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Scott Wolter: We Have Jesus' DNA, and the Sinclair Family Are Part of a Jesus-Venus Conspiracy

7/1/2014

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This past weekend, America Unearthed host Scott F. Wolter appeared on the Secret Teachings radio show to promote his book, Akhenaten to the Founding Fathers. The interview was recorded before the recently published claim by Everett Brown that he had carved the runic inscription on the Narragansett Rune Stone, so unfortunately the interview doesn’t include any reaction from the man who once asserted that the rune stone was the lynchpin piece of proof that the Knights Templar visited America in the Middle Ages. Instead, we got more of the usual mix of conspiracy theories, anti-academic outrage, and self-aggrandizement. “The Da Vinci Code is true!” Wolter proclaimed. “Jesus’ body rising to heaven makes no sense.”
The host begins by asking Wolter to elaborate on his line from Akhenaten in which he writes, “So just what is going on with the academics anyway? Isn’t it obvious by now that people prior to Columbus visited the Americas? And for millennia? Why can’t historians, anthropologists, archaeologists, linguists, and other disciplines see the obvious voluminous evidence of this? As maddening as this is, one has to fight the urge simply to dismiss the nay-sayers.” The surprising thing is not the question but Wolter’s reaction to being confronted with his own intemperate language. He backtracks. He hems and haws and says that there are “many reasons” academics don’t agree with him, some legitimate; and he then quickly switches the subject to the Kensington Rune Stone. He delivers talking points about his testimony in court, and he summarize his usual lines about the Kensington Rune Stone, all of which are painfully familiar to most readers of this post. In this version, he adds that scholars who studied the runes on the stone concluded that they don’t match known inscriptions from Scandinavia in orthography or grammar, but Wolter now calls that evidence of its authenticity, for (a) it is a “unique, coded document” and (b) a hoax would have conformed more closely to known models.

The host notices that Wolter has ducked the question and hasn’t actually explained his own words, and he asks Wolter again to discuss his views on diffusionism. Wolter again falsely asserts that there is a “paradigm” that Columbus was the first European to reach America, which to my knowledge was espoused by Washington Irving in the early 1800s. Since then, hardly a scholar has denied that the Vikings reached North America around 1000 CE, a fact so well known that it appeared in early twentieth century schoolbooks, of which I own an example. Wolter, however, feels that there are “rules” that prevent academics from acknowledging pre-Columbian voyages. That these rules are the rules of evidence not ideology does not cross his mind.

The host next asserts—bizarrely—that Christopher Columbus was a member of the Knights Templar, nearly 200 years after the order was suppressed! Wolter agrees, and the two men disparage the character of Columbus, accusing him of perfidy in falsely claiming to have been the first man to see land. They believe he stole credit from his subordinate in order to claim a pension from the Spanish crown. Columbus did indeed claim the 10,000 maravedis pension upon his return to Spain, but compared to the wealth he earned elsewhere, it would seem that greed was not the real issue. In fact, in 1505 he pressed suit with King Ferdinand to have reinstated his two percent claim on all profits from the Spanish colonies in the Indies for being the commander who claimed it for Spain and governed it as viceroy. Columbus did not want anyone other than himself to be given the credit for discovering a transoceanic route to what he believed was Asia, and therefore behaved in a dishonorable way, but a way that belies the fact that he was not as Wolter asserts privy to secret Templar routes to America. If he really had high quality maps to America, he would have known when to be on deck to see land.

In response, one of the new claims Wolter makes is that the Knights Templar were also present in Central and South America, presumably as the “white gods” of legend. He claims they mined silver to “mint” in Europe, which would be interesting since the Templars were not sovereign and were not able to mint their own coinage.

Wolter claims that Native Americans and the Templars share a “similar ideology,” which apparently did not extend to coinage, the alphabet, crops, or any of the other markers of culture one would expect to cross on (non-existent) Templar ships. He says that the Templars had commerce with the New World for “at least two thousand years or longer,” which is amazing since the Templars were only founded in 1119. He must be referring to those mysterious “proto-Templars” he’s always going on about, the ones who forge lead crosses in Arizona but otherwise have left not a trace in history, and brought nothing back to Europe either.

Wolter claim that Columbus’s wife, Filipa Moniz Perestrelo, was the daughter of a grand master of a Templar successor group, the Knights of Christ. Her father, Bartolomeu Perestrelo, was an Italian who moved to Portugal and became a Knight of the Order of St. James. A century earlier, Henry the Navigator had been master of both the Order of St. James and the Templar successor group, the Knights of Christ. This seems to be the origin point for unsupported fringe claims made by Baigent and Leigh (of Holy Blood, Holy Grail fame) that Perestrelo was a master of the Knights of Christ. Wolter, of course, simply takes the fringe version at face value. This is slightly better, however, than in Akhenaten, where Wolter falsely claimed that Columbus married into the Sinclair family. Wolters says that “historians wouldn’t have that information” about Columbus’s Templar connections, but Wolter himself does. “It’s too much for them,” he says, especially the “fact” that Columbus sailed to Nova Scotia, particularly Oak Island, during the 30-day gap in the historical record of his 1477 trip to Iceland. No one knows for sure whether Columbus actually traveled to Iceland that year (it might have been a boast), but Wolter is happy to extend to the trip to Oak Island due to the alleged “Sinclair” connection (cf. the Zeno narrative as well) and the Holy Bloodline.

Wolter next claims that the Templar “cross of Lorraine” appears on the Bat Creek Stone, and that the Templars were “blood brothers” with the Algonquin in order to impregnate Native women with Jesus blood: “They put it in the Natives intentionally,” he said.  

After this the host and Wolter try discussing the Holy Bloodline, and Wolter says that the “people who found the Talpiot tomb” have made new discoveries about the bloodline of Jesus “that I can’t talk about” because “Roman Catholic interests” are trying to suppress the information. It’s all so confusing. Wolter also says that he’s working with “very closely” with the Masonic Knights Templar, whom he views as a Templar successor group. The heroes and villains switch sides seemingly at will: Was Columbus a villain for lying and deceiving, or a hero for preserving Jesus blood? Why can Wolter talk in secret with the Masonic Templars but somehow a conspiracy of Catholics is out to get him? So, is this bloodline good or bad? Sometimes there’s a secret family that Wolter says “rules the world” as a freedom-crushing dictatorship but other times the evil Papists are threatening to destroy the beautiful, noble Jesus-spawn. I can’t follow it.

“We have the DNA,” Wolter says, of the man “who’s buried in the box labeled Jesus, son of Joseph” in the Talpiot Tomb. Yes, Wolter claims to have the actual genome of the Son of God. Presumably, that’s one of the secrets he wasn’t supposed to tell anyone. Wolter then denies Christianity’s central mystery and proclaims that the Resurrection never occurred (as Muslims do today in venerating Jesus as a prophet). Instead, he claims that Jesus was initiated into a spiritual resurrection through Egyptian rituals that became part of Freemasonry.

