Scott Wolter's Apparently Non-Existent Degree

1/21/2013

Note: This post is only about a specific claim Scott Wolter made prior to hosting America Unearthed. For my reviews of the show, please see my America Unearthed reviews page.

America Unearthed star Scott Wolter claims to hold a 1987 honorary master's degree in geology from the University of Minnesota-Duluth. This claim appears in his corporate biographies, and he claimed the degree in a 2009 Coast to Coast interview. He uses this as one of his credentials as a "forensic geologist," for which his primary training is a bachelor's degree in geology, awarded in 1982.

I consulted the University of Minnesota, which keeps a list of all honorary degrees awarded by the University dating back to at least 1932. These awards are bestowed upon "individuals of local, statewide, national, or international prominence who have achieved distinction and recognition in public service, enterprise, philanthropy, education, science, literature, or the arts." (They are not, of course, actual academic degrees.)

Scott Wolter is not on that list.

He's also not on the second, independent list the college keeps.

The last time the University awarded an honorary master's degree was 1956.

This is not conclusive, of course. The online lists may be in error. I also consulted news accounts from 1987 and found no report of Wolter's alleged honorary degree in the commencement activities from that year. More damning? The profile of him that ran in the University of Minnesota alumni magazine in summer 2001 makes no mention of the alleged master's degree, reporting only his 1982 bachelor's degree.

(Interestingly, the 2001 profile also contains Wolter's admission that he had no experience or training in examining ancient stone materials, and that his expertise was largely in scientific testing of concrete.)

I could find no evidence that Wolter was ever granted the honorary degree he claims. I may have missed it, I suppose. But given the lack of evidence in any of the usual sources, it is up to Wolter to prove this degree actually exists.

1892 Comments

Tara Jordan

1/21/2013 01:25:01 pm

Eerie occurrence but again I am not surprised. Wolter has the profile of the average pseudo intellectual hooligan. Fake academic credential,ominous ego-centrism, over-inflated sense of self-esteem,relevance,omnipotence & accomplishment. But unlike many egomaniacs, Wolter is not delusional,he is a business entrepreneur & unfortunately too many people are taking his mumbo jumbo seriously.If Wolter was only half as smart as he pretends, I would ask him to do my nails

Scott F. Wolter link

1/22/2013 11:00:19 am

Tara,

I'd be happy to do your nails, but stupid me would probably break them... You're right about one thing, I'm probably not as smart as they make out to be on the show. However, I can found things on the Kensington Rune Stone scholars missed for over a hundred years that proved its medieval origin.

In the arena of investigating archaeological mysteries, how smart do you need to be?

Scott

Jason Colavito link

1/22/2013 12:39:49 pm

Please tell me that your final question was a joke.

Tara Jordan

1/22/2013 04:12:03 pm

Scott. You dont have to be extravagantly smart, I am not blaming you for making money & being successful, but when you pretend to do ethno-anthroplogy & archeology,you need to know the basics. Personally (my humble opinion) I think Geologists should stick to geology, not attempting to rewrite history.

As for the History Channel, I see them as a nest of unrepentant bag men dealing in cheap commercial sensationalism. The genius of marketing dysfunctional mediocrity.

Paul

3/17/2013 01:18:56 pm

Ever notice the freemason symbol is an "X" separated and moved around. they call it the compas and square, but I say it's an "X"

Joy Waters link

3/20/2013 01:31:28 pm

Richard LaFortune link

3/24/2013 09:36:28 pm

@Scott F. Wolter -- you can "found things"?

I guess you didn't get an honorary degree in English grammar. That show is pretty much a steaming load. What a drama queen :)

Terry DIxon

4/10/2013 11:35:44 am

The ruthlessness that academic researchers use to critique others research far exceeds the criticism Scott is receiving, as it should. For the most part the criticism of researchers is accepted by those being criticized as part of the scientific process to move closer to the truth. If a researcher's theory is wrong, the researcher wants to know as they do not want to spend their life, as they plan to do, studying something they know is not accurate. A person does not have to be a PhD to conduct competent and accepted research. Just in the martial arts where a black belt represents a goal reached (not necessarily retained in the present) the PhD represents the recognition of a goal reached documenting the person holding the PhD has reached a knowledge base and understanding worthy of recognition of being awarded a PhD. I encourage anyone who wants to conduct research, degree or not, to do so. If you have access to learning the scientific process out of academia, I would encourage it to increase acceptance of your work and decrease the chance that you will promote theories that may effect the well being of society. Study what is known about the topic you are researching; state your theory; identify criteria that support and reject your theory; create research that will have outcome that will either support or reject your theory; describe procedure that other researchers can duplicate to support or reject your theory; conduct the research: summarize findings; write your conclusions; submit them to the pubic for review: enjoy the reactions, pro and con to your research recognizing you have contributed to moving closer to truth and being comfortable that all assaults to your theory can be supported by your study and those who have led to your research in the past.

Alexandre de Oxalá link

5/11/2013 08:01:59 am

Scott Wolter's illustrious doctor, I was reading your story about the Maya and Georgia, and regarding some of your comments I would like to mention that:
1) The African people use a blue ink in his rituals, this paint is called Waji.
2) The spiral design as well as some circular designs, resemble the circular design that is used in paint skull during initiation rites used in African religiosity, as well as the question of the shape of their dances because everything connects to the return of ancestry in relation to ways of life and the future of mankind.

I apologize for the mistakes but I used an electronic translator because I am not fluent in your language.

Thank you for your attention.

Alexandre de Oxalá
Brasilia - Brazil

Jose Luiz Vieira (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)

5/11/2013 09:16:13 pm

Jason,

The series Unearthed America, is currently lodged in my country by Channel History Channel, and from the first episode that talks about the Mayans in Georgia, had serious doubts about the seriousness of Scott Wolter, who never gave me any credibility, looking more an adventurer or a reporter sensationalized, rather than an expert worthy of credibility.

I wonder if other people who appear in the series, are in fact who they say they are about people or suspicious.

His investigation into the alleged credentials that could not be confirmed, only further reinforces my impression that it is all a sham and mounted.

Although there may be some truth in the investigations made by Mr. Wolter, this is lost altogether, since the honesty of the person making the submission is totally put in doubt, thus damaging, serious work that could bring the light of Indeed many mysteries still present in human history.

I am very surprised too that a TV channel as the History Channel, will give way to a person without first investigating it to avoid any problems in the future that would tarnish the reputation of the issuer.

The story of a tomb of an Englishman of the twelfth century would have been found in a cave in Arizona outback is so unbelievable as to say that Jesus was an alien.

How is it possible to believe that someone at that time, were able to cross over the United Kingdom, in addition to cross one of the most inhospitable deserts there and then die and be buried in a cave? Assuming that they had crossed the Atlantic, it would be unbelievable, and even more so if we consider the distance traveled from the east coast, assuming that had landed there.

You are right that there is much evidence of the arrival of European man in America before Columbus, especially the Vikings, but I think this time they went too far. Just missing say that Pocahontas was Queen of England or that Joan of Arc was buried in New York!!

I think they should do an urgent examination of sanity, and a drug test in Mr. Wolter, before he can get more space for a program doubtful.

I apologize if my English is not correct, because I am using a translator, ok?

Thank you for your attention..

José Luiz.

5/18/2013 05:34:32 am

Scott, I liked your episode on the possible burial site in the Mustang Mountains. But now, right after that, I just sat through your "Holy Grail" episode, after reading the summary description in Verizon's on-screen program guide. I don't know if they came up with this wording, or if you did, but it says your findings were "shocking." On the show, your search for the Holy Grail and for gold was a bust. There were zero shocking findings. One thing that was under your control was the use of divining rods. True, you initially described them as "controversial" (the truth is they have been debunked). But as the show progressed and you referred back to the "findings" of the divining rods, your disclaimer became weaker and weaker. Incredibly, even at the end of the show, after the gold predicted by the rods was not there, you would not admit they were a scam. Rigorous scientific training would have saved you from wasting your time on these. In sum, I'm a new viewer and I found your show interesting up to the time I realized that you cannot be a trained scientist. Now much of that interest has become doubt. We can't see what gets screened out or manipulated during editing. We have to trust you. But you can't fake your credentials and expect trust.

olga

5/18/2013 07:19:57 am

Mr. Wolter, the lady who wrote the text about her nails was not very smart herself. If anyone really watched the history channel they would have seen that you called several different experts to verify your findings. I found the show very interesting. Please keep up the good work!! Should look up Americus Vespuchi, not sure about the spelling. What you might find out about Columbus might be surprising. Good Luck!

ignacio

6/24/2013 12:25:47 pm

monte hermon (beirut)-Stonehenge (inglaterra)- salem nh (eeuu)- piramides del sol (mejico)... ?????? (y en el cielo el cinturon de boyero-bootes)

TV- Stonehenge en América
Misterios enterrados

Christopher Quinn link

7/14/2013 12:34:32 pm

I feel that Mr. Wolter is passionate about a field of study that many are not familiar with. The possibility of a Pre-Columbian European presence in North America is a bit of a stretch but we cannot ignore the evidence;a lot of it is circumstantial and needs further scrutiny by credentialed scientists who use empirically supported evidence based practices to come to a realistic conclusion. Is it possible that a small group of English or other Europeans penetrated far in to the interior of North America? Perhaps. Is it also possible that a person with an understanding of ancient runes and methods of writing could have fabricated a stone or grave marker? Yes. We have to remember that "America Unearthed" is still a TV show, it is supposed to be interesting enough to make all of us tune in next week.
B.S. Criminal Justice
M.A. Human Services

Jack Winters

8/8/2013 02:06:01 am

All I can say is degree or not, the questions that are being asked; and the exercise of challenging history and all of the s-called "academia" is something that more people should be doing. Knowledge is something that should produce a thirst; a thirst that cannot be quenched. I applaud this series and Scott for doing just that.

If your travels ever take you to the northeast; specifically the New York area i's love the opportunity to explore with you.

Carry on,

Jack

Gooch

9/13/2013 11:12:00 pm

I have watched several episodes of this show, and I have to admit that going in, I was very excited about the prospect of seeing mainstream overturned with hard evidence. At the end of the first episode, I was astonished by a few self evident facts displayed. Fact one is that Scott makes suppositions and only then looks for supporting evidence. Fact two- every bit of 'evidence' he thinks he has found is rebuffed or dismissed by the experts he consults even though they are carefully edited to seem more accepting. Fact three is that even after hearing that that there is no way that this 'evidence' is what he hopes it is, he states how monumental it would be if such a thing were true and states his belief that, "the door on this is still open" and the clip is cut before the expert replies,"No... it's not, and the evidence proved it's not." The more experts deny his fantasy, the more vehemently he asserts that it must be true! Science is the direct OPPOSITE of denial of the truth. Fact four- At the end of every show, not one question has been answered, not one piece of real evidence has been supported, and they continually fail to find anything they are looking for, and was sure was there, even after they used the dowsing rods to make sure it was there! Lol Fact five- Anyone who even allows a dowsing rod to even be mentioned in the same sentence as science, just lost all credibility. My first thought at the end of the show was,"What? They didn't find a thing! What a joke." I have to say I am appalled and ashamed by many of the comments on this page. The most important thing to remember here is that this man is a showman... and in the words of a far more successful showman, "There is a sucker born every minute!" I could really care less whether he has framed horse manure on his wall- the proof is in the pudding, as they say. Some of these view points of Scott's 'supporters' would be more excusable 15 years ago, but now the internet is sophisticated enough that nearly anyone can research any extraordinary claims themselves. I routinely double check everything I hear on both the Science Channel and H2 and I can tell you that the majority of everything on these channels is suspect if you are looking for unassailable and incontrovertible facts. These channels deal more with controversial hypothesis and conspiracy 'theories' rather than supportable scientific theory. That anyone in this day can seriously buy into 'ancient aliens' and such after actually listening to the poop which pours from their mouths with such side grinning conviction, makes me fear for the future of mankind. Intelligent people think about the future and straining resources and have restraint on their reproduction while uneducated people who believe exciting fairy tales multiply like mindless rats! Otherwise these channels would be too embarrassed to air such travesties of the scientific method!! If there weren't billions of suckers out there, we wouldn't have corporations gouging us and paying us dirt now would we? Or a top 1% who considers us all suckers...Anyway, this is the foundation which America Unearthed is built on... Our true history probably is distorted and missing many chucks of truth, but there is a good reason for this... there is no strong evidence to the contrary and because we've been foolish enough to allow the greedy enough power to distort the truth when it serves their greed! Science is NEVER based on 'could be'. I can tell you that any serious academic will dismiss everything on this show based on everything in it! How can I tell that? Because I don't have a degree either and even I find it embarrassing how easily people are taken in by this kind of mumbo-jumbo. I study physics constantly as an amateur and have for years, so I know that anyone without formal training in the sciences is swimming deep in a dark and forbidding ocean with little chance in hades of successfully navigating it. Higher knowledge is often incomprehensible if you don't have years of the proper prerequisites and it is also true that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," because you will always draw the wrong conclusion when you are not in possession of all the facts, most of which are far above the average joe's head. The accumulated knowledge of the ages is so vast that you can spend a lifetime and never learn more than a bit of it, let alone break new ground. This makes it very easy to 'wow' and pull the wool over the eyes of the average couch potato that has not spent a minute in secondary education. My general rule of thumb is this... don't believe a word you hear from friends until you've confirmed it yourself or gotten the opinion of several people who are more knowledgeable than yourself, and don't believe a word of what you hear on TV- Period!! TV is fantasy land, not a substitute for college.

jessica

9/17/2013 05:10:15 pm

Scott,
I was so pleased to see you defend yourself . I am a fan of your work. Regardless if you were given the award or not you ate brilliant an have a great eye. You answer questions others fear. My husband an I enjoy your show . Thank you

Ann Adam

11/30/2013 02:46:45 pm

Scott ~ For you to encourage conspiracy theorists shows your overriding desire for monetary gain rather than any effort to research or educate.
Signed, A past Job's Daughter and daughter of a 32nd degree Mason, who has a full knowledge of same.

Cly

12/7/2013 05:19:15 pm

Scott, I would say you need to be very smart, and understand local cultures. but this isn't really why I replied. I have watched every show, and did my on research. I try to understand these things but can't always come up with an answer. However there is one thing you mentioned on the show that is a fact. You were at those big stones in Georgia and it said the population would be reduced to 500,000,000. You ask a question: "How would this be done." After researching this I found the answer, and President Bill Clinton signed this agreement on behalf of the United States while in office. The United Nations Agenda 21 is your answer. it explains how the population of the earth will be reduced to a manageable population. if that isn't New World Order, nothing is.

George A. Wojtowycz

12/15/2013 08:39:31 am

Hey Scott, I've only seen your show 5 or 6 six times, but each and every time you never seem to find what you are looking for! Maybe it's because you keep making extraordinary claims about pre-Columbian links to European history that require extraordinary evidence you've no chance of finding!

You should from researchers of Jesse James's past! They make less grandiose claims that Jesse and Frank belonged to a secret Confederate organization. Their research into the group opened up very realistic leads of mundane stuff like initials and map signs! And at the end THEY FOUND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR! Was it some great linking to the Templars!? No! It was simply a clandestine dead drop for paying operatives for services rendered! A jar full of silver dollars! They are exploring one claim that bears notice: That Jesse faked his death at St. Joe, but to me there is yet no connection. The later date of the coins means nothing as yet. People die, but organizations outlive people! Like the Klan, or if you will, the NAACP!

Still, don't give up hope! The Alex Jones's and the Glenn Becks of this world need something to put their tinfoil beanies on for!

Dr Dee McGarrity

12/16/2013 02:38:39 am

I am confused about a program relating to the Arc of the covenant. The Stone of Destiny that was referred to. If I am correct the Stone of Destiny is the stone of Scone upon which the kings of Ireland were crowned. The thing is that stone went from Ireland to Scotland for the same purpose, and was stolen and taken to England. In fact Queen Elizabeth (current) was crowned on it. It has been returned to Scotland and will reside there for evermore. IT NEVER LEFT THE BRITISH ILES. I have studied the history and even used it for a basis of a poem.

John Ballas

12/16/2013 01:13:39 pm

Tara, I think it is best to agree to disagree. Because I do know many who hold a Masters or a PhD. And they all think they know everything and believe there opinion is truth. These " know it alls " write the History Books we learn from. I myself have proven the History books wrong in my own research on a campaign during the French and Indian War. And also plan to solve an archaeological mystery about it. And I will do this with my PhD in using a metal detector. And Scott, if I find the "Ark of the Covenant". I will be sure to call you first. I would love to do what you do.

John Ballas

Mark McLaughlin

12/21/2013 05:33:15 pm

Scott

You need to be pretty smart. All the junk science is taking up space on cable TV. It's mind numbing. Let's not confuse the children eh?

Mark

12/29/2013 11:37:36 am

So psudo-science it is! the myan show plausible i guess logic alone makes that seem plausible. I mean if i was running a civilization in central america 1000 years ago I would follow the coast with expansion just for simple logistic reasoning trasnportation along the coast makes sense, beyond that you went into lala land a 12th centuary brit in arizona.... if you dont dig the body up then its just a hoax get the permits! do it. to hell with the permits just get a shovel and live up to the Indiana jones billing they put on you! life is not about following rules! next was the non fired clay tablet...... um umm no way it would survive 5k years simple rain watter would have whiped the slate clean in under 20 years even burried water flows threw soil and tree roots would have broken it up shoot smithsonian was right fraud! now if you want people to remotely take you seriously show some real Minoan script and same thing with the ingot sample you talk about but never show! 1/2 the dang show is filled with filler anyhow so dont tell us you did not have room to put in some relavent info shoddy work man very shoddy. The premise of the show is cool but you need to put some real science and some phds into it most of the people you interview are all sympathetic and seem scripted and look like they are a rung shy of imbreeding on the dna ladder. Do Radio carbon dateing on stuff if not then get off the air!

Paul Douglas Valentine

1/3/2014 02:44:36 am

I for one, Scott, believe you to be an extremely intellectual individual.

Virginia

1/4/2014 03:12:07 pm

Oh my goodness - I read a bunch of these comments and I'm not sure what all the negativity is about. Was the blogger in the running for the host spot of the show? Why so cranky? Hey, I have a B.A. in Broadcast Journalism that is entirely irrelevant in the digital age but GUESS WHAT? It takes a lot to host a show on television and speak extemporaneously while being interesting and keeping all the information together. I've done some of it and not many people can do it. It is far easier to blog :) and hide behind a blog :) and not put yourself out there for criticism, oh and we might also consider the kind of personalities who create blogs like this, with their pictures and "about me" tabs, etc. Fascinating phenomenon with regard to ego. I prefer to live and let live. No need to "out" anyone...but there for the grace of God, go I. And let's not forget that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. And let's face it - we ALL live in glass houses. Who among thee???? Jeez, I'm not even religious! I like the show. It makes me think about unusual things. So thanks, Mr. Wolter and wow, I am so, so sorry about your dad. That is incomprehensible on so many levels.

Daryl L. Hunter link

1/4/2014 03:39:19 pm

Scott, it is to bad that your show is full of BS, it had such a great appeal to the premise.

If there is a smidgin of truth in it, it is too bad you poison credibility with crap!

sayitaintso

1/5/2014 12:37:25 pm

Forget their negative talk. You are too handsome not to watch!

Trey

1/11/2014 05:31:59 pm

Jason,

I can see (others can as well I assume) that you are a very intelligent and educated individual. My question to you is what is your obsession with Scott and his education? Does it affect you personally? Does it cost you money? What is he doing with HIS show that is causing you so much pain that you feel the absolute need of attemtping to discredit this person in front of the world? It makes me wonder why you dont focus your obvious intelligence elsewhere. I dont mean that as a slight. What I'm saying is if you put this much effort into solving history ( your counter findings on Scotts research) as you have put into Scott Wolters education.......you might have YOUR own show on TV.

Obviously someone at the history channel thinks he is credible enough to make the investment into him. And that investment has paid off because he has another season airing this year.

I think you could be much more successful if you focused that energy into teaching history or publishing books on history to share with the world rather than targeting someone's education or lack of education....whatever........I mean honestly ......who cares?

Trey

1/11/2014 05:32:06 pm

Jason Colavito link

1/11/2014 10:36:12 pm

If I may, Trey, how does writing a couple of paragraphs a year ago constitute an obsession? Do you see it mentioned in my current reviews of the series?

Todd Venable

1/12/2014 03:06:12 am

HELLO Scott,
By gosh we watch your show and really think it makes all the since in the world! Lol I wish I could work with you for that matter!
But I for one have never believed in all we have been taught!
And finally someone who happens to have facts that we weren't told everything! So my friend I'm with you 100% Keep up the great work!
And thank you! ,Todd

who cares

1/19/2014 06:31:12 am

Glad you only commented once. How much money does Jason make an episode on America Unearthed??

who cares

1/19/2014 06:38:59 am

Your show is like a jury trial: people are free to believe none, parts or all of your testimony to reach their own conclusions. I totally get the picture, some are less fortunate. Nevertheless, if people are hanging their hats on everything you claim to be true as part of your theories or research too bad for them and their closed minded experience or intellectual breakthroughs. More power too you and keep up the good work. Looking forward to snake mound as I can recall pitching this to History Channel.

1/19/2014 11:48:11 am

It appears Mr. intelligent ran out of gas.

Deanne Smith link

1/22/2014 05:38:55 pm

I think all you have to be is willing and curious. I want to say to all you nay sayers out there that are so willing to run this man down without even knowing his side of things but judging him by TV are not out there trying to enlighten the knowledge of anyone. Sitting on your butts and not inspiring anything but misery. If Mr. Wolter inspires one child to be interested in something more than video games then he has got you beat hands down. So shut up and don't watch if you can't be anything other than a bully . As far as I'm concerned he and the HC got every single one of you to think and question and that is all they are doing . Know one ever said it was a show based on facts. It is a show to go and see things you normally don't see that are curiously there without a reason to be so. It is a learning opportunity for him and whom ever wants to watch to know more about your history and the continent you live on. So its not going to be factual when its all a guess. You still have to know where to go to find the answers to the questions posed and it helps if you have been exposed to a lot of people in the acedemia circle. I believe Mr. Wolter has proven he knows these people and knows how to do the research degree or no degree from a university that doesn't mean anything anyway.The degree he has does and his colleagues seem to respect the fact that he knows his rocks. What kind of degree do any of you have? Thought so!
Mr. Wolter if you see this I would like your advice on a petrified bone I found in a pile of core bucket dirt from Arkansas just south of L.R. in Bryant. It is the wrist bone where the hand attaches. I took it to my Dr. and he confirmed it as such. How long does it take bone to petrify and can it be petrified by the likes of a meteor strike? Crazy I know. The drill hole was 40 ft. for an elevator casing. There are other pieces of bone that appear to be vertabrea. My husband brought this dirt home because there was no place to dump it on sight. The area being populated already right off I-30 across from a Walmart. The build was a Comfort Inn at the Reynolds exit , Bryant , Ark. There are quartz stones, blue to grey color, of course most are encased in the concrete they used but the bone is not , why would the bone not be in the concrete too? Patience is my virtue and I look forward to what you might can tell me. If you see this post that is.
Thank You for Your Time and Considerations. Love the show ! ds

Gary

2/1/2014 05:23:00 pm

To investigate archaeological mysteries, one doesn't have to be very smart But to prove them, one must be very smart, unless one stumbles on some previously unknown fact. I watch "America Unearthed" and find it interesting, but little is ever proved. Even the experts on the show discredit your postulations. I put it in the category of the many "alien" programs on TV, a lot of interesting theories, but little to back them up. BTW, you should improve your writing proficiency as well as your history knowledge.

Ms. JJ

2/6/2014 04:51:27 pm

I don't think the Scott Wolter from AU wrote the above comment.

BOBBY ILARIA

2/8/2014 11:11:46 am

HOWEVER, I 'CAN" FOUND THINGS! WHATS THAT MEAN? ANYWAY,YOUR SHOW HAS BEEN INTERESTING THE FEW TIMES IV,E SEEN IT.BUT NOW I SEE YOUR REAL INTENSIONS.YOU SOUND LIKE AN ACADEMIC WHO IN HIS HEART KNOWS CHRIST WAS THE SON OF GOD,BUT YOUR EGO IS ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE JESUS JUST A MAN. DONT YOU THINK THAT THE WRITERS OF THE NEW TESTIMENT WOULD HAVE MENTIONED SOMETHING LIKE JESUS GETTING MARRIED AN HAVING CHILDREN? AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER THESE ARE MEN WHO WALKED WITH JESUS AND ALL GOT KILLED FOR THIER BELIEF. THESE MEN WERE HUMAN LIKE YOU AND I, AN I WOULDN,T DIE FOR SOMETHING I BELIEVED IN BUT KNEW IT WASN,T REAL.THIS IS ONE MAN WHO MANKIND MARKS TIME BY.WHOM ALL OTHER RELIGIONS ARE COMPARED TO.YOU SOUND LIKE AN AGNOSTIC, RATHER THEN A ATHIEST.ONE DAY YOU WILL STAND BEFORE GOD THE FATHER WITH JESUS BY HIS SIDE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE TOLD THE TRUTH. THAT JESUS WAS BORN TO A VIRGIN,LIVED A SINLESS LIFE. NEVER MARRIED OR HAD CHILDREN, BUT DIED ON A CROSS SO YOU AN I CAN HAVE ETERNAL LIFE IF WE BELIEVE.I COULD GO ON AND ON SO I,LL STOP WITH THIS.ONE MAN SAID TO ME.I KNOW IN MY HEART AS WELL AS MY MIND THAT THE GOSPELL IS TRUE AN JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD.SO IF YOUR RIGHTSCOTT I DIDNT LOOSE ANYTHING BUT IF IM RIGHT THAT THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE IS TO BELIEVE THEN YOU LOST EVERYTHING. YOU MIGHT LIVE A DAY MORE OR MAYBE YOU.LL BE BLESSED AN LIVE ANOTHER 40 YEARS BUT EITHER WAY YOU WILL DIE AND HAVE TO ANSWER.

P.S. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE YOURSELF THAT JESUS WASN,T THE SON OF GOD. BY FOLLOWING STONES AND SYMBOLS, FOLKLURE,AND MYTHS.AND YOUR COLLEGE SAYS YOU NEVER RECEIVED A HONERARY DRS. DEGREE FROM U.M. WHATS UP WITH THAT?

Steven Knivila

2/8/2014 01:47:26 pm

So you were an investigator at the Pentagon for 9/11? Now you have a television show? Paid off quite well I'd say. Where were the plane parts and what the hell happened with Building 7? That would be a much better show.

Don Orlovsky

2/9/2014 08:19:09 am

I enjoy America Unearthed--its a good show which I find to be entertaining and somewhat informative. I also find that some of the positions advanced by Mr. Wolter stimulate further inquiry. Whether he received an honorary masters degree or whether he neglected to correct an obvious typographical error in an email is quite beside the point.

On this I whole heartedly agree- the history that we have been taught is replete with inaccuracies, which are often represented as being fact without regard to other, equally plausible, but often less popular explanations for our historical development.

Mr. Wolter's assertion that there was a European pre-Columbian presence in North America is, in my view, one worthy of ongoing examination and one that seems to foster a great deal of resistence. I found the episodes of America Uneartherd dealing with the Vikings, the Desert Cross and the discoveries made along the Arkansas River in Oklahoma, among other episodes, to be thought provoking and sufficient to lay a basis for further and more detailed inquiry, assuming, of course, that the matters discussed are factually based.

Mr. Wolter is willing to bring to bear archeology, geology and other disciplines as a means for testing ther validity of what has come to be accepted as historical fact, By doing so, he has opened a worthwhile dialogue which has great potential. If history is rewritten in the process, so be it.

Kevin Via link

2/12/2014 06:05:19 am

I do not believe someone with Scotts background would write such a paragraph. mainly I believe he would list his credentials and back up his statements not just puke them out.Also if you actually try to retype this you have to make the mistakes on purpose. Well at least on my computer, when I tried to retype the exact same thing "Scott" was suppose to have wrote the Grammar and spell checker kept correcting the errors. Its sad the people on this page are so angry , because there is someone out there who thinks we have it wrong. Your kidding me someone may have history wrong. At this very time President Obama is trying to have or schoolbooks rewritten with a left leaning overtone to insure that the massive debacles under our very liberal 20th century government are not passed on to our children so that they to can make the same mistake that has been being made for 2000 years all the way back to the roman empire.

Jason Rumsey

2/20/2014 07:07:08 pm

Hey Scott, I have just started watching the show and I have to say it is interesting to say the least. The thing that constantly baffles me is that you of all people should know the government will never let you get the "Real" truth out there, EVER. That is the way of the world and of the persons placed in power, always has and always will. I am a retired U.S. Army SGT that served for 10 years and 3 combat deployments so I know what I am talking about when it comes to government cover-up's and the like. These people will deny you because they can not or will not let the truth come to light, the ramifications of the things you investigate are far too important to the persons in power and control of this government. I do have a propitiation for you though, if you run into areas that you have been denied access I can get in, get the info and get out without detection, it's what the government trained me to do. So let me know if you could use the assistance.

Chuck Shumway link

2/22/2014 02:52:37 pm

Scott: Read the Book of Mormon. Not for the religious aspects, but the belief that the Polynesians started in the Old Word and settled across the islands and Mexico.

Cathie Prosser

2/27/2014 04:32:20 am

Simple, some are gifted without earning a degree. What happened to on the site learning?

joe

7/3/2014 12:49:39 pm

Jason, have you put as much effort into determining Obama's alleged degrees, even though no professors remember him and he appears to have no college friends who remember him?

Richard

7/8/2014 05:52:42 am

Scott Wolter is obviously a charletan AND and idiot. Anyone who would seriously consider the authenticity of the Kensington Rune Stone has to have read the 1960s study by Theodore Blegen, for whom a building is named on the University of Minnesota's Minneapolis campus. In his account, Blegen relates evidence that not only disproves that the rune stone was written in medieval times by showing how the GRAMMAR used in the stone's inscription was a MODERN norse but he also shows hard evidence that several individuals perpetrated a hoax on the entire religious and academic community who had it in for specific people. It appears that Wolter is doing the same thing with his "leap" to presume the legitimacy of the rune stone in the face of such a damning study. Clearly his false credentials add little to refute my argument.

Richard
Minneapolis
I have an ACTUAL Master's Degree...

