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Scott Wolter to Speak at Freemason Meeting

5/7/2014

108 Comments

 
I’m sure many of you have heard about Satanists’ plans to erect a statue of Baphomet on the grounds of the Oklahoma State Capitol, taking advantage of rules that state’s legislature put in place to give legal cover to the erection of a Ten Commandments monument on the grounds. Last night Stephen Colbert did a segment on the statue, and he pointed out, somewhat inaccurately, that Baphomet was the pagan god worshiped by the Knights Templar. The name appears in the confessions of several Templars, extracted under torture, but with no clear consensus on who or what was indicated by the name. The famous image of Baphomet was actually created in the nineteenth century by Eliphas Lévi, who based the design on medieval depictions of the devil, eighteenth century Tarot designs, and elements of pagan deities.
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Eliphas Lévi's "Baphomet"
Of course, Baphomet is today widely believed to be a corruption of the name Muhammad dating back to at least the eleventh century, but in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries there was a lively debate over what Baphomet really meant and stood for. Friedrich Nicolai, a member of the Freemasons and the Illuminati, claimed that Baphomet was a Greek term for baptism by wisdom (baphe metous), but it was the Austrian anti-Masonic activist Joseph Freiherr von Hammer-Purgstall who really sealed the connection between Baphomet and Freemasonry in 1818. Using dubious and sometimes fraudulent artifacts and fanciful literary claims, he connected the Freemasons to the Knights Templar and held that the whole lot of them were the same as the Temple-guardians of the Grail romances, and therefore Gnostic heretics.

You will of course recognize this conspiracy theory; it is the one that Scott Wolter follows two centuries later. I have a feeling that the statue of Baphomet, if it is ever formally installed, will someday have its origins obscured and instead become another data point in the Freemason conspiracy. The idol is, after all, located in Oklahoma, where the so-called Anubis Cave allegedly documents Celts who worshiped Mithras with Egyptian iconography. Surely it all has to be connected!

Speaking of Scott Wolter, I’m sure we all remember the extreme claims he has made for the Freemasons over the past two years:

  • The Freemasons are the modern descendants of the Knights Templar.
  • The Freemasons are privy to the secrets of Mary Magdalene and worship the “sacred feminine.”
  • The Freemasons and Templars guard the heir of Christ in preparation for His government.
  • The Freemasons are working to create a one-world government and secretly run America.
  • The Freemasons planned Washington, D.C. as a giant symbol of cosmic sexual penetration.
  • The Freemasons are connected to the New World Order, which may be planning genocide.

And that doesn’t even touch on his support for Alan Butler, who believes that that Masons are connected to time travelers from the future who went back in time to build the moon.

This makes it all the stranger that Wolter is going to be speaking to a Masonic group next month—and not just any group, the York Rite Masons, the umbrella organization for the Masonic Knights Templar!

On Saturday, June 28:
This afternoon we will have a special guest speaker, Scott Wolter from America Unearthed, forensic geologist and Rhunestone (sic) historian. This night will also be our Grand York Rite Session banquet, Grand awards and presentations.
Can you imagine what Wolter plans to tell them? “You are secretive pagan goddess worshipers who may be in league with a group plotting global genocide.” Or is that only the Scottish Rite Masons? Probably the latter since York Rite requires members of the Masonic Knights Templar to be Christians, while Scottish Rite Masonry does not have a Christian requirement.
108 Comments
. link
5/7/2014 07:59:02 am

Is he going to happily blog on his blog-site about his
address to the Masons? I'm going to sit back, now...

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Steve StC
5/7/2014 02:24:26 pm

It's obviously a slow news week for Jason-and-his-keyboard. SW gave a speech last week at a Masonic lodge. He gave one about a month before that, and another shortly before that. In all, he's spoken to Masonic lodges - I'm guessing - over 75 times.

If you had news that Scott was going to speak at the ceremony in which they dedicate the statue of Baphomet, that might be newsworthy. If Stephen Colbert mentioned SW, that might be newsworthy. But the fact that Scott is doing a speech at a lodge anywhere near the time of this dedication of Baphomet is a sign that you are desperate to flail SW with any scrap of useless opinion you can fantasize up in your obsessive mind.

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Only Me
5/7/2014 02:35:53 pm

"desperate to flail...with any scrap of useless opinion you can fantasize up in your obsessive mind"

Yep, that pretty much sums up your entire comment.

Steve
5/7/2014 03:09:11 pm

I'm rubber you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

Before you, "Only Me", I hadn't seen this technique so consistently deployed since I was in pre-school. Would you mind revealing your age?

Only Me
5/7/2014 03:21:51 pm

Actually, Steve, it's a matter of maturity, something you're sorely lacking. Your comments are childish, snobby, hateful and only prove you bear a grudge against Jason.

Worse still, you lose the argument from the very beginning but keep pushing a point you don't have. Thankfully, even less people give a crap about what you think. You have an awful lot of unwarranted self-importance. Learn2humility.

Steve St C
5/7/2014 05:27:33 pm

Nice deflection, "Only Me." But the point remains, SW speaks at a lot of Masonic lodges, as well as many other venues. With far greater frequency, you invariably leap to Jason-and-his-keyboard's defense. The problem is, you do so in the manor I described above: childishly. (note: you didn't tell us how old you are)

The point remains, Jason-and-his-keyboard are having a slow news week, so (as usual) he turned to his Google Alerts to look for any pathetic scrap to satisfy his compulsion with Scott. The supposed link between the Oklahoma State Capitol Baphomet and Scott is (a) nonexistent, (b) silly, and c) overtly obsessive. I'm being generous. Yet Jason-and-his-keyboard couldn't resist.