Returning back to an earlier theme, Wolter repeats his claim that there is a “cover-up” designed to promote a Columbus-first paradigm and deny the truth about the Templar Bloodline clan; but I thought these families controlled the world? Didn’t you just say that? Who is powerful enough to stop the rulers of the world from revealing themselves? No wonder Wolter is interested in serpent myths: His conspiracy is an ouroboros, eating its own tail.

Other points of interest:

  • Wolter now asserts without qualification that Meriwether Lewis was murdered.
  • Wolter asserts that “they” are hiding “something” in the Grand Canyon.
  • Wolter falsely asserts that St. Malachy’s supposed prophecy for the world-historical transformation of “2012” states that Pope Francis would be elected after a papal resignation; you will recall that six months ago I quoted the actual text, which says nothing like what Wolter asserts. Published in 1595 and almost certainly a forgery, the so-called prophecy of the resignation of Benedict XVI reads in toto: “Gloria olivae” (Glory of olives). The next prophecy, of the final pope, says that Peter the Roman (not Francis) will “pasture his sheep.” Wolter has learned nothing about actually reading the texts whose mysteries he claims to have mastered.
  • Wolter believes that Pope Francis is a “Bloodliner” who may be open to revealing the truth about Jesus.
  • Wolter believes that Father Crespi (the South American priest profiled in Erich von Däniken’s Gold of the Gods) had genuine pre-Columbian European artifacts that the Vatican seized and has hid away to prevent people like Wolter from examining them. Mainstream scholars consider the Crespi collection to be modern frauds, while ancient astronaut theorists consider them of extraterrestrial influence.

To finish up, Wolter makes one last outrageous claim before signing off. It’s a bit complicated, so let’s try to explain it. In 1787, the United States was operating under the Articles of Confederation, which did not provide for an executive. A Scottish immigrant and Continental Army general named Arthur St. Clair was elected the seventh President of the United States in Congress Assembled under the Articles of Confederation in that year, officially becoming America’s head of state for a one-year period. During his tenure, delegates called for a revision of the Articles of Confederation, which as we all know turned out to be the U.S. Constitution.

Wolter falsely believes that St. Clair was the first president of the United States. He was neither the first head of state of the independent United States (that was John Hanson in 1781, or the Continental Congress presidents before him, depending on how you count) nor the last president under the Articles of Confederation, Cyrus Griffin, who served in 1788.

Because of his mistaken belief, Wolter feels that the election of Arthur St. Clair in 1787 was designed to give Sinclair (or St. Clair or De Santo Claro) family sovereignty over America in the name of the Jesus Bloodline and demonstrate the Sinclair foundations of the country. He asserts that the Holy Bloodline family is the Sinclair family and that the Sinclair name means “holy shining light,” and that this the planet Venus. Venus in turn represents the goddess that these people secretly worship as the divine feminine. He then renames the Bloodline families the “Venus families,” apparently implying an even larger conspiracy beyond even the Jesus conspiracy.

The Sinclair name comes from the Latin sanctus clarus, meaning “the renowned saint,” not “the holy shining light.” (Clarus is an adjective; lux is the noun meaning “light.”) It refers to the famous medieval hermit known as St. Clare. He gave his name to several places in France, one of which became the seat of the Norman-French family who would become our friendly neighborhood Sinclairs.

92 Comments
lurkster
7/1/2014 08:18:14 am

Eee gads. If Wolter's recent excursions deep into the left field of wingnut theories is any indication of the material that he'll be tapping into when Amercia Unearthed returns to TV, I am dreading the next season something fierce.

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Steve StC
7/10/2014 06:01:14 pm

Jason-and-his-keyboard wrote, "He gave his name to several places in France, one of which became the seat of the Norman-French family who would become our friendly neighborhood Sinclairs."

I swear to God… do you EVER quote your sources?

Do your homework about this family you hate so much and you'll find we're also from Saint-Clair-Sur-l’Elle ----AND---- Saint-Clair-sur-Epte.

Others are Saint-Clair-d’Arcey, near Bernay, Eure, ----AND / OR---- Saint-Clair-sur-les-Monts, near Yvetot, Seine-Maritime.

There were many places of this name, therefore likely several places from which our family came from.

For those among Jason-and-his-keyboard's acolytes who care to learn a little -
http://www.stclairresearch.com/content/Sinclair-Genealogy-France.html

By the way, Jason-and-his-keyboard, the name wasn't "Sinclair" as you spelled it until much later. It was Saint-Clair and other variants. Google us a little more and your keyboard will lead you to the fact that Sinclair was a northern Scottish corruption of Saint-Clair.

What's it take to get a source quoted around here?

Mine -

1. Ardant, Martial, “Dictionnaire général des villes, bourgs, villages et hameaux de la France, et des principales villes des pays étrangers et des colonies, contenant la nomenclature complète des 37,153 communes de France et de leurs écarts, l'indication de leur chef-lieu de canton, du bureau de poste qui seul les dessert, et du nombre de leurs habitants.” 1851

2. Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166 II: Pipe Rolls to `Cartae Baronum' (Vol 2) (Hardcover), by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Boydell Press (April 15, 2002) ISBN-10: 0851158633, ISBN-13: 978-0851158631

3. Loyd, Lewis C. “The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families,” Genealogical Publishing Company, 1951 ISBN 0806306491

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terry the censor
7/10/2014 06:41:37 pm

Steve, your anger is grossly disproportionate the slights you've outlined.

I point this out because it makes you sound like a raving lunatic. And you <i>always<i> sound like you are spewing rabid foam.

I'm not saying you are nuts -- I am not a doctor -- but I have full reading comprehension. Writing as if you have been rubbing gunpowder into your eyes before you read Jason's posts, well, that gains you no sympathy.

I hope you find this constructive.

Harry
7/11/2014 02:32:20 am

Steve,

I know this is difficult for you to do, but try to work out this question logically. The two villages you refer to are in different regions of France - St. Claire-sur-l'Elle is in Normandy and St. Claire-sur-Eptes is in the Ile-de-France - so there is no reason to believe that people from those two villages are related to each other (except in the sense that Europeans in general are related to each other). Therefore, they represent two different families.

Only one of those two families could have produced Henry Sinclair (presumably the one from Normandy, since it was the Normans who moved into England and then Scotland). Jason was obviously referring to that particular family, rather than the other set of Sinclairs, so nothing you said above really disputes the point to which you take offense.

Your accusation that Jason "hates" the St. Clairs/Sinclairs is based solely on the fact that he does not believe that the Norman family descends from Jesus or that one of its members reached Minnesota before Columbus reached the Western Hemisphere. However, no one has produced enough proof to make such doubts unreasonable.

It is clear that your self-image is wrapped up to an unhealthy degree with the presumed achievements of your presumed medieval relative. However, whether or not they ever reached the British Isles, the St. Clairs/Sinclairs from St. Claire-sur-Eptes probably cannot claim any such relationship. Are they now worthy of your disdain? Are all of us who are not related to Henry Sinclair worthy of your disdain?

Sinclair
7/11/2014 02:39:03 am

St.Clair says
There were many places of this name, therefore likely several places from which our family came from.