Asa

8/2/2014 08:47:36 am

A hell of a lot smarter than you Scott

Mitch Wolters

8/14/2014 11:49:42 am

The fact that you responded to this blog proves what a blowhard tool you are, that means you constant google your own name, you are the living personification of a modern day snake oil salesman. I hope you and your son get killed by a car driven by the producers of ancient aliens

Doc

8/23/2014 02:57:23 am

Who cares the show just brings possibilities to question.Alot of effort to try to damage a guy who is engages in a passion he enjoys and make money .(Someone sounds jealous) I reside in nj but grew up in my younger years in Long Island NY. I watched crew unearth tanks buried under railroad tracks in Central Islip.Why were they buried .I am talking Army tanks,they were there because they were loaded on rails for transport and someone left 3 behind so things uncovered just digging is amazing. Theres Gold 250 feet of Staten Island 40 feet underwater under rocks that haven't seen light .get your scuba gear

dean lawson

8/29/2014 08:32:36 am

Dear Scott I have some interesting artifacts you may find worthy of researching, I do not know how long it takes for sinew to mineralize; or if you can determine what animal it came from; but I have found stone tools that probably dispute the time frame for the earliest human inhabitation which is believed 12,000 to 13,000 years ago. I hope you are interested and reply . My number is 1 660 605 1771 or my son's number 1 660 605 2080. By the way; love your show

Brian Stebbins

9/11/2014 06:01:11 am

Hes just goin back to cover his tracks Jason, he would have continued to lie about until the evidence smacked him in his face

What a convenient truth, you would have denounced it well before 2012

Mr. E

9/23/2014 10:52:00 am

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/scott-wolter-lashes-out-at-me-again-says-future-events-might-cause-him-to-sue-me

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/a-friday-fringe-history-grab-bag

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/scott-wolter-on-the-attack-jason-colavitos-life-is-unbalanced-and-he-cant-be-taken-seriously

Jimbo 226SIG

11/2/2014 08:43:23 am

Right you are Scott. She's just another jealous, non-educated moron.
Doesn't even know what the theory of relativityis.

M. Gonzalez

11/8/2014 07:12:23 am

It's nice that there are still some smart folks in the world that can spot the mumbo jumbo. The America Unearthed episode on Stonehenge was a joke, just not a funny one. The show is garbage and H2 is going to garbage like most of the other "science" and and "history" based channels.

Jeptha B Cobb.

11/10/2014 01:10:05 pm

Well Scott. As a Doctor of medicine, my patients expect me to be capable of having at least a cursory degree of knowledge of the human body and mind.I would be ashamed to claim to possess a degree I had not earned. Have you even considered the damage, in misinformation
you are imposing on our youth? Or perhaps you don't care. We as adults have an obligation to protect the young as well as the undereducated from Charlitans such as you. Btw, Yes.My credentials
are online.Where are yours?

tlf

11/13/2014 06:34:50 pm

Scott, I enjoy your program. I like that you stir our thoughts and ideas. There are myriads of subjects dealing with North American geology and history that are left untouched for who knows what reasons. I like that you have the spirit of adventure and healthy curiosity to tackle these fascinating subjects, and present them in an engaging manner!

david, roth

11/21/2014 07:54:01 am

A good investigative reporter will not simply rely on information from the Internet. Apparently your argument apex’s on the reliability of Internet sourced information, versus literally contacting your research contact directly and asking him for his degree? Have you done that?
He seems a pretty honest and open guy to me. The article certainly mentions and does not deny he actually attended UMD, the University you're claiming he never went to? Nor did you happen to mention that he was mentored one-on-one with the head geologist.
Most students would hate to their eyeteeth to have a mentor professor. That alone is a degree. The sheepskin is literally a transfer of money or wealth from an individual to the University probably with no knowledge or experience given for the money. Do you know how many graduates I worked with that were dumber than dumb, but actually have a degree?
His collective common knowledge on the subject of archaeology history and geology, whether it's degreed are not is great enough to hold the interest of the people and a successful television program.
Let's not forget Capt. kangaroo was never really a Capt in any military. There were geologist really has nothing to do with a degree. Sort of like saying, you're a investigative reporter journalist? Or did you get your journalist degree to back up your investigative reporting skills.
Does the term defamation of character mean anything to you? It's a legal term that once a person put something into print for the public consumption, and they call themselves a professional in that field of journalism or publication, you better do your homework first. Otherwise you could be liable by slander per se.

Robert Goodyear

11/28/2014 12:08:45 pm

Doctor (or Master, or Bachelor, but more likely GED) Wolter.

You need to be smarter than the stones that you claim are ancient and meaningful.

Do you have a family of Greys behind your neighbor's barn?

Your partner in hoaxes, Giorgio Tsoukalos, can certainly prove they're there.

Justin Little

12/6/2014 09:12:45 pm

Good evening Mr. Wolter,
First I'd like to start off saying don't let this site or any others like this discourage you on your path. You have an amazing look on things and also (proven facts), that even the moderator of this site could even began to fathom, but because Jason couldn't get a show he wants tarnish the view of others for his personal self pity. I think your knowledge is vastly amazing and true or not Jasons probably never left his computer chair unlike yourself who gets hands on and out in the field. Keep it up and love the show. I just finished the Col. Custer espisode and can't wait for Capt. Kidd next week. Keep the search strong. God bless you and your wife. Don't let trolls keep you from finding the history we've been lies to about all the years.
One of your new biggest fans,
Justin G. Little
Bakersfield, Ca.

septimius severus

1/5/2015 10:36:46 am

Dear scott, go back to school so you can learn the scientific method and the definitions of fact, evidence, hypothesis, and theory. MMMMMMMMMMMMMK THANKS A BUNCH!

mark

1/7/2015 10:32:33 am

Linda Hart-Hyde

1/23/2015 03:55:44 am

I am truly amazed at the negative remarks. Amazing how others want to attack the work you are doing. Academics is not what it is cracked up to be anyway. Many lack common sense. I am a non-academic gal who had a wonderful career in IT Technology and Management. I am not stupid. Scott, you keep up your goal of bringing viewers closer to history and geology. The combination of the two happen to be a love of mine. Keep on bringing history and forensic geology to your fans. I will try and keep an open mind when the Jesus and Mary episode. Keep up the great work!! 😃

josh sprague

1/24/2015 01:45:01 pm

first id like to say the show is great,this is meant to make people question what they have been told,it does that.second ,to all you scholars out there using the phrase pre-columbian discovery,how can you discover a country that was already occupied?

Sean

1/24/2015 01:55:38 pm

Hi Scott,

Loved your comments regarding your father!!! To be honest, I am shocked to see that you have taken the time to reply to Jason's blog. The fact that you do not have a graduate degree is irrelevant as you are a well known published author in your field. Good for you!!! JASON, please check your grammar...I assure your that Scott's was not much better, however, he has NOTHING to prove...

Jack Meove

1/24/2015 06:39:10 pm

Hi Jason, Hey!, I had a thought.... I want to ask a simple question to everyone here!
• Is 2+2=4? Yes or No?
Obviously 4 Right? Here is the tricky part about People... Because of our egos if I tell you that you are wrong.... Wrong about anything btw.... Your Ego will take over and you will insist that you are correct at any and all cost in order to save face.
If you are driving down the road. And you come to a 4 way light. You have a green light! You have the right away. Right? Yes. You do! What do you do? You blaze away through the intersection knowing you have the right away.... You then get T Boned!
Someone ran a red light and hit you. Totaling your car, breaking both your legs. You lose your manhood!
For as long as I can remember, whenever I approach ANY intersection regardless of green lights, right away, I slow, I cover my brakes, and I look for idiots that might run a red light! Or insist they are right!
There are two kinds of people. People with Ego's they need to protect, and people who know themselves, the truth, and facts. In this situation which is right? You having the right away, by law, and having the green light? Or, someone like me, who will slow down traffic behind me, cover my brakes, and watch for someone who might run a red light and potentially kill me?
People like you who can’t see the real truth and facts, or potentials thereof have to protect your ego. You absolutely have to be right even though you are wrong. People like you will argue to the very end about having the right away at the intersection! I had the green light! I had the right away! I was right! It was the other persons fault!
What if you were driving and you had your two year old daughter in the passenger seat of the car? Yep! You were right! You had the right away! You had the green light! The law said you were right! Your Insurance said you were right! Everyone who witnessed the accident said you were in the right! The Coroners said you were right. Insurance paid for the casket, the funeral because you were right. You had the right away! All you family, friends, that brought funeral potatoes, food said your were right! Strange that all of a sudden your wife hates you! But why? YOU WERE RIGHT! REMEMBER? YOU TELL YOUR WIFE, I WAS RIGHT!
But in that accident your little 2 year old daughter was killed! You were right alright! DEAD RIGHT! Because you refused to take a little precaution, drive defensively, slow a little before burning through the intersection, covering your brake. YOU KILLED YOUR LITTLE GIRL! YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT LIFE! But remember you were right!
WAS IT WORTH BEING RIGHT? YOU’RE LITTLE GIRLS LIFE? Was it worth a life? Was it?
You’re the type of person along with 99% of the population when traveling on an airplane, during the trip the engine falls off the wing! The plane crashes! You and everyone else dies! Who is at fault? The Airliner of course! Again, everyone agrees, the insurance, Johnny Law, everyone. Your Insurance pays off. Because it was the Airliners fault right? Well You’re dead! You left your family, your wife loses the house because she can’t afford it. Your kids starve. And everyone lives under the freeway. You wife becomes a Hooker, a whore. Sucking Dick! Because you were killed on a plane due to the engine falling off the wing? How does it feel to be right? Who is really at fault? You decided to get on a plane. You decided to take a chance that flying was going to be safe that day. You decided to wake up and walk out the door and get on that particular plane and carrier. You took the chance. IT’S YOUR FAULT! IT’S NO DIFFERENT THAN DECIDING TO SKY DIVE. LIFE HAS RISK. SOME MORE THAN OTHERS. DID YOU WEIGH YOUR RISKS? Guess not! It’s your fault your dead and your wife is a whore and sucking dick.
My point, you and others like you can’t see this point of view! Can’t see who is really wrong! All you care about is being right! Well, you see where that got you above? Your little girl is dead, your wife hates you cause your were right! You’re dead! And your wife and remaining children are homeless dick suckers! Because YOU ARE RIGHT! WAS IT WORTH IT?
All you care about is tearing others down because you need to be right at the cost of looking at facts and truth? You need to protect You’re ego. You have to be right even though You’re wrong. To top it off you stoop so low to point out spelling fat fingering? I guess if I misspell two plus to equals four makes it incorrect? Due to misspelling? In your eyes if someone makes a spelling mistake NOTHING THEY SAY HAS ANY TRUTH TO IT? Does that mean when my Drivers License expirees I no longer know how to drive a car? I just forget? I become a complete driving idiot? Just because my License expired? Or does it just mean I need to renew my license for Johnny Law, and get taxed more by

Eric

1/25/2015 01:45:26 pm

Scott,
I personally love the show and love your theories. I always find it interesting that people criticize those who go out on a limb and propose new ideas. It is academically necessary for theories to be proposed early, when blazing a trail, in order to generate acceptance in the scientific community, and to generate interest from peers to prove or disprove the theory or gain acceptance. That is what you are doing. You are putting it out there where people can see it. This is part of the process I guess though. I've been fascinated with the responses below and am discouraged by the negativity. It is after all entertainment... But love that you are generating fascinating theories and exposing history and theories that aren't necessarily mainstream. And, that is ok! Great show!

Eric

P.s. I hold an M.Ed. if that gives me any more credibility to the nay sayers.

Louis Sheffield

1/26/2015 02:39:32 am

Scott, what matters is that you get people excited about history and science. That's awesome. These people are fact junkies. So here's a fact. Cavalito, Tara and Richard LaFortune are all assholes. Thank you Scott for your efforts.

Linda

1/30/2015 11:05:42 am

Who cares if you have a handy dandy ulta-degree. You know what you are doing in forensic geology. I remember growing up and the cave on a part of the property was used for the Underground Railroad. Ohio/Pa border. My Dad never wanted the yard dug up! After the incident, I was hooked on geology and history. Whatever you are doing to create and feed into an exciting past time......KEEP IT UP!!! CONGRATULATIONS!

Mimi

1/31/2015 11:28:19 pm

Wow, I like the show but now I'm shocked. 1- SFWolter can provide his credentials. I think that would put all the education to rest. 2- one thing I believe to be the truth is; history is NOT what we've been taught.

Mimi

1/31/2015 11:32:23 pm

Here's something to ponder... Why aren't we allowed on government land? Does that land not belong to us? Regardless if we could get hurt. What ever happened to personal responsibility? Ya'll keep a pushin for more big government, soon they will be at your dinner table, literally!

sean

2/13/2015 02:37:48 pm

scott I think its clear with the stolen bolder thare are freemason members possably the core of the group or something closer to the origine that comes from the disbanded Templars that is hard at work today to keep thare secrets possably living proff of offspring from not so godly jesus with a great deal of power in the united states
I have fallowed what you have for a body of evidence now if have seen things on my own unrecorded adventure across the country as it looks from your show a lot have dune before 1492 but more importantly thare are things I have seen that cannot be explained as anything other than what I would stand behind not joking that we are in the united states of the Templar order and you may find your self as a page of Templar mistry with too menny bullet holes with that said I ask did you even go for a scholarship I for one didn't but why do I have questions for the so called real experts that I should have with a tom Clancy spook book
it looks like classic game of control of information when I see things that are not in my high school books or stuff the real experts say
I ask about these things that are older than 1492 that are here and all I get is nothing that's a real spook response and it rages me people cant see that it makes me only want more not less hell I have not even seen a scholars reason for completely ignoring possible evidence simply because it would prove unrecorded venture across amarica and must say if it can happen today it should be investigated as to who did in the past
the real question should be how can the experts call themselves experts it does not even look like thay even hike

dave francis

2/14/2015 03:03:07 pm

Scott. Her bigger point was that it is clearly much more important for you to be found correct in your sometimes outlandish theories..and this is a clear sign of your egomania. I realize that sometimes in order to have a voice you need an assertive demeanor...but straight up in your face in clear violation of the scientific method is no way to ensure your place among the scholars. The show tells me that just like a Bigfoot chaser or UFO enthusiast...you tend to embrace any leads or ideas that enhance your own sense of dirrction. Also..to lie about your credentials immediately nullifies you from any name of scientist and reduces you to what you truly are. ..an entertainer and fraudster hiding under the long established skirts of the scientific method and those who have actually earned the right to voice their opinions.

John Baxter

2/27/2015 12:05:48 am

The smartest men in history didn't rely on a Vatican education. Scholastic memorizing does nothing for society but to be a better slave to the system. People like Scott are breaking out from being a slave. No one will teach you because they don't want you to learn. In fact most of the stolen records sit below the Vatican and for thousands of years thats where the worlds knowledge is. Thats why they control religion and every other part of our life. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates didn't finish college. Are you going to discredit them? College means nothing in this world, just that you were a slave to an education system that is meant to enslave ordinary man. Tara, there are no archaeologist that could fit your concept of what an archaeologist is. The will simply follow academia and discredit anyone. Tara your world is still flat youre living in an ancient time where knowledge was not given to you. Again Scott its not the critic you counts but the man in the arena. I would take this as haters trying to knock you off your horse.

Good Job Scott!

SonofMan

2/27/2015 11:11:25 pm

We need to speak Scott...meet me on facebook Sonof Mankind look for the ribbon.

fanowolter

3/1/2015 02:47:34 pm

You tell em scott! Love the show and youre work! I have a suggestion to silence all your critics and naysayers. This is what i do. Im frequently contacted by individuals in my line of work that want me to send them my resume ALONG w references. In the past, ive done this a few times to only be then given further runaround or not hear anything at all. My solution? Now when i'm contacted i say SURE! Id LOVE to send you that info. Im gonna need $100.00 NON REFUNDABLE to do it. Since youre now famous (which is a big reason why i suspect youve acquired naysayers) you could charge, hell, $1000.00 if you want????? Its amazing to me you find out VERY quickly who is a jackass wasting your time or who is actually willing to put their money where their mouths are... CHEERS! keep up the good stuff!!!

Zacarias Valles link

3/3/2015 08:39:30 pm

You come off as a sensationalist reporter. I think most of your stuff is made up along with other people that think like you. I believe you know very little about true history but I do believe you got the capitalist way of thinking nailed. That's right you don't have to be very smart. You just have to figure out how to take people for a ride for.

Rick Tobin

3/6/2015 10:49:35 am

Please contact me regarding the Peralta stones. You got snookered....but I have something else that might pique your interest.

Scott

3/14/2015 01:31:20 pm

First off, I don't think that comment is actually Scott Wolter. Secondly, either way he has a degree, and most things in life are learned and based off of experience, education only takes you so far. He is one of the more legitimate scientists out there correcting history. You cannot tell me you believe everything that was pushed down our throats from the same couple publishers who publish their own opinions as history. Draw your own theories in life, don't try to put others down and disprove people. If you spent your time trying to develop your own thoughts and theories instead of putting others down it would be much more beneficial.

Dave J.

3/19/2015 08:40:35 am

Well, I can't say I'm intelligent enough to dispute Scott's findings. Although, my wife and I find the program entertaining, interesting, makes us think of what could be and what may be. Some of the most outrageous breakthrough's in science have been made by people who just asked questions. Many without Phd's, MS, BS or AS even. Now give Scott a break peeps. He has come out with some interesting questions and brought out some great personalities. With everyone commenting on this site 'negatively mostly' as I have scanned. Obviously Scott has at the very least has a following. More then many people have. And Scott doesn't defame, comment negatively to or about others. Just listen and enjoy the show at the very least. IF you think Scott is a 'con artist' or perhaps worse, the just don't watch the show, simple! " Let Ye with NO SIN cast the first stone! " ... I'm guessing as I read the comments that there are many 'virgins' without any sin! ?
I thank you for your time. Dave!

Dolores

3/30/2015 11:11:41 pm

Hang in there Scott..your program is enjoyable and informative!

Zacarias Valles III

3/31/2015 12:15:11 am

Wow if that is great intellect the world is fucked.

lynette doss

6/5/2015 05:01:00 am

Are you people serious, you all talk about how dumb scott wolter is, yet you beleive heacrually responded toyour comments lol

Timothy E. Graham, MD link

6/8/2015 05:15:38 pm

Scott:
I stumbled upon this thread which remarkably has played-out over a year or more. I don't care about your level of formal training. I am a physician-scientist. I have first-author published highly cited papers in Nature and in the New England Journal of Medicine. I say this only to indicate that I am not a fringe scientist. I have followed your show, and read some of your books. You are thoughtful and, to my sensibilities, exhibit a reasonable level of scientific skepticism. I started my career in liberal arts, studying philosophy and literature, and eventually wended my way into medicine and science. I am currently a professor of medicine, and was an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School. Having taught students for over 20 years and having trained numerous individuals who have gone on in their careers to be doctors and highly successful scientists, I can tell you something about what it means to be a scientist. Its not about credentials. Its about the pure will to discover the truth. Consider Charles Best, the medical student who was the main driving force behind the discovery of insulin, a compound which has utterly changed the practice of medicine and the lives of millions of people -- Charle Best was a student-assistant ot Banting, but it was his cleverness, his "thinking-out-of-the-box", his genuinely pure intellect that drove the project forward. Banting himself acknowledges this. In the end, the Nobel prize went to Banting and the guy who lent them their lab space in the Biochem department at Toronto. But everyone remembers Banting and Best. No one will forget Best - his name is synonymous with this discovery. So, my message is this -- ignore these doubters and do your work. You are a thoughtful, critical scientist, regardless of your level of formal academic credentialing. These credential really don't matter -- in the end you either have a provable hypotheses or an unprovable hypotheses, and Science (with a capital "S") doesn't care who is doing the proving/disproving.

Keep the faith. Keep challenging the scientific establishment.

Ps. as regards commercialization - please, no one reading this should fool themselves... science is commercial in nature -- getting new ideas out there requires marketing, and if you can paid in the process of marketing your ideas to the world, then you are doubly succesful. Scott-your show is reasonable, interesting, and fun to watch. Keep it up!

Sharon Anderson

7/8/2015 09:27:35 am

I believe in you. Da Vinci code. I'm from Ohio and seen serpent mounds many times. My grandfather was a free Mason and active in mtngs. Grandma was an Eastern Star. But never talked about it. Never knew what it was about. A boyfriend of mine, we were 19 at the time, was seeking to get into Masons, as his father had been one, but died when my friend was 12. Friend went to "classes" and had someone "introduce, or recommend" he enter. Saw his public coronation or whatever it's called. Once accepted he never spoke of it. This was in 1966. All these things interest me, because of correlations in my life.

Helene

7/30/2015 06:05:44 am

Hello Scott,

I live in Montreal, and I recently discovered your show on history Canada and I loved it.
I find your show very interesting I can't wait to see your show and that's i much I like it. You are very interresting to listen to and this makes me want to learn more and more about your investigations. Keep the good work. P.S. I hope that your show will go on for may years.

All the Best!!!

Helene

A. Hick

8/3/2015 12:09:08 pm

What's scary is that Minnesota gives out "professional geologist" licenses to someone with only a Bachelor's degree. This raises a question of how many states are that lax in licensing geologists, or is the field of "professional" geology (as opposed to academic geosciences) not equivalent to the fields of history or archeology? I can tell you that under no standard is a BA acceptable for consideration as a "professional" historian or archeologist.

Raymond D. Howard

8/13/2015 03:41:48 am

Scott,

I have followed the program America Unearthed, and while its rivaled here, on the issue of academia, and degrees, I may have my concerns there, but I have known so many people with illustrious degrees, their theories to pose yours pseudo-archaelogy don't prove themselves always better. Personally, assuming you are the real Scott Wolter whom responded here on Colovito's website, you would have access in Hollyweird my person being my treatments that are legend... "Underground" while having been seen world wide per the cover up stories, being Mel Gibson's, the Passion, and Dan Brown's, the da Vinci Code, really being the treatment as found the sources of Omni Magazine, the Cryptex, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, Rossylin Chapel, Newton and da Vinci a given their heresies, with Apple the code of example of urban legend over such gravity. Reader's Digest the account in the Passion of what is a crucifixion, unfortunately being at the time although I did already consider the let of the thorax a thoracotomy, and the bitters of gall the forensics presently of Peter Cresswell, I was following Barbar Thiering for access the concerns of Aramaic. The issue there, much like National Geographic, Science Magazine, and Discover, etc., the average skull type of the period doesn't match what most Christians expect, Renaisance paintings of Jesus. The Aramaic crucial... being just the Renaisance paintings alone, that the average person until recently tend to regard the Kings english as pro typed recently being not the original King's english of James, that somehow before its verbiage was established thus spoke Jesus if he ever existed at all.

Did I have a degree when I put these forensics as such together? NO! Can I validate my claim outside your access to TV producers like Harve Bennett or Mel Brooks for that matter? NO! Can I produce more than my AA from CHC or BA degree from ITT? NO! But facts of crypto history, what the public doesn't know... where it should matter to them unbeknownst what elsewise Hollywood knows, they will remain clueless.

So, thanks for the program in spite of the derisions you hear. Allot of people don't get it how geology fits in, with radiometry, much less chemistry the tests. Rune stones their specious? Frankly the only concern there... Wicca unless an archaeologist combined philologist what are they practicing? Minnesota students studying runes creating a hoax? Seems they need their degrees taken away, not encouraged their pranks. About the Mason symbol though... of the X with truss... its Hebrew for Aleph as most anyone knows whom cares... http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Aleph/aleph.html

David

9/9/2015 12:12:28 pm

Scott u keep it up history is not what it seems ,history changes everyday people like u standing up and saying wait this is not right and when u say wait a minute it encourages other people to prove u wrong to me this encourages science real science keep it up look forward to learn more from u...good luck

Krisi

9/16/2015 04:33:15 pm

Once upon a time, the world was flat. Once upon a time the sun revolved around the earth. Once upon a time we were the entire cosmos.
Yes, Scott is going against mainstream. And that bothers these mainstream scholera because then everything will have to be re-written and they will no longer be considered at the top of their field any longer. If any of you think a slip of paper means you are smarter than someone without it, you haven't heard of many of our smartest scientists in the world. Einstein wasn't considered intelligent because his mind was so advanced that he tried to use algebraic form for simple addition and subtraction. So many of our great minds were scoffed at until recognized post-humus.
I for one, don't care if there is a PhD involved or not. I care about the questions being asked. History has been printed based on singular thoughts by singular people making it legend and not fact. Robert Wuhl said it best, " When legend becomes popular, they print the legend-not the facts". Keep going, Scott. Many of us will back you 100% for asking the difficult questions and not succumbing to the weight of all the naysayers.

Gary--Retired NYPD

9/19/2015 09:05:45 pm

Scott---Once a "Liar" always a "Liar"---once You "Lie" about "Little Things" ie "Phony Honorary Diploma" You tend too always lie about the Big Stuff---I am surprised that the "History & Discovery" channels did not "Fire Your Ass" for lieing too them & the public

Michelle

10/17/2015 10:17:03 am

You all fail to recognize that degrees seldom have anything to do with intelligence and more to do with opportunity, financial ability, and the time that is also generally afforded also with financial ability and of course support from family. Some have been fortunate enough to have these things. I know many that would beat people with a Masters degree on an intelligence test, but don't even have an Associates degree. As for Mr. Colter, he seems to be very intelligent in my opinion.

Krisi

10/17/2015 01:33:58 pm

I believe drive and commitment means more than a slip of paper. I don't have a master's and I have an IQ of 160. I would put my intelligence up against anyone that has a piece of paper saying they studied one or two things. Life teaches us more than schooling can. That being said, I believe going to school does make you knowledgeable about certain things a layman like myself could benefit from. Scott has proven to me, personally, to be all he needs to be to do what he does. One thing I believe in is passion. It can take you further than many things.
And for the gentleman that wants to act as if one typo is in anyway a relevance on Scott's intelligence I feel bad that you had to knit pick on one individual word or sentence. It is my experience most intentionally mistype. But if you want to think that one word is enough to be blatantly disrespectful towards a man I seem to know better than you? You have a lot to learn about life. Don't judge a book by its cover when you haven't even taken it off the shelf to see what's inside.

Eric Mosby

10/18/2015 12:08:09 am

Scott,
Love the show. Keep up the good work. Regardless of what uneducated skeptical wise asses say.

Krisi

10/18/2015 02:09:01 am

Gooch, once upon a time, the world was flat. And ONE man said differently and was proclaimed insane. Once upon a time the sun circled earth. But once again, this was misproven.
Many of the men and women that have done wonderful things were not recognized during their lives because the main stream thought it too radical to believe. Now so any hundreds of years later, we know those very same people to be right.
So if someone is swimming upstream to try and prove something they ate passionate about, I say KUDOS to that person. We should question what we have been told. As history has been eskewed to be what others want us to believe. Just in our life times we have seen this. In Vietnam and the Iraq wars. They were over resources. Not out of an inane responsibility for justice. Otherwise we never would have stepped foot in Vietnam and we would have went after Bin Laden. Not Hussein.
And these are just a couple of the cases where " spin doctoring" has occured. The media doesn't help.
I say good for Scott Wolter and anyone else that questions history
I have questioned it since a young girl. Just look at the telephone game. If that can become changed with just 25 people think what hundreds and thousands of years can make.

Ge Ki

10/18/2015 09:27:06 am

Krisi - So happy for you that you have a "personal" relationship with Wolter, but the issue here is not "a slip of paper." The issue, which you'll see in the title of this page, is that Wolter lied about his credentials.

I fully agree with your statement "We should question what we are told." But you refuse to apply that rule to your personal friends like Wolter. If you have a personal relationship with them, they can crap all over the truth and you don't care. Your "IQ of 160" means nothing if you don't put it to good use, and you'll never put it to good use if you lack the morality to reject lies and liars. Your personal relationship with Wolter is irrelevant. The first rule of research is to be honest. Experimental results can be easily faked, so a researcher must be trusted in order to be believed. Wolter has proven that he cannot be trusted. And by taking his side and excusing the lie, based on your personal relationship, you have proven yourself unable to view his work with the impartiality required to accurately judge it. By siding with the liar, you have become untrustworthy. But cheer up - it is obvious from Wolter's show that there is a market for BS. Maybe you'll find your fortune there.

Ron L.

10/24/2015 05:10:16 pm

Scott. I know dome of the decendents of the St.Clairs who lived aroind the Tucson, Az area. There is apparently still some land that passed down. I have heard all my life about their French roots.

charles

10/27/2015 03:56:26 pm

Scott, why don't you tell everyone you are a jew before saying you are presenting unbiased evidence?

Bill

11/9/2015 02:55:11 pm

Well Scott as an archaeologist working for federal land management agencies for the last 18 years, w/ real degrees in Anthropology (that would mean, degrees that I actually worked for), as well as a minor in geology from the very same UMD program you went to, I'd have to say after all these years studying and working at archaeology, you need quite a bit of smarts to be adequate. Quite a bit.

Kind of like data, to make archaeological assertions about major migrations or logistically complicated forays or resource extraction expeditions deep into unknown areas... or cross oceans. You need quite a bit. Hundreds, if not thousands of sites and thousands if not tens of thousands of accurately provenienced artifacts w/ clearly demonstrable contexts.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" as they say. You're going to promote major changes in two-plus centuries of heavily evidence-backed archaeological knowledge you WILL come up w/ tons of data and demonstrable analysis of that data in order to even get close to approximating the new generalization or confirming and extraordinary hypothesis. In science you have no choice. It's not for the intellectually lazy.. or the well paid shill... or profitably promoted, disrespectful, anti-science bad-boy.

But you know that.

However I will say you do have smarts of a kind. It requires a level of "entrepreneurial creativity" to put together a lucrative television show that promotes psuedo-science to an uneducated public. Maybe not THAT much in smarts but some creativity is necessary to pull the wool over so many eyes and straight up lie to a woefully uninformed public. I'd also say a very cynical outlook on rationalism is necessary, coupled w/ a major disrespect of science. I've been dying to know.. did all that come from poor grades in Min-Pet? Did O.J. or J.C. doc you on too many lab quizzes? Were you one of the unfortunates that mis-identified the black plagioclase sample, like me? I wonder when it was that you lost your way? And why? Was it all just for the money? Do you actually believe that the Templars or the Nine from Mordor dropped that farmer's forgery in that field? Where are the other Templar sites? Pre-Columbian? There should be Templar or European medieval artifacts in all those hundreds of thousands of meticulously excavated archaeology sites that date from the late prehistoric periods in eastern North America? The St. Lawrence River? There should be some that wound up as trade or battle-booty in early Iroquoian sites, Mississippian sites, Oneota from such an expedition. Along their route. Yet. There are none. And none, from a sampling universe that may well be in the millions? Smarts indeed. What you lack in smarts in a basic knowledge of scientific method or even rudimentary data analysis. Or maybe it's just too much work for you. It's easier to show hig-tech analytical machinery at work on a television show or put on some smarmy, petulant towards an established archaeological researcher on T.V. in very heavily edited shots, than spend years and years pouring over and analyzing archaeological data and putting in hundreds of hours of painstaking excavation and survey work to try and understand the complicated, irreducible archaeological record even a little bit. Again... work involved.

Thank the gods we've got old Scotty to XRF a rock and tell us how empires rise and fall, and once again, how apparently inept all those indigenous cultures were at cultural evolution.

So... petulant, lazy and racist. But... you can figure out how to turn a trick for a buck and bamboozle an audience. That's gotta count for something Scott. Your mom must be proud seeing your show.

Charles

11/9/2015 11:52:05 pm

Thx Bill; response from Scott?

Rose McDonald

11/21/2015 01:30:05 pm

Scott;
Maybe one doesn't have to be exceptionally smart to investigate archaeological mysteries, but it helps an awful lot if one is honest, especially about one's education and work experience.

Adam

12/12/2015 07:18:04 pm

Am I seriously the only one that doesn’t think this is actually Scott? Cheers for sticking up for him, but I really don’t think Scott would make that many clerical errors; even if he was angry. I highly doubt he would get angry over this article, especially due to how many times he’s been told he’s wrong. He probably just laughed and dismissed it, giving it little thought. Even so, that would suggest that he actually knows about it. I for one am not so closed minded as to think his theories have no validity. Science does prove science wrong all the time. Most people, I find, that disagree with at least the possibility of his claims, simply don’t like to think that they might be wrong.