You have achieved only one thing with this blog post, Jason-and-his-keyboard: You've shown, once again, how obsessive and non-objective you are regarding SW.

Only Me
5/7/2014 05:58:45 pm

Wrong as usual, Steve. The fact you can't comprehend the article as having two unrelated news items explains why you are suddenly gripped with the phantom insinuation bug.

I don't defend Jason; I choose to confront turd-slingers who use any means to pollute the blog with their nonsense. That such turd-slinging is aimed *at* Jason is coincidental.

My age is irrelevant. It neither strengthens nor weakens the fact I can identify your comments for what they are...bullshit.

Jason will write what he chooses to write and he needs neither your consent nor your approval...or were you expecting to be consulted on the headline first, perhaps asked to vote on it? Don't like it, take your bitching to people who actually want to hear it.

KIF
5/8/2014 01:26:54 am

The Freemasons. Scott Wolter

What's the difference, they're all spurious

Joe
5/8/2014 02:09:52 am

Seriously Steve, I know that you only include yourself when your buddy SW appears in a blog but your response does not make any sense. First in the last couple of days Jason has blogged about several different topics without a mention of your dear friend. The last time he even was mentioned before yesterday was on a blog about a Mormon parody of AE. Also the blog is about two separate events, the first the piece on the Colbert Report and how Jason noticed the error and provided an explanation.

The 2nd about how odd it is that Scott is speaking to a Masonic group. Now you have pointed out that Scott has done this dozens of time. So if this is the first time that Jason has noticed it then it is fairly obvious that he is not stalking SW. So besides being an ass I wonder what your point is.

Jason Colavito link
5/8/2014 02:17:17 am

We should actually thank Steve for pointing our attention to the fact that Wolter frequently speaks to Masonic groups and fails to disclose to his viewers and readers his ongoing conflict of interest. If he takes speaking fees from them, this is doubly troublesome since it is an even bigger conflict of interest that he and H2 are failing to disclose.

Matt Mc
5/8/2014 02:24:56 am

Well I don't know if it is a conflict of interest, Wolter has not expressively said that his Mason theory is a bad thing. I mean he could be in support of Mason/Templars controlling things and just thinks that people should embrace the holy Vagina of the sacred feminine and hopes to bring the lost bloodline of Christ into a leadership role via the Mason/templars.



Matt Mc
5/8/2014 02:29:49 am

More than likely however these appearences just goes to show that Wolter is trying to make some money or up his book sales/viewership. Lets say he makes a small amount of money from these speaking appearances like $100 per appearance (which is low for a paid speaking appearance) by doing 75 of these in recent times that is a cool $7500 dollars.

Not a bad supplement to income. If anything it just leads me to believe more so that Wolter is only into all this because it can generate some extra money while feeding the ego at the same time.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/8/2014 02:39:44 am

Steve St. C --

The "Wolter Obsession" is interestingly interesting, isn't it … ???

*News*Flash* … !!!
"Today Scott Wolter bought a large mocha caramel latte at the Caribou Coffee Shop on his way to work … !!! Stay tuned to these blogs for further late-breaking details .. !!!"

terry the censor
5/8/2014 05:45:30 am

@Rev Phil
> "Today Scott Wolter bought a large mocha caramel latte at the Caribou Coffee Shop..."

...and later claimed the fancy coffee was an honourary PhD.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/8/2014 06:04:20 am

Terry the Censor Deputatus --

Thank you for your contribution ...

Only Me
5/8/2014 09:58:13 am

Agreed, Phil, your Wolter obsession is interesting. He is a *public figure*, so naturally, it is beyond the pale to report on his activities, as opposed to, say, reporting on other public figures, like sports stars, celebrities and politicians.

Taking offense on Scott's behalf has become your pastime; being theatrically offended supposedly signifies your exquisitely refined moral delicacy. You and Scott feel entitled to pass through life without encountering ideas or practices that annoy you.

Steve StC
5/9/2014 12:34:55 am

It certainly is interesting, isn't it Rev. Phil?!!

Scroll down this hate blog and look at the number of comments per subject. Overwhelmingly, the ones which include SW get more comments. Then, when you read them, you see that the subject of SW on Jason-and-his-keyboard's blog is the only thing that seems to energize this crowd of surly teenagers.

I love how Matt (I'm assuming his real name is Matt - you never know here) uses the possibility that SW makes money as a way to damn him. This is a regular sub-theme of Jason-and-his-keyboard, too. Making money somehow soils one's ability to tell the truth. I suspect Stephen Hawking makes money on books and speeches too. Does that make him a filthy liar, too, Matt MC?

Right above this comment, we see "Only Me" with his usual "I'm rubber you're glue" comment.

The news release here is "Only Me" saying I am somehow unable to "comprehend the article as having two unrelated news items…" He actually wrote that. I've seen him pen other comments (only a few, mind you) that were intelligent. That makes this one a purposeful lie. Of course they're related. But that's the kind of drivel that regularly occurs on this hate blog.