This quote is of course StClair's last hope of actually trying to belong to this family StClair/Sinclair. Steve's DNA results prove beyond any doubt that he simply has the name StClair and is in no way any part of the history of this family. Yet he goes on and on as if he is, and likes to use terms such as above like OUR FAMILY!

Steve loves the attention he gets from his great web site but rarely tells the real truth about his own research,if you can call it that. Im still waiting to hear about his most recent dna testing with what is called the BigY done by Family Tree DNA . Im sure if the truth was known that there are certainly still no connections to any Sinclair/StClair/Sinkler in Scotland, or anywhere except in the usa to his line born there. From what I can see Steve and his line took the surname Sinkler/StClair in the USA when they got of the boat that MOST likely came in from Ireland.



The Sinclair DNA group has been proven to have 12 or more different types of DNA,not one relating to the other of course. Many people took this name for various reasons,well after anything to do with Normandy or France. Have a garage sale Steve and sell off your StClair/Sinclair trinkets,as they only give you a false impression of actually being a part of the historic family Sinclair.

Sinclair is simply a Surname like many others,but there is a history to a few lines of this name,but a history now smeared by gossip and lies usually put out by people who have no connection to this family.

Doug
2/1/2015 06:31:23 am

Jason its time to widen the blinders and not attack the messengers
anymore especially with modern technology now to look at things with a new eye.

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Nancy
1/25/2020 03:44:26 pm

My son is from a long succession of Donald Sinclair, the Sur names have changed many times over the years. He is related to Perkins (dad's blood father's side) Sheridan, (mothers blood) father's side. My Grandmother is (Baird blood) father's side by Grandmother. It's all so confusing. Yet since I was in my late teens I have been drawn to Northern New England, as if I had some mission. I know how rediculous that sounds, free will and all. Yet I have married twice, alwsys wanted a child. Then this only one came at 42. A Sinclair. His name is Dylan Sinclair Perkins, born 1/06/05.

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Shane Sullivan
7/1/2014 08:34:52 am

If the Templar-Jesus-Venus-Freemason cult was present and active in Central America, you would think the natives wouldn't have associated the planet Venus with the Feathered Serpent, usually described as a male deity.

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Mandalore
7/1/2014 08:41:45 am

I wonder when American Unearthed will jump the shark. It has to be something truly spectacular. But more importantly, does this mean we can clone us a Jesus?

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EP
7/6/2014 11:39:37 am

One cannot jump the shark when one sets out already in its stomach :)

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StrongStyleFiction
7/1/2014 08:45:39 am

I've read a number of books about Templar conspiracy theories. I have a real interest what kind of wild stuff that people come up with. Same with Atlantis. But the one thing that struck me about Templar conspiracies is how often they do a face/heel turn, always in the same book and sometimes in the same chapter.

The chapter will open with the author discussing the Templars as if they were some nefarious, secret cult hellbent on dominating the world. But at the end of the chapter, be sacred guardians of truth and holiness against the evil Vatican.

It's not even a case of ambiguity, or the fact that a person or organization can do both good and bad, sometimes during the same period like a lot of historical figures. No, it's a wild pendulum swinging back and forth but without rhyme or reason. The fact is, the Templars and Atlantis have just become these vague sort-of-concepts designed to be whatever the author needs them to be at the time, consistency be damned, to fuel their wild imaginations and ramblings.

Now people and organizations can be wildly inconsistent at times, but that's never a claim made about the Templars by fringe writers. It's always the historical narrative the writers put forth that is inconsistent, never the historical figures themselves.

Who were the Templars? Who were the Sinclairs? The answer is they are whoever Scott Wolter needs them to be right at that moment. A minute later, they can be something else entirely in order to fit whatever disjointed, rambling mess of a narrative that he dreamed up.

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666
7/1/2014 09:17:11 am

Jesus' DNA

Of course, Jesus never existed - ask the Gnostics, ask Paul, look to any first century Christian documents

Nothing there

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Mandalore
7/1/2014 10:18:38 am

Trolling is a fascinating online behavior.

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666
7/1/2014 10:30:02 am

No trolling involved in mentioning the Gnostics. They were a bonafide Christian Group - at a time when no central organisation to secure and enforce uniformity of belief existed - and everything was in the crucible.

If Jesus existed, his bones should exist somewhere - and like every other human being would have evolved from lower primates in the course of the evolution of the species.

666
7/1/2014 10:36:43 am

I hazard a guess that Scott Wolter embraces a demythologized Jesus Christ, shorn of his supernatural powers

Thou Art Stupid
1/27/2015 03:16:42 pm

I know it's been almost 5 months but your comment was so ridiculous i just had to comment. First off, citing Gnostics. Oh you mean those people that wrote in the 3rd-4th century long after Jesus was gone? Yeah, that's credible, never mind the fact that they were written intentionally in opposition and as a reaction to Christianity by Jewish writers trying to discredit and/or co-opt Jesus. I'm curious how you can cite that those documents as "proof" that Jesus was imaginary but earlier documents, Biblical books, which state differently are somehow fake? You got any way to prove that notion beyond farting your opinion out? Because that ain't evidence. Second, Paul says Jesus never existed...i think you need to reread your Bible, specifically Romans 1. My favorite is the idea that "If Jesus existed there would be bones." Never mind the theology of Christianity that says he ascended which explains one reason bones have never been found but let's focus on just how dumb your idea is: No bones = doesn't exist. So, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Genghis Khan, Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates and others don't exist, according to your theory, because we have never found their bones. Dig yourself out of that hole.

I don't know if you're just dumb or trolling (they are the same in my book) but either way you need to try harder or maybe contact History so you can get a show on after Scott Wolter.

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666
7/1/2014 09:22:25 am

Columbus a Templar

"Christopher Columbus is considered to have been a Templar because of the sails on his ships were the white field and red cross similar to the Templars coat of arms" - Phoenix Powers, The Great Gold Swindle: Yamashita's Gold (2012)

Books by David Hatcher Childress and Frank Sanello argue the same thing

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666
7/1/2014 09:25:34 am

Templar survival

Historical fact, acknowledged by all historians, that the Knights Templar survived and assimilated into the Portuguese Order of Christ.

Look it up.

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Varika
7/2/2014 05:59:51 pm

Actually, the Knights Templar IN PORTUGAL folded into the Knights of Christ. They did other things in other areas. But the Knights Templar ceased to exist when their papal authority was revoked, and those Templars were required to take new oaths swearing to the Knights of Christ and other orders they transferred into, making them no longer Knights Templar. So no, the Knights Templar did not survive. Men who had been Knights Templar survived. It's an important distinction.

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666
7/4/2014 02:42:45 am

That's another way of putting it.
The KT were not proscribed in Portugal

666
7/4/2014 02:52:14 am

The Order of Christ was founded by King Dinis I of Portugal following the dissolution of the KT. Technically it was a continuation of an earlier order, but it was founded to embrace the KT

Dora
2/21/2015 08:19:20 am

As an organization Templars didn't survive, they were assimilated, they survived as people. And they were active in many parts of Europe even before the order was dissolved, there were even Templar comanderies and villages in Poland, Hungary and Bohemia, why to focus on France and Portugal so much? Templars there merged with Teutonic Knights.