William Harvey

12/13/2015 12:40:27 am

I think you're very smart Scott. I've learned so much from you that encouraged me to do more research. I'm allegedly a smart guy because I have a BA and MA.

AFan, Bill

you can "find things on the . . . ." Smart enough to know grammar when you write your own stuff instead of relying on someone else. I have learned so much from America Unearthed. I have to give Mr. Wolter credit for brining controversal concepts to the p

1/25/2016 04:32:42 pm

Diana Lee-McAnsh

1/28/2016 11:42:28 am

I watch your show, interesting information comes out of it, and I see places I do not have the money to visit. Have known some truly intelligent people who did not have a degree, however their personal research/conclusions were compelling. You do say you are a forensic geologist which is unfortunate because I'd find your interest, research and ability to visit sites enough to watch your show.

Diana Lee-McAnsh

1/28/2016 11:53:32 am

It's unfortunate that in our society one has to have a PhD in order to satisfy the requirement of study, research and investigation into a subject. I'd much rather watch a program where the person has a genuine interest rather than a PhD with an attitude of enlightenment, example Zahi Hawass a dogmatic, whose attitude is set in stone, who refuses to acknowledge new information or pioneer new research.

Paula Nesiba

1/29/2016 05:03:52 pm

You tell her Scott!! We love you and your show! Alot of people gain knowledge from their passion, and we gain alot from your passion!!!! Thank you!

Barry

2/4/2016 03:24:22 am

I love the H2 show and Scott's investigations into history.

bennett

2/12/2016 12:34:42 pm

Scott were is your program in 2016 ?

Steve

2/24/2016 07:09:31 pm

Jealousy motivates life losers to opine until they feel better.

Daniel link

2/25/2016 06:49:05 pm

Hey Scott. Ignore these guys. As I know you are. I love your down to earth view of reality in my opinion. Wish I could help what an amazing adventure. Good luck and I believe you can change history.

Working class stiff

3/30/2016 12:24:15 am

Albert Eistein failed math (acueman/academic math) but on reflecting on other mathemacians' papers and letters - well his story is also history. Or will you prove he failed to be what he claimed as well? Many people of walks of life accomplished their (our) greatest works withoout your, or an accredited schools' approval. We can always review their claims too if you insist. But, for me, after considering my observations of tens of thousands of new photos of earth and lost documents, suspect we should focus on digging up historical facts,,,, not dirt to slander someone doing good.

john ford link

4/24/2016 03:45:53 pm

Don't let the B@@@@@@s grind you down, Scott. Y9u do a good job on that show, and if you have no right to be there, then Obama, born in Kenya and financed and appointed by the CRIMINALS (LIKE MOST OF HIS PREDECESSORS) had no right to be President.
I defy anyone to fault Scott's delivery of the TV program, he does an excellent job. There are people on TV who play to (as indeed they are ordered to) the lowest common denominator. By the way, there are plenty of dumb asses who come out of university with degrees, and, who think they are educated, but are not! The first sign if that, is thinking that DAILY COMICS are actually Newspapers!! Enough said: keep up the good work, Scott. I look forward to more shows by you, and by the way, if you are thinking of coming to the UK for a tour or whatever, , let me know I will make sure you have one or two venues where you can give a talk.
Cheers mate,
John

Paul Kearney

5/16/2016 10:42:00 am

Scott do not let these people let you down, because therehave been far more discoveries/inventions created by those who never got the pat on the back a degree actually is. By the time I graduated high school I had plenty of college credits already, and two years in the armed forces, a Governors scholar, etc, blah, blah. The first thing I learned about college and university smarts is it will rarely translate into 12 inches beyond the door out. I mean Dubya graduated from an ivy league school. In the real world, doing real things, for the love of that knowledge sought, that is how the magic happens.

Nelda Smith

5/17/2016 02:23:52 pm

I don't care about any of this silliness over "Honorary Degrees"! America Unearthed is an amazing program and I cannot wait for the next season! Thank you, Scott Wolter for providing decent, thought provoking entertainment! I give a an A+!

Blayne

6/18/2016 04:41:16 pm

What do you know about the petradox stone?

Meredith Landers

10/20/2016 02:40:29 am

It amazes me how much time people must have on their hands. Why else would have the spare time to be so concerned with whether someone has an honorary degree or not. Who cares? I honestly can't fathom why it's of any consequence to anyone, especially if they don't even know you, and aren't directly impacted by the validity of lack thereof, of such information. Wow! The internet has apparently created experts on most ANYTHING under the sun, as well as commentators on just as many subjects! How intriguing that some of the people on this site are experts in not just one, but multiple disciplines: Education, Geology, Vocabulary, and perhaps even nails, just to name a few that stood out in just the first few posts! Just for fun, I thought I would point out that the use of the word "found", can be that of verb or adjective, which obviously changes not only the spelling of, but also the meaning. So, before someone slams someone in a way that calls into question the intelligence of the other person, it may behoove them to recognize that they, in fact, are the one's that will be highlighting their own, or lack thereof, if they ate incorrect in their attack. My real point though, is simply to reflect my astonishment of how many people spend their time trying to tear someone down, or even worse, perhaps try to damage the professional reputation of another, despite not gaining a thing by doing so. If you don't like the show, or feel that you cannot trust the subject matter reflected by host, turn the channel & get a life! Don't you people have anything better to do with your time & energy? I never had any reason to have to occupy so much time, before having surgery. I could have lived my whole life without seeing how much time people apparently like to spend attacking someone, instead of going out & investing all of their energy in things that further their own success. Generally, behavior such as this is reflective of one's own lack of pride in their own accomplishments, or self-esteem. So, one may want to consider what they are actually revealing about themselves, the next time they may feel compelled to launch their next attack on someone who is simply minding their own business, making a living. Personally, I have seen the show few times, and what I found to be most interesting & compelling, was the realization that not everything we are told is necessarily factual, and we should challenge the validity of any history that may have been inaccurately reported for one reason or another. The show simply seems to encourage & even compel intelligent people, with a thirst for knowledge, to continue learning about the very foundation of this great country-quite literally, the foundation. That should not be threatening to anyone! At worst, nothing in the show could be true. If that were the case, no harm done. So, what on earth is the big deal? What could possibly be SO important, as to require someone to write an entire blog, solely dedicated to the disparaging remarks about one human being? If people spent half as much time & energy toward making a living & improving the lives of their families, they would have a whole lot more to show for their lives, at the very end of it. I've NEVER heard of anyone saying, on their death bed, how they wish they had spent more time & energy criticing people whom weren't in the least bit impacted by them whatsoever. I for one, cannot wait to go back to work, and back to the world of oblivion to all things unimportant. I just happened to run across this website because I had a genuine interest in learning a little more about Forensic Geology, simply because I have become friends with a Geologist, and wanted to become more knowledgeable about the subject, so we could have more interesting conversations! I never knew that the study of ROCKS could bring out the worst in people! Personally, I would think one may be about as dumb as a box of rocks, to think this warrants so much misspent time & energy, if I were one to judge other people's intelligence, based on the lack of logic & productivity expressed therein. I can only say in conclusion, however, that when we know better, we do better. That being said, perhaps, those who have made a habit of wasting time & energy attacking people they don't even know, will have found a much more fulfilling & valuable hobby. One can only hope.

Karen

10/30/2016 04:55:26 pm

Someone always has to put their 2 cents in there. I like what he has to say. Makes me interested and I can understand it. So whether he has credentials or not, he has drawn me into the history channel. Thanks Scott!

Dave C

11/10/2016 01:56:21 am

"Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the life-long attempt to acquire it." - Albert Einstein

Go Scott!

Heather Green

11/10/2016 12:37:42 pm

Scott, as a scientist who spent many years in the entertainment world, I know you have little control over the content and editing of your show. I found the show to be fun and a source of information that I wasn't aware of before. I don't really care about anything else, as I never allow a television show, created for entertainment, to be my sole source of information. (Which would explain why I'm back in graduate school at age 54!) Thanks for some fun adventures!

D Mack

11/23/2016 09:09:46 am

Just now checking this string... Well it's like the Sun rises in the East, Sets in the West.... Geo-archealogy explains itself..... As do stones tell the story. Hang in pal! Never stop asking NEW QUESTIONS. Hopefully, this really is you. Rock on!

Barbara link

5/31/2017 01:12:38 pm

Mr. Scott Wolter ~ I just hope this response reaches you as I do wish to commend you on one thing.....believing in something that goes beyond that which has been written and given to us to believe. My curious and doubting mind began to question many things when I was quite young {actually grade school when I "suggested" not all the Indians come over on the Berring Strait}. I was told by the astute teacher, what was in the history books was accurate and I was not to question.......That has been 60 some years ago and I still question and have learned not to believe all which was written or those "astute" teachers......You may not have perfect credentials or a perfect background, or the perfect ability, according to some, to "paint fingernails" but you raise questions and then set out to present evidence to support different schools of thought.....I have no artifacts for you to ponder over but I have a mind that has questioned many things for many years and your research has given me some satisfaction in many areas......I thank you...

Diane Diehld link

5/31/2017 04:07:03 pm

Scott..I think your shows terrific and you have inspired so many young children to venture into your field of study. Degrees cannot match one like you who inspire so many young to follow your steps! Continue your great work!

Cole Harber

4/14/2018 11:55:08 pm

Scott, I watch your show and I agree with u on everything. Unlike what others are saying I think your smart.

Arielle

8/21/2018 09:32:31 pm

I love seeing your responses on blog posts ! I find them all the time. A geologist with an attitude! Watching your show as we speak right here in Minnesota!

Meg

8/29/2018 12:46:25 pm

I love your show. Personally, I could care less about whether or not you have an honorary degree. Every time I watch your show you inspire me to learn more. I've even used inspiration from the Alamo episode in an essay in my Texas History course. Keep doing what you do. You aren't here to be a debate. You are here to educate and inspire.

Diana

1/25/2019 04:10:55 pm

I think Scott asks some very important questions that should be addressed - he is not providing difinitive answers to questions posed but rather opening up viewers minds to the possibilities. It is important to not always go along with the status quo - instead be the salmon that swims upstream, using one’s own intellect and openmindedness to explore possibilities....or is the earth still flat?

Best wishes Scott, my son and I both find your shows riveting - and far more detailed that other popular shows out there :)

Brent Holden West

1/31/2019 03:10:48 pm

Hi scott my name is brent west i am 32 yrs old. I am a iraq and afganistan war vet whom has been intrigued with history and researching it since I was just a little kid. I have personally followed your work for the last couple years and I must say I am also convinced there's a lot of Forgotten history simply due to man's violent nature and natural disaster. However I do believe the answers are out there I do believe in the idea that the Vikings discovered more of North America than we previously had believed. I am also deducted a lot of research on my own which I believe that the Knights Templar actually had derived from Vikings. I believe that the room Stone that is known as the Kensington runestone was in fact written by the nights of Christ who i belive are the descendants of the Templars after there fall in France the early 1300's. I have a whole lot more to add to this but I do not wish to share all of it over the internet at this time. If you would be intrested in hearing more of my theory sometime please feel free to give me a call at 515 571 1441. PS don't let people who don't understand the idea of having an idea and developing a theory and developing the truth what really happened with solid evidence in scientific method discourage you. There are a lot of people out there that are not as enlightened as others around them. God bless stay motivated and don't give up the truth is out there. Humanity's future depends on it understand where we're going as a people we must learn our past we have forgotten or in this case

Valinda Miller

2/14/2019 07:37:23 am

Calm down all....this is not an educational collegiate class. It is a show to raise an eyebrow to a further possibility to question what Mr Wolters and the show are telling us...who, what, where and why!
To possibly raise another question and to find another side to the story in a search of truths.
This show doesn’t make a difference to what degree anybody has, Mr. Wolters and producers are telling a story.... just my opinion.
I luv the show!

harry

4/22/2019 09:03:00 am

Scott
Personally I love the show. Remember, you cant please everyone.

Kim hobson

5/5/2019 08:39:00 pm

I believe in Scott as a sound, solid man of integrity. My grandparents, Lyman and Martha Hobson have a home at Templar Park, Spirit Lake, Iowa. They proved to me we were descendants of the Knight Templars, something I tried to dismiss. They were top leaders in Iowa. Scott has reinforced what they taught me.

Lane

5/15/2019 07:52:06 pm

The establishment drones are commanded to shout down those who don't drink the Kool-Aid. Tara is just one , having no real independent thought, she does as she is told.

Marie Marie Marie

5/21/2019 12:07:10 pm

Scott, I saw your program regarding Mayan Blue. You visited several Georgia sites. I wonder if you have ever visited Brasstown Bald. This is the historic marker. I find it interesting that the Cherokee words are so similar to Chichen Itza though the meanings do not appear similar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasstown_Bald#/media/File:Brasstown_Bald_Historical_Marker_-2.JPG

5/29/2019 06:50:36 am

Scott, I assume you dont read this blog anymore, and that is completely understandable. It's my first time seeing it, first time commenting and last time to be here, as I can see Jason is just a seething competitor poisoned by endless envy similar to seen in Amadeus, whether fact or elaboration.

Eg, Antonio Salieri
" Antonio Salieri (Italian: [anˈtɔːnjo saˈljɛːri]; 18 August 1750 – 7 May 1825) was an Italian[1] classical composer, conductor, teacher and rival of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. He was born in Legnago, south of Verona, in the Republic of Venice, and spent his adult life and career as a subject of the Habsburg Monarchy.

Salieri was a pivotal figure in the development of late 18th-century opera. As a student of Florian Leopold Gassmann, and a protégé of Christoph Willibald Gluck, Salieri was a cosmopolitan composer who wrote operas in three languages. Salieri helped to develop and shape many of the features of operatic compositional vocabulary, and his music was a powerful influence on contemporary composers." I hope we have all seen Amadeus.

But your above comment dear Scott, about how smart do you have to be is athlete's sarcasm at the wrong time with the wrong people. Jason obviously saw the error, which is a gaffe for sure!
Maybe less levity and wit on the blog sites and more in the office. Get back to your speelunking Indiana.

Robert Miller

6/3/2019 10:28:36 pm

Scott; Hey, I have enough brains for both of us. I am a true genetic Asperger's with a tested IQ of 180, I am descended from eight royal Nephilim bloodlines going back to Alexander the Great and king David of the Jews. I applaud the work that you do. I only have a BA degree and it is plenty. I have found that most scientists are clowns serving the perverted agenda of the Smithsonian, they know only what they have been taught, and most of that is wrong. You have the advantage of uncontaminated vision, you are willing to look afresh at things that have been explained away by the "experts". This makes you very dangerous to the powers that be, believe me they will stop at nothing to discredit you. False information is a weapon that has been used very successfully against the unwashed masses, you are threatening their monopoly on men's minds, watch your backside my friend. Let's talk sometime, I have lots of interesting theories based on a lifetime of research in many different fields. I am a complete racial mix, Miller is a Cherokee name, I am a direct descendent of Rollo, (Hrolf), William the conqueror. Henry II, Charlemagne, Alfred the great. Powhatan, etc.. I am a primitive weapons expert I write for the Backwoodsman magazine and wrote for Primitive Archer for several years. If you want to correspond lets use snail mail or something, many of my theories are hot , I have enemies too. I am 70 who knows how long I'll be here. Ha! Robert.

Bob Moore

12/8/2022 12:32:20 am

Scott,
I find many of your conclusions completely intriguing. Years ago, my freshman year in HS I got to do some summer school in Kampsville & Cahokia IL. I have always felt that there is a massive hole in American PreColumbian history. Your work and that of Graham Hancock begins to fill void with conclusions which could very well be true. I am a member of the LDS Church and feel redeemed in your findings as support for The Book of Morman. I hope you will get an opportunity to present your findings to BYU, they would be less critical and more open to the possibilities that your findings have some validity.

netgk

12/9/2022 11:17:11 pm

Bob Moore - Yes, I think lying Scott Wolter (faked his Ph.D.) would be a great match for the Mormon Church (Gold plates! Wish I could show ya, but oops! I lost'em!").

Bob Moore

12/10/2022 07:59:33 pm

Netgk..... I truly feel sorry for you... you have no faith thus no hope.... you attack individuals of faith, those of us who do NOT need empirical evidence to support our faith which spurs hope... as you bash LDS individuals I must ask, are you also anti-Semitic? are you anti-Catholic?

Your vitiolic hatred is quite apparent...

PS... my post was a question for Scott, not you

Ge Ki

12/19/2022 03:26:07 am

Bob Moore - I have plenty of faith. I just don't have faith in poorly supported things like religion. My faith is directly proportional to the evidence. So I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow, but even that could be wrong, so my faith in that is not 100%. I have practically zero faith in your Mormon myth, because there is practically zero evidence supporting it. If you don't value the ability to reason that your god supposedly gave you, that's going to cause you problems in life, and I have little doubt that it already has, whether you know it or not.

Besides, faith is not necessary for hope. I need not have faith that my car will start tomorrow in order to hope that it will. I have no faith that my mother will contact me after she dies, but I hope she will somehow do that. But somewhere along the line, I'm guessing you probably heard a self-serving preacher spout that line, "Without faith, there is no hope." And it sounded good to you, so you just swallowed it whole without stopping to think if it was really true. Again, you should resurrect your ability to reason, which you tossed in the trash the day you accepted religion.

Finally, to answer your questions, I am not anti-Semitic or anti-Catholic. I do not hate their practitioners just because they believe a certain way. But when they do bad things, like threaten kids with hell if they don't discard logic and believe what religionists tell them to believe, I find that dispicable. The religionists have no proof for what they are forcing down their kid's throat, yet they lie and claim it is fact. If it were fact, they would not need faith to believe it. So make up your mind - is your religion a fact, or is it a faith?

STEVE

7/12/2024 09:11:18 pm

I think it shows complete ignorance and it's almost laughable when PHD's try to explain how hunter gather's created structures that we, today, can't. Accepted science doesn't mean it's accurate, it means those who should open mindedly investigate alternative theories are too closed minded and arrogant to do so.

I care more about truth than which rich kid spent their parent's money to get a degree that is based on what they read from the work of others and no real footwork of their own.

Thomas Wolf

8/28/2024 07:56:08 pm

First of all I'd like to say thank you for your work Scott, I very much enjoyed the show and it acted as a foundation to keep me interested in geology while I pursued my STEM degree, top honors, two classes near perfect honors while taking care of my dying mother.

This also helped me develop a relationship with God after losing my mother to stage four cancer last January.

Additioally, I am looking to join the freemasons and am trying to locate a sect in my area, not far from Minneapolis in the La Crosse County, WI area.

I'm also a writer (former contract writer, present researcher) and typos happen to the best of us, nor do we care when some snob points it out. It's usually a false autocorrect on mobile anyway.

Sorry for the very late reply but I just entered the discussion!

A lot of college information is confidential and I wouldn't expect to find honorary listings next to typical listings.

Even if you had no degree you more than demonstrated you have vast geological knowledge, and in no way attempted to re-write history all on your own. You gave people information and your interpretation of it was amazing.

What they do with that information is up to them, but ad hominem attacks on your character do not make them superior to you, or anyone else.

I wish they had kept the show going. Maybe I'll get lucky enough to brush shoulders with you in the future and I'd be happy to write about it.

I guarantee my blog will get more views than this rag. The guy only has 8,000 followers on Twitter, I have half that many on a cryptocurrency blog platform with a global audience that is inactive and I've worked with people all the way to the top in FinTech/Blockchain.

However, that is not my passion. I am however in love with field and lab work!

If it wasn't for positive influences such as yourself I probably wouldn't even be alive, let alone enjoying a new-found relationship with God while maintaining scientific beliefs.

Jason can't seem to detect sarcasm and it's clear he is gaslighting for views. That's some low-level, shameful stuff in the writing world.

If at all possible, let me know where you got your jewelers loupe from the show, I want one.

Best wishes to you and yours & keep up the good work!

Dave King link

10/29/2024 08:17:23 pm

Dear "Scott".....
I find the grammar in your response to be....of some concern. "I'm probably not as smart as they make out to be."? "I can found things on the Kensington Rune Stone...."? Really?
Is this the response of a scholar?

Respectfully,
Dave

Donald Keyes link

3/15/2013 04:18:43 am

This has happened to me. I hold a Masters degree or B.S. in Computer Science from Weber State University. I have main degree that I received in a little tie handed to me via graduation day and have copies of my transcripts. So this is not uncommon.

Aaron

5/20/2013 02:53:37 am

I hate to have to break it to you, but a B.S. is a Bachelor's degree, not a Master's degree.

Michael J

11/25/2013 07:37:55 pm

So you have a B.S. in computer science ? Lol !

Peter

12/15/2013 02:20:17 pm

That's nothing, I have a B.S. in Building Sciences (Rensselaer) - which makes that... drumroll please, a "BS in BS".

Robert Goodyear

1/26/2015 01:19:17 am

".... Masters degree OR BS..."

Which is it? It seems to me to be BS.

As I have said repeatedly, I took a course in Geology while in Community College, therefore, I am a Geologist.

Dean Thomas

4/27/2013 09:35:44 pm

OK, I have reads a bit on here, Jason, if you wish to downplay his finds, get out there and prove anything he has found wrong, in other words, shut off your computer, get out from behind your desk and investigate his finds, I find the show very interesting and I couldn't really care less enough to waste my time trying to discredit him, take a look at one of the more "respected" people in the field Zahi Hawas, there is a prime example of a "professional" attempting to not let people know the truth, I am a fairly intelligent person, I don't feel the need to attempt to prop myself up[ by posting how many pieces of paper I have bought, I watch the show for it's interesting content, not for someones credentials, seems like Jason and Tara have nothing better to do than be pissed off about someone's success that they wish they could achieve. Like I said, I find his show entertaining and informational.

Jason Colavito link

4/27/2013 11:31:36 pm

So the 60,000 words I spilled on this blog evaluating each episode of the show didn't do it for you? How exactly does one "disprove" non-existent finds? The Tucson Artifacts, for example, don't even say in their own inscriptions what Wolter claims they do. I translated one from Latin to show this. Is that enough for you? I searched the Jefferson archives for his alleged "mandate" to Meriwether Lewis to find Welsh Indians, and it doesn't exist. Is that enough for you? I visited Mystery Hill (America's Stonehenge) and saw for myself how the site has been rebuilt and fabricated in the 1930s. Is that enough for you?

Why do you think it's personal against Scott Wolter? As you should be able to see from my Ancient Aliens reviews, I am just as harsh on pseudoscience on other shows. It just happens that this one is built on a single personality.

terry the censor

4/28/2013 07:28:40 pm

@Dean Thomas
> I find his show entertaining and informational

Right on, bro! So you agree with me that "Rocky and Bullwinkle" is both a hugely entertaining cartoon and an ongoing experiment in interspecies symbiosis! Ya! And anyone who says different should power down their soma bong and get out from behind their bey blades and go out there in the field and prove me wrong!!!

Righteous!

REFERENCES

Ray B. Browne, Pat Browne (eds.): The Guide to United States Popular Culture (2001)

John Haiman: Talk Is Cheap: Sarcasm, Alienation, and the Evolution of Language (1998)

David L. Spess: Soma: The Divine Hallucinogen (2000)

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/14/2013 02:20:39 pm

Yes ...

The H2 TV shows taken all together are of varying and uneven quality ... but they're ALL interesting and well produced ... SOME are based on VERY good (and well-accepted conventional facts and accounts) ... while others are highly speculative to the point of being sci-fi fantasies ...
The "America Unearthed" shows have genuine value in stimulating discussion and thinking about possibilities ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/14/2013 02:20:54 pm

Wil Cymbrl

11/30/2013 02:03:51 pm

How interesting. I'm sure you realize that the burden of proof is on the person making the assertion. It's nobody's responsibility to disprove Scott Wolter's assertions, but rather the entire burden of proof is upon him to prove his argument.

Jason Rumsey

2/22/2014 04:40:40 am

I agree completely. Why would someone be so upset over something so trivial is beyond me. I have never said I have a degree but I will tell people I have well over 150 credit hours towards a degree from a University not a community college. The reason I don't have one is because of the numerous concussive blasts I have been in have caused sever Traumatic Brain Injury and I can no longer function the way I did before my deployments but that is not to say that I don't still try.

Rockin’ Rob

11/22/2014 11:00:42 am

I think Scott Wolter is hot!

Krisi

9/20/2015 09:52:29 am

Dean I feel the same. If he would quit sitting at his computer and get out there and prove Scott is wrong (I have studied another the last 30 years to know he isnt) then I might not laugh at this. This is one person sitting behind a computer filled with rage over his own inadequacy. He could get out there and do what Scott, myself or any other person that investigates, theorizes or probes, proves and disproves. But he'd rather spew hatred than truth. I say he's Catholic and can't stand the thought that Jesus led a regular life. He was wondrous and spectacular. But he was also a man.

Melinda

7/21/2013 03:27:43 pm

I'm commenting on original article, not on individual poster. If you were preparing a cogent court case, you would be ill-prepared. How familiar are you with websites vs. the 'brick and mortar' real world? They exist in two entirely different universes and a lack of communication would be a polite under-statement. It would surprise be not-at-all that discrepancies can and do exist. That is simply a fact of life. However, once we look at the specific Honorary Degree that Mr. Wolter claims to have received? Wow, I can easily imagine that in the very REAL brick and mortar world of Accadamia that it was considered merely a polite acknowledgement of a famous alumnus. The lack of official record presumably is an 'oversight', not dishonesty.

I have watched the show and seen that Scott seems to use proper experts as appriopriate. He doesn't try to over-reach. As far as his under-grad areas of expert ease, college grads are expected to continue learning after they graduate. It's called work experience. One is lucky enough to find mentors in the field they love.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/21/2013 03:54:55 pm

Your comments are very well thought out and even handed ...

CFC

7/21/2013 05:08:29 pm

I would recommend that you ask the University what they think of his claim.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/21/2013 05:17:48 pm

I don't know any of the University of Minnesota-Duluth Administrators, but I am personally and professionally acquainted with Professors Doctors Matsch and Ojakangas ... and I am not aware that they have been scolding Scott Wolter either in private or in public ...

So ...

Constance Overby

4/12/2014 04:57:04 am

I agree with you, the show is interesting and makes me want to do more research. It's never a good thing to close your mind to the ideas of others.

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 05:18:32 am

Melinda, you have no evidence to "presume" that the fault lies with the university and not with Wolter. Plus, Wolter himself says that the "honorary degree" consisted of a couple of faculty giving him cuppa coffees with whipped cream. Somehow, Wolter thought this would be OK to put on his resume as an honorary Master's degree conferred by the university. Anyone who has been in grad school, and most other people, would know this was a ridiculous claim. If you still disagree, show me one honorary degree that has been conferred by a cuppa coffee, or anything like it.

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 05:29:52 am

Constance, sometimes it is a good idea to recognize that an idea is wrong. The flat earth is just one example. I would guess that even you have closed your mind to that idea. Maybe "closing the mind" means assigning it an extremely low probability of being true, because accepted dogma could someday be overturned. So in the case of the flat earth, it's extremely unlikely to be true. So it is with Wolter's use of divining rods to locate a supposed "lost treasure." In his show, he refers to divining rods as "controversial," when in fact they have been debunked. And on Wolter's show, they again fail. And look at how much time and money he wasted based on what the divining rods "told" him. So if kids see this, they'll think divining rods are a legit tool of science. Pseudo-science is bad for kids. And bad for adults.

Brian Doon

10/27/2013 06:16:16 am

Scott Wolter on the money. Have you ever been to the Native mounds in GA? Long begfore I ever heard of Scott I was struck immediaely by how much the mounds were similar to pyramids in Mexico and Guatremala (whereI have been twice. Then I saw somee of the statues Georgia found on the sites. Amazing coincidence or linkage? I go with Scott and I do not care if his degree is from the P_atterson, NJ School of Business Practice. So much of his presentations have been very poignant. While I do not agree with all of his findings he at least raises the contradiction. Skeptics who have never been to these places should keep their opinions to themselves. They think reality is in books. Two hundred years from now what we accept as gospel truth in physics, geology, biology, etc. will be considered quaint and archais. We will laugh at what we believed in 2013.

Larry Sunde

12/14/2013 06:01:40 pm

I'm no expert but after watching a few shows I wouldn't hire him to do serious work for me if needed. I'd be scared that he would be digging on my property and see a funny looking rock and think it proves the Knights Templar built a structure on my property and wanted to do a excavation.

PHILLIP

12/16/2013 01:55:53 pm

tara please do not misread this post as defending M,r Wolter I personally agree with you, he is a tool and the show is about as dumbed down as any so called " scientific docu drama" could ever hope to be. I do however feel that you have un fairly grouped many hard working and open minded non accredited individuals in your pseudo intellectual hooligan group but you are probably 75 % correct that does not mean however that anyone who does not wear an argile sweater and oxford slipons is a pseudo intellectual thug thank thoug for you obvious love of the english language, your ability to wield it is formidable :)

Tara Jordan link

12/30/2013 01:32:40 pm

Thank you Phillip.I do agree with you.Going through academic or scientific training doesn't make you "inevitably" smarter,but it provides you discipline & methodology.

Adam

12/12/2015 08:10:45 pm

Discipline is gained by determination; methodology can be learned anywhere; but passion is everything. My brother for instance, didn't complete high school, yet is now the VP of one of America's leading software developing firms. At 17 he read every book he could find on the subject, and 15 years of 80 plus hour weeks later, he proved himself. If not for passion, he would have failed. Now he makes just over $300k per year; which is irrelevant, but I'm proud. Likewise, I know people who have degrees, some from prominent universities, who are dumber than a box of rocks; admittedly, except for maybe in their respective fields.

Ge Ki

12/12/2015 10:50:08 pm

Adam - For the umpteenth time, this page is not about Wolter's lack of academic credentials. It's about him lying about them. I don't suppose you would approve of your brother lying about his.

Robert

12/22/2013 09:55:02 pm

Hi, I think that the show referred to a well known scientist when it came to understanding the date the kensington stone was carved. The expert claimed that the first analysis was incorrect because there is two layers to analysis of the two different types of metals found in the stone.
To me all I have to do is look at a map and inquire about the nation that currently owns Denmark territories such as Greenland and understand that sea farers could make it to the hudson bay, this seams like common sense to me but it is very difficult convincing some scientific communities about thinking "out side of the box" when they also claim that "theories" should be put up to the challenge of other scientist and / or explorers of the truth and facts.

joshua

5/24/2015 05:39:14 pm

scott none the less confronts histories or at least ideas that must be kindled again in out collective conscieness..keep it up scott

Santa Claus

12/23/2013 11:31:57 am

Hey Everybody , until you have your own show on T.V. give Scott a break , Sounds like your ALL JEALOUS ......

Storm Knight

7/28/2014 07:37:38 am

The people who lied to us from the beginning are still around and will do whatever is necessary to shut up anyone who wishes to simply tell the truth to the public. It is clear that many of you have been thouroughly brainwashed. My own credentials can stand up to the strictest investigation. I would have loved to have had a chance to work with Scott.

