jason profit from my viewing (which he does not, apparently) than Wolter. Also, I get so angry at H2 (and its affiliates and its TV brethren) when I see Scotty on TV.
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/20/2014 04:34:12 am
LOL … You apparently do have other options, of course …
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Gunn
1/20/2014 05:25:38 am
Hang in there, Rev. Scott can use a few Christian friends who will pray for him and his family, and hope for good things to come his way.
The Other J.
1/20/2014 03:52:16 pm
See Gunn, this is when you go a little too far. You're wishing harm and disfigurement on people who disagree with you, and doing so for your own amusement. That's a far cry from disagreeing with an argument. There's a difference.
terry the censor
1/20/2014 04:30:34 pm
I've been away for a while but I see Rev. Phil is still pushing his disingenuous call for civility for a man, Scott Wolter, who himself seems incapable of respecting facts or persons.
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/20/2014 04:32:49 pm
Terry --
terry the censor
1/20/2014 04:47:46 pm
Rev. Phil, I was not insulting you, I was describing you.
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/20/2014 04:50:23 pm
Terry ...
Gunn
1/21/2014 08:52:39 am
The Other J. says: "See Gunn, this is when you go a little too far. You're wishing harm and disfigurement on people who disagree with you."
The Other J.
1/21/2014 10:34:09 am
Really Gunn, I'm not the person with whom you want to argue the definition of metaphor -- that's what I did my graduate work in. There aren't two things being juxtaposed to create a third interpretive space in your statement, only an image that conveys how amused you'd be to see people who disagree with you grinding their teeth down to bloody stumps. Creating an image is just that; it's not a metaphor. A metaphor is when two unlike images (or words, or statements -- some kind of rhetoric, visual or otherwise) are juxtaposed in a way that creates a conflict of interpretation resulting in a third meaning that differs from the direct rhetorical interpretations of each individual image (or word, or statement). Examples: The Legion of Boom were a Hoover Dam against the flow of San Francisco's offense; The Other J's brow furrowed into canyons and chasms having to explain metaphor, and he pleaded to the cold unlistening universe that he wouldn't have to re-explain the snarl of metaphors in these examples.
terry the censor
1/20/2014 04:45:38 pm
Jason, keep up the good work. Don't be too exercised by the dishonest debaters who come here. They project their own state of obsession onto you -- they are obsessed with the stubbornness of facts. It makes them crazy that scientific processes do not confirm their world view. And since they can't argue the facts, they feel safer attacking you, imputing obsession and lack of civility. For them, criticism of their buddies and their pet topics is never ever earned -- to them, fact-based criticism is always just a conspiracy.
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/21/2014 02:00:45 am
Terry …
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terry the censor
1/21/2014 06:58:34 am
Rev. Phil, practise what you preach: respect FACTS. You stalk this blog chastising people for pointing out lies, implying that fact-checking is mere character assassination of the liar.
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/21/2014 03:56:15 pm
Terry --
Tom
1/20/2014 08:26:44 pm
Has anyone tried to comment on Scott Wolter's blog yet?
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Tom
1/20/2014 08:27:23 pm
Sorry, it should be - successfully commented on his blog...
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Brent
1/21/2014 12:24:48 am
I have. Essentially, I asked why he criticizes academics for not saying "i dont know" without adding "its probably X" when he himself very rarely says "i dont know" without adding "but im pretty sure its Y." This was on his blog post about Vikings in America.
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RLewis
1/21/2014 01:29:32 am
I have also commented on (and received responses) a couple of the episode blogs. He was courteous but essentially (IMHO) provided no additional insight into the questions I submitted. I doubt that I will go back. He doesn't really add more information (i.e. add links to more research, recommended reading. provide additional facts) I see his blog as basically an extension of the show (cross-channel marketing).
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J.A. Dickey
1/21/2014 08:57:14 am
i did make a rather rambling comment to SW in one of
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Bill
1/22/2014 02:09:06 pm
No offense Jason, but reading through your site here, your obsession with mocking Wolter and his show in your Unearthed reviews IS truly "hate blogging". It's fairly easy to review and critique shows, books, etc., it's tough to be creative with original thought and insight.
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/22/2014 03:40:06 pm
Yes … Critiques and argument and discussion are ALWAYS welcome … but snotty snarky condescending ad hominem stuff is … just nastiness …
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Tom
1/22/2014 07:09:00 pm
Actually, the show has been critiqued fairly and discussed. If you've bothered to read the reviews, Jason has given more time and research into the topics and ideas presented on the show than the show itself probably deserves. Where you perceive Jason attacking and mocking wolter in the reviews is in pointing out some of the absurdities (excavating the ark with a digger) and comic portrayals by the host of the show as a rugged adventurer who rails against the falsehoods perpetrated by academia.