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A.D.
7/1/2014 09:48:42 am

Does this templar crap have any connections with racist british israelism?It sure sounds like it.

Was Jeebus an aryan alien from planet x,a "lost" he-boo,or a red haired giant bigfoot?lol they must be doing some hard drugs to come with this crap.

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666
7/1/2014 09:53:26 am

British Israelism is a variation of the Jesus Bloodline

British people are the direct lineal descendants of The Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. The British Monarch is the direct descendant of King David.

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666
7/1/2014 11:42:54 pm

David Davidson (1884-1956) and Herbert Aldersmith (1847-1918) were both believers in British Israel who in 1924 published "The Great Pyramid: Its Divine Message. An original co-ordination of Historical Documents and Archæological Evidences" - they believed the world would end on 29 May, 1928 - later revising this prediction to 20 August, 1953 - whereby members of British Israel would be spared.

On a podcast interview, Henry Lincoln did not mention author or book, but pointed out that a book was published giving the previous prediction that the would would end in 1953. This suggests that Henry Lincoln could have been aware of British Israel and its tenets from the 1950s.



666
7/1/2014 11:53:01 pm

The Great Pyramid: Its Divine Message, PDF

http://casafernandopessoa.cm-lisboa.pt/bdigital/1-36/2/1-36_master/1-36_PDF/1-36_0001_1-162_t24-C-R0150.pdf

spookyparadigm
7/1/2014 10:04:06 am

Between now going anti-mainstream Christian and largely being about trumpeting fantastical European colonization of the Americas, he does seem to be limiting his audience to something closer in that neighborhood.

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666
7/1/2014 10:09:39 am

Nothing new. It's all been done before.

EP
7/1/2014 10:44:17 am

You know what's cool? Akhenaten's mummy has been identified through DNA testing (all but conclusively). Since Wolter believes that Jesus is a descentant of Akhenaten, he needs to make sure that the DNA of Jesus or of any alleged descendant of Jesus could possibly also belong to a descendant of Akhenaten...

But that's, like, hard work and everything...

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666
7/1/2014 10:53:30 am

You will NEVER find the DNA of Jesus - Phantoms of the mind do not have DNA.

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Brent
7/2/2014 06:04:03 am

Well if he's not REAL, how did Scott Wolger & co. GET HIS DNA?!!
HA!!

666
7/2/2014 06:40:22 am

The pseudo-historical flesh-and-blood Jesus is CRUCIAL to Scott Wolter.

Gregor
7/1/2014 11:02:22 am

Sometimes you just have to clap. Not because any of this Wolter / Sinclair / Holy Bloodline insanity is believable, mind you, but because its like a giant game of spiritual and pseudo-intellectual Jenga. How many gaping plot holes and logical fallacies can you endure while keeping the narrative intact! Good for ages 4-12!

I understand the inherent "need" for our reality to make sense...and the desire to feel close to "something greater than oneself". Even the well-known physicist Lawrence Krauss admitted to a kind of crisis of faith when, having studied physics to "see the rules of the universe", he was instead confronted by the realization that *nothing* "had" to be the way it was...that, in effect, the whole of our reality was the result of a game of chance.

Even if one were opposed to "haughty" scientists and academics...something as emotion-based creative writing has the rule that so many fringe theorists abhor: sometimes you have to "murder your darlings".

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666
7/1/2014 11:09:54 am

There's always something there, hidden from plain and open sight, just waiting to be discovered, to validate and tidy everything up

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Phillip
7/1/2014 11:26:30 am

Holy Sh*t! That was a tough post to follow, With that insanity racing through Mr Wolters head all of the time, how does he sleep? My anxiety would cause my heart to explode if I had all of that “secret knowledge” bottled up.
I personally do not believe in a historical Jesus. I have to seriously doubt Anyone could ever prove they have the DNA of Christ.
I guess H2 will give anyone a voice as long as its a “batshitcrazy” voice.
....I miss history based documentary shows

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dlefhcie
7/1/2014 12:00:24 pm

Wow. I suddenly have a lot of respect for the producers of America Unearthed for making Scott Wolter seem semi-credible, because these ideas of his are just so out there. It is interesting to learn that the first President of the United States and his family apparently has sovereignty over all of us. I wonder when the John Hanson bloodline will show up and demand to be named God-Emperors.

Also, why is Scott Wolter recycling the Meriwether Lewis debacle? That was a terrible episode of the show. Scott Wolter would be the worst detective in history. "Oh, there is blood here that didn't come from the suicide victim. Case closed, it is a murder, because there is no way blood could have gotten on this apron at any time before or in the many years since the suicide." Honestly, I doubt anyone could even know for sure if the apron tested on the show was really owned by Meriwether Lewis at all and Wolter wants to make sweeping claims off of a random age-degraded blood sample.

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Only Me
7/1/2014 12:49:38 pm

Since Scott is "investigating" and adopting from whole cloth any idea that supports his Templar/Holy Bloodline story, I'm surprised he hasn't given the Confederate flag his attention, as he did with the flag of Nova Scotia.

Think about it. It has a huge blue X, bordered in white, on an orange background. Contained within are 13 white stars. So, let's break it down, Wolter style.

Orange background: A color associated with the sun setting in the west, North America lies west of France. The blue X could signify the journey across the Atlantic, be two representations of the Talpiot Tomb doorway, or it could be "X marks the spot" showing where the Knights Templar brought the Holy Grail. Of course, the stars represent the Templars themselves, twelve of which surround the thirteenth in the center of the X. Kind of like the twelve crosses surrounding the Cross of Lorraine on the Oreo. That means the center star is the Holy Bloodline! Naturally, North America was the new promised land and the United States of America was born from...thirteen colonies, just as the Freemasons intended.

Oh snap! That means the Civil War was the brainchild of the Templar-Freemasons, to distract everyone from noticing their agents relocating the Holy Grail to a new secret site!

See, it isn't so hard to create an eye roll-worthy piece of schlock. Now, if only I could get H2 to call me....

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BillUSA
7/6/2014 06:02:16 am

Dag, that was pretty good. You might want to consider contacting an agent...

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Dora
2/21/2015 08:26:57 am

Ha ha ha, Only Me, that awesome!!! You should write a parody book!

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Joe
7/1/2014 03:32:22 pm

At this point you can really no longer be surprised by anything that Scott Wolter says

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Hans
7/1/2014 06:07:16 pm

The real question is how many of these bizarre theories does Wolter actually believe and how many does he just put forward knowing it'll mean money and attention from all the various fringe groups. His claims have gotten more fantastic with time so he's either expanded on his ideas or has decided he needs to keep pushing the envelope to keep his name out there. Either is possible.

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666
7/1/2014 09:03:07 pm

Wolter is not unique
He's got lucky with "Holy Grail In America" and Andy Awes
But it will all come to an inevitable end
Nobody takes any more notice of Robert Bauval, Graham Hancock, James Tabor etc anymore - their latest publications no longer make impact

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CFH
7/1/2014 08:34:58 pm

Reverend??