Douglas Chilson

9/11/2014 11:41:25 am

Yep, A show he LIED about his credentials to obtain - which discredits his show, as well as himself.
Passing off things or ideas you know to be False as True, especially on television to millions of viewers in unforgivable; and not only does he fail to deny it, he embraces the LIE stating "how smart does one have to be" in regards to 'uncovering archeological discoveries' - a complete slap in the face for the thousands of professionals in the field around the world, many of whom have made REAL discoveries backed up by ACTUAL research and Scientific FACT.

I have watch several episodes of your show and have found absolutely NOTHING short of conjecture, some VERY broad assumptions, and not a single REAL discovery.

You Sir are a Charlatan, a FRAUD, and should be ASHAMED of yourself. Stop peddling your SnakeOil to the weak minded individuals whom believe ANYTHING they see on the History Channel MUST be true - and go accomplish something, anything REAL

Douglas Chilson

9/11/2014 11:55:39 am

PS - I sincerely hope you are not a Mason Scott, because EVERYTHING I've seen on your show with regards to FreeMasons is complete and total BULL.

Again, you should be ASHAMED for passing off your quick and FALSE research on subjects you know nothing about as being the truth. You are a FRAUD

3-D

12/29/2013 07:08:06 pm

I think he has a great show. But can someone tell me if it is TRUE ????? In his background he Had?? Supposedly worked for the government ?????

Tara Jordan link

1/3/2014 01:07:26 pm

@Terry Dixon. Absolutely,outsiders don`t have a clue about the predatory nature of the academic - scientific realm.If Scott Wolter & his brigade of lunatic groupies think some of us are "though",I respectfully suggest them to go through academic peer reviewing.

Cindy

11/23/2014 03:20:23 pm

Tara, after reading your numerous posts I have come to the conclusion that you are one of those people that look down your nose at anyone that isn't "educated" to the degree that you feel you are. Remember hon, there's always someone just a bit more intelligent than everyone else. A professional student by some chance?

Bill Price

1/11/2014 03:41:14 pm

Tara your a pin head at best
Mr Wolter's company has been doing investigative work in geology since 1990 long before he began his TV program. In that time he has won numerous awards and citations for his work, including assisting in the Pentagon disaster of 9/11

American Petrographic Services, Inc. has been recognized by the American Council of Engineering Companies (ACEC) and the Minnesota Society of Professional Engineers (MSPE) on several projects ranging from Homicide cases, Pavement failures, ancient structures, and to the September 11 attack on the Pentagon.

Projects and associated awards:

The NewportTower Research (2009)

ACEC – Honor Award

The Kensington Rune Stone (2007)

ACEC – National Recognition Award

ACEC – Grand Award

MSPE – Seven Wonders of Engineering Award

The Homicide Materials Investigation (2005)

ACEC – National Recognition Award

ACEC – Grand Award

MSPE – Seven Wonders of Engineering Award

Pentagon Concrete Analysis (2003)

ACEC – Grand Award

MSPE – Merit Award

Deicer Distress Investigation (1992)

Consulting Engineers Council – Grand Award

Kevin Kernitz

1/12/2014 10:59:53 am

Bill

Thank you for your information and list of awards. I was just beginning to think Tara had all of the explanations to the mysteries of life. Another armchair quaterback....

Tara Jordan link

1/12/2014 02:33:59 pm

Yes indeed,he received 2 awards for his "researches" on The Kensington Rune Stone & The Newport Tower,unfortunately proven to be hoaxes.....
The organizations delivering "the awards" don't have an ounce of scientific credibility & intellectual integrity.
Wolter doesn't stop at being utterly incompetent,he is also grandiosely dishonest.I am not blaming him for becoming a successful bullshit incubator,he is smart enough to take advantage of public ignorance & gullibility.He has been turned into an authority on history & archeology, by minds even smaller than his own

spellchecker is real

2/17/2014 05:09:57 am

Bill,
If I'm about to call someone a "pinhead" in fairly brief post , I would probably be sure I use my spellchecker or understand the difference between you're and your. I try to do that anyhow but feel it's a necessity if I'm ripping someone else for being unintelligent.

Was I the only one who read this far and wondered why Mr. Wolter only responded to one slanderous comment?

Scott Wolter didnt find his collection he bought it.

12/11/2014 04:58:16 am

no I too noticed his one time self defence attack on the one person Tara. Scott Wolter is a fake a fraud and a JOKE.

Rick Rhodes

1/25/2014 06:46:26 am

and I have a great wish that I have found one investigative reporter with enough balls to tackle why we know nothing of Barack Obama's grades, college entrance exams, college work in any field. You seem to be good at wht you do, do something really relevant, one that could be a REALLY large hoax. Not small stuff like Scott Wolter. I mean, really, who cares if SW is a fraud, I'm more interested in what appears to be a huge, impacting fraud. Scott wolters is a fraud = small, non-impacting fraud. BO being one would be huge. so, you are either checken to look into, or possibly you did and nothing was easily found or nothing was there to be found. all are possibilities at this point since we, in mass, are clueless as to the Great One's actual academic credentials. Any reality to any academic prowess? Sure was not the case when we looked into W's or JFK's. No example of academic prowess was able to be found for either. I surmise this is also the case with BO, thinking we have the Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome going on, all but the innocent see clothing when no clothing is present.

Daryl L. Hunter link

1/25/2014 01:15:42 pm

Rick, because of Jason blowing the whistle on Scott's BS, I no longer have to watch a show portrayed as fact when it is not. Jason has saved me a lot of time and the time of a lot of others. I agree Obama is a danger and SW isn't but there are plenty of watch dogs all over Obama lies and frauds already and that isn't Jason's expertise.

Kevin Via link

2/12/2014 08:08:58 am

Tara I was going to write a large post to expose your ignorance and hate. but I digress.

FOR THE SAKE OF THIS POST THE WORD ROCK MEANS ALL FORMS OF MINERALS AND "STUFF" THAT MAKES THE CAKE WE CALL EARTH!

FYI MY apologies for the spelling & grammatical errors. I was injured in Iraq while in combat and typing hurts so I am not going to go back and correct my errors(although Tera you may want to. I put the statement in parenthesis about the war, which i would gladly do again to see if your head actually pops from distane.(I was in Iraq so we keep the fighting over there! Because if we do not "those people"(that's for you to TARA) whose only desire in life is to do us harm can not focus on coming here and repeating another 9/11 or even worse)

anyway if the Computer does not catch it, I will leave it.
How long have you been a democrat anyway Tara? but instead of exposing your obvious self esteem issues, lack of a Good education and and your jealousy issues you toward success lets address your foolish and ignorant statements you made about and directed toward Scott. Who,by the way I am sure, has published more than you, makes more than you, is more knowledgeable than you has succeeded much much much more than you and is happier than you. How do I know he is happier, well I watch the show and he has an open mind.

OK to the center piece of what has availed all of this insight into your angry life.

It is the center-piece which shouts out your complete ignorance!

Tara were you aware we live on a rock floating through space?

Tara were you aware that all around us in space is a lot more really really big rocks?

Tara were you aware some people believe the Earth to be 4.5 billion years old give or take 7 or 8 days. (the actual age is 4,456,987,251 days and 1 minute.

Tara were you aware I would Need a Forensic geologist to get the closest age of the earth.

Tara were you aware that a geologist can get an extremely accurate History of what the earth went through by looking at the history of the rocks on earth.

Tara were you aware there are different rocks on earth and as they form the leave clues to our history.

Tara were you aware that in-bedded in some of these rocks are fossilized (turned into a rock) (well I should give you the detailed definition but i'm worried your head will pop. OK take a drink...no no no your to young for alcoholism. Drink water. Fossilized is the process in which organic material (IE Scott's Brain) is replaced with non Organic Material or Minerals. No I wont go to your brain.

Tara do you know someone who might study minerals found on earth?

Tara were you aware there is a fossilized record that explains to us what happened all those billions and billions of years?

Tara were you aware, that some believe, that if you(no no no) that if someone studied real hard they could probably gives us a pretty accurate timeline of the history of earth by reading the rocks. history?

Tara were you aware that given the scope of the age of the earth it is entirely possible that for 99.9% of the time the earth was hurling through space there were no humans..Just a rocks and other forms of life?

Tara were you aware that a geologist actually study rocks to help us uncover the secretes of the history of this planet and the others we have been too.

Tara are you aware of anyone specializing in this? help help me Tara Help me open up your mind?

Tara are you concerned that man has only been on the earth for less than .01% of earths history.

I'm not because there are hard working open minded men and women out there Like Scott, who not only can help us understand how our planet came to be, but through forensic geology they can correct the mistakes recent man has made in documenting our history in order to gain politically or financially. In fact if you ever find yourself in DC take the time to go to the library (you will need to order the books a day in advance) and read President Jefferson's correspondence with not only Benjamin Franklin but Louis & Clark on the real serious matter of the dutch and other settlers that were 4th and 5th generations Americans living west of the Mississippi. Tara the only way this could true is they settled in America and had land Claims prior to 1493.which they did This does not even go into the Chinese Polynesians or other sea going cultures.

The seas were not walls they were super highways. if a 16 year old girl in a 17 foot sail boat can cross the Atlantic, the Pacific and Navigate the horn all by herself i,m sure an entire nation could go further than a few miles off shore prior to 1493.

1 of the standard Definitions of Geology The use of the principles of geology to reconstruct and understand the history of the earth.

what was that again a geologist should do? FYI my step father is a Geologist and he has been working with the Smithsonian for 16 years cataloging dating and verify real European and Chinese settlements that arrived in the Americas as early

Albrecht Köhler

2/14/2014 03:12:51 pm

Thank you Oswald Bates for your input.

Dayna Tolley link

2/16/2014 11:24:02 am

Tara: I would really be curious to know what YOU do. You must have at least a Ph.D in something to talk so disparagingly about the History Channel, it's programs, and Scott Wolter. Here's my take: I went through an Anthropology Dept. (90 graduate credit hours) at a prestigious university. They were NOT interested in students thinking for themselves, or outside the box. We were supposed to follow the "party line" (here defined by century-old anthropologists), and spit it back out. There is no way they would ever train or allow anthropologists or archaelogists on the department to investigate or search out new discoveries or discoveries gone uninvestigated. So who the hell is supposed to do that? YOU?? IF Scott Wolter wants to go out there and investigate, make hypotheses, etc., what's it to you? I haven't heard him state anything as FACT. So he makes some postulations---somebody's gotta do it. Most of the big discoveries in this world were made by men who went out, searched with a passion, and stuck with it until they finally found what they were looking for And, they didn't always have degrees. (example: Howard Carter and King Tut). Why are you so defensive and condescending about all of this. What are YOUR credentials?

Jason Rumsey

2/20/2014 07:26:53 pm

So Tara let me get this strait, so what you are saying is that a person is nothing but cannon fodder if they don't have a degree given to them by others to show that they have sat through boring lecture, passed this lab and that and served the required hours of studying and stress. Your an idiot flat out. You should probably go back to school and keep learning the crap being feed to you, you are the cattle, you are the cannon fodder and you and everyone like you are the "Average pseudo intellectual hooligans" thinking that because you went to university and received a graduate degree that you are better than everyone else. Let's ask a simple question since your ssooo intelligent, what are you and all the others like you going to do when the shit hits the fan and life is no longer about how much you make or where you live and how you were brought up but how to survive when everything that you have and everything you have ever known is now gone. We will see then who the intelligent one's are and who is the cannon fodder, now won't we. I do see you and people like you lasting very long. AT ALL!

Bella Jade

3/25/2014 08:58:50 am

Here is a bit of research for you, you pinhead, there is a fantastic little button on pretty much ALL T.V.s it is called a power on/off button. If you do not like Scott, that is fine. Turn the TV off or change the channel if you don't like him. I give this advice to all the other pinheads on here that are doing the same as Tara and criticizing Scott for the work he does. Many people just do not like the fact that things are not the way we were taught in school. I guess SOME people would rather keep the status quo and not have the option to learn. IF you or any of the others who are so quick to criticize actually watches the show, Scott actually consults experts in the different fields. Unlike you people who just uses your own limited knowledge to put another person down. Where is your proof that what he has found is false? Perhaps if you and the rest of the peanut gallery, got off your butts and do some ACTUAL investigative research yourself you will then be able to talk with some actual knowledge.

JD Cline

5/20/2014 01:27:10 pm

Ditto Bella. What has hurt the Histoty channels credibity is the Ancient Alien load of crap. Not Scott. Icant beleive people can not see the fact that Bill & the umpa lumpa looking guy have a vested finanial in people swallowing their crap. They both publish magazines that pander to the audience. The history channel is essentially paying them to advertize. It comes on and I change the channel after puking.

Leah

11/23/2014 10:29:00 am

Amen Bella Jade.....You hit the nail on the head. If you don't like it turn it off.
I enjoy the show myself. Only a fool would think the history of America is text book. Theres so much we will never know and I thank you Scott for making me wonder.

Sherry

4/12/2014 04:07:14 am

At LEAST... He IS trying to get to the 'fact of the matter'... REAL TALK

Dean Smallwood

4/12/2014 08:07:19 am

I had this guy pegged as a charlatan from the very beginning .

Judd55

4/29/2014 01:13:01 pm

Hello

Leaving a message at beginning as this thread doesn't appear to end.

Too bad all this is wasted on discussing what is only "entertainment" and although lovingly produced and beautifully paced is mostly void of any significant information.

Why doesn't everyone go and do something with someone you love (like your kids or parents) and stop making the fellow, although he seems to be a nice, earnest journalist forensic geologist (geology is all forensic...not like much new is happening), Mr Wolter is not following any scientific method that his peers would accept. Science is about observing and coming to conclusions: not the reverse.

Thanks for your attention.

Mary Ann Minnich

5/20/2014 04:13:07 pm

Job we'll done on the apron!

tim

7/21/2014 08:43:50 am

Tara stop being truth hating cunt, go play with your rabbit, there's a dear xx

Storm Knight

7/28/2014 07:29:40 am

If the others. The fearful ones who feel compelled to deprive humanity of true history would simply accept and admit the truth, we would never hear junk science. Only true science. Sarah Winnemucca had nothing to prove when she wrote of the giants living on piute land. She simply told the truth. The artifacts are still there for all to see. At least until the national park service closes it down. These are the people who need to be questioned concerning credibility. Not Scott.

Mr. E

9/23/2014 10:53:45 am

Erik Moller

10/16/2014 11:33:33 am

My education includes a double bachelor degree from CSUH in Management and Psychology, along with a teaching credential and most a a Master's in Education from CSUS. So how do you explain the fact that I built the first working prototype of a electronic tire pressure monitoring system for Toyota

John Von Bronzesnake

11/1/2014 05:20:40 pm

That has to be the most ironic post I have ever read.
Someone as obviously ignorant as you, is either A) Just an idiot
or B) Extremely jealous
or C) The biggest ass kisser of the decade award winner! Bend over Jason - Tara pucker up!

11/4/2014 11:24:28 am

Tara and Jason, Go to your rooms and stay there until you can say something as smart as college freshman.

Take it easy on the manure heaping without filling the void with facts or even logical speculation, other wise the void will bury you in the remainder of the crap or maybe that is what's happened already?

Oh, yeah, quit correcting everyone's English/spelling. I didn't see either of you list a degree in those topics. Horror fiction huh? Now here's a guy with a real grip on reality!

jonny

11/22/2014 11:17:14 am

Yep. This guy reminds me of Giorgio Tsoukalos how does Ancient Aliens. it turns out his credentials are (from Wikipedia): "Tsoukalos is a 1998 graduate of Ithaca College in Ithaca, New York, with a bachelor's degree in sports information and communication.[3] For several years in the early 2000s, before he made ancient astronaut research his primary career, he served as a bodybuilding promoter in IFBB sanctioned contests, including Mr. Olympia. He is fluent in English, Greek, German, French, and Italian." LOL. Not exactly experts.

Robert Goodyear

11/22/2014 11:56:52 am

Jonny, I agree, but in my opinion he is not REMOTELY fluent in English.

John

12/16/2014 05:15:09 am

The first archeologists were not college educated, but simple treasure seekers. Barry Fell was in oceanology turned archeologist and has discovered some amazing things during his career. And anybody can question someone else's credentials, just don't ignore their triumphs.

Daniel A. Ernst

12/20/2014 12:35:12 pm

First of all you all are more catty than a bevy of sorority bitches on a drunken Saturday night with no dates. Wait you supposed exports, (not a misspell), didn't have dates either. To busy with the Tidily Wink Championships.
Now, for your information almost anyone can get a degree these days over the internet and before that through the snail mail. Get it. That however doesn't mean that people like Scott Wolter can't make discoveries especially on taboo topics that most current self proclaimed experts will not consider since it may be outside the prescribed opinions drilled into the heads of academics. Oh I’m not saying that he got his degree off the internet, I was just making a point.
Scott is one hundred percent right that there is a whole world history that has been swept under the academic carpet for a long time.
Don't report UFO's, don’t try to change the history that has been and is being taught, don’t buck the system, Don't, Don’t, Don't. Well I wish more of Scotts detractors would do a little bucking of their own and maybe really check his research and facts. You may prove he's wrong on some things, but don't open your blamed mouths until you spend the time to do the work.
When you dismiss arbitrarily, and condemn so cruelly you lose all credibility. Then you have nothing left to hang your hats on but the fact you’re jealous. You covet his success with the show and the paychecks. So he may have an ego- so what. He’s doing something that he wants to do and is not stuck in the hum drum academic misnomers business pounding the dullet brainwashing of your future replacements.
There is a whole history of this planet we are not taught because there are those who don't want to know the truths, who are afraid to ask the real questions, or stand up and speak out and to take the nay-sayer's criticisms.
Either march in step, go along to get along, or step out and go your own way you Bozos. I for one like a rebel. I also like people who will put it on the line to prove that they are right. In Scotts' case he is on the right tract when it comes to uncovering hidden histories and long lost truths. Really do the academic lunkheads believe that no one else discovered this country before Columbus? Maybe, just maybe there were great civilizations that rose and fell all over the world, maybe more than once. Maybe, again, just maybe they had technologies that surpassed ours by eons and are now gone for whatever reasons.
Maybe they left remnants of their existence in the memories, rituals, and practices of the peoples we consider ancient, like the Mayans and the Aztecs, who had met these ancients in their distant past and were following paths that had been ever changed by that old knowledge passed down over and over in each generation. Just who were these ancient Gods that left the same type influences all over theworld. And why do we think ancient man could not have been world traveled and have traded on distant shores.
I am amazed at the incredible arrogance of those who consider themselves, and this civilization to be the pinnacle of intelligence and civilization when all we do is consume like a virus and war over the most trivial of reasons when as a race we humans should be building our civilization saving ships, space stations, and out posts and spread our kind far enough to keep the race going should there be a solar, or a galactic cataclysm.
Just how much farther could we be if all the money and time spent on war and greed was spent on science and space travel? We could be mining the asteroids now. Maybe we could find the elements we need to power us farther to the next discovery. We could be learning how to live without wasting the things we use. We could be earning our right to leave this planet by not destroying it. We could be living longer and better and not over populating the planet growing our problems when we have less and less resources to suit our needs. But, no we just depopulate with war and by letting thousands a day die of disease and hunger. How civilized is that. Maybe we need some alien Storm trooper army to come down and lay down the law to us. We have no one on this planet I would trust to have total control of it. Not one country and not one world organization. We are just too corrupt as a species!
People are always saying if there are aliens why don't they just land and say hello. Well if I was one of them and I got a good look at what we call civilization, and the way we treat one another, why the hell would I ever want to put myself in the middle of that crap.
We are the violent nuts; we are the biting monkeys throwing our own dung at anyone who gets close enough to the bars.
The simple truth is what I found right here within this site that is a prime example of that senseless hate and baseless jealousy that is so prevalent in the human race.
We as a species have seen the monsters and they are us.

Robert Goodyear

12/21/2014 05:57:53 am

Daniel Ernst,

The day Wolter, Tsoukalos, Bobo, or any of the other crackpots on the History Channel or H2 provide SCIENTIFIC PROOF in the form of dna or any other recognized science, is the day I will lay myself at Gotsch's and Bad Reverend's altars to be sacrificed to their (lower case) gods.

Septimius Severus

1/5/2015 10:40:43 am

by the way, the kensington ruin stone, still not proven to be real, i know you believe what you want to believe you rebel you, but dont pretend to have ever made any scientific or historical contribution to humanity. You havent. you're pretty much just a con man, conning the idiots of america and the history channel, which you change its name to Scott wolter and the toothless alligator hunter channel. NOW THAT'S A NETWORK I'D WATCH!

Mig

1/13/2015 04:42:17 pm

The show is a bunch of bunk and hype. It insults the intelligence of anyone with a moderate education.

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1/24/2015 12:20:59 pm

Tara Jordan, you come across as an insufferable witchhh! I see you in my crystal bowl and you are one of those very ugly closed-minded, self important, and unloved academics. Keep up the good work...everything coming out of your trap reinforces the stereotype of the academic loser.

Robert Goodyear

1/25/2015 02:46:12 am

Lilane,

What is your crystal BOWL? Is it the toilet where you shit and piss your moronic drivel? It is obvious that you are an ignorant, un-knowledgeable elementary school drop-out.

Everything that comes out of your trap reinforces the stereotype of the illiterate loser.

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1/24/2015 06:40:58 pm

Aaron H

2/1/2015 11:17:14 am

Why would you contact the University of Minnesota to find out whether someone was awarded an honorary degree at UM-Duluth? They're not the same school. They're part of the same state system, but not the same school.

John Baxter

2/27/2015 12:09:13 am

Youre pathetic. Just a slave to the system. Jealous. You probably made no money on your BS degree if you had one. Once you figure out what you learned in school was the wrong history, the wrong mathematics, and the wrong science you quickly understand, we are living under the empire. Where someone will discredit anyone because they are a critic with nothing to stand on. Youre one of those critics Tara. Enjoy your slave life :) Memorize those scholastic text and see how far that gets you. You must be a catholic and your kids probably get molested.

Angle De Heaven

3/6/2015 09:53:01 am

Funny I wanted to look this guy up because some of the trash that is coming from his mouth. I see there are others who must be thinking the same!

Dolores

3/30/2015 11:10:18 pm

"If Wolter was only half as smart as he pretends, I would ask him to do my nails" (You forgot the period to end the sentence Tara.)

That statement is childish and condescending. I didn't hear him say he was anything in the first episode; the only one I have watched so far. With statements like that you will fit very well in the ivory towers of the elite of academia!

Brian Kinnear

5/4/2015 01:49:09 pm

This Jason Colavito is such a whine ass loser who seems to be very jealous. Why else would he waste his valuable time trying to discredit another. A true life and I wouldn't listen to any of his hatred. Sad dude, truly sad. Get on with your life and try to do something positive for once in your sad lonely life.

Eric

10/18/2015 12:06:28 am

Tara,
I'm so glad you don't know how to type, nor know how to write a proper sentence. The first the you learn in second grade English class is that you do not start a sentence with a preposition. If you are truly educated, then I highly recommend that whatever online school you went to, take back the fake degree you payed for.

Americanegro

9/4/2016 12:13:41 am

Eric:

In my opinion/For what it's worth/Above all/Upon my honor/..., that's wrong. With all due respect, suck it, won't you?

Ge Ki

9/6/2016 03:19:05 am

Americanegro - You got that right! Eric's FOS.

Doris Cundiff link

11/23/2015 02:13:25 am

Nasty nasty nasty. Whether he has an honorary degree or not, he doesn't seem any of that, but you do. Are you his x?

Steve

2/24/2016 07:07:05 pm

Jealousy motivates life losers to opine,opine and opine.

Carlos Fidalgo

3/30/2016 09:51:57 am

About Scott Wolter.
I'm from Portugal and I am Master of Heritage Studies with specialization in archaeological heritage.
It turns out that just see, read and hear one of the largest "lies / inventions" I ever had the opportunity to witness.
In the program "America Underneath," Scott Wolter visits a camera in Pennsylvania and believes it is a place of rituals. Do not know the explanation of simple decanter boxes, where the water fell and suffered a process of natural filtration.
Already studied various structures of those, and I confess that Scott Wolter should, before launching into confusion, the millions of people watching the History Channel, go to college and learn things the archeology, history, etc.
You can not, nor should connect all the archaeoastronomy, still know very little about this, and the fact that a light beam projecting between two inputs does not mean that has to do with the ancient calendar system, such as example, used by the Mayans.
These structures are surely the sixteenth / seventeenth century, here in Portugal and may, that is in Pennsylvania, also be that time or later. The cut of the stone in the decanter boxes is too flat indicating the application of more modern tools.
Anyway, I do not see how the History Channel puts a person like this to come up on the history of the United States of America !!!!

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9/4/2016 12:14:59 am

Muito bem! Obrigado!

Mark

5/22/2016 08:40:13 pm

so you checked the University of Minnesota for a list from the University of Minnesota Duluth?

D Mack

11/23/2016 08:59:33 am

Just a cunning linguist, for this purpose will not due. Purposefully, inappropriate, purposefullessness That would be you. Before I read these words, bred of ignorance and bliss. I never knew Scott Wolter's name, Carried such gravitas as this!

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2/18/2017 09:21:16 am

A degree is a stepping stone, not a permanent position.

For several years relatively stable statistics showed that 60% of people having a bachelor’s degree pursue a career path DIFFERENT from the emphasis of their degree. Of the remaining 40%, most have career paths that divert from their original degree focus anywhere from 10 to 30 years after they earned the degree. It is called "professional growth." If you are one whose career followed your degree, good for you, but remember – that makes you a minority.

Steve Jobs and Bill Gates became industry leaders with no college degrees at all, and they are not an exception to the rule. They just happen to be among the richest people and well known. As of a few years ago, Bill Gates still had no formal, earned degree. Do you deny his expertise as valid because he doesn’t have any degree?

Your academic analysis of Wolter about his bachelor's degree (which I'm sure you apply to many other people) is flawed, and your criticism Invalid.

Nancy Elizabeth Sinclair

12/11/2017 01:40:10 pm

Tara, Both Scott and Jason hold and have earned bachelor degrees in their specific fields;both have found their niche in which to use these degrees in business. In this case Jason started the kerfuffle regarding Scott's work opening his site to opinions of his readers. I understand he feels entitled to have his opinions posted, but this site lets others chime in with their views thereby inviting the web trolls who like to see their names on the screen and to continue an argument that should have never started. What a shame all are not at least a wee bit more polite in their posts. Ask civilized questions, do not resort to personal attacks, in that manner all will learn. Regards, Dame Nancy Elizabeth Sinclair

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11/14/2018 03:31:30 am

Good show. Not a problem for me in Scot Wolters credentials. I see a lot of arrogance aimed at his credentials from educated idiots here.
But...I see arrogance in Wolters. And a short fuse against those that disagree with him. Example, he's on cell phone with wife telling her he got pissed off at the guy in Croatian island because he was close minded about the lost colony going west instead of Croatian island. And didn't buy into the Dare stones.
I think the colony was wiped out from disease, drought, winters and Indian attacks. Probably never reached Croatian island. But well never know because John White abandoned looking for his family.

Jennifer P

1/15/2019 02:20:28 am

Accepted history has been proven false. People that still want to accept facts as written in our history books will never be open to the possibility of a different side of history that could possibly be the truth. I appreciate any show on TV that questions what could be a different history then what we have been taught. Come on people, Christopher Columbus wasn’t the first European to discover North America. Could it be possible that other “facts” are also false?

Alma

6/13/2019 08:10:05 pm

Who gives a hoot about degrees. Did Scott ask and question the BS about our history? YES. Did he bring geologist, scientists, archeologists and every day historians to beg the questions about the US...yes. He made our history easier to believe because our historians have it all wrong. We want Scott Wolters back.

Scott F. Wolter link

1/22/2013 10:49:42 am

Jason,

I find your blog entertaining and the comments interesting, but nothing I would normally care to comment on or defend. However, this latest post merits a response since your research is partially right, and partially wrong. There is no way for you to get to the bottom of this so I will help you out.

In 1986 I self-published my first book entitled, The Lake Superior Agate. It was inspired by a mentor who suggested I write the book shortly after the death of my father as a way to focus on something other than grief and guilt. My father drown while we were scuba diving together on the Great Barrier Reef in Australia. The details of why he died are unclear to me to this day, but the fact is a diver is responsible for his partner’s safety and I lost him.

For the next two years I had tough time. I had to quit my job as field geologist with Mapco Minerals, my first job out of college one of my professors helped me get, feeling I needed to stay home and help my family. Writing the book helped get me back on my feet, in addition to the support of my then girlfriend and now wife of 26 years.

Shortly after the book was published, I was invited by the UMD Geology Department to give a lecture at the college about my research. Afterword, six of my former professors asked me technical questions which I answered to their satisfaction. Afterward, they had an informal reception in the Professor’s lounge where they gave me an honorary degree with a whipped cream-topped coffee as my “certificate.”

Was it officially recognized by the University? No. They gave it to me as I have always presented it to be, a sympathy degree. At the time I was quite proud and when I told my then supervisors at my new job at Twin City Testing, they published the story in the company newsletter and added it to my resume’. Not long ago, the question was asked by the State licensing board if it was an official degree and I said no. Because I didn’t want my professors who now in their eighties to have to answer questions about this, I removed it from my resume’.

I am still proud of that “degree” because it came from people I respected and still are some of the most important mentors in my life. I am also proud of the other books I’ve written and the research I’ve done in the arena where many scholars have dropped the ball. The Kensington Rune Stone is the prime example. Thank you for the opportunity to clarify the situation and I’m glad you’re enjoying the show.

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Jason Colavito link

1/22/2013 12:33:25 pm

Scott,

Thank you for taking the time to clarify this. I appreciate your forthright honesty and your willingness to address this here directly. This stands in stark contrast to Sean David Morton, whose supporters sent death threats to me after I reported that his PhD could not be verified. Morton continues to claim the non-existent degree.

I trust you will ask that the false credential be removed from your biographies online, at the American Institute of Professional Geologists and elsewhere, to avoid misleading anyone by accident, as it fooled me and many of your supporters between 1987 and 2012, the period when you included it on your resume.

I, too, am proud of the recognitions that my former professors bestowed upon me, but I would never want anyone to mistake these private recognitions for official honors.

So far as I can tell, none of my statements was factually incorrect, so I am not sure why you say I am "partially" wrong. As you note, you claimed on your resume an honorary degree that was not in fact awarded to you offically. I'm not sure how this is "partially wrong." The only error I see is that I used the present tense, since, as you note, I had no way of knowing that you recently revised your resume.

I am glad you find my blog entertaining, but I would much rather you found it informative. My goal has never been to attack individuals as people, but rather to hold claims up to facts, and I sincerely hope you have learned where your interpretations have far exceeded the available facts and, in places, stand in stark opposition to fact. In the case of Mithraism, your show committed violent assault on fact.

I have made plain my feelings about "America Unearthed" as both history and as television, so I will trust that your reference to my "enjoyment" of it is entirely conventional. I had sincerely hoped your program might celebrate the actual archaeology of America rather than grasping at the faded remains of Victorian pseudoscience. A series that offered a real look at the amazing history of our continent, based in sound archaeology and verifiable fact, would truly be an accomplishment of which to be proud.