Jason-and-his-keyboard, if you also claim these two news items are unrelated, please begin to state that in your blog posts. It would make it all the more transparent when you use the technique to slam SW.

Steve StC
5/9/2014 12:38:21 am

BTW, "Only Me", You and Jason-and-his-keyboard feel entitled to pass through life without encountering ideas or practices that annoy you. Your turn.

Jason Colavito link
5/9/2014 02:50:46 am

Entitled? Your lack of self-awareness boggles the mind. I have a degree in anthropology; the entire purpose of such a program of study is to explore cultures and peoples outside one's comfort zone. The only people who live in a bubble where they brook no challenge are the fringe thinkers who expect acquiescence and homage.

If you exclude comments made by you and Phil, and the replies to trolling by the two of you, comments are roughly even across the blog. A thousand page views from your and Phil do nothing for the overall numbers of unique visitors. Again: Stop trolling.

Only Me
5/9/2014 06:39:12 am

Oh good, it's my turn again. Let me start by saying thank you for the laughs, Steve. It seems you share Scott's affinity for being offended.

Yes, I actually said the article contained two unrelated news items. I felt it was necessary to point out because, in the article, the part about Scott, specifically, begins with, "Speaking of Scott Wolter". That's called a transition, Steve.

I really got a good chuckle from your comment about my intelligence, since it comes from a man who has consistently been unable to answer the most basic and direct questions about the contradictions between his public comments *on this board* and his mission statement on his own website. Nor have you been successful in all of the childish tantrums you've thrown, where you've obsessed over legal language or tried to analyze and profile Jason and my fellow readers. Yeah, only you would consider having your ass handed to you, repeatedly, as a sign of brilliance.

You want to talk about purposeful lies? I've been addressing just such a thing for several days. Joining in just shows you also don't have anything to contribute.

I'll give Scott credit for one thing...he'll be a footnote in history. That you're satisfied with being an asterisk associated with the footnote...I guess I can congratulate you on that, too.

Steve StC
5/9/2014 07:08:26 am

I love when Jason and his acolytes refer to those who openly defend SW as "blog trolls."

You guys are Life Trolls. When America Unearthed is on, you sit there yelling at your TV. You can't go on there and sling insults, so you come to Jason-and-his-keyboard's hate fest to troll the AU show. You're also quite timid little trolls - very few of you troll with your actual names.

Only Me
5/9/2014 08:22:15 am

Yes, stomp your foot and pout some more, Steve. You're infantile rants have made me reconsider why you were so interested in my age. Is it really that lonely in your sandbox? Sorry, your tendency to go full-blown emo at the drop of a hat is disturbing.

I like AU. There's nothing more entertaining than hearing the latest in pseudoscience and seeing which hucksters will appear for their fifteen minutes of shame.

Oh no! I won't use my name, so I'm a scaredy-cat! Awesome analysis, Steve. I haven't seen this technique so consistently deployed since I was in pre-school. You never did answer when you got your degree in psychology or when you became a profiler. Let me guess...it's in the mail?

EP
5/9/2014 02:31:49 pm

@ terry the censor

"...and later claimed the fancy coffee was an honourary PhD."

Nothing helps start the day off in the right foot like a nice honorary PhD first thing in the morning.

KIF
5/7/2014 08:04:00 am

But the entire edifice of Freemasonry rests upon shaky foundations, inspired by the Rosicrucian Manifestos (it was once quite trendy to dispute this connection, but it's there).

There's not much to choose between Scott Wolter and the Freemasons.

The 1738 Freemasonic exposure "Masonry Dissected" by Samuel Pritchard coincided with the exhibitions of the model of the Jerusalem Temple.

Freemasonry itself grew out of the embryo of freedom following the execution of Charles I and the consequent origin and development of Parliament. Francis Dashwood's exploits are another example.



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Clint Knapp
5/7/2014 09:03:42 am

I'd only heard the story of the Satanist group's statue play in the most watered down version possible; on Coast to Coast. George Noory simply called it a "statue of the devil" and the case didn't interest me enough to look into. If it's Baphomet, though, that's a bit different than "the devil".

At least insofar as Levi's image is concerned it's not so much an image of the devil as it is a representation of both sides of the coin. Male and female, light and dark, good and evil, all in balance. But then, I suppose we can't expect any of that to matter when a group calling itself the Church of Satan uses it to exploit a legal loophole created so "good Christians" can have their ten commandments on the lawn of a state building.

To that other bit of crazy I can only predict that if the next morning doesn't bring a newspaper headline reading "Television Host Thrown Out of Masons Dinner" then he'll keep the speech reigned in to an inoffensive topic or two and then start leveling accusations after the fact about their compliance with ongoing cover-ups.

Do we happen to know if the AU crew will be in town for this event? I'd hate to see them camped outside a Masonic Temple just waiting on Wolter to come out and deliver another anti-Masonic rant- this time as an eyewitness!

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KIF
5/7/2014 09:31:28 am

Transcribing "Baphomet" into Hebrew, applying it into the atbash cipher, then it corresponds to "Sophia".

What's needed next is to convert Mary Magdalene into the goddess of knowledge, and then claim that the statues of the Black Madonna are of her and not of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

But I think that's all been done somewhere....