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Harry
7/4/2014 06:14:10 am

I was also wondering if he would show up. He and Steve must be asleep under the bridge. Either that, or this is too much for even him to defend. Perhaps it is the line about "Jesus' body rising to heaven makes no sense."

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EP
7/6/2014 09:58:52 am

I heard that he appears if you say his name three times in front of a mirror.

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CHV
7/2/2014 05:05:31 am

Is it possible that Jesus sired children before his death? Of course.

Is it possible to prove thru DNA testing? No.

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Jason Colavito link
7/2/2014 08:20:17 am

Please note: I have deleted the response thread about rape. It was not appropriate for this discussion.

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666
7/2/2014 08:34:16 am

Did Jesus fry tomatoes 50 times per day

Of course he did, historical evidence is not required

666
7/2/2014 08:35:07 am

Did Jesus fall down 12 times per day

Of course he did, historical evidence is not required

666
7/2/2014 08:36:12 am

Was Jesus Christ into political correctness

His disciples would like to believe that

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Only Me
7/2/2014 07:52:20 pm

Keep trollin', trollin', trollin' (What)
Keep trollin', trollin', trollin'...

Brent
7/2/2014 06:08:19 am

This makes me wonder: has he been this nutty the whole time and just kept it on the DL? Or has he just gotten crazier as more and more people follow him/ his ideas?

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CHV
7/2/2014 12:49:37 pm

Ironically, Wolter has a better chance of obtaining viable DNA from a sasquatch than a verifiable descendant of Jesus. What he wants is genuinely impossible.

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EP
7/4/2014 03:27:29 pm

Yeah, this is like the biggest pet peeve of mine in all of pseudoarcheology! To even make such a claim one needs to be mind-bogglingly ignorant and/or entirely lacking in integrity and respect for the audience.

(OK, it's not *physically* impossible... Say we find the grave of a man who fits the description of Jesus, accompanied by a ton of corroborating evidence - like, Roman or Judean state correspondence describing his exectution and secret burial, or something... AND the DNA of his offspring's biological mother, somehow also confirmed to be such.... AND... AND...)

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Sinclair
7/6/2014 04:56:17 am

Wolter must be hanging with StClair again. These two should be tarred and feathered.

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Raymond Howard
7/6/2014 05:42:05 am


Jason Colavito,

All other criticisms aside that you cite of your deferences with Wolter on many of his claims, not withstanding the remote 'possiblity' of DNA of Yeshua, to Christians, King of Kings, do you personally believe in the resurrection as accepted by Catholics and Protestants alike? I wonder, for there between Barbara Thiering and Peter Cresswell, and actual considerations in the later to both script, physiology, pathology through forensics of all that, there is no way on earth that this "Jesus" 'literally' died and then three days later being 'brain dead' would be made whole to function at all! So, I would submit somewhere on account of Islamic as well quite frankly various Jewish sources, the resurrection as anyone studying the complexity of the 1st Century AD, and nuances of cultures on a cross reference of massive data of allegories and metaphores, the blurbs that Wolter provides as bytes, actually do have merit... most especially to the fact that Jesus at some point did die, if he lived at all considering other points of view including Joseph Flavius: http://www.truthbeknown.com/josephus.htm

Taking this alone into consideration with the Wicked Priest that Barbara Thiering ascribes as the probable person if not composited with others as Jesus, with the rites of various orders connected to Hiram Abiff, whether in fact Hiram ever existed outside cult status amongst Hermetics anymore than Jesus or Moses for that matter. One can only suggest that Wolter while not necessarily right on target, isn't near so far off as you critique in most every case.

As is, far as the Catholic church vs. Masonry, depends where you are amidst six degrees of separation what you can learn and know first hand of any artifacts of books or relics. This alot of times is very true of even one's local history at any archived Heritage Room at one's municipal library. If you can dig the dirt there being what reputations often are in families after a few generations of ensconcement, then one can understand the extent of secrecies and conspiracies that ever come out of it for not being complacent. Henry Ford was correct as Voltaire was ever correct in saying that, "History is a pack of lies we play on the dead." along with, "Indeed, history is nothing more than a tableau of crimes and misfortunes." and finally, "'Tradition usually rests upon something which men did know; history is often the manufacture of the mere liar". - Jefferson Davis

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EP
7/6/2014 10:06:03 am

http://www.timecube.com/

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terry the censor
7/7/2014 08:44:58 am

Barbara Thiering has no credibility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Thiering#Academic_reception

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Raymond Howard
7/11/2014 04:51:47 pm

terry, the censor: Your remark is based on what to Barbar Thiering having no credibility? A Wiki entry with what anyone that has studied the subject knows, that "Christian" scholars need to perpetuate myth, where she actually provides the instance of how much quite frankly of most stories not alone ancient, but contemporary uses main line, subtext, metaphor and allegory? Or how she uses the culture itself of 2000 years ago from comparative writings that are secular to correlate with the Qumran writtings, which parallel in many ways the Gospel accounts of the New Testament as written years after the perported life of this "Jesus", or rather Yeshua, since Jesus is the Anglican derivative?

Amongst other efforts to smirch her, just being a woman seems to be a burr under the saddle for both Christian and Jewish scholars, so that alone in my book validates her all the more, and I'm hardly pro women's lib. Another speicious argument, is that she has accessed the micro-phish of Qumran scroll record, not the actual documents themselves, being how the scrolls are so sequestered except for the very few to actually view them first hand. Heck, of actual scientists whose discoveries have been found valid, upon first reception they were debunked and rivaled. So what else is new?

terry the censor
7/11/2014 06:39:41 pm

> Your remark is based on what to Barbara Thiering having no credibility?

Raymond, Thiering spun wild theories not supported by the texts. The link is not very detailed but it is a start. I read detailed scholarly critiques of her work 20-odd years ago, published by scholars in journals. Unfortunately, I cannot site them, as I no longer have them -- this was in pre-digital days, before we saved eveything onto our hard drives. But rest assured that textual critics showed that when Thiering departed from the consensus, her "interpretations" could not be found in the ancient texts. Start with the Wikipedia citations. If you can get into an academic journal database via your school or public library (as I do these days), you should be able to find several scholarly reviews of Thiering.

I suggest you take my advice. Your response is heavily reliant on a belief in academic conspiracies. That's useless.

BillUSA
7/6/2014 05:53:17 am

Wolter reminds me of a kid cornered in a lie who adds more twists and curves to his lies instead of just admitting that he's been bettered.

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EP
7/6/2014 10:08:09 am

I'd say he's more like Mark Twain's Little Nelly:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Little_Nelly_Tells_a_Story_Out_of_Her_Own_Head

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Sinclair
7/6/2014 06:10:47 am

General Arthur StClair history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_St._Clair

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Franken New York
7/6/2014 07:55:41 am

I would like to add to the idea that, If Columbus really had high quality maps to America, he would have known when to be on deck to see land, to say if he had maps to America he wouldn't have thought he reached India.