I'm so glad you enjoy my blog. Please do keep reading. There's great stuff coming, and I hope you and all my readers will continue to learn along with me about how historians and archaeologists put together the story of our shared past.

Jason

Kristi DeRubeis

2/13/2013 08:25:42 am

Jason

I am frustrated that unfortunately, I believe the bigger and primary message is being completely overlooked. In all the criticism of the show which has led to attacks on Mr. Wolter personally, i.e. his credentials and abilities to produce a competent show, which I will further address in a moment, I believe his main goal is to address the overwhelming issue, IS HISTORY CORRECT???

We can all agree on the answer to that I hope, no. If we have learned anything from the past, it is that sometimes what we "interpret" in evidence found, does not mean that the surmised and deduced theory from that evidence is absolute. We can never know with a 100% certainty exactly what took place. If documentation is not found to tell us exactly what took place then we are left to give our best interpretation of evidence found. We all know, as seen with many history findings, that what was once interpreted initially can be completely overturned with new evidence or a new set of eyes. This happens everyday in police investigations of many crimes. Scott Wolter's goal in his quest is to submit new theories by re-examining old evidence and re-interpreting all the findings given in hopes of uncovering a more accurate depiction of our past. Science is not always a 100% accurate, that's why scientists continue their quests and "theoretical" works everyday. The failures come when we stop looking.

As to the show itself, I'm guessing that if it were a NOVA production on PBS a lot of the criticisms would go away and focus solely on Mr. Wolter's findings and his interpretations of those findings. But he believes so strongly in his mission to uncover misinterpretations , that we consider absolutes, that his best conduit to reach as many as possible is this show. But remember he does not produce, edit or direct the episodes. He is completely limited to their calls on the shows final production. You know that is true when it comes to television. If H2 does a poor job on its production that should not take away from or diminish the real facts, evidence, and people we see involved. Remember there are hours upon hours of interviews and discussion left on a cutting room floor because they would not make an interesting show to those looking for Indiana Jones excitement. It is beyond impossible to get the whole wonderful story from all the people who have contributed their life long research in an hour. It is subjected by television producers only interested in making shows that have become what is their formula for entertainment. But that entertainment draws in crowds that do not turn on PBS to watch NOVA, you know what I mean?? This is a way to reach many different crowds of people, Mr. Wolter can not be held responsible for how it is produced, he just wants us all to look beyond what we are suppose to take as absolute and try to concede that our history books should be changed when there are new interpretations that should be considered.

As for education, I'm an LVN (Licensed Vocational Nurse) & I can tell you that a piece of paper can be a deluded way of trusting someone you know should not be doing the job they're doing. They're are many doctors I would not trust again but a Physicians Assistant I would trust with my life. You know that is true with every career and area of expertise. If someone has something intelligent to contribute you should focus on what they are trying to contribute. If someone were to give you a gift, wrapped unaesthetically pleasing, would you completely dismiss it and throw it away, or would you open it to see what was inside? Don't dismiss the story because the books ugly and someone's honorary degree was misrepresented to your validations of his credentials. The show is not Ancient Aliens, which in title, should tip anyone off to "take it with a grain of salt." "America Unearthed" is a show based on one persons passion for discovering what he believes may be the actual truth. I see your passion for wanting to do the exact same thing. I found your site looking for certain answers myself, but this site will not reach as many people the way it would if you had a show on H2, agreed? Further more, if any of us had a show, we would all be subject to the same type of criticisms no matter what. I have a dream of a book I'm writing to someday be made into a movie for many to see. But I know the challenges and sacrifices I would have to make on the "staying to form" to get it to that wider audience. I haven't reconciled that challenge yet, both to those who have, I commend you.

Thank you Jason for your forum and shares, and thank you Scott Wolter for determined quests for the truths you are so passionately pursuing.

Much success to you both, you both have inspired me.
Thank you
Kristi DeRubeis

Jason Colavito link

2/13/2013 08:33:23 am

I just want to make sure everyone is aware that I'm not ignoring the facts Wolter presents. As of today I've written more than 20,000 words on the "evidence" Wolter provides, analyzing it against facts. That contrasts with only a few thousand words devoted to the production of the show and its star's history. His credentials are relevant only because Wolter claims that his geology background gives him unique insight into history and uses geology to claim a special knowledge of the past.

terry the censor

2/13/2013 03:41:00 pm

Kristi, you are implying that since science can't be 100% correct, therefore Scott Wolter's work is factual and scientifically sound. That's a bit like saying, baseball MVP Miguel Cabrera struck out 98 times last season, therefore I am a great baseball player. The conclusion does not follow from the premise.

James

6/22/2013 04:58:23 am

I must concur with much of what Kristi says below, however, I will take it a bit further. Let me say first, I'm aware that what I am about to say will bring scorn, derision, and personal attack. Bring it on. I don't care. People like the writer of this blog and his sidekick, terry the censor, like many supporters and purveyors of mainstream science and academia have become professional debunkers.They spend hours and hours on a site like this, writing "60,000 words" to discredit one man who is discussing things that they themselves have ignored or deliberately hidden from us, the citizens of America and the world. That, my friends, pisses me off. I DO NOT have a degree in archeology, but that doesn't mean I'm an idiot. Regardless of Wolters 100% accuracy (archaeologists rarely get things right initially) at least he is looking into things that mainstream says are "not real", misidentified, or contrived, IN SPITE of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Personally, I think Wolters doesn't go nearly far enough in his show. There is much evidence of ancient civilization(s) that were MUCH older and much more complex than the apparent pre-colonial European visitors. Take the ancient wall in Rockwall, Texas. Or what about Hueyalatco in Mexico. Jason, why don't you investigate THAT and tell me why since the dates of over 200,000 year old civilization has been confirmed independently by three different labs, is there no ongoing dig at the site? Why did the Mexican government shut the site down as soon as the dates were confirmed and why was Steen-Mcyntire discredited? Why is OUR government limiting access to sites in the US under the guise that they belong to American Indians (yea, it is the "new pc) when many sites are clearly much older? We have been told that the native people here lived in the stone age, right? The who the hell dug up the millions of tons of copper in the upper midwest? Where did it go? Why are there HUNDREDS of newspaper reports from the 1800s of spectacular finds in places like the Grand Canyon but the physical evidence has "disappeared"? You see, my friend, if you spent less time worrying about a show on the History channel that mainly delves into inconsequential travelings of Templar Knights or whomever and more time trying to find out the real truth behind the early history of America, I personally would find you a bit more believable. As it is, I think the time you have spent trying to paint Wolter as some kind of charlatan actually paints you as a piteous, self-serving, uninteresting, cyber-wannabe who has nothing better to do. That is truly sad. Wolter's show, when considered in the grand scope of what has been and what continues to be hidden from us is completely insignificant, however, its significance towers immeasurably over that of this site to which I have wasted my last second visiting.

terry the censor

6/22/2013 05:19:45 am

@James
> professional debunkers

This is how you support Wolter's work:

1) ad hominem attacks against critics, using tired old conspiracy clichés (professional debunkers, ignoring/hiding evidence, etc)

2) in these attacks, neglecting to note a single error made by Wolter's critics

3) not discussing Wolter's work but (somehow) supporting Wolter by citing other alleged conspiracies

James, you don't defend Wolter's actual work! You don't rebut a single specific criticism!

> I have wasted my last second visiting.

Who's wasting whose time?

Jason Colavito link

6/22/2013 06:23:12 am

James, I've written 1,000 blog posts, dozens of magazine articles, and many books on hundreds of topics--including the Rockwall, Texas rock wall you accuse me of ignoring. That you have chosen to read none of this material before accusing me of ignoring or suppressing information speaks volumes.

Jason Akers

8/22/2013 04:13:59 pm

I would first like to say to Scott Wolter that I enjoy your show America Unearthed and your book The Hooked X. I am finding them both to be eye opening to our countries true past. Second I would like to remind Jason that history is written by the winners.

As cliché as that is, it remains to be true. All through out school from Kindergarten through high school graduation we were thought that Christopher Columbus discovered America. we have learned since then that this fact is not true. Many other people have come to America long before him. I am not talking about those from across the oceans, but rather those who have called America their home for thousands of years. Those who truly discovered America were the Indians and South Americans ancestors.

I tell you this, because if history can be wrong about something that many countries held to be true about Christopher Columbus than how much more can be wrong. What Scott Wolter is doing is not pseudo science but rather a new form of science.

You said you had hoped that America Unearthed would show the true history of our great nation. I would like to remind you that our great nation is just a child compared to how long other nations have existed. To understand how important our country is we need to know about the land and those who came before us. Otherwise how else will we know the true history of the land we call America.

Thank you,

Jason A.

Someonewithalife

12/9/2013 07:45:31 pm

Jason, you sound like a jealous hack nerd that has no life. Please get one. Scott, you're on TV but you might not be the most formally-educated archaeologist or whatever. That's fine, because America's greatest thinkers and inventors haven't come from the college classrooms.

Trey

1/11/2014 05:19:06 pm

Jason,

I can see (others can as well I assume) that you are a very intelligent and educated individual. My question to you is what is your obsession with Scott and his education? Does it affect you personally? Does it cost you money? What is he doing with HIS show that is causing you so much pain that you feel the absolute need of attemtping to discredit this person in front of the world? It makes me wonder why you dont focus your obvious intelligence elsewhere. I dont mean that as a slight. What I'm saying is if you put this much effort into solving history ( your counter findings on Scotts research) as you have put into Scott Wolters education.......you might have YOUR own show on TV.

Obviously someone at the history channel thinks he is credible enough to make the investment into him. And that investment has paid off because he has another season airing this year.

I think you could be much more succseful if you focused that energy into teaching history or publishing books on history to share with the world rather than targeting someone's education or lack of education....whatever........I mean honestly ......who cares?

Trey

1/12/2014 03:48:41 am

Jason,

let me first start off by apologizing. You are correct. I didn't look at the dates on this post last night in my hours of reading through your website and it's endless supply of anti-Wolter banter and America Unearthed "critic reviews".... So when I responded to THIS rant of yours I didn't note the date. So..... my apologies.

Having said that, I fully stand by my comments. You responded:

"If I may, Trey, how does writing a couple of paragraphs a year ago constitute an obsession? Do you see it mentioned in my current reviews of the series"

Now I will admit that some of his stuff is cheesy and I find it hard to follow or stay tuned. Although I do like some his shows, Im not a Scott Wolter enthusiast, I like the fact that he makes you think...(well atleast I do) and you do a good job of pointing out a lot of obvious things like the Menehune episode where Scott jumped off his boat to swim ashore only to have a, presumably, dry camera man filming from the shoreline, TV does that to more shows than A.U.

You don't think 60,000 words typed on this site, about a person and his show which does nothing to affect you financially, or personally (if it does then I wholeheartedly retract my arguments) is strange? You write a "review" after every one of his shows, you claim to have visited and done your own research on his sites.....writing your "findings" to debunk or discredit him. My point is sir, GO FIND YOUR OWN SITES, GO GET YOUR OWN SHOW, spend your time being productive man, not pointing out what others are or not doing......How does it personally affect you to the point to go online, make a website, type "60,000" or however many words, paragraphs or whatever. Spend your own time and money visiting the shows filming sites with the intent of debunking a mans TV show. If your not singling him out, nor focusing on his show, then why are you not in Astoria, Oregon looking for One-eyed Willie's treasure, proving the Goonies movie is full of sh!*.

Look man ,all Im trying to say is that you seem very intelligent. You write very well. Im sure that you could achieve so much more in your life by channeling this energy into other endeavors, write some books, go teach ...something productive. Contribute something beside a website talking about the lack of others. You have drive about things you feel passionate about. You have balls enough to go out and challenge things that you don't agree with or don't fully understand (a lot of the countries forefathers had that same drive) by not being afraid to ask questions. I respect that immensely. I always felt that the world needs more people like you, who was it that challenged the masses by proving the world was round?!!!!!!!!

Trey

1/12/2014 03:56:47 am

Suzanne

1/19/2014 03:54:18 am

Jason,

Your response to Scott is a little bit backhanded wouldn't you say? You come off as "I accept your answer, but still feel like you are full of crap"...You say you don't write your blog to attack individual as people but to hold claims up to facts? Do you interact with people outside in the real world and "hold claims up to the facts" when you are face to face with them, or do you hide behind your blog and computer? In the real world, your comments would be an attack on an individual as a person.
Why is it when someone questions the history of the US or goes against anything that is main stream, they become a target. Why can't he have an opinion, like you do. He is on TV and is questioning things, and opening people's mind to think. He is doing "actual archeology" as you say he isn't. He is getting out into the real world and doing hands on investigating...Instead of sitting behind a computer and "researching"... Sometimes people are too smart for their own good and think they know everything... Perhaps take a step back and realize that no one is perfect and stop being so snarky and stuck up.

Jason Colavito link

1/19/2014 04:00:16 am

Ask yourself this, Suzanne: Why are OK with Wolter questioning others' opinions but are upset when I question his? The problem isn't that he's trying to do historical research; the trouble is that he does it poorly and lacks evidence for his claims.

And, yes, I challenge people to their faces, too. Giorgio Tsoukalos still holds a grudge against me for arguing with him in person, and former ABC News anchor Carol Simpson never forgave me for asking her challenging questions when she visited my college.

Lora

2/3/2014 01:50:45 pm

Sometimes, I feel as though this blog is too critical. Also, at times, just downright nasty. Those of us that watch these shows on whatever channels are aware that they are for entertainment. I don't particularly care if someone has an extra "honorary degree." Mr. Wolter's shows are entertaining and informative, and open my mind up to many more possibilities, and isn't that what it is all about? Keep up the fascinating work, Mr. Wolter :-). I just think that in life, we should all be a little less critical of others, especially if they are helping and informing.

Brian Stebbins

9/11/2014 05:57:23 am

Hes just goin back to cover his tracks, he would have continued to lie about until the evidence smacked him in his face

What a convenient truth, you would have denounced it well before 2012

Debi

2/14/2015 03:32:47 pm

I, too, was cautiously optimistic that this series would tell the latest archeological stories about this place we call home. I miss the History-Channel-That-Was.

I am disappointed and weary of reality shows, semi-reality shows and sensationalist 24-hr media.

At least there is still Nova.

Cheers!

Dolores

3/30/2015 11:32:04 pm

So Jason?!? Do you and your peers only acknowledge mainline (including but not limited to Ivy League Schools) degree programs?

I have news for you a LOT of the archaeologists out in the field are NOT from well known schools but they manage somehow to do the job anyway.

Pity that folks like you will tear them apart poisoning the minds of other folks who might actually benefit from the information presented.

I looked at your blog. It's really hateful!

Phil Troutman

1/22/2013 11:32:00 pm

I think it's a great show, Scott. I've noticed the first thing the skeptics do is question the background of those they disagree with in order to immediately bring credibility to the forefront, as opposed to maybe describing how the lines could have physically been cut into a Puma Punku stone.
I don't like that some are opposed to people further educating themselves. There are items of interest literally all across this country of ours that don't match up with status quo history.
Keep up the good work, my wife and I await future showings of America Unearthed with interest.

Jason Colavito link

1/22/2013 11:46:33 pm

I've never questioned the fact that Scott Wolter is a geologist. This issue only came to my attention because I was unable to verify the existence of the degree after another commenter on my blog asked about Wolter's credentials.

The facts are facts, regardless of who discovers them, and the presence or absence of a degree does not change whether the science is sound.

Tara Jordan

1/23/2013 01:53:10 am

Indeed, by questioning the credibility of megalomaniac like Giorgio Tsoukalos, fraudster & plagiarist such as Von Däniken & archaeological luminary David Hatcher Childress,we are guilty of crime de lèse majesté. Keep up the good work Scott,your audience is only 3 degrees from being retarded

Jason Colavito link

1/23/2013 02:20:02 am

Let's keep this civil.

Tara Jordan

1/23/2013 03:31:31 am

Indeed Jason,this is your house, but why are these individuals systematically questioning your integrity & motivation?.If we dare criticizing them, we are labeled as intellectual terrorists & crypto Fascists. As far as I am aware they are public figures, some of them are celebrities,and they make quite a lot of money by deceiving the public.

Jason Colavito link

1/23/2013 03:58:08 am

I'm not saying to avoid criticizing those who deserve criticism. I'm just asking that we avoid name calling and potentially insulting or insensitive words like "retarded."

Terry DIxon

3/15/2013 11:29:28 am

The issue that leads one to want to know the credentials the researcher brings to the table is the soundness or unsoundness of the researchers research techniques. I was not interested in Scott's background until I watched three of his programs. After watching them I came to the realization that the conclusions Scott promotes as fact are not sound because they are not in fact based on actual scientific principles and for this reason I sought information concerning Scott's background to determine if I was missing something here, some new scientific methodology, etc. Challenging research is the basis of scientific study- propose your explanation- then test it scientifically, then place the research, including methodology (so your study can be replicated and findings repeated or based on your own research, criticized for flaws in the study/explanation) and findings in the public domain for criticism, letting the results fall where they may. How can one repeat any of the "research" conducted by Scott when the only record of research is the description on the show? The information necessary to test a hypothesis by replication simply does not exist. I enjoy the show and enjoy taking shots at concluding statements made during the show. The fact that many emotions, as when he was told he could not visit a site to gather "data" by landowners, are displayed by Scott, raising the question of whether Scott has the "discipline" to study anything.
I continue to watch Scott's show and enjoy it. But as a scientist by profession, I realize I am not watching scientific fact and use the show to strengthen my ability to try and understand how psuedo-science can be accepted by the general public as scientific fact. I might also raise the question of ethical techniques, "I'll get the information I need another way" then sends a colleague to the land to gather the information under the pretense of being a hunter hunting on the land. Is that an ethical action of a true researcher?
We do need studies to test the accuracy of the history we have been taught. But to suggest revision based on pseudo-science will improve little and can damage our understanding of the past to build the future. Watch Scott's show, but take it for what it is entertainment.

criticizing a critic

3/26/2013 12:19:17 am

commenting on the "lets keep this civil" statement: I believe civility was left out when you spent the time to attack and badger a man who has earned his own due time and time again

Gooch

9/14/2013 12:23:52 am

Hey Phil, You couldn't be more wrong in my case. I questioned his credentials AFTER I saw his farce of a show and researched what a fantasy it was. If you want to educate yourself further, learn from people who bring more to the table than a lack of evidence and faulty logic. What a smack to the face to all the credentialed people who have devoted themselves to facts and are the ones who truly did the decades of study and work that we all benefit from! The very same people you scornfully call 'skeptics'! People have been carving lines longer than they could speak a language. And unlike today, people 1500 years ago didn't have TV and internet to watch until they waste away, they actually applied themselves constructively to great things and took great pride in the quality of their work. I know that concept is incredibly alien to anyone reared in the world of corporate attrition where quality declines in proportion to price increases as a function of time, in a race to squeeze every last drop of blood from every last turnip out there... but I guarantee that if your "king" threatened you with a brutal beating or death for poor work, and you had nothing else to do all day for your 25 year allotment of life, even you could carve out an impressive cube. Those people were hardly cro-magnon after all... That was hundreds of years after Rome was built. Just because a couch potato can't do it doesn't mean a highly skilled and properly motivated artisan can't. That kind of logic is the same that convinces deadbeats that they are smarter than everyone else because they are practiced at lying to other people like them and since they scorn or deny anyone who is not like them, and since people who see through them, avoid or ignore them, they see no evidence to the contrary. It's ridiculous! And highly intelligent people tend to underestimate their intelligence because they fail to realize the extreme shallowness of the average consciousness who spends their evenings smelling farts with Honey Boo Boo. That such a show exists at all should be a shame for all of humanity! Keep on educating yourself... It's obvious you're neither a teacher nor a student.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/14/2013 03:49:06 am

Hey, Gooch ...

In my entries (above and below) I consistently note that the "America Unearthed" H2 TV shows ... are TV SHOWS ... and I have nowhere affirmed their specific content and conclusions ... EXCEPT that they have some genuine value in getting people to think about North American History ...

So ... You have a precarious spot on your "high horse" (whoever you are) ...

larry

6/12/2014 03:24:44 pm

Mr. Wolter, my question concern's the fact that on most of your shows you keep bringing up Free Masons that being said with you being a geologist why do you Keep bringing up Masons in history. Instead of bringing up masonary in the past why don't you take the time and research the Mason's of today and learn the truth before you start spouting off on TV. By the way I am a Free Mason and Proud of it.

Louis Sheffield

1/25/2015 09:09:11 pm

I find that most scientists, especially geologists and paleontologists are whiny little bitches. Those who don't have discoveries of their own spend their time trying to discredit others. I think Scott Wolter's work is a great example of what science should be. Keep up the good work man and don't let the little bitches like Cavalito get you down.

Mauricio Do Carmo

2/5/2013 04:15:14 pm

Scott,
I find your show to be very entertaining and as a aspiring historian and writer many of the show topics interest me as well. I have always been of the thought that a lot of history has been wither forgotten or left out on purpose. For instance, I always thought the Vikings landed in North America centuries before Columbus. I recently read an article about the Kensington Rune Stone which you proved to be authentic, and I had never heard of it. Its pretty incredible the amount of things that can be discovered in our great nation.

-Mauricio

Jason Colavito link

2/5/2013 10:32:40 pm

Mauricio,
The Vikings DID land in North America hundreds of years before Colubmus. They had a colony at L'anse aux Meadows, in Newfoundland, known as Vinland. This is not in doubt, and speaking of it is no great stand against the weight of dogma.

Jeremy

6/7/2013 12:40:46 pm

I enjoy the show. Sure it is sensationalized... Most shows are. Some of the facts are sketchy yes. Maybe even completely untrue, but according to the show, the science has proved some of his claims true. Schools still teach (the ones in my area anyway) still teach that Columbus was the first European to discover the Americas, but he wasn't. Leif Erickson was. There was a Viking settlement in Newfoundland and it is the rumored Vinland... If that is true, then the Vikings and Leif Erickson were here almost 500 years before Columbus. But anyone with a brain knows this. I do believe there is a lot of history that we do not know, even in this country... I also believe no everything is correct. There are to many dependencies throughout history. It makes you think and it makes you challenge what you were taught. I think we need more shows like this and less of brainless reality shows where there is no thinking involved.

Scott brought up a good point. Was Meriwether Lewis murdered or was it suicide?? Well if he really was shot twice, I am pretty sure that it would be murder... Mostly because I do not know of anyone who has shot themselves twice to try and get the job done. If you fail at killing yourself with one shot, you fail at life. Where the Minoans in America? Well it is possible, the were avid mariners and they did have boats that could have made the journey. And how can you explain the bronze age if there wasn't enough copper in Europe to fuel it. Sure copper ore is found all over the world, but the largest deposits across the pond are in the Ural mountains in Russia and Africa. I have read many places where there wasn't enough copper in Europe or Asia to fuel it. Did it come from here?? Possibly, but no one will ever be able to prove it. I am just suggesting that there may be other variations of "the truth"...

Bimmerella

9/17/2013 08:37:11 pm

Maricio....as an aspiring historian, I'm going to suggest you do some research on what you accept as proof. Regurgitating what you hear, doesnt make you a historian. Asking questions and compiling what is known is a good start. Problem with Mr Wolter's theories, is that when you compare these claims with what is actually known, they just fall apart at the seams. How do I know? Because I wasn't satisfied just taking his word on known history. Neither was Jason, which is why he writes about it. Took me about 5 minutes to appreciate that my questioning nature, was right on. Don't worry, I researched Jason's arguments as well, and they held very nicely. I decided a long time ago to base my beliefs on proof. Anyone who asks me to do otherwise is up to no good. Aspire to find your own answers. Not just spew out what you heard on TV. If it interests you, look into it for yourself! That is how discoveries are made. Not by just following opinions of a guy on tv that seems to know his stuff. Don't sell your own intellect short!

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Kathleen Cooper

3/10/2013 05:26:42 pm

Don't stop doing what you're doing Scott. I've watched the "academic" community trash Robert Bauval and other that are trying to get history written properly. You degree or lack of one doesn't matter, you have backed up your hypothesis with valid data and have been willing to be wrong in front of millions. And you have been right most of the time. I think the Venus angle has moved in the time since the building was erected, like you imagined on the episode. It's just too bad that people out there want to remain in the dark and pretend that history is all correct at this time. Keep up the good work. It galls me that just because the Templars might have been here first you have to trash someone???? Get a life. There were plenty of people here before Columbus.

Kathleen Cooper

3/10/2013 05:31:08 pm

The previous reply had two typos and I didn't want anyone thinking I was too illiterate to spell correctly - so I've corrected them. LOL

Don't stop doing what you're doing Scott. I've watched the "academic" community trash Robert Bauval and others that are trying to get history written properly. Your degree or lack of one doesn't matter, you have backed up your hypothesis with valid data and have been willing to be wrong in front of millions. And you have been right most of the time. I think the Venus angle has moved in the time since the building was erected, like you imagined on the episode. It's just too bad that people out there want to remain in the dark and pretend that history is all correct at this time. Keep up the good work. It galls me that just because the Templars might have been here first you have to trash someone???? Get a life. There were plenty of people here before Columbus.

Roger Wilson

3/18/2013 06:08:21 pm

I'm sorry, Scott Wolter has NOT backed up any of his claims with data. I just watched the Templar Grail Or Maybe Treasure Or Maybe A Castle Too in Nova Scotia. What a pile of steaming pseudo-science. He looks at a cleaved boulder and claims--with no supportive analysis--that it could be part of a Templar castle.
Wolters looks at the tailings coming out of a well digger's auger and claims they are "fill". On my farm I use an auger to dig post holes and the tailings (especially during drought years) come out exactly like those shown in this episode. Not fill, just dirt.
Of course there were people here before Columbus, millions of them Everyone knows this; Wolter gets no credit for claiming this.

Richard LaFortune link

3/27/2013 01:59:58 am

uh, yeah, like 100 million Native people - and my people have been here for 10,000 years, thank you very much

Bimmerella

9/17/2013 09:06:26 pm

Kathleen...I fail to see one shred of valid data. Hypothesis, yes....beyond that pure speculation. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. I don't have a problem believing something if there is real quantifiable proof. I get a little pissy when people take issue with folks not believing something unless there is proof. Here we are to discuss the proof or lack of it. That's how I landed here. Because I questioned what didn't seem legit to me. Jason has laid it out very nicely, why he feels it doesnt wash. Backed it up too! And hell yes I checked out what he said. I only choose to believe what can be proven. Doesnt mean I don't enjoy theories, or imagining what might have happened, but touting unproven details as fact, using shady pseudoscience as proof, well that isnt just flawed science, its dangerous. Our dogged pursuit of answers to our questions, is what keeps us moving along the evolutionary chain.

Ken

3/23/2013 01:42:40 pm

Scott, do not argue with a fool; someone observing the argument wouldn't be able to tell the diference.

Alan

7/12/2013 05:01:38 pm

There weren't millions of native americans in pre-Columbus America. There aren't evidence of large societies or large farming and food production to support those numbers. Charles Mann writes in his book '1491', "that looking at America based on land mass and fossils and determining the large occupations numbers of being 10-20 million; is likened to looking at an empty bank account and saying, there must have been several million dollars in this account at one time". No large food production and storage capabilities have ever been found.

Del Ehresman

3/24/2013 07:05:40 pm

Scott:

Several hours ago I became aware of you and America Unearthed. While watching the episode about the Roanoke settlement and its disappearance I learned you were from Minnesota and, out of curiosity, I wanted to learn more about you. I grew up in South Dakota and went to college in Minnesota and earned a master's degree and a law degree elsewhere. Part of my curiosity was whether you had an affiliation with my alma mater in Minnesota, or perhaps with the University of Minnesota in the Twin Cities. Apparently not.

Jason's blog is the second website I looked at after googling "Scott Wolter."

Please note I have no animus in any particular direction. I am a “newbie” to you, your research, and the program.

However, I find your comments about a purported master's degree to be weirdly self-serving and self-deceiving.

Jason states you received a bachelor's degree in 1982. If so, the supposed honorary degree was awarded five years later.

What did you do between 1982 and 1987 to merit such an honorary award? Honorary degrees usually are awarded for a notable set of achievements over a lengthy period of time.

From what you have written here, you wrote a book that was published in 1986. From what you have written here, I assume this book was written during the two years you were an unemployed geologist -- a period of grieving and stupefaction.

It stretches credulity to say the degree was because you answered "technical questions" to the satisfaction of six professors.

One matter you did not discuss -- why you claimed for 16 years that you had such a master's degree. Presumably you had some sort of active role in deciding that a cup of coffee with whipped cream was a master's degree. Presumably you also had an active role in stating (writing) that the cup of coffee was a master's degree.

Reminds me of a person I once knew who, while running for political office, claimed to have been in the Peace Corps. After a bit of digging by someone else, that person was forced to acknowledge that the reality was a bit of "Peace Corps-like activity for a few weeks" in South America.

Perhaps you can address more directly the circumstances by which you claimed a master's degree and how it came to be part of your online biographies and your AIPG profile (assuming Jason is accurate in his assertions about your biographies).

Please note that I am not making any judgments about the rest of your background, your research methods, your TV show(s), and other such matters.

I just think you need to be more forthright about a very relevant item that may or may not be accurate.

Jack Madison link

5/18/2013 04:31:32 am

I think a lot of you are forgetting that the company Scott was working for placed the Honorary Degree on their website. Without explanation this could seem suspect until further explanation.

These type of Honorary degrees happen all the time...when a group of scholars removed from their own universities honor another person by bestowing a "Master of His/Her Profession."
I only have a BS in psychology but during a seminar at my alma mater a group of professors gave me a "Master of my profession" certificate. Simply stated, it was a tiny honor of a group of scholars recognizing that over the years I have done enough research into my profession to merit an understanding of "mastering" my profession, so to speak.

What many here may not be aware of is this happens all the time through many different professions. It is not necessarily an honorary masters degree, rather, an understanding that one has received accolades which fall in line with mastering their profession.

Considering that Mr. Wolter has done his due diligence in his field and is attempting to illuminate us on probabilities regarding American history, I find it unfortunate people would want to attack him.
Scott may have sensationalized part of his resume to garner more respect for what he has interest in......Oh no, what a crime! If we all had a spotlight placed upon us for doing the same thing in our resume's I am quite sure there would be embarrassment to spare.

Give the man a break. Mr. Wolter is correct in stating that the history we were taught is wrong...that is true. At least what he is doing is trying to show us something we did not already know and do it in an interesting way.
When was the last time you had your own show?
Leave the guy alone and don't be so critical, because usually it is the critics that are only showing the part of themselves they don't like.

Jack Madison link

5/18/2013 04:33:33 am

I think a lot of you are forgetting that the company Scott was working for placed the Honorary Degree on their website. Without explanation this could seem suspect until further explanation.

These type of Honorary degrees happen all the time...when a group of scholars removed from their own universities honor another person by bestowing a "Master of His/Her Profession."
I only have a BS in psychology but during a seminar at my alma mater a group of professors gave me a "Master of my profession" certificate. Simply stated, it was a tiny honor of a group of scholars recognizing that over the years I have done enough research into my profession to merit an understanding of "mastering" my profession, so to speak.

What many here may not be aware of is this happens all the time through many different professions. It is not necessarily an honorary masters degree, rather, an understanding that one has received accolades which fall in line with mastering their profession.