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. link
5/7/2014 10:38:09 pm

Cryptography 101 - The Basics
(lick on arrow for 8 min u-tube)

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 09:23:31 am

LOL …

… and … I suppose now, Scott Wolter's relentless critics, bashers and attackers will accuse him of founding his OWN "Freemason" group, "The Scottish Write(r's) Right Rite" ...

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Only Me
5/7/2014 09:32:05 am

Not this again.

Seriously, Phil, either get your own blog where you can attack everybody until your arthritic hands seize up, or take it to the Forum. I'm sure Jason will be gracious enough to make a new category just for you...maybe call it "The World According to Phil".

He may have amended the comments policy, but it falls to us to police ourselves. We have an obligation and responsibility to do so, since we are all just visitors. Since you're one of the three most-complained about individuals that forced the policy change, you could at least conduct yourself within the limits of that policy.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 09:53:33 am

This entire blog spot is an attack on my personal friend and professional colleague, Scott Wolter …

It would be UNETHICAL if I did NOT rise up to defend him …

Let me hasten to add that I am NOT a "Freemason," nor as far as I'm aware, is Scott Wolter ...

KIF
5/7/2014 10:00:29 am

Scott Wolter cannot be defended
He's got to face up to his deluded beliefs in rubbish

Only Me
5/7/2014 10:09:35 am

Yes, of course, because Scott, naturally, is involved with Ancient Aliens, multiple book reviews and updates to Jason's latest book releases. Not to mention the myriad other topics, distinctly not Wolter related, that Jason writes about.

Now get the hell over yourself and stop pretending like you are innocent.

terry the censor
5/7/2014 03:35:48 pm

@Rev. Phil Gotsch

Factual reporting on the work and opinions of Wolter is an attack?

Only in your lying mind.

(We are way beyond disagreement -- you type falsehoods with nearly every comment. Turn in your collar, rev.)

KIF
5/7/2014 09:34:08 am

But the Gospel according to Saint Scott Wolter is infallible - he's got the proof of the Kensington Rune Stone on his side - In the beginning was the Kensington Rune Stone - so decree the Watchers, the Guardians of the Destiny of Mankind.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
5/7/2014 10:13:04 am

Only Me -

My new policy is ignore his very existence. He can cast himself as the lonely defender of Truth all he wants, crying into the wind, but I'm not going to contribute in the least. About all there is left to say to him is what Cromwell said to the Rump Parliament.

Commentary on the Blog -

That Wolter is speaking to a Masonic gathering isn't so surprising; what he's known for isn't his more extreme fringe declarations, but being the latest "Real Indiana Jones." I suspect that Masonic gatherings in Louisiana in the late '70s, early '80s would gladly have had David Duke before his positions became public embarrassments to them. So too with the Masons. TV personality who speaks on Mason-tangential topics comes to town? Why certainly, snap him up! From Wolter's side, there are two attractants that he is unlikely to ignore: legitimacy (especially in the fringier circles he appears to be joining) from airing his position at a Masonic gathering, and, of course, an appearance fee.

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KIF
5/7/2014 10:25:53 am

Scott Wolter cannot be ignored because he lifts other people's rubbish and delusional fantasies

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J.A. Dickey
5/7/2014 09:54:09 pm

I do admit I could see Scott Wolter taking the role
of Indiana Jones away from poor Harrison Ford if he
wants to retire, and yes -- the hoary 1930s are often
only vaguely modern science, as the wise erudite few
are trying to be 100% professional. Yes --- P.T. Barnum
was quite a showman in his day, as is A.U's S.W. now...

. link
5/7/2014 10:27:23 pm

Do enjoy!!! the internet is a Turing test!
the Purple & Enigma WW2 Axis codes
broken in part becuz of Turing's Bombe.
Am jumping in be4 all 3rd Reich opines.
to avoid ALLIED propaganda, avoid arrow.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 10:23:18 am

And … Unless Jason Colavito's blog spot had made a public announcement, almost certainly NONE of the visitors to this blog would have heard about the upcoming presentation to The Masons …

So … *what*ever* …

Unwittingly, Jason has become an unpaid PUBLICIST for Scott Wolter … !!! Who would have thought … ???

(Jason … Are you by any chance "working both sides of the street," as a "double agent," PRETENDING to despise Scott Wolter and all that he says and does, but *secretly* increasing his public profile … ??? Interesting …)

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KIF
5/7/2014 10:27:07 am

That makes James Randi a publicist for Uri Geller.
Good thinking, Batman

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 10:42:42 am

There is a certain school of thought, that, "ANY 'publicity' is GOOD publicity …" (no matter WHO provides it, however unintentionally or half wittingly …)

So … Yes … "Backs" get "scratched" sometimes by unlikely partners ...

Clint Knapp
5/7/2014 10:53:12 am

But, Phil, that would mean that all the Nazi-innuendo you imagined and railed against so vehemently a few posts back would also be good press. Contradictions atop contradictions.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 02:30:58 pm

Well, see … The publicity for my friend, Scott Wolter just keeps on keeping on coming …

He is relentlessly unfairly attacked and maligned … I defend him … The attacks continue … I defend him … etc. …

See … ???

Clint Knapp
5/7/2014 05:46:42 pm

I do see, Phil. I see very clearly that none of this is really about Scott Wolter at all. It's about Phil Gotsch. It always has been.