Tom
1/22/2014 07:09:07 pm
Actually, the show has been critiqued fairly and discussed. If you've bothered to read the reviews, Jason has given more time and research into the topics and ideas presented on the show than the show itself probably deserves. Where you perceive Jason attacking and mocking wolter in the reviews is in pointing out some of the absurdities (excavating the ark with a digger) and comic portrayals by the host of the show as a rugged adventurer who rails against the falsehoods perpetrated by academia.
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/23/2014 02:08:13 am
No …
Tom
1/23/2014 02:25:11 am
A show which claims that academia is lying to us, and misleads the viewer through obfuscating fact, should be treated with the same respect and civility accorded to 'real' documentaries produced by PBS or the academy of sciences right?
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/23/2014 02:32:55 am
Gosh … Ummm … The vast, vast, vast majority of program offerings on TV are NOT "PBS" documentaries …
An Over-Educated Grunt
1/23/2014 04:25:33 am
All right, Phil, I'll shake your bouncy booty. You want substantial criticism, here goes. The Great Lakes Copper Heist episode, at the very tall end of the episode, they attempt to prove a link between Minoan copper and Great Lakes copper. This is well established. It is well understood. It is not, in short, revolutionary science worthy of a PBS documentary. The way you establish that metal artifacts are from the same deposit, or for that matter two rocks, is by comparing the trace fractions in the object. It is not by comparing the copper fraction. What comparing the copper fractions will establish is that copper is in fact copper. Scott Wolter is not merely a geologist, but a petrographer, used to working with thin slices to do precisely this. Despite this, he blithely announces that copper is copper. This is bad science that he as a petrographer should understand. For him to say otherwise says either that he is professionally dishonest, or incompetent. Those are the only two possible explanations for him letting that slide. I don't care if he is professionally dishonest because his head was turned by the camera. I can understand it, but the cause doesn't change the effect.
Tom
1/23/2014 04:51:06 am
You misunderstood my tone R.P.G. If the show isn't a documentary, then what ... IS ... IT ... PHIL?
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/23/2014 06:22:02 am
Over educated grunt --
An Over-Educated Grunt
1/23/2014 07:34:45 am
Phil, sweetheart, you dear simple man, it's not libel if it's true. Part of his job as a geologist is to know basic materials science. Part of his job as a Woo TV host is to ignore that. There is a conflict between those two points, and Scott Wolter choose the bright lights rather than the truth he already knew.
terry the censor
1/23/2014 10:32:36 am
@Rev Phil
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/23/2014 12:19:29 pm
There IS a difference -- a HUGE difference -- between discussing and critiquing the CONTENT of a TV show … and slinging personal insults at its host ...
An Over-Educated Grunt
1/23/2014 12:40:57 pm
Okay then, P-Diddy, explain to me how the copper purity debacle came out of his mouth without being either professionally dishonest or incompetent at geology, please. Those really are the only two choices. Either he sold his professional soul for a paycheck and let the show runners put words in his mouth, he put them there himself, or he was so ignorant of the basics of his profession and so arrogant that he could not be bothered to check that he is incompetent as a geologist. Do you not see the problem here? He routinely says things on TV that contradict not just established opinion (which is fine) but the basic standards and best practices of his supposed profession, while at the same time calling on said profession for his credibility (not fine). And yes, it is about Scott Wolter, BECAUSE THE WORDS ARE COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH. He is practicing bad geology in a public forum, and you defend him for it!
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/23/2014 01:20:29 pm
Over Educated Grunt --
Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/24/2014 12:19:44 am
When the unhelpful personal insult slinging feedback loop stops, it will no longer be necessary to point it out as such …
Tom
1/24/2014 12:58:16 am
And once again... you've failed to say anything. Don't bother addressing anything in the contents - just focus on perceived slights and insults and play the hurt victim. Yawn!
Ver. Ghil Potsch
1/24/2014 01:01:29 am
The "America Unearthed" TV shows have positive value in stimulating interest in and discussion of North American history and pre-history …
An Over-Educated Grunt
1/23/2014 01:37:21 pm
Neither apparently do you. You can't be bothered to spell or punctuate my chosen name properly, figured I would return the favor. Frankly I get tired of hearing you whine nonstop about how cruel everyone is to your friend Scott. You are here to defend his good name and character. Well, Rev Run, he needs all the defense he can get, because he pulled his goalie in the first period. I have routinely pointed out the bad geology, and the steps he could have taken to avoid it. In return I get "it's not NOVA," as if not being the best is an excuse for sloppy work. Apparently calling his work on screen sloppy, unprofessional, and professionally dishonest is ad hominem. All I am doing is going where the evidence that your friend provides leads. If that is a personal attack, fine.
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Rev. Phil Gotsch
1/23/2014 02:34:13 pm
Over Educated Grunt (whoever you are):
Bat. C. Stoner
1/23/2014 07:06:50 pm
RPG has only stock phrases and is incapable of responding to criticism in a civilized way without resorting to crying victim. As someone mentioned earlier, a continual feedback loop has been turned into an argument. reminds me of religion...