Considering that Mr. Wolter has done his due diligence in his field and is attempting to illuminate us on probabilities regarding American history, I find it unfortunate people would want to attack him.
Scott may have sensationalized part of his resume to garner more respect for what he has interest in......Oh no, what a crime! If we all had a spotlight placed upon us for doing the same thing in our resume's I am quite sure there would be embarrassment to spare.

Give the man a break. Mr. Wolter is correct in stating that the history we were taught is wrong...that is true. At least what he is doing is trying to show us something we did not already know and do it in an interesting way.
When was the last time you had your own television show?
Leave the guy alone and don't be so critical, because usually it is the critics that are only showing the part of themselves they don't like.

Jack Madison link

5/18/2013 04:33:52 am

I think a lot of you are forgetting that the company Scott was working for placed the Honorary Degree on their website. Without explanation this could seem suspect until further explanation.

These type of Honorary degrees happen all the time...when a group of scholars removed from their own universities honor another person by bestowing a "Master of His/Her Profession."
I only have a BS in psychology but during a seminar at my alma mater a group of professors gave me a "Master of my profession" certificate. Simply stated, it was a tiny honor of a group of scholars recognizing that over the years I have done enough research into my profession to merit an understanding of "mastering" my profession, so to speak.

What many here may not be aware of is this happens all the time through many different professions. It is not necessarily an honorary masters degree, rather, an understanding that one has received accolades which fall in line with mastering their profession.

Considering that Mr. Wolter has done his due diligence in his field and is attempting to illuminate us on probabilities regarding American history, I find it unfortunate people would want to attack him.
Scott may have sensationalized part of his resume to garner more respect for what he has interest in......Oh no, what a crime! If we all had a spotlight placed upon us for doing the same thing in our resume's I am quite sure there would be embarrassment to spare.

Give the man a break. Mr. Wolter is correct in stating that the history we were taught is wrong...that is true. At least what he is doing is trying to show us something we did not already know and do it in an interesting way.
When was the last time you had your own television show?
Leave the guy alone and don't be so critical, because usually it is the critics that are only showing the part of themselves they don't like.

Jack Madison link

5/18/2013 04:35:18 am

Brent

3/29/2013 08:34:34 am

My has many times called me a genius.

He is a member of Mensa.

I do not claim to be a genius.

michelle pinto

4/20/2013 09:30:34 pm

Dear Scott,
I would like to thank you for doing your show and Im a big fan. I do know that from my personal experience getting a degree is one thing but field experience is where it really counts. So it really doesnt matter how many degrees you have. Keep up the great work others are just haters. Thank you, Michelle Pinto

Jane taylor

5/1/2013 03:04:07 pm

You deserve all the degrees you earned, but I want to add a degree for explaining your theories in such a wonderfully delightful way.

One of my favorite Science Series on TV.

Aaron

5/20/2013 02:50:21 am

"Science Show" LOL

Jack Madison link

5/4/2013 06:59:12 pm

I love "America Unearthed." I have watched each episode with great interest. As a 45 year old man I realize that television isn't going to be perfect and that editing is going to be, for the most part, sensationalized.
But the material brought forth is interesting and I am glad that someone like Scott Wolter is heading up a show like this. Who cares what degrees someone has, it only has to do with intellectual curiosity and passion.
Even in high school I always wondered why vast swaths of material were seemingly left out of history class. I would get into trouble because of my passionate curiosity.
Go ahead Scott, change history, a lot of us are rooting for you!

Michelle

2/14/2015 12:42:21 pm

Scott,

This country does not like their religion and theories exposed. Please continue to disprove the canned history America that has been shoved down our throats - hiding the truth i.e., Custard murdered women and children to Columbus thinking this country was undiscovered. I support you in all your endeavors. Pay no attention to these nay sayers that most likely believe The New King James Version of the bible as truth. I'm rooting for you!

R.J. Smythe

5/18/2013 03:53:08 am

@ Scott F. Wolter: You sir are a liar who has been committing a fraud upon the public. It is possibly even a case of Criminal Fraud as you have been claiming a degree for professional purposes to which you have no academic claim. Your claim to an "Honorary Masters Degree" has no more validity than if I as an Anthropology PhD candidate who has decided to remain ABD were to attempt to profit financially and professionally by claiming to be a Professor of Anthropology. The title of Doctor can only be used if one has OFFICIALLY been conferred a Doctorate. As I choose not to defend my dissertation I cannot in any legal sense call my self a Doctor of Anthropology. Regardless of the so called "honorary Degrees" someone lauds me with while having a cup of coffee.

@Kristi Derubies: Regardless of how correct or incorrect history is the fact remains that America Unearthed does not in any way relate facts concerning American history. It does not even rise to level of legitimate conjecture. Legitimate conjecture would be the argument whether the Clovis people were the earliest people to immigrated to North America or if there was a possibly earlier migration. The idea of Mithras worshippers in the southwest of the US is ridicules hokum being passed of by the racists who are still trying to claim that white Europeans taught the Native Americans their culture. That is just one example ( Episode "Deadly Sacrifice ) of the nonsense this show and this man are trying to pass off as history, science and truth.

Michael Shehan

6/18/2013 03:41:22 pm

Mr. Wolter,

I've always been interested in our country's history. I have studied history--particularly the Civil War and Archeology. I was quite shocked on some of the ideas you have presented with evidence in the series. I've always wondered if it were possible for peoples from other continents to come to the "New World" either by exploration, persecution, following the "food", etc and just by traveling wind up across the Bering Strait or by dangerous trip by Boat such as the Vikings. How did they know what was over here in the first place before the "normal" discoverers..

The point of your show is simple. Showing the possibilities and theories of other peoples that migrate to the new world. I could never understand why the archeologists and geologists typically follow the standard "dogma" of what happened. My only "complaint" about the series (although you may only have 50 minutes to present the idea) is more evidence--Hard evidence. I would love to see something that is supported by evidence that would be difficult to disprove--even though all it takes is one to ruin a theory.

I really enjoy your series and hope you will present more pre-columbian examples. If you can present more evidence that ties the Freemasons and the locations here other than the "X". Would it be possible to have an episode about the Indians that spoke (Gaelic or Welsh -- I don't recall). That blew my mind and asked, how is that possible???

Thank you for opening my eyes and improving my scrutiny and forcing me to use the scientific method to try and understand what you were presenting in this series.

Good Luck to you in your second season. I await to learn more about "what I haven't been told".

Michael Shehan
B.A. Computer Science
Minor Astrophysics

Michelle

2/14/2015 12:43:49 pm

Well written Michael

Bruce Hedquist, P.L.S. (Ret.)

7/12/2013 08:41:07 am

Scott, I've been watching your TV program "America Unearthed". I enjoy it immensely! I've also done some research on your past. It's quite interesting. I can relate to your "honorary masters" degree. I've also struggled to get not one but two different M.Sc. degrees over three decades with no more than transcripts of engineering and science courses amounting to five plus years of full time graduate studies, incl. many pre-doc courses, but no degree! I also liked the article about you written in a 2001 UMD alumni newsletter. Scott, keep up the good search. Screw your detractors!!

Lynn Robinson

7/12/2013 09:16:27 am

SCOTT, one of the first things MY professors shared with me and my fellow grad students in cultural anthropology, is you must publish (not for the general public) but in the scientific journals of your peers. Hence, interactive scientific discussions can occur...giving one a yea or nay to one's work...New ideas can be shared that you may not have thought of or your peers haven't thought about. Not to mention, even being published in a journal gives the scientist more credence.

Such reviews are vital to scientific thought . Being published for the national public should come after scientific review. Have you been published in a scientific journal within your specialty?

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 10:00:03 am

Wolter has stated that he has created his own peer review process for his work. He has not published in academic journals about any of the subjects he discusses on his show.

joe

7/3/2014 01:06:16 pm

Is there any doubt that Jason Colavito is a liberal? As such, he is unhappy, unattractive and simply angry. Think Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, Weiner or any of the other hideously ugly and horrendously hateful people who call themselves liberals. For sure, Jason Colavito is jealous and angry that he, a hateful libtard, does not have his own TV show. At most, a few thousand people read this idiotic blog, while millions watch Wolter. If I found out that Jason killed his gay lover after a night of binge drinking, I would not be surprised in any way.

Lauri Boivin

7/13/2013 10:50:32 am

Hi Scott,

I just watched the show about the Mustang Mt. cave and runestone found there. Why did you not immediately offer any opinion on whether or not the inscribed sandstone was identical to the Staffordshire sandstone in the caves you visited in England ( ie a transplant from there and therefore potentially a hoax) or whether or not the stone was identical to formations in the Mustang Mountains? It is an easy enough observation for any geologist to make visually, and also easy enough to confirm further with more in-depth scientific methods. This would be the very first thing any decent field geologist would notice or observe at the sites you visited, it seems, and would be the first pertinent information to deliver to any curious investigator. Thanks for your hoped-for reply.

A fellow geologist

Harold Fleenor

7/15/2013 09:45:31 am

Scott, Just a few words of encouragement to keep up the work. I live outside Louisville, Ky and have always been fascinated with our own local legend of Welsh Prince Madoc, Sadly I recently ran across a statement that the state of Indiana has declared that any pre-columbian discoveries were not to be presented as such, Such a prohibition is ludicrous in the extreme, and sounds like the last shriek on the retreat against people like yourself who are attempting to uncover the truth, Stay the course,

stephen

8/23/2013 04:56:24 am

Scott,
After watching your show I am curious. You traveled to many different places looking for the grail, but when you found that old well you and the diver found what appeared to be a chamber. Why did you not dig any further on the site? I realize you found fill dirt from the drill,but from the well found a chamber. Why not go in from the well or continue to dig from the drilling location? Is it not possible that the grail could be buried? Or did someone or a group make you quit? I wish you would fill in the gaps.

Ge Ki

8/23/2013 08:25:57 am

Stephen, allow me to speculate: Scott Wolter didn't really believe that the Holy Grail was there in the first place. He knows his "research" is full of crap (divining rods! - need I say more). So Wolter stopped digging because he knew he had enough video for a crappy show. Anybody with solid evidence would not have stopped. Even if they ran out of money, they could have raised more with solid evidence. Would Verizon pass up the chance to sponsor the discovery and world tour of "The Verizon Holy Grail"? Heck no.

Acteon

8/23/2013 09:34:59 am

Hello,

Is there any chance you could use bigger fonts on your show: "America Unearthed" ? Despite the fact that I have a fairly large TV screen, I need to stand within 1 foot away to read the tiny writing on the screen. There's plenty of room to make the writing bigger.

Susan Hays link

8/24/2013 07:22:23 pm

I fine it very frustrating that people question that Europeans and others made their way to North and South America long before Columbus. A lot of societies were very accomplished seafaring peoples so why wouldn't they have "found" North America? Open your minds people, stop and let other explanations be presented to you. It's amazing what you might learn!!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/28/2013 05:04:31 pm

My friend and colleague, Scott Wolter, is a gracious, generous, and honorable person ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/18/2013 05:04:07 am

IOW ... It was a harmless innocent misunderstanding that has been *cleared*up* ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/27/2013 11:30:06 am

My personal friend and professional colleague (for 25+ years), Scott Wolter, is an honest man … He ISN'T a god, so he isn't PERFECT and doesn't know everything about everything … But I am not ashamed to be known as his friend and colleague ...

Ge Ki

10/27/2013 03:53:52 pm

Jeez, "Reverend," for someone who keeps telling us to drop the issue, you sure do like to go on about it. It's been a few days now since the last anti-Wolters comment, and here you are, back again to excuse your buddy for lying on his resume. Next time you bitch that we should just "let it go," just look in the mirror. As for me, I sure wish I could tolerate lying the way you can. So much for your 10 Commandments, ay? And you still haven't answered my question: Would you teach kids that it's OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree?

April

12/1/2013 12:10:48 am

Dear Scott,

I just started watching your show on youtube (I don't watch TV anymore). Whenever I read the comments, I'm actually embarrassed and angry that these people can just glaze of history and artifacts without even looking fully at all the evidence. It seems to be a common theme to do this for any type of history or archeology that goes against the grain of traditional viewpoints and theories. In my opinion these comments deflate and narrow the ability for humanity to understand the full spectrum of history that includes all the evidence and all the viewpoints. I've several books on forbidden archeology and I'm flabbergasted at the wealth of documented evidence that has been buried due to these professionals in the field who have the clout to bury the history. I truly believe they do a disservice to humanity, and I highly suspect there is a very well organized cover up to hide very keen aspects of our evolution as a species.

In season two, you had the possibility of a giant skeleton at one interviewees farmland. I'm wondering if there is anyway you can use some type of xray or sonar equipment to take a picture of this skeleton buried there to see if it really exists.

I also want to know if you checked into any of the other stories regarding giants in the Ohio valley, Nevada and Arizona. There are quite a few archeologists who have postulated that there was another race of human beings along side the Native Americans who were completely barbaric and came from another country, perhaps the UK or some other place. I just wanted your opinion on this topic and whether you have come across anymore of this information?

Kasie K.

12/19/2013 02:32:08 am

Mr. Wolter, I enjoy your theories and I admire you for stepping away from the mainstream. Keep doing what you're doing. Everyone has critics.

josephs

1/6/2014 11:50:27 am

you admire him for lying about established facts? When you say "everyone has critics", you clearly want to equate him to Isaac Newton or similar, when it could equally, and more appropriately apply to David Icke...

Jon Bryant

12/23/2013 06:46:38 pm

Scott, I'm a long time fan and enjoy your TV shows a lot. I don't agree with everything I see/hear on your shows, but they are interesting and definitely provoke thought and discussion. An interest of mine is the "early man controversy" ......when did man first appear in North America? Have you ever investigated, or do you plan to investigate, the Early Man site at Calico, California, or the Texas Street archeological site in San Diego, California? These are only two of many sites in North America that provide evidence (in great dispute) of human habitation in North America dating back 200,000 years or so. I've read about these different sites and the differing and conflicting interpretations of the "evidence" of early human presence in North America. I would like to see a program such as yours explore this controversy, and expose these sites and explain the evidence/artifacts found in them. I think it would be a very interesting topic and would evoke lots of controversy (just what you need more of !! :) )

Mike Hover

1/3/2014 05:07:28 am

"terry the censor
-02/13/2013 11:41pm
Kristi, you are implying that since science can't be 100% correct, therefore Scott Wolter's work is factual and scientifically sound..."

By THAT stretch, "Terry the censor" is implying that Colum really DID discover America, AND Jesus is White too.

Tara Jordan link

1/5/2014 01:48:32 pm

Scott.
In layman`s word,you only have an issue with individuals who are critical of your crappy“researches”.I don't understand your psychology,you have such low esteem of academia,yet you have no problem using an “honorary” degree to boost your own credentials.You complain about being the victim of personal & nefarious attacks,but you are engaged in a vendetta against academics & scientists.The same academics & scientists you accuse of "suppressing & covering the truth".
Is there something such as coherence,consistence & intellectual honesty in Scott Wolter`s world?.I think it is pointless to bring you before the court of public opinion,much less the law, you just take the fifth and drink it.

joe

7/3/2014 01:15:19 pm

Tara, I doubt that you, as a GUARANTEED liberal, has any problem with Clinton having sex with a 20 year old, and for sure you don't care that obama is a thieving, lying, low IQ moron who lies about every aspect of his life, except his rampant and felonious use of illegal drugs. Why hold Scott W. to a higher standard than your hero libtards? Are you demanding Obama be removed from office because he won't admit he is muslim, or admit he is a homosexual? Are you upset that michelle Obama is really a man whose penis shows in many photos? No, these FACTS don't bother you but the fact that Scott Wolter plays the libtard game and lies bothers you?

Trey

1/11/2014 05:26:49 pm

Americanegro

9/4/2016 01:06:28 am

Trey,

I am extraordinarily interested in your thoughts on this subject. Could you please the same effing thing over and over so I don't miss it? There's a lamb!

Trey

1/11/2014 05:27:04 pm

Trey

1/11/2014 05:27:30 pm

Trey

1/11/2014 05:28:53 pm

Trey

1/11/2014 05:29:01 pm

Trey

1/11/2014 05:29:13 pm

Daryl L. Hunter link

1/12/2014 04:43:01 am

The history channel is selling fiction and I'm glad Jason is calling foul. Jason's knowledge on the subject is needed.

Because I smelled something wrong with an episode I googled Scott up and learned the truth about him now I now longer wast my time at America Unearthed.

There is a place for fictional programing but it isn't on the history channel.

Trey - I care about the truth, the better question is - Why don't you?

Trey

1/12/2014 05:04:30 am

Its not that I don't care about the truth.....my point is why you people waste your time talking about someone who has no affect on your personal lives. He does not take money from you, the show does not affect your personal relationships, it shouldn't hinder your endeavors. So why waste your time on him? Go out and spend your time productively and contribute something to society.

Look man all I'm trying to say to Jason is that he seems to be an intelligent person, who, if attempted, could contribute much to the historic community and to future students if he channeled his energy to something that would actually be productive. Instead of (in my opinion) making others look bad and making himself look better - (that is my opinion of anyone who digs up dirt on a person they do not personally know and has and shouts there findings from a website). Writing his comments about this show and Scott personally accomplishes nothing.....nothing. The show continues, Scott gets out of bed and goes to work, and the world turns. And the same for you Daryl, what did you accomplish by researching him on the internet? Do you feel better about yourself because you found some stuff on the internet that supports your ideas , un-challenged by anyone in the room that could offer a counter argument? Do you feel like a better person for going online and posting this "truth" you found on him? What has he done to you? Would you like people from your job, or church, or sport teams ...whatever to go online, research you and post some stuff they think they found about your work and what you contribute to your employer? What makes you and Jason the almighty beings that can cast judgment on others just because you don't agree with them? Have you studied the same studies as Scott, do you have the same degree, have you matched his body of work? who knows....except you. And more importantly who cares. Until you and Jason have your show, publish some literature that changes history or does something contributive to society than you have no right to judge others or dig up dirt on anyone.

Trey

1/12/2014 05:04:37 am

Jason Colavito link

1/12/2014 05:24:28 am

Trey, do you complain that the Todd VanDerWerff at the Onion's AV Club are "obsessed" with NBC's "Parenthood" because he writes 2,000-3,000 words a week on a mere TV show, analyzing each episode?

I spend 90 minutes a week reviewing episodes of TV that more than 1.2 million people watch and are therefore influential. I've done the same with Ancient Aliens since July 2011.

I also have published three books professionally, with two more due out this year, including a monumental historical study of Greek mythology. I also hold down a full time job, and I've worked on NY State's 9/11 memorial exhibition, written a speech delivered at the United Nations, and many other things.

If I find it entertaining to dissect a TV show that makes stupid claims about an area of history I am interested in for a few minutes once a week, I would hardly call it an obsession or a waste of time.

Trey

1/12/2014 05:45:02 am

Jason,

This is my point...thank you for providing it. That point is that you develop these "judgments" on peers in an area of if history that your interested in. Then, in my opinion, cast doubt on them to draw attention to yourself. Why did you feel the need to tell me how much time you spend watching TV, or how "monumental" your research on Greek mythology is, or your contributions to 9/11 (which I appreciate greatly btw - anyone's contributions to the loss of my brothers and their families has a special place in my heart) , speech's to the UN, none of which have anything to do with what we are talking about. Have I written what I do for a living? What kind of degree I have or don't have? What accomplishments I may or may not have accomplished? No, because I don't feel the need for others to tell me how awesome I am, or how smart I am. It appears sir, that you crave attention and validation from the masses.

And yes I do have an issue with people criticizing others on things they have never done personally. Would you take investment and retirement advice from a hairdresser? I doubt it. If you were getting a haircut and your hairdresser overheard your conversation with your financial advisor and started spilling his ideas and thoughts and how your making all these bad investments would you listen? I doubt it, I bet like most people you would first think "if you are so good at investments, then why are you cutting hair".

Now, with that being said, I have no problems with people doing their jobs. These shows hire critics, to help them better target their intended audience. Has Scott hired you? Has he paid you to give your "professional advice"? If he has then I apologize sir.

Trey

1/12/2014 05:45:15 am

Jason Colavito link

1/12/2014 05:50:06 am

I told you that, Trey, precisely because you asked. Note that I didn't bring it up until you insinuated that I did not write books, do work, etc. I was replying to your direct question.

Trey

1/12/2014 06:01:00 am

It was not meant to be a question. It was meant as a statement towards your time spent tying 60,000 words on this website, time spent publishing 1000's of articles debunking A.U. the time spent traveling to his sites to de-bunk him, the time spent watching the shows that you despise, the time you spend writing these reviews. That's what I meant.

Jason Colavito link

1/12/2014 06:07:53 am

We can learn even from what we dislike, and debunking America Unearthed is a learning experience. It makes me sharper. You seem to think there is this deep emotional connection I have to the show, which is belied by the fact that I've been doing similar work since 2001, when I used to debunk Graham Hancock back when he was popular. I find it fun to pick apart bad ideas. It's how we separate bad ideas from good ideas.

Trey

1/12/2014 06:16:27 am

Hey man, Ive got no problem with that. And I would agree...100%. But that's not what your doing here. You've invoked such a argument and dug up enough dirt where this man is trying (or attempted to) sue you. And all for what? So some people can think what?????? That's all Im trying to say.

However I now know your an author and we share some similar interests, I'll look up your publications. I also look forward to your latest one on Greek Mythology, once its published.

Joe Sesto

1/13/2014 06:35:09 am

Scott, I watched your 12/2013 episode on the Norsemen last night. It occurred to me that most in the historic community would know that the correct name for the Smithsonian is the Smithsonian Institution and it was called the Institute at least 3 times on that show. Also it is not pronounced New..fund..lund. It is New..found..land. I am not qualified to comment on the scientific or historic value of your show...but if your research is not extensive enough to determine basic facts, known for centuries...it puts the legitimacy of your research in question.

Dr. Tod

4/30/2014 05:45:03 pm

Joe,

Are you kidding me? New-fund-land is a common and widely used pronunciation. With all the material you have to attack Wolter on, you chose that?

bill pless

2/2/2014 01:09:34 am

Scott, degree or no degree, its the study and hard work you put into doing your job that counts....as a retired Baptist preacher, I neither have or have had a degree in theology, but 2 years of seminar and countless years of studying the Holy Bible, needless to say I don't know it all but will stand toe to toe with anyone re: scripture.
I thoroughly enjoy your show and hope you continue it for years, as I have learned so much about the history of our country, not learned in school, whether all the answers are there or not.
Keep up the good work and may God continue to bless you and your family real good

Rev. Bill Pless

Bruce Rich

2/9/2014 02:26:57 pm

I think I have an idea as to how to get view of the cave in the Grand canyon episode. There are a type of RC pilot that fly FPV (First Person View). I could see some of them being able to help and at least get an outside view of the cave. If the cave is there and looks right someone could always go forward later. Is it possible to get the cords of the cliff top?

JAMES G NICHOLS JR

2/14/2014 05:39:21 pm

Scott, I realize that having a fancy diploma is pretty popular (I don't have one) but in the end it's your knowledge that's the key to what you do, whether or not it's printed on parchment. I'm constantly shocked by "scientists" who will only recognize accomplishments and discoveries made by people who attended famous colleges and stuck to what the textbooks said.

Truth is that only the wild thinkers make revolutionary discoveries. The rest will just sit in their offices and criticize from afar.

Kudos to you, Scott.

Sincerely,

James Nichols

Jason Rumsey

2/22/2014 05:22:10 am

Scott,

Thank you for the reply first of all, second I would like to say that I was not discrediting the accomplishment of getting a higher education, in fact I firmly believe in it. Before my wife of 10 years passed in 2010 she had received a Master's Degree in Chemistry and graduated Magna Cumludia (however you spell it) so I understand the importance of it. My problem with the whole situation is that there seems to be a growing number of people that have forgotten the reason to get the education in the first place "Knowledge". I myself have significant credit hours in college(120+) and if I can I will continue to educate myself until the day they put me in the ground. All I am saying is this, a degree does a person no good if all they do with it is put it on a wall and don't take what they have learned and put it to practical use. I have seen first hand that if you put people in positions power who's sole endgame is to make money or power and not truth and integrity, then the degree that the person has worked for means nothing (in the realm of history).

Jason Rumsey

2/22/2014 05:26:58 am

Rick S MBA

4/12/2014 07:13:12 pm

Dear Scott:
Please clarify how two separate groups can lay claim to the infamous "hooked x"? Does the t mean that the Norse were Templars or that the Templars were Norse or that History has been wrong and they were one in the same? That is quite a conundrum! Which publication of Runic translations illustrates the "hooked X" as I am still searching. Thank you

Mr. E

9/23/2014 10:56:57 am

Kathryn Zambito

1/18/2015 01:00:09 pm

Hi Scott,
I've watched many of your shows and have enjoyed them. Your curiosity is infectious and your intelligence is apparent. Tonight I googled your name because I saw an older episode on H2 where you investigate the Rune stone and I wanted to know (silly stuff) like your age, and personal bio, as I find you to be a personable, caring, articulate and good looking human being. That being said, I was very surprised to see Jason's blog pop up first.
Surprisingly I became overly interested in the varying comments made. Thoughts, perceptions and feelings sure do run the gamut! They made me think and wonder as I too have an open mind as well as you and I have nothing to prove, debunk, or boast about my degrees or superiority as a person.
Upon reading the post you submitted to Jason I felt compelled to respond because you showed a depth of character that greatly surpasses the highest degree; you show yourself to be an upright man, a compassionate individual and decent all around person(even posted your cell phone number--wow!) so along with your knowledge, you have transparency. Kudos to you!
Almost each person rang a tad of truth in me, but aren't many missing the point? It's an H2 production. They must do background checks and found you fit for the job! They put this show in the air, they pull us in with the title and promos, they do the editing, NOT YOU! So I want to say: People, Lay Off the criticism and focus on the REAL problems in this country, in this world! Scott is hosting a show in discovery that keeps us in our armchair exploring and thinking. It's entertaining! Okay? Thanks Scott, and wishing you the best in your travels!

Kathryn Z

Dolores

3/30/2015 11:24:49 pm

I hear you Scott. I have several academic degrees but the one degree I am most proud of is not an academic degree but actually one my children presented to me on Mother's Day one year. It said: M.O.M. Underneath that it read: Master's of Motherhood.

Lillian Zachar

8/13/2015 06:46:27 pm

Scott,
I've recently become disabled and find myself watching entirely too much T.V., however, I discovered your show and glad I did. My body may not be qualified to give any statements these days but my mind is. All these harsh comments. I'll tell you what I see. A father, husband and provider who seems to have a completely open mind about our Country because NO ONE on this blog was there 3000-5000 years ago. If you find something, awesome. If you don't, you dust yourself off and try again. Kudos. You're still a great dad and husband and educator. And if anyone has an issue with that, don't watch. It's called free will. The nasty comments are from very immature people. Of that I am certain. Please continue to keep my brain occupied with all that you do. We love your show.

Shawn link

2/5/2016 12:04:12 am

Wow there is definitely some hostility towards you. Remember this, pity is for the weak, but jealousy you have to earn.
I enjoy your shows, keep up the good work.

Americanegro

9/4/2016 12:28:07 am

Scott, you're making more typos than usual tonight. Hitting the gin harder than most days? Fist clenched in rage?

It was a cup of coffee and a joke, not even a "sympathy degree". It would take a giant retard of antedeluvian size to put that on his resume. You took it off when people started checking and found out that you put a NON-EXISTENT DEGREE ON YOUR RESUME. Until you took it off you were PROVABLY a fraud. Now, because of past fraud, you are only PROBABLY a (current) fraud.

Telling the story (which I suspect is a LIE) doesn't make you look any better.

I trust this criticism will "harden" your "resolve" and yes we all know that's Templar/Freemason sex code. 23 Skidoo!

Scott F. Wolter link

1/22/2013 01:06:44 pm

Yes Jason, I was joking.

C.Moore Duncan

11/25/2013 08:17:07 pm

Why is Jason such a pecker neck ?

Ray

12/1/2013 07:32:19 pm

And why is it that sad people like you go into a blog just to call other people names? Get a life.

C.Moore Duncan

12/10/2013 09:38:56 am

Hey Ray , I was not calling Jason names I was describing him . I have a life Ray and am tired of worn out phrases like " Get a Life " .

George link

1/22/2013 01:31:23 pm

Oh my God this was delicious.

John J. McKay link

1/22/2013 03:17:27 pm

I think this has been a model of how we would like these things to turn out. At least, you and I, Jason. Unfortunately, most of the people I write about are dead so I don't expect to hear from them. I would not consider some adolescent girl cracking her toe knuckles under the table to be a genuine meeting of the minds.

Scott, I'd love to have you stick around and talk to some of the rest of us from time to time. If you ever do anything on mammoths, you must call me.

Tara Jordan

1/22/2013 04:25:02 pm

"I would not consider some adolescent girl cracking her toe knuckles under the table to be a genuine meeting of the minds.".

Non sequitur,John.I am not even a post adolescent ;)

John J. McKay link

1/23/2013 02:31:30 pm

It wasn't a reference to you. I meant the Fox Sisters. They were two girls in pre-Civil War New England who communed with the spirits. Turned out the mysterious knocking that people heard during their seances was on of the girls cracking her toe knuckles under the table.

Tara Jordan

1/23/2013 03:02:51 pm

John, Quite a funny story, I wonder if Giorgo Tsukalos is capable of generating ectoplasm?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/9/2013 03:12:21 pm

I have it on good authority that "Giorgio" uses "ectoplasm" for his hair gel -- which explains a LOT, I think ...

getalifeloser

2/22/2014 05:46:00 am

I have seen you do nothing but call everyone but your boyfriend Jason Colavito ignorant and stupid! If that is the way you want to go okay, that's fine. You just prove the point that your an academic and nothing more, you have no interest in knowing if what is told to you is the truth or not and you have no dreams of changing the world. You have never and will never make your own way, you will always follow the majority and you will never be a trailblazer. You have wasted your life and to be honest I would hope that you would seek treatment and therapy to find out why you are this way. I hope the best for you Tara but I don't think it will happen for you. The world is getting tired of yes men/women, now we want the truth, no matter what the cost.

Dolores

3/30/2015 11:47:10 pm

Then why do you talk like you are 22?

Dolores

3/30/2015 11:46:15 pm

Yes John J McKay, I address that very issue in my upcoming book...too many academics don't have the cojones to tackle a person's theories while they are alive but when they die said academic "greats" have all kinds of criticism and epithets for them!

Tara Jordan

1/23/2013 03:52:08 am

Jason. There is a growing proportion of the American public that is totally incapable of locating Egypt (I am not even talking about the Giza plateau) on a world map,yet they systematically associate this archeological site with aliens visitations,new age fringe sciences & esoteric garbage.Don`t get me wrong,I love Science fiction & horror literature, but there is one big difference,Lovecraft and Derleth never claimed to write scientific books, Ancient Aliens theorists and American Unearthed "experts" pretend they are actually engage in a scientific process...