It's about Phil getting some attention and being seen as the "friend and professional colleague" of Scott Wolter for "25+ years". Wonder why. Got an appearance coming up on next season of AU? Maybe a book about the Bloodline conspiracy in America coming up, co-authored by Scott Wolter and lent your "credibility" as a preacher behind it? Or are you just petty enough that you need the attention?

Don't try to pretend this is about Wolter anymore, Phil. It's not. If it was you wouldn't feel the need to drag your crusade into topics that don't have anything to do with Wolter- you'd stick to posts like this one that actually mention his name.

[jad] link
5/7/2014 10:03:21 pm

This thread has been very GONZO f-REE in honor of
Johnny Depp's movie FALILV that popularized a neat
quasi-novella travel book set in both Las Vegas and
the writer's WILD TURKEY driven innerspace. Hi Phil!
I see you're happy opining once more. I swear I'm again
wondering if you are letting thy friend S.W type & hype
away happily on thy interNetz account! Anyway, if you
are, then that to me is way cool. I'm glad the snark is less.
I've discovered that the Website box lets you do active links.

Only Me
5/7/2014 10:55:17 am

"Let's get back to discussing North American history and prehistory, sans insults and innuendoes …"

Since that is the discussion you want, you need to shut up and wait until Jason writes an article where that particular discussion is relevant.

Otherwise, cut the crap.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 02:27:26 pm

"Only Me" --

Why do you bother … ???

Only Me
5/7/2014 02:44:54 pm

Remember when I said it was the obligation and responsibility of the visitors to this blog to police ourselves? Well, if no one stands up to propaganda-prone blowhards, such as yourself, then it reflects poorly on all of us.

I have no personal animosity toward you, but your deplorable behavior is something I've seen over and over again across the Internet. I, for one, will counter your misrepresentations and distortions of fact and word; the damage by caused by the fringe counterculture is bad enough. No one needs your dishonesty to add to it.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 04:58:22 pm

"Only Me" (whoever you are) …

I am in fact a very honest person (one the auxiliary bishops who knows me very well once told me, "Phil, you are TOO honest …") …

So, yes … I HAVE been -- in fact, really and honestly truly -- a personal friend and professional colleague of Scott Wolter for 25+ years … and so … when his character is attacked or he is unfairly maligned, I rise to defend him …

That seems GREATLY to bother his snarky bashers … but that is THEIR problem, not mine ...

Only Me
5/7/2014 05:42:48 pm

I'm sure you're a great guy, Phil. I don't question your friendship with Scott--but--it is your recent behavior that is unacceptable. You have consistently attacked and unfairly maligned Jason, because you believe he has some personal interest in tearing Scott down.

The problem, since all this began, is that your allegations are groundless. You have twisted Jason's words around to say something that wasn't said. You've brought his heritage into the fray, accused him of a vendetta, read into his articles innuendo that doesn't exist, charged him with conspiracy due to documentation others have sent him (that he has purposefully kept under wraps, since they have nothing to do with what he is investigating), accused him of prejudice and blackmail, questioned his motives and said he is engaged in character assassination. When others have tried to reason with you, you've ignored or gotten snotty with them and you won't brook any conversation concerning Scott; in your mind, conversation about him on any matter is tantamount to the Huns marching toward Constantinople.

What bothers the rest of us, is the repeated stock responses and continued disruption of blog posts, even those that have nothing to do with Scott, just like this one. You were the one that accused everyone else of the intent to claim Scott was founding his own Freemason group. This is a continuation of the false allegations you've thrown around for days. Yet, when you do this, it's in Scott's defense. You're practicing the same tactics you say Jason and everybody else is committing. Is the fact you're doing it somehow right, when it's wrong for Jason and others to do it, as you claim? Two wrongs don't make a right, remember?

This has all been a ruse and it stinks. You can't argue from a position of moral authority when you're acting immorally. Stop with the deception. It's destroying your credibility, not Jason's.

Only Me
5/7/2014 06:03:26 pm

Correction: "just like this one" should read "unlike this one".

)jad) link
5/7/2014 10:51:12 pm

http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2014/05/neanderthal-in-america-data-from.html

Austin Whittall's blog has a new topic thread on a very technical
statistical analysis of a professional paper on DNA test data and
what it implies about migratory routes into North & South America.
If Austin Whittall is correct, we'd have to rewrite textbooks, i feel...

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/8/2014 05:57:09 am

"Only Me" (whoever you are) …

When the RELENTLESS unfair gossipy snarky sniping at my friend and colleague STOPS … then I will no longer feel any need to post here ...

Fr. Jack Ashcraft link
5/7/2014 10:34:00 am

Maybe 4 or 5 years ago I interviewed Wolter. At that time we had a phone conversation off the air wherein he asked me "Are you a brother?", referring to the Masonic Lodge. I assumed by the way he referred to me as a possible "brother" that he was a Freemason. I can't say he is for certain. I'm not a Freemason, just for the record. Not even a Templar. lol

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Dave Lewis
5/7/2014 02:42:16 pm

I looked over your web page. As a Byzantine Catholic priest are you associated with the Byzantine Catholic Church in America? Just curious.

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[jad] link
5/7/2014 10:17:44 pm

seriously... i had indeed thought he was a sincere
Huckabee votin' Protestant in the mode of the late
William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska.I'm now learning
something new. The internet is a Turing Test. I'm cutting
him some slack for the boldness of his views as I am
wondering if he often speaks to S.W about his many
excursions here. odds are he is not being paid to be an
onsite gadfly, its a hobby. i've noticed more paragraphs
an' less one line hippie zingers. I'm talkin' in paragraphs 2!
y'all did open the door for the good REV to go into his
TRUE FAITH in order to further explain himself to us all.