An Over-Educated Grunt
1/24/2014 02:17:44 am
You seem to think I have some sort of animus against Scott Wolter. I do not. I want to see him succeed, in a manner that does not make him look like he hates his chosen profession. There area wide variety of historical topics a geologist would be hugely interesting on - off the top of my head, how the chalky limestone of the plains favored long-rooted grasses rather than corn, rye, or wheat, how the easily erodible limestone of Omaha Beach defined the battlefield, how Seattle exists because it sits along a path of least resistance for water between the Olympics and Cascades, how the Mississippi was tamed at New Orleans by Eads...
Mark
1/23/2014 05:20:40 am
On the H2 website there is a statement about a "new science". Could someone educate me about this claim of a "new science" that Mr. Wolter's (via his company) claims to have developed? Where has he published his methodology? Is there a list of names of scientists who verify this "new science"?
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1/23/2014 05:25:14 am
The new science is called "archaepetrography," and it is apparently unique to Wolter. (There is another person who uses the same word but for a slightly different purpose.) Wolter claims that it is the use of petrography to date archaeological material through microscopic examination of stone objects. The only descriptions of his methods are in his own books, and these methods have never been published in a peer-reviewed journal. I am not aware of any archaeologists or geologists who endorse this as a scientific discipline.
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Mark
1/23/2014 05:31:15 am
Thanks for the quick response.
Gunn
1/23/2014 02:37:15 pm
I'm very interested in the potential for any new advances in studying carvings in rocks, both stonehole carvings and image carvings. So much in this immediate MN/SD area depends on scientific enquiry in "carving aging," which archaepetrography could be considered as doing, I suppose.
An Over-Educated Grunt
1/24/2014 02:04:41 am
The problem with your proposed technique, Gunn, is that the rocks themselves are not carbon-dateable, so you would only get the dates of any organic inclusions, which at the sites you describe are thoroughly mixed. With an intact, pristine site, there are, as you say, a wide variety of dating techniques, but site disturbance makes all of them useless. Your first task to prove that there was a New Gotland is to find such a site. Until that happens, it must remain in the realm of speculation. The good news is that the tools are all there, and at their most basic level (document review, site walks, sieving) are easily accessible to amateurs (including me, before you write me off as another academic, since I am not a historian or archeologist). The bad news is that they are incredibly boring and results worth mentioning take months to years to bear fruit.
Gunn
1/24/2014 05:53:09 am
I agree that site disturbance would make a site useless for this purpose. What I'm proposing is an undisturbed site. Archaeologists would be able to tell, while processing a site, whether or not the soil was disturbed, making it either useful or un-useful to continue. Anything once living found within the layer of chips/powder may possibly be carbon-dated, giving the approximate date of the carving.
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Jason D.
1/26/2014 04:41:02 pm
Here's some fan mail Wolter supposedly received, posted on his blog
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Only Me
1/26/2014 05:45:46 pm
"You have made enemies and that is a good thing."
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JustAnObservation
1/27/2014 02:42:04 pm
Jason,
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1/27/2014 10:29:39 pm
If you've read only a few of my posts, you haven't read the literally hundreds of other topics I discuss regularly. If I write about America Unearthed often it is because it's the highest rated show in my area of interest.
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JustAnObservation
1/28/2014 02:39:51 am
I'm not disagreeing with you on the fact of if he gets his information the same way. I have read some of your other articles too it's just when I google your name there tends to be a high amount of articles tied to discrediting Scott Wolter. Besides that my whole point is who is to say that any of the people who make claims are so called experts. The so called experts are the same ones as I said before said that Columbus discovered America. Just because a group of credited people get together and believe the same thing doesn't always make then right. Most of the science used to prove these theories is still fairly young and the way I see it unless there 100% undeniable proof of these instances, expert or not its all just theories. 1/28/2014 02:44:53 am
I don't control which pieces readers read, and thus which articles Google ranks highest.
Jason D.
1/28/2014 04:00:39 am
The Wolter supporters love to point out Columbus not being first to America. But they miss the point with this. If anything it shows how mainstream science is willing to change its ideas on the basis of new evidence. The fact is that we don't have recalcitrant historians pounding away that Columbus was here first, we have solid, reliable evidence to the contrary so the theories evolved with that evidence.
kevin
2/2/2014 12:01:29 pm
To say there are heated views here is a slight understatement. Unless any of the topics affects you directly then change the channel. I would you assume everyone here realizes TV producers are going to inflate these topics like a balloon to get people to watch. Consequently, Jason devises a website for dicussing these topics. I'm sure his website doesn't hurt for advertising his journalistic endeavors either. I certainly never heard of him before the website. To his credit that was very crafty.
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mark
2/9/2014 04:13:12 am
You dont respond to personal attacks, and yet is the basis of your "work". lol. Priceless
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