Cory

3/19/2013 09:17:35 pm

Okay Tara, I have read enough from you. Please, with all of your wisdom; tell us what "you" think the purpose of the pyramids are?...As for you bashing Scott Wolter and the people following him and his quest; GET BENT!!! You are a narrow minded individual, that will sadly be in Washington D.C. one day making our nations policies. For someone to sound like such a know-it-all and be as narrow minded as you may be you need to open your eyes to the world around you. You know that after school special saying "knowledge is power"...That has been proven, all the way back from the cro magnon and neanderthal age. Did you ever ask yourself, what happened to the knowledge in Alexander's library or Genghis Khan's prized possessions? I, and other like minded people do ask questions like that! This does not make us a retard or three (not 3) degrees away from understanding. The freemasons are a living a breathing entity; this I can contest too. It is called "HIS STORY" for a reason.
One more thing Tara and Jason...you do NOT need a degree to be intelligent or educated. You are arguing over semantics, and that is just dumb! A honorary degree is still earned just like any other degree. However in my opinion, an honorary degree will always be more reputable than any bought degree (anyone who has "WORKED" for a living!!! will testify with me). Someone that has mentored you when you were their student now moves you up in "rank" MEANS something (aka apprenticeship- you history buffs should know this) which is worth noting. For you to ask this man to take it down?...How dare you, if you did such a thing like this in person and I was present knowing the context...I would kick your ass until you understood! You have NO respect for accomplishments. I would take a HONORARY degree only recognized by my teacher (who has witnessed me earn it) over that of an institution's degree (a degree I paid for!!) In fact, it is as if you are asking him to remove his "gold/black stars". You are sad little people.

Scott Wolter keep giving the 110% effort that you have been doing. It is respected and applauded.
The G is for Geometry....

Jason Colavito link

3/19/2013 10:26:15 pm

Obviously you chose not to read anything I have ever written beyond this post, or even my other responses here. Nor do you appear to have read Wolter's response in which he admits that his honorary degree is not recognized by the university and does not exist.

One does not need a degree to explore history, for history belongs to everyone. The problem is that Scott Wolter lied about his credentials, and lying is a problem. It doens't affect the work he has done, which is wrong factually, but rather speaks to his credibility.

Cory

3/20/2013 09:17:46 pm

Jason-
No I have not read "all of your blogs"….why, because you are a simple man that thinks he knows everything and piss the ones off that know more!!! Did I read beyond? Yes, I did!!! I just entered in that location do to YOU, Jason and Tara; in hopes people that do not read all the way down would get a different point of view. (call it strategically placed...your idiocracy in this matter dose not surprise me)
Now, on the matter of "honorary degree"... I ask you to look it up! Yale has a well worded dictation of what it means, as well as the Cambridge dictionary before 1989 (I should not have to explain why before 89'to someone with your "paper backing")
Finally, you asked Scott Wolter to remove it from everything...did you NOT? (its in the text maybe you should re-read it) I called you out on that. Ask that of him!!! I dare you to ask for the stars black or gold to be taken down!!! He is proud of that...LET IT BE!!!
One more thing; as to address the "facts"...he has made a hypothesis and is working on proving it. Once he dose that, IT BECOMES FACT!!!!! Ask any architect worth his salt if he/she leaves a "calling card/significant shape" on any design he/she dose.

Jason Colavito link

3/20/2013 11:36:46 pm

I think you post is missing a few words, since I am unable to grasp what you mean about "remove it from everything." As Mr. Wolter wrote, it was not I who caused him to admit that the University did not recognize the honorary degree he claimed it had awarded but rather the Minnesota state agency that licenses geologists. If you have a problem with how the state of Minnesota evaluates Mr. Wolter's credentials, you may take it up with them.

Billy Randolph

3/28/2013 02:35:20 pm

It is for gnosis.

Ken

5/10/2013 06:27:28 pm

Hey Cory,

Thanks for your comments. I'm in total and complete agreement with it all. I enjoy "America Unearthed" allot. Thumbs up Scott! Keep up the good work. :) I understand your honorary degree and don't have a problem with it. Anybody that wants to, 'strip you of it', 'condemn you for it', or 'discredit you'; well..."F" 'em!

I felt like I should get it out before I fell asleep, from reading the entire line of well; "beatin' a dead horse". Talk about, "get a life". Damn!

I'm guessing the only way to end it, is to bow down to all those assailing Scott? Sing praises to their "money well spent"? Laud adoration on them, for being far superior to us and all the rest of the lowly masses?

Good job Bud!

Bimmerella

9/18/2013 03:35:16 am

Ten bucks says Cory is a fox news watcher. How else can you explain the low information threshold he has for determining facts, and then can only regurgitate the canned "skeptic" response when called. That comes from someone who has been programmed to lash out at people who dare to ask questions about things they accept as true. Jason has not lashed out here. He has asked questions, thoughtfully researched the topics, and pointed out inaccuracies and even dishonesty. Maybe you disagree, but at least HE has presented peer reviewed accepted knowledge to back his claims of inaccuracy. Wolter didn't do any such thing. If there was, we wouldnt be reading this right now.

Tara Jordan

1/1/2014 02:05:46 pm

My sarcasm is vindicated,Wolter is a crook,but his is a mastermind at taking advantage of intellectual simpletons like yourself.

"Please, with all of your wisdom; tell us what "you" think the purpose of the pyramids are?.."
3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine manufacturing facility.....

Christopher B

4/4/2013 04:49:03 pm

Tara, people who purport to academics, and look down upon the great unwashed masses as inferior, tend to be, in my experience, self loathing, insecure, close minded idividuals. You should remember that some of the greatest discoveries of our civilisation, often come by mistake, chance or being OPEN to possibilities, not just accepting the Status Quo. Waving your diploma in the faces of those who do not have one, is beneath the moral standards of good people. You really sound like a vengeful, mean spirited young lady.

Jim

1/23/2013 04:49:05 am

Tara,
Name calling and mud slinging debases the overall discussion and has no place in an argument regarding the validity of ideas and/or logic. Jason is always careful to limit his discussions to the shortcomings of an individual's assertions based on the facts they present and the logic behind their arguments. Attacks against the person instead of the idea they propose is a logical fallacy (argumentum ad hominem) and is not required when the data strongly supports your position. When the proponent of an alternative claim questions the the integrity and motivation of a skeptical reviewer like Jason, they are trying to move the argument from logic and facts to rhetoric, often, but not always, because they don't possess the facts to back their claim. Please note that Scott did not do this, but rather addresses the points Jason made in his blog directly.

While I may not agree with Scott's conclusions, I get the impression that he is at least sincere in his beliefs and undeserving of personal attacks. Even less deserving of personal attacks are his audience (many of whom are regular readers of this blog as well as its author).

I think perhaps your demeanor is better suited for politics rather than rational discourse.

Tara Jordan

1/23/2013 06:00:18 am

Of course,Tara, you mean little thing,engaging in "Name calling,mud slinging & ad hominem attacks". Because the other side,they`re all milk & honey.With all due respect Jim, you dont know what you are talking about. Ask Jason how many death threats,intimidations & the like, he has to deal on weekly base, just because he dares questioning the golden cows of the snake oil peddling industry.There are 1000`s of sites and blogs that fawn upon and promote this new age- Ancient Aliens, alternative history pseudo intellectual garbage, the debunkers are the minority among a minority. By the way I dont feel I have to justify myself for my behavior & my positions,but being critical is not only a right,a duty,it is a matter of public hygiene

Jim

1/23/2013 07:19:16 am

Tara,
I think you misunderstood me, or perhaps I simply did a poor job in communicating my idea. My point was simply that you weaken your position when you choose to use rhetoric and personal attacks over logic and scientifically sound data and ideas. Justifying their use by stating the 'other side' uses them does nothing to bolster your position and degrades the conversation into a finger pointing contest. As for not understanding death threats, well... I've had a few; some of which were made by angry coworkers or people I've cut off on the highway, and a couple made by men pointing loaded guns in my direction. I don't know how many threats Jason receives, or how seriously he takes them, but to the best of my knowledge nobody from Ancient Aliens or America Unearthed has made such direct threats or urged their viewers to do so. Holding them responsible for unstable people acting out is, in my opinion, about as valid and useful as blaming Marilyn Manson and video games for adolescent violence.

You are obviously a passionate individual, and I imagine you have many valuable things to contribute; furthermore, I am not the arbiter of this blog’s comment section and, as such, neither require your justification nor have any personal stake in the content of your comments. I was simply putting in my two cents, much like everybody else here, and I imagine you will regard my reply to you with about the same significance as I regard some random stranger’s critique of me.

Jason Colavito link

1/23/2013 12:45:43 pm

Actually, it's not that many death threats. They only come a few times a year, and so far there's only been one I had to take somewhat seriously. Mostly it's just angry people blowing off steam.

I do, however, get regular emails with vicious, vile invective that is unsuitable for sharing in a public forum.

Tara Jordan

1/23/2013 02:55:25 pm

Not at all Jim.I do appreciate the critic, especially when it comes from individuals with your intellect. I am blunt indeed but I have a really good education & I am quite capable of restraining myself. This is not my personal space & I would never behave in a way that could be detrimental to Jason. (I hope I am not?;) When Jason tells me to chill out, I do. I may have indeed valuable things to say but I am not a poseur & exposing my academic credentials & the depth of my intellectual bandwidth,is no part of my strategy. You have to take it into context, most of this Ancient Aliens,alternative history munbo jumbo has already been debunked by other scholars & experts,Jason is providing a final & personal touch to the polemic.Furthermore I am not a debunker & the burden of proof is on the individuals who are making extravagant claims. There is a huge amount of scholarly & academic literature that deals with these specific issues, I dont feel I am the one who has make the case,People need to do their basic home work.Thank you for your feedback

Dolores

3/30/2015 10:42:40 pm

Tara,

Nobody needs to go to college/university to be intelligent...one either is or isn't by biological makeup.

Nobody needs to go to college or university to be educated. Every town has a public library. Further, now we have the world of information at our fingertips; the internet.

Anybody who has been to college/university can tell you they did the reading (and whatever other assignments required). Professors guided us to find it ourselves unless the professor is a egotistical (anatomical part of a man) who likes to hear his/her own voice with a control freak attitude.

I have had the privilege of doing both a "training" program and an "education" program. Training programs are spoon fed and very strict because procedures cannot be deviated from and you don't need to learn anything past what is necessary to know exactly how to do some procedure.

To the contrary "educational" programs inspire one to dig in the information bottomless pit and apply it to real life situations; then dig some more. If you know where the information is you don't need a professor to tell you where to look but some people might need help to figure out how to apply it to life situations.

Wolter is LEADING an investigative TEAM. The team members have qualified (even in your book) credentials That is what the team leader does...get the best he can afford in the specific area he is researching and uncover whatever information (or the lack of it) to be had.

Spend a few years in "elitist" academia before you try to slam down someone who is providing us with inspiration by uncovering kicked to the back closet finds. The powers that be in academia don't want to share their glory thrones and they don't want you to mess up their last 6 books!

terry the censor

1/23/2013 07:16:07 pm

Scott Wolter wrote:

> they gave me an honorary degree with a whipped cream-topped coffee as my “certificate.”

Oh, the irony! Last year I made this comment on Jason's blog:

"Jason, you have to save these people from themselves. Instead of them taking on fake credentials or buying fake degrees, your blog should bestow upon the true unworthies an honourary degree in Fake Science [...] I suggest the degree itself be printed on a coffee mug."

It seems Mr. Wolter anticipated my fake coffee degree by 25 years!

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2012/09/upcoming-ancient-astronaut-symposium-reptilians-inflated-credentials-and-high-prices.html

The Searcher

3/16/2013 10:23:00 am

To the Degreed Professionals,

There are several points I would like to make in Scotts behalf.

1. College is supposed to infer that a person is a gentleman or a lady. I find that lacking in some comments.

2. A true scientist would know that your real education comes after you graduate. Your credentials are earned from what you accomplish or do for society, if this were not so Abraham Lincoln would have remained on the farm cutting logs.

3. Talk is cheap. The only thing that counts is substance. Over the years I have watched so called intellectuals consistently attack anyone that is willing to search for something that they have not been taught is true. The Bosnian Pyramids is a prime example. For years mainstream academia has gone out of their way to shame Dr. O. the discoverer of the monolith. Now that it has been scientifically been shown to be authentic scientists are climbing over each other to get a look at it. The city of Troy is another good example. A non-degreed individual did the research to locate the city and then a degreed scientist comes along and takes the credit.

4. In none of this rhetoric do I see the people that are making negative comment's offering any counter evidence, only lip service.

Wake up and get in the field before the "amatures" make all the finds.

Jason Colavito link

3/16/2013 10:40:22 am

You are welcome to find all of my counterarguments and evidence in my weekly reviews of the program. This post is not meant to be an exhaustive critique of the man's life and work.

The city of Troy is not a good example, as you can see by typing "Troy" into my search box and reading my post on the discovery of that city.

Michael J

11/25/2013 07:45:43 pm

You make many great points and I applaud you . Many of us also fail to look into who is funding a scientist or the dogma that is all too prevalent in science today.

Dolores

3/30/2015 10:52:30 pm

Dear Searcher,

1. Yes and that precludes calling each other "unschooled" poorly trained and even "moronic". Those words were thrown at some new to the field archaeologists by Oxford and Harvard et al doctoral graduates. I do need to name them...they know who they are...the put it in print!

2. Even when I graduated from nursing school I found that out with my first few patients...They didn't read the same books I did and therefore didn't know what symptoms to have in any given disease process.

3. I am writing a book to let them know their students are watching and listening to them. Academia needs ETHICS.

4, I am on it...now retired from nursing I just finished a Master's in Biblical Archaeology...I have always loved archaeology but in my youth it would have been almost impossible for me to become that. If you had a lot of money nobody cared about your gender. However if you were the average woman you would not be welcomed back in the 60's... Days gone by..I am as welcome on any dig as any man!

Hugh

1/24/2013 08:24:10 pm

I would like to make a comment....I appreciate this blog (found it while checking on Mr. Wolters credentials) and love the fact the Mr Wolters is responding. I have any issue which seeks to make claims that challenge held beliefs without more support than I see on America Unearthed. The first shows I have seen (coming into it late) the arguments seem sophmoric. I was not surprised to find he has only an undergraduate (layman), many of the arguments lack support and a thoroughness one would need to challenge long held belief. But I do agree with Mr Wolters that Academia (entrenched professors who's whole career may rest upon the dates he threatens) and his main suppositions need not be thrown out. Mr Wolters, I ask that you just tighten it up (If the History Channel time schedule will allow).

Jim

1/25/2013 04:29:21 am

"But I do agree with Mr Wolters that Academia (entrenched professors who's whole career may rest upon the dates he threatens) and his main suppositions need not be thrown out."

Why would we throw away a supposition based purely on its age? This should only be done if new evidence is brought to light that contradicts the established beliefs. This is the scientific method. Ideas don't have an expiration date!

Hugh

1/26/2013 01:43:14 pm

Agreed. But academia is not all about scientific method. Biases do prevail. Your only as good as your last publication and people guard there dissertations jeolously. It is not an even playing field. That is why some turn to trial by the public (TV)instead of going the academic route (getting the degree, getting book published and doing the lecture circiut)

Danna

1/30/2013 04:40:03 pm

I also discovered this site when looking for Mr. Wolter's credentials. What bothered me about the program I just saw was that Mr. Wolter's either didn't listen closely to or misinterpreted the responses of the 'experts' he visited for the program. I was also disappointed that geologic science was not included even though that is apparently Mr. Wolter's expertise. I suppose it was no accident that the program was followed by another History channel jewel, Ancient Aliens. I wonder if they shouldn't call it the Junk History channel.

Hugh

1/31/2013 04:09:33 pm

Amen! I hate shows that use questions to pass off as statments; "Could it be....blah blah blah?" It is because it "probably isnt". But having noticed the heading of this webpage, I fear I may insult our host whom I fear is calling the kettle black when he questions Mr Wolters expertise. It all about TV air time, baby. Over and out.

Jason Colavito link

1/31/2013 10:24:43 pm

I'm no expert, and I'm happy to say so. But I'm also not claiming to be one, or to claim to rewrite all of history with my "expertise."

do it

3/26/2013 12:21:55 am

i believe you have found your life partners and go suck each others dicks now

Bob

2/1/2013 03:18:40 pm

Great discussion! Informative. I found this site by looking for supportive "evidence" for claims made in the America Unearthed series. I am well into the third episode. I like speculation and the stringing of tantalizing clues. Naturally many questions cannot have nice neat questions. Perhaps archaeologists, cultural anthropologists and their ilk may further clarify the prehistory of the Americas. I expect and hope they do.

It is unfortunate that the hoi polloi have a difficulty separating a reality from pseudo reality. If you have a "mysterious artifact or site" Wolter wants to hear about it. The history we have been taught is all "WRONG." I think I want to see the evidence. Great claims need great proof! I can't wait to finish the 4th episode - America's Stonehenge! Ya Sure!! Ya Betcha!!

I have a BA in History, can I be a forensic historian? I have a MDiv - am I a forensic theologian? Perhaps as I try to discern what is and how it came to be I am exercising reason and science.

I hope those who watch the Unearthed series use critical thinking and evaluation. I was fascinated as a teen with the sort of speculation behind Von Däniken's "Chariots of the Gods." It's so great to have "special knowledge." [I better stop before I get going on early Christianities, including gnosticism.] .

Hugh

2/1/2013 06:39:21 pm

Are you sure you not gnostic (special knowledge and all)? just kidding....you would be considered heretic and burned at the stake. (I made excellent marks in systematic theology at Chandler, Emory University....not so good in Old Testament)

I find the subject matter on History Exposed to be great and some shows are better than others. But my favorite show on this subject was about the The Kensington Rune Stone called "The Holy Grail in America". If genuine, it gives evidence to the claim that Scandinavian explorers reached the middle of North America in the 14th century. Facinating.
But we have to get rid of this "Holy Grail" nonsense, it makes a great study into a farce.

Agape Bob

Daniel Mara link

8/22/2013 04:37:02 pm

@Agape Bob,

I could hardly agree more. I find the possibilities of "hidden" or unknown American civilizations intriguing and, truly, there is ample evidence such civilizations did indeed exist. However, Mr. Wolter's obsessive compulsion to connect non-existent (or wholly ambiguous, exaggerated) "dots" to come to his absurd, truly bizarre conclusions (regarding a Templar presence in pre-Columbian America; tied to the "grail" theory) is... well, pathetic.

One needn't possess an advanced degree to recognize this TV show has the scholarly credibility of other History Channel productions = none. It's meant to be entertainment. Unfortunately, such shows are also meant to dumb down Americans and (I'm sorry to say) intentionally destroy our Faith in God, too. I'm hardly one to champion or debate matters of Faith, myself, but I am honest enough to call it as I see it and HC's intentions in this regard are crystal clear. To deny it is to deny what's right before your eyes.

One look at American society and an honest observer can't help but conclude we need Faith - with a heavy dose of morals - in this country. You needn't an MBA to see that, either! What you do need is some sense - and a healthy respect & admiration for our Founder's genius and foresight and the wisdom to heed their warnings in respect to human failings & tyrannical tendencies, once granted positions of immense power and influence. We need faith in the human spirit, fostered and nourished by a healthy, positive environment and a non-oppressive, non-intrusive, grossly over-funded, nanny-state government with a (non) justice system of countless laws; meant to make criminals of us all!

Should we do that, (thereby restoring the Republic to its roots) peoples of the future will look at our civilization with awe and appreciation for what we've left them. And no one will need to lie/deceive anyone in telling our magnificent story of triumph over unfathomable adversity.

Thank you!

Iain Mackenzie

2/5/2013 12:32:27 pm

I too found this site while searching for Scott Wolter. I saw the America Unearthed advert and was intrigued by the subject matter. About half way through the ”America’s Stonehenge” episode I thought I was watching a satire on Archeology shows, but by the end of it I realized that Mr. Wolter seemed to be sincere. I am not a geologist or archeo-anything but was stunned by the leaps of logic that became facts at the speed of light.
Americas Stonehenge ”pointing” to the real Stonehenge was somewhat interesting (never mind exactly what was lined up with what to get accuracy of a few feet over a distance of a few thousand miles) but the extrapolation of the line in space and time to the ancient Phoenicians – really? Where did that come from?
I watched part of Mystery of Roanoke just in case the first episode I watched was an aberration, but after 20 minutes or so, a pounding migraine induced by my fairly average intelligence being insulted and assaulted into submission initiated a channel switch to “The Price is Right” - for sanity’s sake.

Jason Colavito link

2/5/2013 12:40:57 pm

Welcome to the site! I've posted reviews of each episode of "America Unearthed," so you can read up on everything you missed, and just how stupid it is. In my review of the "Stonehenge in America" episode I do my best to try to explain where the line to Phoenicia came from. It's really stupid.

"The Price Is Right" is easily the better show, faster-paced and more fun. Plus, it genuinely improves the lives of the people who appear on it by giving them money and prizes. That will be the day that "America Unearthed" can match that.

Iain Mackenzie

2/10/2013 05:22:45 am

Thanks for the reply. I checked out your review. Spot on in my opinion, and saved me a lot of work figuring out Google earth.

(I did happen to notice that Albany, NY is directly aligned with Edinburgh, my place of birth. Edinburgh has been called the Athens of the North. Albany is named after the Duke of Albany an alleged Freemason, the future James VII of Scotland – the home of the Picts. Could it be that me landing on this site was pre-destined due to this Greco/Picto/North America connection?)

Seriously - what is really sad to me is that I had assumed the History Channel had some integrity – how wrong could I be?

Iain Mackenzie

2/10/2013 05:23:03 am

Colleen Niemi

4/17/2013 05:09:37 pm

I love this site! Just stumbled across it while looking for Scott's credentials since I, like many others, recognized he couldn't be from an academic background. I happened across the show and honestly thought at first that it was a new Christopher Guest movie. There's a difference between hypothesis and agenda, scientific inquiry and show-biz, truth and romance. Not that they can't overlap but it behooves us all to keep our desire for a really great story separate from a rigid skepticism. What I found really interesting about the Runestone episode was how excited the archaeologist doing the dig was about the Native American artifacts he was finding and how completely disinterested the farmer was in all the actual treasures that were being discovered all around him. Native Shmative, I want a Viking just like the Viking that married dear old Mom.

Rob

1/19/2014 12:44:25 pm

I liked the way the drew the line from the American Stonehenge to England and then the Lebanon. Is it just me, but I looked at a map and I don't see it possible to draw a straight line???

Jason Colavito link

1/19/2014 12:48:34 pm

You can't. The line is called the "Great Circle," and you can read about how it works in my review of the episode by clicking the "America Unearthed Reviews" link above.

Jeffery Pitts

2/13/2013 04:52:05 pm

I just watched America Unearthed and was completely appalled at the episode about the carved bull found on a stone in the Arkansas River near Tulsa, Oklahoma. Mr. Wolters saw vertical scratches laid out on a horizontal plane along a cliff face near the area where the bull carving was found. He proclaimed it was possibly Irish Ogham script and flew to Ireland to "check it out". A professor there showed Mr. Wolters an actual Ogham inscription (horizontal lines laid out in verticle planes) and looked at the pictures Mr. Wolters brought from Oklahoma. The professor flatly told him it wasn't ogham. However, later, Mr. Wolters went to western Oklahoma and saw more verticle scratches on a horizontal plane and agreed it was ogham, although it looked nothing like real ogham script. The show went on to claim that ancient celts who worshiped Mithras (You gotta be kidding me!) came to Oklahoma and carved Ogham, Mithras, the Mithras bull, and Anubis in a cliff shelter. They then claimed Anubis was tied to Mithras and that Irish celts worshiped them. It made me sick to my stomach to see this junk on the History Channel, and people like Scott Wolters should hope to God there is no hell because in my opinion liars and frauds should be condemned to the worst, lowest levels. Anyone who knows anything about Mithras knows it was an eastern religion from the area of Persia carried through Western Europe by the members of the Roman Army. Why would anybody claim it was ever celtic? He had some "expert" on Mithras who backed him up on that and tied Anubis to the Mithras cult as well. Complete hogwash! America Unearthed made me so sick and angry I just had to find as many places online as possible to try to discredit this junk history, quackery, tv show. Scott Wolters, if you read this, shame on you! You are actually making people stupid and getting paid to do it. Jason Colavito, you sir are a scholar and a gentleman. Keep up the good work!

Alan Watts

11/25/2013 09:34:44 pm

Joseph Campbell was a scholar and a gentleman .

TheTruthRevealed link

2/15/2013 08:22:42 am

It appears Jason takes some liberties with his own resume. He claims to be a "best selling" author. This claim comes with an asterisk and if one bothers to read the asterisk it notes, "* Amazon.com ranking of top 10 best-selling archaeology new releases, December 2012."

But the reality is Amazon ranking and what one would consider "best seller" status are two completely different things. If your book sold 10 copies on Amazon in the archaeology category and the next highest seller in this category only sold 8 copies Amazon would call you a "best seller" in the archaeology category. But any normal person seeing the terms "best seller" assumes hundreds of thousands if not millions of copies have beens sold. They wouldn't consider a book that only sold 10 copies to be a "best seller." So Jason, why don't you tell us all how many copies your book have sold so we can determine for ourselves whether your claim to be a "best selling" author is legitimate or nothing more than the same type of overstatement you've accused Mr. Wolter of. And please, post screen shots of your Amazon Author Central BookScan sales data for your "best seller" book so we can verify your claims.

Jason Colavito link

2/15/2013 08:37:03 am

What exactly do you think I'm hiding? If you check my blog archive, you'll see I've always been very clear about my book sales and the fact that my blog readership outdraws my booksales many times over. You're right that I am not a NYT Bestselling author (which is also based on relative sales, not absolute sales), but a little marketing puffery isn't the same as faking credentials.

I'll save you some other trouble: There is no such field as skeptical xenoarchaeology either.

It's marketing puffery, as I've said many times. I don't hide it.

TheTruthRevealed

2/15/2013 09:39:47 am

Jason states: "If you check my blog archive, you'll see I've always been very clear about my book sales "

Yes, I'm sure when people reach your home page and see your claim of being a best selling author they immediately go through your archive to verify your claim. Of course not. Anyone with two braincells knows why you make this claim on your home page: to establish credibility. In other words, it's a credential in which you establish your credibility to someone who first reaches your website. So yes, it's EXACTLY the same as faking credentials.

So why not just post your actual book sales? Are you afraid it would undermine your credibility? In fact, why not link the words "bestselling author" on your homepage to a screen grab of your BookScan sales for the past 52 weeks? If you're so proud of being a best selling author that you put it on your homepage, I'd think you'd want everyone to know exactly how many people are buying your books?

So you can say it's all "marketing puffery" and you "don't hide it" but the fact is you do hide it. Otherwise you'd link to the info on your home page and not expect new visitors to read through all your posts to find out that, "oh, he's not REALLY a best selling author...that's just marketing puffery."

So just post the numbers. A simple screen shot of your BookScan sales for the past 52 weeks would help us all determine the credibility of the person who's decided to make it his job to attack other's credibility. Scott Wolter owned up that his "degree" was really a creamy beverage. So why don't you come clean and show us your sales data for your "best selling author" status.

Shane Taylor

5/12/2013 12:18:24 am

Look Jason. You have got to come clean. You asked Scott to tell the truth and verify his credentials....now it's your turn.....hand over the statistics as asked. How many copies of your books are being sold?

josephs

1/6/2014 12:02:18 pm

It is one thing to say you have sold a lot of books one amazon, which Jason probably has, and quite another to claim academic credentials, especially when you are using those credentials to give your vague theories about knights templar, freemasons, etc some credence. Now, would you propose that anything Jason has said in the body of his article above or in any of the reviews about AU are factually incorrect? (Obviously that would require you reading them which you probably cannot be bothered to do)

William

2/15/2013 07:44:36 pm

What Tara considers 'debunked' is someone who scrounged together a Youtube documentary and attaches the title 'debunked' at the end. That's not the problem...it's purely guilt by association, and automatic feeding of the old superiority-complex every time that word is uttered in the name of the doctrine.

You're simply applying guilt-by-association logic here.
Why not name drop some of those scholars and round out your argument while you're at it? That's far more valuable than seeing how many times you can pat yourself on the back for throwing 'pseudo' in a sentence. Oh wait, you're right; This isn't a actually a Von-Giorgio sounding board.

Just some girl

2/15/2013 08:10:18 pm

I have nothing more than an associates degree in marketing and sales so I will not be trying to boast of any high intellect. My interest in history, archaeology and geology has been with me since, as a child, I first started digging in the dirt of my front lawn hoping to find a Native American artifact. What I have taken away from watching America Unearthed is a renewed "spark" in those interests. I would hope that creating an interest in these subjects is the true intent of the producers and Mr. Wolter. If people are taking all that is said on this television show as absolute truth, it is unfortunate. With the ability to do vast research from the luxury of their own home, I believe they are only doing themselves a disservice. Anyone who understands how to use a computer and knows that making an informed decision involves obtaining much more than a few statements one person made will do that research before forming a solid view on the matter.
I have been trying to teach my young daughter about decision making and have referenced America Unearthed as a program to watch in hopes that she will become interested in history. I have also warned her to never simply trust what someone else says is true. She needs to think for herself.
I completely understand where Jason is coming from when bringing up discrepancies with credentials and faults with arguments. It is too bad that not everyone feels the need to question those who claim authority. While the proverb states "curiosity killed the cat", I believe that having curiosity is extremely important and beneficial in understanding the world around us.
If it takes watching a television show to get people wondering whether or not the history lessons taught in grade school were correct, then please- let there be more shows like America Unearthed and, dare I say, Ancient Aliens. Like a woman said in an early post, a growing number of people cannot find Egypt on a map. If throwing around wild ideas about the mysteries surrounding ancient sites on a television show is the only way to entertain a large amount of people, but at the same time inform them of the site existing then I don't see much harm in it.
Thank you to Scott Wolter and the History channel for putting on something other than the typical reality shows that plague the airwaves. I am so sick of seeing the likes of Real Housewives and Storage Wars. Also, thank you to Jason for providing further information on the subjects and people covered on the History channel. We desperately need more people like you.

Rob

4/25/2013 06:59:32 pm

You mean your just some slut

Jeremy

6/7/2013 12:54:37 pm

Wow, Rob must really have a high IQ for his reply.. That takes some high intelligence to come up with a remark like that... Oh wait, I remember in highschool that jocks and bullies (whose IQ's were south of 100) made similar comments... I agree with Just some girl and her post. I think we do need to think for ourselves a bit and challenge the Status Quo... This show does that.

Sukhavati

11/26/2013 09:15:35 pm

I think you are " Just some very nice girl ".

Dolores

3/30/2015 11:01:49 pm

Just Some Girl,

I am a great granny (and an educator). I want you to know intellect and knowledge gained are too very different things. Intellect is rather a measure of what a person might be capable of achieving. On the other hand knowledge is attained (for most of us with a lot of sweat and pain) by learning; trials and reading others work before us.

You have a sharp intellect as anyone can tell from your post! Don't let anyone tell you differently!

William

2/16/2013 11:37:15 am

Re:Discussion

Speaking of debunking and science, which still can't even agree on what we should be eating every day, much less taking seriously the impact that actually has and doesn't have on medical situations.