Fr. Jack Ashcraft link
5/8/2014 09:42:30 am

Mr. Lewis,
Under normal conditions I would be. However, as a sedevacantist I am more aligned with Ukranian Byzantine Patriarch Elias.

Dave Lewis
5/8/2014 10:48:49 am

Father Jack: Thanks for the info! I'm interested in all things associated with religion. I appreciate that lots of folks disagree with the RCC since Vatican II. Do you mind if I ask who ordained you?

tubby
5/7/2014 11:06:45 am

It's great how Satanists planning to erect a statue of Baphomet anywhere sounds like a terrible comic book villain plot. They're also planning to save the molds so they can cast new statues in the event someone decides to do something destructive to the first one.

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KIF
5/7/2014 12:22:10 pm

A flippant attitude towards something that is anything but comical. People take this sort of thing seriously. You should meet them,

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tubby
5/8/2014 07:34:30 am

Would it be any worse if Scientologists had applied and were donating something? Is the proposed statue of Hanuman any better? They opened to doors to it by placing a sectarian monument, and now they're going to wiggle.

Snarkerella
5/7/2014 01:06:01 pm

I think that the reason Jason permits trolls like unrev Phil and little Stevie St Clair to post here is based on the "give him enough rope and he'll hang himself" principle. Both of those trolls look really pathetic!

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 02:01:08 pm

I agree that the relentless snarky attacks on Scott Wolter ARE "pathetic," indeed …

But … everybody needs a "hobby" … I guess ...

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William
5/7/2014 02:13:34 pm

Does Scott Wolter have something on you Phil? Aside from the fact your statements are repetitive and irrelevant to the flow of discourse, your continued thread hijacking is suspicious. Defending a friend is one thing, but seriously, you have done it obsessively the last few days. I can only imagine two reasons as a behavior specialist: 1. Your posts on this blog are some sort of attention-seeking thing, or 2. You have a vested interest in making sure Wolter's fall from credibility is either slow or stopped.

Why do you care so much about what people say on this blog anyway. You should try following #americaunearthed on twitter while that silly show is on and watch people discredit him there in real-time.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 02:18:51 pm

LOL …

My behavior in these blogs has been entirely consistent and adult …

Scott Wolter is my personal friend and professional colleague for 25+ years … So, when his character is attacked or his work is unfairly maligned or distorted … I respond appropriately …

Why is that a problem for you … ???

William
5/7/2014 02:36:04 pm

Phil, there is no problem on my end. Your behavior in no way affects my life positively or negatively. I was just looking for an explanation as to why your alleged trolling has increased so dramatically over the last few days.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/7/2014 03:07:30 pm

I simply respond appropriately when my friend and colleague is trashed, attacked, misrepresented …

That ISN'T "trolling" … It is "integrity" and "honor" ...

???? link
5/7/2014 11:12:12 pm

Rev... you already have a hobby!!! Are you one
of the members here? I see SW has his talks.
https://www.facebook.com/MNMineralclub !!!

. link
5/7/2014 11:24:43 pm

the above blog archive thread has both
an intelligent discussion and a short
comment by an obvious troll. GoTo
---"do it" --- 03/26/2013 7:21am ----
The same troll possibly has 200 to 1000
postings + has returned often as a hydra.

. link
5/7/2014 11:32:00 pm

I am not blaming either REV PHIL or JASON for how
OPEN the Weebly system is. none of us have to do
an ascii string as a password to opine here. if we keep
to near genius level postings and/or an honor code we
can keep mini*flame*wars from feeling like a contagion.

. link
5/7/2014 11:42:22 pm

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2013/12/historian-ponders-modern-fascination-with-knights-templar-mysterious-templar-fresco.html

Joe
5/8/2014 02:04:14 am

Rev. Phil,

I do not think the rest of us truly understand your point. Where in this article is Scott actually attacked? As I read it Jason pointed out the different accusations that Scott has made against the Freemasons and in a very peculiar move is now speaking at one of their official events. I see no attack in just presenting this information. So instead of repeating your long term friendship please show us all where you see "the attack".

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/8/2014 02:56:20 am

William --

"It's perfectly SIMPLE … !!!"
-- Basil Fawlty

I will stop posting in defense of my friend and colleague when the relentless attacks cease … duh ...

KIF
5/8/2014 03:19:37 am

Will your friend become a rational researcher and start putting things to the critical test, that's the issue

Pacal
5/7/2014 02:02:24 pm

"...Baphomet is today widely believed to be a corruption of the name Muhammad, possibly connected to Templar training that involved practicing denying Christ and acknowledging Muhammad in preparation for doing battle in the Holy Land;.."

Jason that isn't quite clear. The idea that the Templars denied Christianity etc., worshipped the Devil is totally bogus, like most of the nonsense procured by Torture and coercion when the Templars were suppressed.

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Jason Colavito link
5/7/2014 02:28:22 pm

No reputable scholars believe the Templars actually worshiped the Devil, but I've read in several places that the Templar initiation may have involved a loyalty test that involved denying Christ, but as you note upon further examination I see that this is no longer supported by the most recent studies. I will amend the text accordingly.