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EP
7/6/2014 10:20:55 am

Concering the first point: He'd also need an accurate way of tracking his progress, which he didn't really have.

Concerning the second: Not necessarily. A map showing the east side of the Americas could also be missing the entire Pacific Ocean and East Asia, assuming instead that America and India belong to one continuous landmass. If you don't know about the Pacific (like Columbus) but know that the earth is spherical (like Columbus), then believing you've reached India would make sense.

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Franken New York
7/7/2014 05:46:21 am

I see your point except, since he was given secret knowledge about America he should have known it wasn't India. The premise is the Templars, and almost everyone else, knew it was there, had been trading with and inseminating natives with the Holy Bloodline etc for a long time so they knew the map was not to India and Columbus should have also known
.

EP
7/7/2014 08:10:36 am

Yes, but were they supposed to have known about the Pacific? Or that you cannot get from America to India by land? Is this explicitly specified as part of their "secret knowledge"?

Gerald Sinclair
7/6/2014 05:08:24 pm

History is about probabilities and possibilities just as economic forecasting is, it is just that one looks back and the other looks forward, and both 'disciplines' not being as rigorous as 'science' (although 'climate scientists' are doing their best to destroy that hard won reputation) are open to abuse and manipulation by their adherents, and both have a very high % of 'experts' who do exactly that. Most history books are not even as factual as Historical Novels where at least the authors are honest enough to include the word "Novel'
It is for this reason I, a qualified economist, have spent a decade researching along with a qualified Historian with absolutely no Sinclair connections, the Sinclairs in Scotland and we will publish our first volume based solely on primary source evidence this year and allow that evidence to unfold its own narrative without any help from us.
So maximum of indisputable facts, absolute minimum of opinion, and where there is that you can disagree with the opinion but you will not be able to disagree with the facts it is is based on.

As an example of using this approach the probability that if Jesus existed he had children is very high because as a Jew he could not have attained his position unless he was married and the odds are if he was married there would be children, and that means that somewhere in the world there would be descendants. Problem then is to find them, but unless you believe Jesus was really a son of God and believe in resurrection not resuscitation, one must ask to what end, or in short in a historical context who cares? The Muslims wont!

Similarly the probability that Columbus knew there was a land mass to the West is also pretty high for the simple reason the Scandinavians had already been to one a number of times and maps of the Northern route were available.
It is much more likely that Columbus was not sailing off into the wild blue yonder but was simply looking for a more direct and safer route, it is also much more likely that his financiers put up money for such a venture than for what could have been an absolute wild goose chase. People of any generation do not throw money around without a reason.
In affairs of men and women you can do a lot worse than discard all the myths, stories, exalted language and "Noble Motives' and simply 'follow the money trail' and all those associated constant human attributes like greed, power, lust and social image that go with it.
Succinctly summed up in pragmatic Australian fashion by the line "in the race of life, always back self interest, at least you know it is trying!" which was advice given to young aspiring politician when Sir William McKell was Governor of NSW in 1941 -1947.

And lastly for this exercise the probability Prince Henry Sinclair (no problem with that title by the way he was a Norwegian Jarl of Norway's most important and strictly heritable Jarldom, not a Scottish Earl with an Earldom subject to the whims of Kings and Queens, and entitled to be known as Prince under Norwegian law) sailed to America is very low simply because primary source evidence is virtually non existent, however the possibility he did is actually quite high as he had access to the Scandinavian maps, had the ships, had the seafaring ability and had the money.
So proponents have to come up with evidence, but equally critics have to account for his whereabouts for all of the time he was Jarl to conclusively prove he never had the time to make the journey.
Until one side or the other comes up with primary source evidence, it is an absolutely pointless subject for those interested in facts as opposed to 'beliefs' to debate.

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EP
7/6/2014 05:18:06 pm

Mr. Sinclair, I'm sure everyone here would love to hear more about your and your Historian friend's qualifications.

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Steve StC
7/10/2014 05:31:30 pm

Ah yes,

The requirement to measure the length of each other's penis by the number of initials after one's name.

You first, EP.

EP
7/11/2014 05:37:27 am

I think the post to which you think you responded says something very different from the one in reality...

Harry
7/8/2014 01:49:28 pm

Mr. Sinclair,

First, primary sources are essential to the proper study of history, so your work has the potential to be useful. But I hope you realize that primary sources need to approached carefully, and with a critical eye. There are potential pitfalls to keep in mind: (1) the "primary" source might be a later forgery; and (2) the source, though genuine, might be inaccurate. For instance, a contemporary report that someone was convicted of witchcraft is not proof that the defendant was a witch. Likewise, scholars have questioned both the genuineness and accuracy of the Zeno letters.

Secondly, I am Jewish, but I am not aware of any requirement that Jesus was required to marry to attain his "position" (whatever you mean by that). Unlike Catholic clergy, Jewish clergy were certainly free to marry, and generally did so, but I have not heard of any rule that they were required to do so, let alone that an informal preacher like Jesus needed to do it. What is your source for that?

Thirdly, there is no doubt that Columbus believed that there was a land mass to the west, but he evidently believed that it was Asia, and no one I know of has found any credible evidence that he did not believe it was Asia in 1492 and for years afterward. All learned men in his time realized that the world was round, but those who questioned the wisdom of his expedition argued (correctly) that Asia was much farther away than he believed.

Fourthly (and pardon me for addressing a peripheral point), but the Jarldom of Orkney was not "strictly inheritable" or immune to the whim of kings. Henry I Sinclair was one of three claimants to the Jarldom and received it because King Haakon VI of Norway picked him over his rivals and invested him with the title in 1379. (I have no idea what entitled one to the title of "prince" in medieval Norway or even whether that was a recognized title at that time and place).

I hope you know what you are talking about. Floating claims like the foregoing make me question whether you do. But I would be happy to see you prove me wrong (I am particularly interested in your answer to my question in the second paragraph about the alleged Jewish marriage requirement).

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EP
7/8/2014 04:37:04 pm

Not only would Jesus not have been required to marry, but there actually were heterodox Jewish cults at that time who actually practiced celibacy (e.g., the Essenes).

Moreover, if we leave aside all the supernatural elements of the Gospels, one of the things that remains is Jesus's extraordinary and single-minded dedication to his disciples and his mission. A man like that, if he is not compelled to marry, could well choose to foresake marriage for the sake of his calling.

Raymond Howard
7/11/2014 05:11:25 pm

While the Sinclair family understandably are apt to trace their lineage to Jesus, I have no doubt of the tenability alone on the basis of much of what he says, as follows so does Kathleen McGowan, and actually many others that have considered the history of France going back to the secret orders of various kinds, not just the Cathars. Probability of what I have, is not unlike Hitler, the Sinclair's and myself are in the same haploid group associated with North Africans, and even Ashekanazi. Certainly traces anyway.