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KIF
5/8/2014 01:34:52 am

"Templar initiation may have involved a loyalty test that involved denying Christ,"

These "confessions" were given under torture and detracted afterwards. Read the books by Peter Partner, Malcolm Barber, Helen Nicholson

Terry Melanson link
5/7/2014 03:55:45 pm

It doesn't surprise me that Wolter is welcomed by the Masons. The latter have been the premiere promoters of alternative history since the 18th century and have been telling myths about themselves as a continuation of a long and unbroken esoteric tradition that extends back to the ancient world. Wolter is right up their alley.

For instance, I have the transcripts of the Philalethes conference in Paris (1785 and 87). The participants are drawn from all across Europe and of every rite practiced. The question and answer sessions reveal that they all believed that they were the holders of the ancient secrets of various groups, including: the Gnostics, the ancient philosophers and the secret schools of wisdom, the Cabbalists, the Essenes, the Templars, the Egyptian mysteries of Isis, Gymnosophists, the Druids, and on and on and on. Then as now, they hardly needed "conspiracy theorists" to perpetuated myths about themselves. They did fine all by themselves.

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KIF
5/8/2014 01:36:47 am

Scott Wolter and the Freemasons are equally spurious

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/8/2014 01:09:47 pm

TODAY'S "Wolter Watch" Report:

Being Scott Wolter's personal friend and professional colleague (NOT his secretary or manager or publicist), I don't KNOW with certainty, but I have VERY good Reason to expect that Scott Wolter had breakfast, lunch, and supper TODAY ...

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Only Me
5/8/2014 01:57:24 pm

NEWS ALERT:

SCOTT WOLTER TAKES DUMP!
Complains of quality of toilet paper

According to a source close to Wolter, "The issue is the bathroom tissue. This is clearly an attempt to *smear* the character of my friend and colleague of 25+ years. Obviously, toilet paper manufacturers are hidebound to dogma that must be overturned. They feel threatened by Scott's research proving Templar symbols are present in the folds of their most popular 3-ply brands. I hope such efforts to suppress the truth are eventually *wiped* out. Let's discuss the facts, as the history of toilet paper is interesting. Innuendo about mass consumption of Oreos and gastric dysfunction
have no place in the discussion."

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. link
5/8/2014 02:00:10 pm

--- and another thrilling 13 episode season of America Unearthed
looms on the horizon as we speak, with more revelations to come!

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William
5/8/2014 04:06:39 pm

Phil, this comment is not a defense of Wolter. In this case you are no doubt attention-seeking by proactively trying to get someone to bite. This type of behavior is known as trolling on Internet discussion threads/forums. You can no longer espouse chivalrous intentions as your sole reason for posting.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/9/2014 02:56:37 am

If I suddenly went*silent here, the relentless hashing and trashing of All Things Scott Wolter would still go forward, yes … ???

But, by all means … If you find my postings distracting and/or unworthy, then just ignore them … as YOU choose ...

MPE
5/9/2014 12:37:22 am

Reverend Phil you state you and Scott are colleagues. What are/did you two work together on?

On a personal note Im shock some one of your position would act/speak like you do. Show your behavior to your Bishop, see what he thinks

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/9/2014 02:54:08 am

Defending a friend is a positive act, of which any reasonable person will approve ...

MPE
5/9/2014 04:34:41 am

Reverend you said SW was a colleague, how so? What is it your both brothers and members of the Minnesota Rock & Gem Club?

MPE
5/9/2014 05:11:48 am

I decided to use my key board and best I can figure you were a Reverend and now you dont have a Church.....what happened? Probably making that big History Channel $ now.

Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/9/2014 05:31:14 am

MPE (whoever you are) …

Until and unless a priest is "defrocked," the sacrament of ordination confers an indelible mark … ("according to the Order of Melchizedek") …

So what … ??? "Friendship," OTOH, is chosen and maintained deliberately … What do you not understand about being loyal to a personal friend / professional colleague … ???

The fact hat I do NOT enthusiastically join in the bashing and piling on seems to be a problem for you … But, no … I have never been a fan of a lynch mob mentality ...

MPE
5/9/2014 12:14:37 am

I all ways bought the baphomet = Sophia theory.

Ahh the trials and tribulations of our buddy SW

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MattE
5/9/2014 06:19:49 am

If SW is your friend or parishioner thats your business. However you keep calling him a "colleague" so what business/research are you two involved in? Being less than honest about your relationship is very unbecoming of Clergy, cant imagine your Management approves.

I have both Scotts books, watch all his tv's shows, am a Brother what more do you want?

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/9/2014 07:08:14 am

LOL …

No … Assuredly, Scott Wolter is not my "congregant" ...

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Hmmm
5/9/2014 07:11:08 am

Rev. Gotsch, for anybody interested:

http://www.splcmn.org/dec22

folks can always ask his bishop what he thinks of his behaviour here. :P

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An Over-Educated Grunt
5/9/2014 07:32:26 am

Let me be clear.

I do not like or respect Phil Gotsch. I've said before that I think he's a mealy-mouthed hypocrite who is quite willing to come around here and act the loyal friend, but when anyone else suggests that Scott Wolter is less than a saint, they conveniently get a pass, and I consider his defense of his friend, without ever once addressing either the contradictions between his own beliefs and his friend's, the professional damage that Wolter does, nor the very fact that his friend's own words and deeds are what starts the "attacks," to be nothing short of idiotic. I consider Phil Gotsch to be incapable of self-examination, so wrapped in smugness that any attempt at dialogue with him reminds me of my grandfather's rule never to argue with a fool, because they'll drag you to their level and beat you on experience.

In other words, if Phil Gotsch were on fire, I wouldn't even piss on him, it'd be "Nosce te ipsum."

Having said ALL of that... even the slightest suggestion that anyone here should go running to ruin his outside life shows that, however worthless I find him, you are worth less.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/9/2014 07:54:25 am

"Over Educated Grunt" …

Well … huh ...

Terry link
5/9/2014 07:39:07 am

Rev. Phil Gotsch is Scott himself. No one puts in such time unless they are the person who is maligned. If not, Gotsch should check himself out and face up to what he feels about Scott. Ya, I suggested it it ... shoot me for it. It's not natural. And if it's not Scott himself he should be alarmed at the situation and distance himself accordingly. End of story.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/9/2014 07:55:07 am

Terry …

Nope ...

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Steve StC
5/9/2014 04:20:56 pm

"Terry" wrote, "No one puts in such time unless they are the person who is maligned."

So, Terry, if I follow your logic, then Jason "is Scott himself." He certainly spends an incredible amount of time focusing on Scott.

"Jason should check himself out and face up to what he feels about Scott. Ya, I suggested it it ... shoot me for it. It's not natural."

Others have suggested that Jason has an unnatural fixation on Scott. Maybe you're right, Terry.

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Only Me
5/9/2014 04:27:49 pm

According Terry's logic, you could be Scott, too, Steve.

By the by, anyone focusing on Jason, as you do, also suffers from an unnatural fixation.

Steve StC
5/9/2014 04:33:34 pm

Maybe you haven't noticed - 99% of my focus when here is not on Jason, but rather on the thugs like you, "Only Me", who hang out slobbering to defend every word Jason-and-his-keyboard post, no matter how banal.

Only Me
5/9/2014 05:22:33 pm

Oh please, Steve. 99% of your focus is sucking up to Scott.

Thug? Ha! How cute. Yes, yes, I'm just so mean. And you are still stupid. I don't defend Jason, but I already explained that to you.

Oh, I'll take banal over the asinine commentary of an allegedly grown man in the middle of a Chris Crocker meltdown. However, I am quite delighted at the performance of someone who must imagine themselves as Conan cutting down the savage hordes...but who is, actually, Falstaff waving a bubble wand.

Fr. Jack Ashcraft link
5/9/2014 09:01:29 am

Rev. Gotsch,
Your friendship with Mr. Wolter notwithstanding, how is it you seemingly defend his theories as well as his person? Nothing in his claims is edifying, Biblically sound, or speaks to faith (unless of course we count faith in his opinions). So I ask sincerely and without any animosity, how can you defend these things as they are absolutely opposed to Christianity. Wolter doesn't need defending as much as he needs the Gospel. Of course, I don't know that you haven't attempted to share the Gospel with him, but I'm left to wonder whether you do so with the same fervor you come here and defend indefensible propaganda he promotes, as well as his person. If I've misunderstood your position then I apologize ahead of time.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/9/2014 09:44:15 am

I do NOT defend his "theories" … That is for him to do …

( I DO, however, agree with his work demonstrating the authenticity of the Kensington Rune Stone) …

And I DO indeed consistently rise to defend my friend / colleague whenever HE is attacked, mocked, belittled ...

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Fr, Jack Ashcraft
5/9/2014 11:53:43 am

Rev. Gotsch,
Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding. I assume you've tried to share the gospel with him as well. In what sense is he a colleague? Certainly not sacerdotally. Are you in the field of geology as well? Or are you perhaps a Freemason?

I appreciate your patience with my query. I have no reason to attack your friend, nor have I. I disagree with him profoundly and find his claims to be dubious, but that doesn't translate to personal insult.

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
5/9/2014 02:29:36 pm

Fr. … Blessings(+) to you and upon your ministry … !!!

Scott Wolter and I have worked together for 25+ years on a variety of earth science educational projects …

No … I am not a Freemason ...

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EP
5/9/2014 02:11:54 pm

While I'm enjoying the antics of the good Reverend as much as the next guy, I'd like to talk about something other than his defense of his friend and colleague despite the latter's questionable engagement with the Neo-Nazis.

I haven't been following the "Holy bloodline" shenanigans as much as Jason, but... like... what are these people *trying* to accomplish?

Let's say, per impossibile, that we find direct descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Let's say that some of them even came to America in pre-Columbian times. Okay, now what? There would almost certainly be thousands (if not millions) of direct descendants of Jesus all over the world, especially if his family belonged to European nobility. What would make the American (or any other) branch of his family special? Judaic or feudal European succession and inheritance laws?

To anyone's knowledge, has this problem ever been addressed?

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Krystal
4/12/2015 10:06:47 pm

lol... the nerve of some people. I never seen Scott Wolter on AU with cheerleaders.
Glad I read your blog I now know one exist

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Hiram
4/6/2016 11:14:43 am

Scott Wolter or I should say Bro. Scott Wolter is a freemason he was raised at a Lodge in MN a year ago.

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