The instances of Jewish life would have Jesus marry, not as sanitized in Christian works that are alien to Jewish life in so many ways, most assuredly in thinking where he is totally celibate. The Lord's Prayer is a grafted prayer altered only so slightly from Kaddish prayer. And, the instance of transfiguration the way Europeans think of it, has nothing to do with anything that is Jewish! It's laudable to Jews the whole Jesus matter, and Christians want to convert them or kill them, if not have a love-hate relationship to them through their King of Kings.

Then, its all the very likely Columbus knew where the Americas were. Spanish courts, disputed his claims to holdings in the Americas just because there existed enough documentation in their libraries showing other excursions with the Vikings and earlier to the New World going back hundreds if not thousands of years before. He knew, and anything he would have to garner favor of Queen Isabella would have been pretense, just to have ships to make his way. Not all together truthful on his account having Portugues access to allot of information, but expedient.

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Harry
7/12/2014 03:36:27 am

Mr. Howard,

First, assuming that Jesus has living descendants today, they probably number in the billions. If he has any male line descendants, there is no record of who they were. How would anyone know?

I have no idea whether Henry Sinclair had Y DNA haplotype E1b1b - the one connected to North Africa that Hitler has been found to have. Assuming so, however, it is certainly no proof of a descent from Jesus, since North Africa was inhabited long before Jesus was born, presumably including people with the E1b1b haplotype. If Hitler is a male line descendant of Jesus, there is truly nothing special about such descent.

If you have any real evidence that anyone is descended from Jesus (as opposed to assumptions), please share.

Secondly, the fact that Jesus was allowed to marry doesn't prove that he did. I note that Gerald Sinclair claimed that marriage was mandatory for someone in Jesus' position, but nothing you say supports that claim. Indeed, as EP reminded us immediately above your post that the Essenes, who were active in Jesus' time and probably influenced him, practiced celibacy.

Thirdly, as I point out above, I don't doubt that Columbus believed that there was a land mass where America is, but I have found evidence to indicate that he did not believe it was Asia in 1492. Even if he was aware of Vinland (which is plausible), that does not mean that he did not think that Vinland is in Asia. If you know of any evidence (as opposed to assumptions) to the contrary, please share.


Sinclair
7/12/2014 04:08:18 am

Raymond Howartd says
Probability of what I have, is not unlike Hitler, the Sinclair's and myself are in the same haploid group associated with North Africans, and even Ashekanazi.

Raymond just exactly what haplogroup do you and the Sinclairs belong to? Haplogroup would take in a wide range of dna markers of people not related for thousands of years. Prince Henry Sinclair and General Arthur St.Clair who are the topic of discussion here would most likely share the same dna as they are from the Northern Sinclair family. It is one of some 12 lineages,which obviously separates it from all the other Sinclairs.Their dna would most likely match with tested Sinclairs from the North of Scotland shown below.

The current dna designation is
R1b1a1a1a1b1a1b2a1
Z346>DF101>DF102>S5246

The above dna is not matching with Steve StClair and proves no relation what so ever to him....so no not a distant relative of Prince Henry Sinclair as Steve has said on Wolters show lol

Raymond Howard
7/12/2014 04:13:11 am

Terry the Censor

As provided before, rivalry whether to science or academia in literature is nothing new. Peer review is much like a High School clique... which I'm not in, much less now in college at 58 years old having read a wide margin on lay books for over 30 years, albeit not the actual texts... and sorry, having a backgroud in medicine, the death and resurrection of Jesus does not stand the critique of physiological evidence to even a demigod dying and being resurrected, unless by way of Peter Cresswell, (not a Christian scholar, but very good at forensics whatever the background using the Gospels of the New Testament as written, backed up in main with Qoran) Cresswell's writing back up the claims furhter of Thiering if only given the example of Kaddish and the means very simple of resurrecting before and after the person of Jesus in Jewish society of Lazarus... NOT the hocus pocus of pagan liturgy. In modified means contemporaneously to this you can see this in rendition of the remake with Neil Diamond and Sir Laurence Olivier in the Jazz Singer.

So, so much for the idiocy in a variety of peer reviews to Barbara Thiering from the time of her publications, which did a great service to the secular world since it wouldnt' appeal at all to the "Born again" crowd that don't know their posterior end from a hole in the ground!!!

Please note to the term "idiocy" as it is applied per Merriam-Webster:


id·i·ot·ic
adjective \ˌi-dē-ˈä-tik\




















Definition of IDIOTIC


1

: characterized by idiocy


2

: showing complete lack of thought or common sense : foolish

— id·i·ot·i·cal·ly adverb

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Nancy Schmitz (Pirwitz)
1/25/2020 04:12:14 pm

I have no Website. I find I am only one woman wandering for insight. I truly believe in free will, at least to the extent you can ignore intuition if you choose. I personally have never felt an urge to ignore it. I really have absolutely nothing to lose, never have had. You can call me anything you like. I'm below poverty level income. Here, in the US, that isn't a hard mark to make. It's my son, my one and only child. I prayed to Jesus for. I prayed on a whim, I even considered giving him up g or adoption, that was where free will left me. I couldn't Dylan Sinclair Perkins. From a long line of Donald Sinclair has a purpose. I know that is truth. I would appreciate your help.

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Raymond Howard
7/12/2014 04:30:03 am

Sinclair: Is that a private study of DNA analysis or off Ancestry.com? Even royalty has it's admixtures not being so to speak 'pure'. America is not the most mixed group of peoples on the Earth anymore than Brazilians for example. The geographic distribution, and 'limits' of globalization does not preclude any number of colonizations around the world of any given society at any time in over 140,000 years of humanity's existence. Thus, the various anomalies of anyone's conjecture. So much so, that if you want to be out on the fringe, "Terra Nova" really isn't near as much out there as one might otherwise think, providing some measure of suspension of disbelief.

But really, let's take things a bit further for consideration... being all too human, much like bunny rabbits. I do ascribe to the 'idea' that Jesus lived, and being married would have produced children, with a high probability dependent upon mortality rate, that descendants would survive the mellenia. That said, and people not that afield bunny rabbits or for that matter Lab mice or rats, would have reproduced so that we all have the marker for whomever that Jesus was, as we do of every human on the planet composing similar DNA being 99% the same regardless of so called race... which going by Viktor Frankl, the only race of men there are be decent or indecent! Sinclair, across the board whether to others or yourself, consider the implications of that more so than how you are being criticized or the question thereof any familial selectivity in breeding.

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Raymond Howard
7/12/2014 04:44:08 am

Sinclair: Is that a private study of DNA analysis or off Ancestry.com? Even royalty has it's admixtures not being so to speak 'pure'. America is not the most mixed group of peoples on the Earth anymore than Brazilians for example. The geographic distribution, and 'limits' of globalization does not preclude any number of colonizations around the world of any given society at any time in over 140,000 years of humanity's existence. Thus, the various anomalies of anyone's conjecture. So much so, that if you want to be out on the fringe, "Terra Nova" really isn't near as much out there as one might otherwise think, providing some measure of suspension of disbelief.

But really, let's take things a bit further for consideration... being all too human, much like bunny rabbits. I do ascribe to the 'idea' that Jesus lived, and being married would have produced children, with a high probability dependent upon mortality rate, that descendants would survive the mellenia. That said, and people not that afield bunny rabbits or for that matter Lab mice or rats, would have reproduced so that we all have the marker for whomever that Jesus was, as we do of every human on the planet composing similar DNA being 99% the same regardless of so called race... which going by Viktor Frankl, the only race of men there are be decent or indecent! Sinclair, across the board whether to others or yourself, consider the implications of that more so than how you are being criticized or the question thereof any familial selectivity in breeding.

To another poster: While Jesus may or may not have existed, for there is enough to suggest that he didn't as well, the resources are vast out there for all kinds of opinion, even amongst the so thought 'experts'. Really doesn't matter, blue is still blue, 2+2=4, and if celibacy means anything with examples of the Essenes by way of the Catholic church, I don't put much stock in it except as Thiering in 'detail' and charts of the moon cycle ascribes to women in menses and the sexual relationship of women and men around all that in the Jewish life in rituals of the times whether they were of any priestly caste or otherwise.

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EP
7/12/2014 06:45:56 am

"Peer review is much like a High School clique..."

Those of us fortunate enough to belong to the Peer Review Clique work hard to keep Raymond Howard out. Squares like him will never be welcome at Peer Review keggers.

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Raymond Howard
7/12/2014 08:49:32 am

Exactly EP, exactly!!! As is the pesher as oft mentioned by Thiering since some here in understanding anything utilize Wikipedia with or without outside literality with Wikipedia source, here's one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesher

Being the word peseur also exists in French, it is not far afield for interpretation being that is what the word pesher means, for what the the similar word in French means as scales of balance of what is weighed.

Now, if you wish to move on... leaving the astute woman Thiering alone being no doubt a misogynist... try dismantling the entirety of Peter Cresswell like her explaining forensically, (mostly medically) how a man of knowledge akin Maiominides a few ten centuries later, might manage through a crucifixion 'appearing' as dead but not, to 'symbolically' be resurrected three days later with the same messianic pesher as Thiering describes of the Qumran community, not just Jesus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesher

Ah, class has been dismissed, and aside that some have actually graduated, of those see you at the reunions!!! ;)

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Gary Gianotti
9/7/2014 04:44:19 am

May I say that a major relic belonging to Gen. St. Clair has been found! The symbolism really does fall into what Scott Wolter is saying on a major extent! The relic was made by a person where its now proven these families founded the United States, not the Founding fathers. They were puppets to these families! Im not saying this is information saying Jesus bloodlines, its the history symbolism of the Most important ancient royal bloodlines. Where as you know, grail historians link this Jesus history to the Sinclairs. Jason, watch how you Criticize Scott, because my research will help you put your own foot in your mouth with Scotts claims on What the general believed, aside of Jesus bloodlnes with General St. Clair and what Scott has claimed!

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Robert Sinclair
9/7/2014 05:17:22 am

Interesting teaser Gary now give us the full story please. I am very interested in the history of Gen St .Clair.

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Steve StC
2/13/2016 10:10:55 pm

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.... Pretty much anything Robbie Sinclair writes can be answered in this way.

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Sinclair
2/14/2016 01:20:18 am

HMMMM THE SCUM has risen to the surface again, and with a foul odor

Gary Gianotti
9/7/2014 09:45:37 am

Jason, you have to watch this viedo, this guy solved everything on conspircay in under 2 minutes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LT7sfDRJ1w

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Dora
2/21/2015 07:46:09 am

It seems that US, being a young country, lacks certain aura of mystery in comparison to old Europe, so, the mystery gets imported by the idea that Templars went to America and brought Jesus blood line with them, or that the descendants of Jesus and MM live in US. Clever thing, as many people are hungry for mystery, so it is home delivered.

As thos eare gossipy ideas, no wonder that conspiracy theorists rant so much against academia.

Ah, those the academicians.How dare they to focus so much on evidence, and not to give credence to conspiratory gossip, when explaining everything is so simple, and doesn't require in depth knowledge, everything is "hidden in open sight" for everyone to see ;)

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saintluger
5/14/2016 09:22:38 am

what a faggot mangina, the TRUTH does not obey others WANT or rules, what fags and whores... LQQKS like time to clean house, humanity, time to take the human garbage out once and for all, and keep it out - besides, they're p-sick and inbred fucking each other for 1000's of years... disgusting harlots of loserville... bye bye! the real lineage is Scott, I of all should know. This is they they lie and say 666 is bad, ughmmm... no, it's the perfect man, and the cunts WANTED to play a game... and they lost. think woman vs whore... figure out who is the whore... and their little euro -inbed games got nada to do with the rest of the world... they're on their own. : )

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Shawn
8/14/2016 06:09:39 pm

Table Rock Lake Missouri
Shell Knob
Soon!

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Bob Smith
2/7/2017 04:25:17 pm

Hooked X
COULD THE HOOK AT THE TOP OF THE X WHICH RESEMBLES A Y TO ME, BE THE Y CHROMOSOME FROM HEAVEN AND THE X CHROMOSOME FROM EARTH !!!

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Raymond D. Howard
1/25/2020 07:39:57 pm

While I find a fair amount of Scott Wolter a fascinating dig at crypto-history, Jesus just doesn't exist. The Christ Myth stands on good ground but not just with Joseph Atwill. The Gospels themselves of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, are nom de plumes.

Now if there is any bloodline to follow in realm of the Cloth of Turin or the Sudarium of Ovedio, it will be found for the sake of the irony through not alone the AB - blood type that traces along with the DNA among some Druze, but as well with Clive Prince and Lynn Picknett, where in the 3 D imagery of the cloth they note a separation of head in relationship to the chest, as if it had been detached. Interestingly enough the last King of the Jews in 37 BCE, the Hasmonean, Maccabee, Seducee, Kohan Priest, Antigonus II Matthiatas was flogged, crucified, and beheaded by Mark Antony at Antioch. The Shroud and Sudarium of Ovedio belong to this said ruler.

There is also a skull with partial remnant of skin left upon it from the alleged John the Baptist, another manufacture for myth, where the skull is missing a complete jawbone. Circumstantial, but if the bone of the skull can be adequately compared to the jaw fragment at one time in the possession of the Forensic Socio-Cultural Anthropologist, Israel Hershkovitz, and any DNA obtained from both while I indeed do speculate here in the addition to this relic of head, the match would conclude as already said with Antigonus II Matthiatas.

So, while Jesus is fiction, any trace of ancestry to this DNA, would prove descent of this famous king, and disambiguate in how the narrative in great part of the NT was invented, being a schism already that existed between the Pharisee and Seducee, in which such a story began as the urban legend it is in effort the rest of the way for Rome to divide and conquer, as much quell further Jewish Revolts. This makes sense since among other things those that want to get metaphysical in believing Jesus rose from the grave... an event impossible given to Jewish mourning custom.... Sitting Shiva. Shiva meaning seven, in relationship that no one would have left the Shiva home to visit the burial site once interned within those seven days.

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        • Fragments on Giants
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