Where are all the articles and blogs challenging the fact that it's still scientifically sound to do the following:

- Destroy cancer in humans with radiation, despite the scientifically consistent outcome
- Prescribe powerful antibiotics every time a head or chest infection doesn't go away after "7 days"
- Recommend eating grain/corn, artificial sweeteners, finding no problem with MSG, etc
- Back up destructive from the Ambiens to "Yaz"

Oh, right. Those doctors turned rogue and silly nutritionists are also written off for finding fault with any of this, and promoting solutions that otherwise up-the-creek patients recovered thanks to, no thanks to their teams of doctors over the course of years. Yet these rogues catch the same kind of pseudo-flak as any other field, just in a different package.

Tell me the analogy's not apt. Same bullshit story. Reality and bureaucracy aren't compatible, but no one's going to question what got them through academia and unlocked all those wonderful doors for them. It's a golden ticket to always be right, regardless of reality.

I'm all for disproving things. The problem is, this more often than not, doesn't happen, without question. They instead just cite a known crackpot, and it's guilt by association.

That would like me trying to discredit a surgeon by talking about a fraudster in South America pulling animal meat from a man's belly, claiming he removed the cancer. If you want to debunk something, put in the work. Whatever outcome (if any), now that's something I'd be thoroughly interest in reading about or conceding. Whether the structures in Georgia related to the Creeks were Mayan related or not, THAT would be interesting to know. Tell us why it's not similar at all to even consider. If it was completely isolated to Georgia, great! Show me! I'd still eat it up. The Creeks really didn't speak a little Mayan as claimed? Show me. Right now, all I know is that the man in question was forbidden to go look at the site, without explanation. That would go for us too, if we were simply trying to study the Creek culture. No one is shouting conspiracy, they are just asking why? It's still a highly interesting structure, and it pisses me off that I know I'll never be able to see it.

Jason Colavito link

2/16/2013 11:55:21 am

Perhaps you have misunderstood the purpose of this blog post. My review of America Unearthed S01E01 was posted separately, where I deal with the material in question. Wolter was denied access because his team hadn't filed the proper paperwork to film and conduct intrusive tests at the site. It is otherwise open to the public and can be visited by following the map and directions the Forest Service helpfully provides on the site's website.

William

2/16/2013 12:09:52 pm

Awesome, then I can go. Two weeks ago, I had never heard of the site, so I hadn't looked into it yet.

The rest was aimed @ the ongoing comments, which are touching upon everything from Ancient Aliens to various Unearthed episodes. Thanks for the info

Katherine

2/18/2013 03:14:55 pm

I'm jumping into the "debate" a little late, but I just caught "America Unearthed" for the first time, and since the whole thing just reeked of the same pseudo-science used in "Ancient Aliens", I thought I'd check into the credentials of Mr.Wolter. Apparently, he has none. (and yes..I think credentials are important. In my opinion, "self-taught" usually means educated by fools) It will be the last time I watch the show, and I'll be sure to pass this information along to friends, and acquaintances. At this point "The History Channel" should be forced to change it's name to "The let's give anyone with a half-baked notion a show" channel.

Edda Beiver

11/25/2013 10:01:46 pm

Maybe Obozo will pass a law and force H2 to change its name to your request .

Kathryn Zambito

1/21/2015 10:23:35 am

Katherine, So you would call natural geniuses like Ben Franklin and Thomas Edison fools? Ha!

A Teacher

2/22/2013 03:10:30 pm

I watch the show and I can certainly buy into the notion that there are things which happened in North America that preceded Columbus. My concern, however, is how often and how easily Mr. Wolter is convinced by evidence that is so questionable. The dating of many of the sites in the Americas he has visited are highly speculative and not based on the standard measures of age as determined by absolute or relative dating procedures. Due to the nature of the New England climate, Mr. Wolter must know that even rocks as hard as granite can weather relatively quickly. In the Pennsylvania mountains he was convinced of a European connection based in part on what he perceived to be a ceremonial basin. Is he not aware that many Amish people have spring fed basins just like that in their cellars which are used to keep items such as milk cool? Cool spring water was the simple man's refrigerator. As for the Mandan Welsh connection, a whole host of scholars and learned people from Mandan and Welsh backgrounds have thoroughly debunked the notion of a Mandan-Welsh connection. The entire premise was based on The Corps of Discovery comments that the Mandan looked "European." Anyone who studies genetics understands that certain physical traits can become isolated in one particular group of people. Some indigenous North Americans had beards while others were incapable of growing facial hair. Because of Hollywood, we have been conditioned to think of indigenous North Americans as looking a certain way. Surely the same genetic variations occured in the millions of individuals scattered across a massive land mass. Enthusiasm, curiosity, Mr. Wolter, are fabulous things. They have led to some of the greatest innovations in the history of our species. But enthusiasm and a desire to be right should not have the effect of clouding one's judgment. I, for one, very much WANT you to be correct in many of your beliefs. As a secondary level teacher of social studies and science I am certainly aware of how history has been manipulated, misrepresented, even invented. I am also well aware of how certain data and information can be manipulated in a way to say what the experimentor wants it to say. I am sad to say that I have an inherent lack of trust in most of what I read at first glance, and I try to make an effort to sort thrrough the differing points of view to find something I can accept. It is obvious that the show itself is "scripted" to a great degree, perhaps necessarily, but for people with a bit more background in science and history "scriptedness" implies to us that the authenticity of the claims are weak. Scientists and historians can be incredibly enthusiastic about their beliefs, but the best ones in my opinion avoid sensationalizing anything. Quite the contrary, the best scientists and historians are ones who test themselves and their beliefs by requiring a considerable preponderance of evidence until they are satisfied they have adequately explained away alternatives to their beliefs. Mr. Wolter is no more or less biased than many scientists and historians today. Many of them want to make a name for themselves. There isn't a lot of money available for research and they want to stand out. They also want recognition for their universities, even their countries. The whole field of science, unfortunately, is subject to intense manipulation. I think Mr. Wolter's show is entertaining and I do learn from it. I would not, however, go so far as to say I consider him a credible historian or, for that matter, a credible "forensic geologist." He is far too easily convinced by evidence that has not met a sufficient burden of proof.

Mike Courage

2/22/2013 08:55:44 pm

I've watched America Unearthed three times and asked myself "Am I just stupid or is this a bunch of crap? It's good to know that I'm not stupid. That program is an embarrassment to geologists everywhere.

Hovnohead

5/18/2013 03:40:31 am

Mike: even if this show is a bunch of crap, that does not necessarily mean that you aren't stupid--'leap of logic' examples abound, on all sides of this blog...

Alan Watts

12/10/2013 09:44:17 am

Get some courage Mike and change the channel .

Bella Jade

3/25/2014 09:55:45 am

The answer is simple, turn the tv off or change the channel. If you do not like Scott, or his show, then do NOT watch it. Very simple solution. He never says anything is fact...he leaves things open for others to decide for themselves.

Judd55

4/29/2014 04:30:20 pm

Well the point of the program is entertainment for everyone. There is a factual premise in each instalment. It's not worth wasting too many words on scientific merit, even if there is some from time to time. It's good to challenge things: even science is always doing that....why is medicine "practiced"? Please note that your cell phone works based on science, your beer and flat screen TV are all products of science.

Keep learning , keep challenging the 'Man'. We are supposed to be free here...let's enjoy it. Doesn't mean everyone has to be always right, all the time. Remember when Saturn had 7 moons? What do we know now? It changed, didn't it.

Mr Wolter is harmless...don't take it too seriously. It's entertainment.

Jay Davis

2/23/2013 06:30:36 pm

Scott, I have been watching the Show and I find it Fascinating. I have told Friends about it and they enjoy it too. Keep up the good work. Your on a Mission. and when you don't know about something you go to the Experts. Nothing wrong with that. Looking forward to more Seasons. Great Entertainment.

AnnaB

8/31/2014 04:22:59 am

Except that the experts refute his ideas at every turn, so he works it into the script that it must be a conspiracy and is even more sure now that his crazy assumptions must be correct. This is generally done in a huffy fake phone call to friends or family.

The show would be entertainment if there was a disclaimer in every episode that said the whole show was based on pseudo-science and assumptions. Instead, everything he comes up with is treated as fact, and a lot of people are gullible enough to believe what he says because, hey, it's on a channel that certainly seems legit at first glance.

It's not entertainment if you're convincing people that the facts they've learned are not facts after all--even though the only reason you're being told that is to keep the ratings of a show high enough that Wolter can pull in another paycheck.

John E

3/1/2013 05:10:22 pm

The show is entertaining, but like so many shows on the 'History' Channel, it freely sacrifices the basic rules of evidence in favor of sensationalistic conspiracy theory. I do wonder to what extent Mr. Wolter has been influenced by the late Harvard zoologist Barry Fell. While Fell was a far more careful researcher than Wolter is, I can't help but be reminded of his book, _America BC_ while watching Wolter's show. Too bad "America Unearthed" isn't nearly as reflective of careful research as _America BC_ was. It is quite a bit better than "Finding Bigfoot" however. What is so annoying about these shows is how much even those of us who truly WANT these tales to be true are simply left with nothing but sensationalistic hunches and maybes when all is said and done.

Jeremy

3/7/2013 09:13:51 am

It's a TV show and it seems that fact gets lost with most people.

Wolter is likely not seeing these sites or artifacts for the first time, and has probably spent hundreds of hours studying them. But him reading books or examining rocks for hours makes for boring TV. H2 is ultimately trying to make money and attract the largest audience.

While educating the viewers is an important aspect of some shows, its ultimately about money and ratings.

I have pretty much given up the idea of being educated from a TV show or "news" article. They are created to make money.

In America Unearthed Wolter seems to jump to conclusions and uses faulty logic. However he visits sites I've never studied before and offers a new perspective to others that I have studied. I am sure it's the same situation with most of you here. I found this site because I wanted to see Wolter's credentials and negative opinions of his show.

I am glad to see so many others who think similar to me, and I think the best part is we all question the "official" stories and ultimately just want to seek truth (or as close to it as we can).

Wolter is doing some great work, and while he may be wrong about everything, at least he is trying uncover new evidence about human history.

It's better than most the crap on TV.

Jason Colavito link

3/7/2013 09:33:00 am

I think that's a rather low standard to hold TV to. Look back at "In Search of..." from 30 years ago; it covered the same material and came to many of the same conclusions, but it did so in a way that was comparatively more open-minded, fair, and entertaining. But we don't have to have false ideas to be entertaining: Have you ever watched historical documentaries from the BBC, Germany's ZDF, and other international broadcasters? They cover fascinating bits of human history in an entertaining way. I remember seeing a documentary about the Nebra Sky Disk on DWTV (Germany), and it was engaging, entertaining, and based in actual fact.

It can be done, and viewers ought to expect TV professionals to be able to craft entertaining narratives from truth. If they can't, then they suck at TV and are leaning on crutches that betray their professional weakness.

Thomas O

9/10/2013 02:18:53 am

I have just recently come across "America Unearthed", now, while I am not overly concerned regarding the quality of Mr Wooten's credentials the most fundamental thing for me is the entertainment value of the subject matter.

I say this because it is one of the, dare I say, better programs on cable that I have watched which covers what is quite interesting subject matter when compared to say ... er, "Ice road truckers" ?!. I have never understood why programs such as that is on a "History" channel, totally bizarre. Being a Brit it is such a relief to watch a BBC documentary when you know your in for something of better quality and more educational compared to the flippant sensationalism of the American shows I am sorry to say.

However, I would dearly like to be convinced regarding alternative views of history that is after all still being refined, when i was at school the pyramids were two thousand years old and it was no problem at all for dad to smoke in the car with the windows up and we sat in the front seat without a seat belt. It is great to challenge the norm and stir up the emotions of the populous who have lets face it a diminishing understanding and interest of how we have evolved, but let's face it the thing we can definitely state as fact is that we we still don't know.

Michelle D

3/9/2013 06:09:40 am

I too was wondering about the credentials as the show continues somethings just do not add up. First as a geo "experienced" he still refers to the Americas as the "New World." Unless the clouds parted the day Columbus landed and poof the Americas were born (Which I kind of doubt) the Americas have a long and diverse history beyond just the Euro humans landing.

Second, as a geo he proclaims theories as fact when most researchers present the facts and let the scholars determine the outcome.

Third, as a historian pathfinder it is not proclaimed that most of the planet's history is under water and unreachable. So most history is speculation and wishful thinking. But it is fun for debates!!!

There are many wonders in the world unexplained and the intentions of past humanity is unwritten, and therefore; how can one determine the thought process of a mind long ago (I know I did not live 1000s of years ago?

All I am saying is do not proclaim to know ancient humanity unless you lived during their time and know for a fact the intentions of those that have or may have past through the dirt and rocks of America.

For example; I roll my eyes when people state humans began in Africa, we as modern mankind do not know that for a fact despite our grand egos. We can only speculate until all the waters evaporate and expose the complete planet history and we have the money to dig it all up.

Please for the young minds that watch the history channel be respectful how those young minds are being shaped by speculation rather than fact. Shaping minds with speculation only limits the mind's ability to think beyond wishful truths.

Thank you.

Brenda Worrall

3/11/2013 06:00:26 am

Wow ... who is this Tara Jordan person anyway ?? She says "
Wolter has the profile of the average pseudo intellectual hooligan. Fake academic credential,ominous ego-centrism, over-inflated sense of self-esteem,relevance,omnipotence & accomplishment."

Seems to me she is DESCRIBING HERSELF."

Obviously we don't know her credentials, but then we don't want to know. She gets by with her rudeness, a lot of people do nowadays. They are bullies and have to force their point of view on the world.

AU is a show, likewise Nova and all History and NatGeo programs - TV shows. They are informational and of great interest to a lot, they stimulates history buffs and hopefully, educates those who do not know where Eqypt is located!!! Most people out there have never heard of the Knights Templar ...

At least programs such as AU and Nova, don't have swearing, fake attorneys, fake detectives, and the content of prime time TV. These programs stimulate the brain and get us asking questions, they are great.

Tara go back to your books at the back of the library.

Bill

8/19/2013 11:09:52 am

I guess pointing out that you can find the papers Tara Jordan has authored with about 30 seconds of research on the internet would be lost on you. Unlike Wolter she is willing to put her work into the academic arena and deal with all the abuse that entails

Tara Jordan link

1/4/2014 02:31:25 pm

I was expecting nothing less from someone like yourself.The Scott Wolter aficionado is probably the lowest form of organic life in our solar system.

pat

3/12/2013 06:57:46 am

I have no degree. I spent 20 years in the us military, 5 as a mil contractor. i have read history since age5. started with an old high school history book. Have read a dozen book since childhood on roanoke. I read all sorts of history still. I know many things written in history are wrong. Many other things are unknown. I like scott. I dont think he is a master scientist. I dont think many scientist today are. I think politics has harmed higher education. people who call people names when they dont have to answer for it are bullies. Attack the message, not the messenger. I know at age 14, in n.c., i was with my adult brother when we found a small stone tablet, engraved with tiny pictograms of characters that resembled some sort of writng. 8 lines. 40 odd characters. we searched at the county library for a match. none. The librarian called a state archeology office man who came to my brothers home. He claimed it looked like nothing he had seen, but was probably "some old hoax".He then asked for it. when my brother refused, he threatened state code that made artifacts state property. my brother refused. we "lost" it. My brother is an ahole, but we were digging out a site for a pump house, and he could never have made such a thing, or want to. There was an old spring 50 yds away that had been a stopping site on an old wagon road, and probably an important site for centuries.I had gathered arrowheads and stone tools in the area for years. NOTHING looked as smooth and well made as this. It was not regular native american material. I believe some traveler left it here god knows when. Just a side note, my dad at 16, in the cc corp in 1937 worked to build roads in fish lake national forest utah. in a cave there he found 4 coins which he kept. I id"d them as roman from a book when i was 17. My dad had a 6th grade education, was no liar, and thought they were old mexican coins. My point being there is a weatlth of history we dont know. it is cut and dried. man was a wanderer and has done what is often never known. For the record, i am convinced the colonists at roanoke fought to survive and were scattered among indian tribes, many seperate untold tales of survival. i dont know if any of the dare stones are real, but the tale they tell is not outrageous. Lets show humility and respect each other, even if we think someone is wrong. Being wrong doesnt make someone evil. Scott shows his sincerity by addressing his critics. we should all show the decent tone he answers others with.
pat

Tony Newcomb

3/13/2013 10:14:25 pm

I'm honored to see such debate over the history of our nations lands. I am a direct grandson to William Brewster of the Pilgrims. And my ancestor grandfather Capt. Andrew Newcomb came here to Boston in 1630-1640. I know they had a big part in forming this nation. I know they had connection to the Knights Templar and later Freemasons. I can't understand the thought that open minds can't be used in the possibility that history books written by fallible men and women could be wrong or "Partially" right as mentioned here. Evidence and searching for the truth does not require a degree. I hold various mechanical and Carpentry/Masonry certifications. That does not mean I can't run a tractor on my grandpa's farm or care for sick farm animals if needed. We each hold diverse skills we don't go on record mentioning but they are there none the less as we speak of things. The old saying comes to mind. "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear to be smart. Than to open it and remove all the doubt. Scott Wolter May not have a degree per-say. But he seems to have a grasp on the smarts to handle America Unearthed. Maybe he could team up with a counter part who could be a degree holding bias view to offer a second point of view??

CFC

3/14/2013 12:02:31 pm

No one is saying that you must have a degree to be intelligent or that to seek evidence or speak the truth you need an advanced degree. What I read here is that it is wrong and unethical for Mr. Wolter to mislead people that he has an “honorary master’s degree” from an institution of higher education that DOES NOT EXIST. This kind of dishonesty is unacceptable to me. If he can't be honest about his education creditials, doesn't that raise doubt about his honesty as a professional and as a so-called researcher?

uytrewq

11/25/2013 10:19:30 pm

We should all be honest like the tyrannical leaders our great country has.

Paul Elshoff

3/15/2013 07:54:57 am

Was just watching a series of these shows today. Scott Wolter sort of had me with him until he crossed the line from being geologist to now being a homicide investigator taking DNA samples from Meriwether Lewis' Freemason apron; culminating in "his" conclusion that Lewis was murdered. Being a former law enforcement officer and investigator with real diplomas/certificates in the criminology field, I would offer that Mr. Wolter should stick with geology. (Nice blog, Jason.)

Billy Bob

3/15/2013 02:02:24 pm

There is a rock in Arizona that suggests that it was Jesus who actually discovered America 1500 years before Columbus.

Kate

3/15/2013 02:23:27 pm

Hey everybody, this is America. We can choose to watch certain tv shows or not. I like Scott Wolter because he has the guts to put together an entertaining tv show. Do I believe what he is selling? No, most of the time, I do not. But it is fun to watch and I am a reasoning person and I can decide what to believe.
Scott Wolter is making a living from the sheer force of his abrasive yet likable personality and his oftentimes "out there" ideas. If he's full of it, at least he's doing what he believes in. And I respect anybody who has the courage to get on national television and carve a niche for themselves like Scott has.
Nobody forces me to watch the show. I walk over to the remote, I click it "on". I turn it to H2 and watch Ancient Aliens and America Unearthed every Friday. I watch these shows because they are fun. F-U-N. Got that? It's fun. Sheesh, some of you people get so rude and mean. Lighten up...it's a TV show.
And while I am speaking my piece, the remark about Scott being 3 degrees from retarded was over the line. Seriously, grow up, why don't you?
Thanks for reading. Now 'scuse me...America Unearthed is on. :-)

Aaron

5/20/2013 03:54:20 am

Hey Kate, this is America. We can choose to criticize the claims of those who purport to be experts or scientists. I'm glad you're able to differentiate between fantasy and reality when it comes to the content of the show, but unfortunately most cannot it would seem. No one is criticizing Scott's ability as a showman or his ability to sell himself. Good for him. And if people were... Hey, this is America, right?

Jim Jones Punch

11/25/2013 11:02:13 pm

Well it used to be America until about 1913 , now it is Amerika .

Jon

3/15/2013 02:43:20 pm

Correction, Billy Bob, it was actually Jesus and his son who discovered the America's. Both of whom were members of the Knights Templar. Scott Wolters just put on a laser show in an ancient Rhode Island rock structure that basically proved this.

Charles Austin Miller

3/15/2013 02:43:27 pm

I fail to see why Wolter's 82 bachelor's degree in geology qualifies him to investigate and remark upon archaeology, anthropology, architecture, engineering, or Knights Templar conspiracy theory. Wolter consistently makes an ass of himself, as far as I can see.

Sukhavati

11/26/2013 09:23:44 pm

You stated that you fail to see which is correct .

Ray

12/1/2013 07:38:34 pm

Then please tell us how a BS in geology does in fact qualify Wolter for work in archaeology, anthropology, architecture, engineering, or Knights Templar conspiracy theories.

Or are you just a troll who actually has nothing to add to the conversation?

Ray

12/1/2013 07:38:40 pm

Ray

12/1/2013 07:38:48 pm

Charles Austin Miller

3/15/2013 02:52:34 pm

I mean, for a half-baked "geologist" to shine a leveling laser on a stone structure and declare "ONLY the Knights Templar would stack stones like this" is like Giorgio Tsoukalos declaring "This can mean NOTHING ELSE but extraterrestrial technology!" This is straight-up misinformation and disinformation. Thanks, H2...

Stafford

3/15/2013 05:35:21 pm

Scott Wolter is a charlatan and now is parroting Dan Brown's conspiratorial nonsense to try and discredit the Catholic Church. He is obsessed with Freemasonary and is neither an intellectual or particularly entertaining. He is one step above the Finding Bigfoot stooges.

gabe

6/30/2013 04:25:43 pm

The Catholic Church needs help to be discredited ??!!
They seem to be doing a great job all by themselves.

Ann Adam

12/3/2013 05:10:07 am

LOL! But Stafford, now we know at least one bigfoot in the Yeti catagory is a cross of Polar bear and early Grizzly bear. Now, on to Sasquatch! This is good for local economies. Northern Calif. needs SOMETHING other than marijuana.

Eliza

3/15/2013 07:20:24 pm

I was actually excited to see the shows when I caught some of the previews online and on the History channel. Something different and informative? After the 2nd show though, I found myself cringing every time he had a new lead or mentioned 'Templar' and 'exact match'. It's agonizing to watch someone crawl from the depths and not succeed.

It's also a miracle how everything has an exact match and a definitive answer according to Scott.

So, my opinion of the show can be summed up on one of those old Bud Light Real Men of Genius commercials -

Mr. Furniture Assembly Manual Writer

Today, we salute you, Mr. Furniture Assembly Manual Writer
(Mr. Furniture Assembly Manual Writer)
Thanks to you, people everywhere can simply purchase furniture,
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Knowing we can't read Chineese, Dutch, or German,
you thoughtfully include pictures.
Pictures that look nothing like the item purchased.
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(Oh no!)
So, crack open an ice cold budlight oh maestro of the manual,
You make it so simple, a monkey could do it.
A rocket scientist monkey.
(That's one smart monkey)

Jason Colavito link

3/15/2013 11:34:28 pm

I have deleted a post with abusive language. This is a warning that any more abusive language from anyone, and the post will be deleted.

Bill Donnelly link

3/16/2013 01:03:50 am

Oh, you're no fun. ;o)

Apologies (sincerely) for the splatter.

Bill Donnelly link

3/16/2013 01:04:07 am

Oh, you're no fun. ;o)

Apologies (sincerely) for the splatter.

Bill Donnelly link

3/16/2013 01:04:21 am

Oh, you're no fun. ;o)

Apologies (sincerely) for the splatter.

joe

7/3/2014 01:28:35 pm

Jason is the biggest hypocrite in the world, therefore he is a liberal democrat. He does not like lying but is the biggest liar in the world. This ugly, fat, low IQ dummy pretends he is, in his words, A BESTSELLING AUTHOR. Too funny. If you added up his lifetime book sales it would not equal one day of a BESTSELLING AUTHOR. Debunk that, moron, but since you are a liberal lying sack of dung, you CANNOT. You won't reveal your book sales, since they are measure in the hundreds.

Bobdds

3/16/2013 03:22:12 am

Scott seems like such a sincere guy that I find myself hoping terribly for him to make some great discovery or at least even ask some great question. It is such a throw away show unfortunately bc the leaps of his conclusions are so far outside normal fact based scientific methods- I know it wouldn't change the weakness of the arguments but even if it were presented as "is it possible?" It would be a lot less frustrating than have him see things he so badly wants to connect so therefore they are- the letter X is probably in every culture and form of writing- to find a scratched X from maybe Jesus bone box and proclaim it knights Templar and Masonic lodge is so far beyond even the most liberal peer reviewed journal- he has a platform- some interesting artifacts - teach us things that are known, reasonable possibilities and that is all we need for a decent show- don't swing for the fences- just makes the whole game bad and we are actually rooting for the home team.

Ed Russell

3/17/2013 02:53:37 am

To those who feel Mr. Wolter's does "pseudo-science": Recall all of those "nut cases" who said our planet is NOT the center of the universe? Or those crazies who claimed the world is round? Or how about that whack job who hypothesized about gravity? Or proved travel to the moon? Or space travel was impossible? Or any number of places were simply myth and never existed, yet were found? So many of you focus on Mr. Wolter's credentials, not on the questions--some of which are a bit "out there"--and not on trying to determine if he might be right. The fact remains that "crazies" like him are those who advance our understanding of history and the world, of nature and our place in the universe. He shouldn't be condemned in any way. It's not psuedo-science he practices, it's questioning the status quo, and that is, as so many of you have proven, something to criticize and chastize unjustly and immaturely. Mr. Wolter might not have a true degree in geology, but as someone earlier mentioned, you don't need a degree to search for the truth. The truth is beyond us. While some hypotheses may seem utterly ludicrous, he raises more important questions than ones that are a stretch, even for him.

When you choose to criticize someone, you're simply showing how narrow-minded you are about something. Don't be the Church that burns or exiles and excommnicates a heretic only to realize years later that that heretic was closer to the truth than you wanted to admit.

Jason Colavito link

3/17/2013 02:58:13 am

Guests writing in response to this blog post focused on his credentials because this post was about his false credentials. His degree or lack thereof does not impact his research. If you would like to see reasons why his research is flawed, click the "America Unearthed" tag on the right hand column of my blog and read my weekly episode reviews.

Aaron

3/17/2013 10:36:07 am

I have two observations after reading these posts;
1) Isn't referring to any degree that is prefaced as "honorary" as a credential slightly flawed? Doesn't the word "honorary" mean you didn't earn it? @ least not in the conventional way, right?

2) It seems many people think this show airs on The History Channel when in fact it airs on a channel called H2, to be fair your beef should really be w/ the A+E Networks, or their parent company's Hearst and Disney.

Either way if you are interested in "good pseudo-history" check out stuff on the Roman creation of the New Testament, the Egyptian origins of Judaism or the Bedouin origins of Egypt. I don't know yet if this site has criticism of these ideas but I'm about to find out.

Kudos if that was really Scott Wolter w/ a response, in my opinion the show is about 99% ridiculous but you get to see some great places not normally presented on TV. I don't care if they built that underground chamber in PA two weeks before the show, that place was cool. I was also sad to not see an episode about the Red Paint People.

Paul Elshoff

3/18/2013 05:38:01 am

Aaron;
I agree. In fact, after seeing more episodes now, I am seeing a parallel to the infamous opening by Geraldo Rivera of Al Capone's Alleged Secret Vault.

Robert W. McKinney

3/18/2013 11:43:58 am

Dear Jason,

I have noticed that honorary degrees are worthless whether they are legitimate or not. The worst part is that in a study done by the book publishing industry in 1991, they determined that only twenty percent of the U S population bought or read "a" book in the previous year. They broke it down further by saying of the twenty percent that did buy or read a book in the year, the vast majority read were romance novels. Only one percent of the population read a book outside their area of business. In other words, a lawyer reading a law book did not count in this survey. A person that reads on an interested subject does not need to have a degree to have credibility.

I have a B.A. in history but I would suspect that I have the equivalent of a Ph.D. due to the subsequent reading that I have done for about two hours each day for the past forty years. I have never taken a college course that had the time to cover all of a text book during the semester of study, there were always parts of the book skipped. In my case I have read numerous text books on history that I read word for word but I received no credit for. Abe Lincoln got a law degree like that. An who is to say if Scott Wolter did not get the equivalent of a Ph.D. in his study and reading of Geology after his formal schooling. Some of us have to make a living rather than fulfilling the whims of some professor that thinks you have to be an expert in math in order to study history.

Sincerely,
Robert W. McKinney

Jason Colavito link

3/18/2013 11:50:41 am

I have often and frequently said no degree is necessary to study history or learn from it. I don't have a degree in history. The issue with Scott Wolter was the lying, not the degree itself.

It wouldn't matter if he did have a real master's degree, he's still wrong based on the facts, not whether he has letters after his name.

Paul Elshoff

3/18/2013 04:55:18 pm

Exactly, Jason. The facts: You do not collect DNA evidence without masks over your mouth and eyes; 1. for safety of yourself and others while collecting (which he/they did not do); 2. to prevent his/their very own breath from contaminating the sample you are extracting DNA from when they unrolled the clear cover over the Mason apron of Lewis; 3. You do not hold the fresh sample swab collected, up into the air so your camera may verify a "stain" on the cotton swab you collected; as that alone, will contaminate the DNA sample with ambient air. Likewise, there was zero evidence that the lab was certified to process DNA samples. Additionally, the lab tech stated the sample did not match the Lewis family; but additionally, there were multiple (more than one) contributors to the sample collected, according to the lab. Who breathed on it after uncovering it? Who breathed on it when the shooting occurred? Who touched the apron after the shooting occurred? This whole scenario as shown, was a violation of the most simplistic evidence-processes existing. This man would be laughed out of court by any senior high school mock trail jury, just based on evidence collection.

Billy Randolph

3/28/2013 03:04:02 pm

Thank you Paul for sharing your very interesting knowledge and teaching us about possible contamination.

Chris Osowski

3/18/2013 03:52:11 pm

The dialogue I have read here is almost as interesting and entertaining as I find the show to be. I think it is great that Scott Wolter joined the fray to defend himself and clear things up about Mr. Colavito's reasearch here in this discussion. Even if everything Mr. Wolter presents and argues turns out to be complete crap and utter entertainment, it has been, in my eyes, presented in a much more plausible and professional manner than a lot of the other similar shows on television.

CFC

3/19/2013 06:44:48 am

"I think it is great that Scott Wolter joined the fray to defend himself and clear things up..."

I see he has not removed the "honorary degree" from various locations on the internet.

Clearing things up would be admitting that it is wrong to make fraudulent claims about your educational credentials AND removing the misleading information wherever it may be.

Sort-of fan

3/24/2013 08:03:09 am

Ridiculous comment: If you think he CAN remove (anything!) from various locations on the internet, you must never have tried! Some real estate outfit put my address as having been sold in 1984 for $89k - with a first lien on it for $364k (!!) -- and no matter how many YEARS (!) I have spent writing to and following up on a zillion sites -- it keeps reappearing. I've lived here since 1980, and it was NEVER EVER sold for anything as low even as $150k -- but every doggoned algorithm on EVERY real estate-related site bases their 'valuation' on that non-existent sale. "Remove anything from the internet?! Just NOT POSSIBLE!

Ryan Jerisk

3/19/2013 06:55:44 am

After reading many of the comments I find myself thinking that a bunch of liberalcrats are hanging out here besides Scott. I hate status quo and refuse to think that governments (which include state sanctioned universities) across this globe are truthful in any form. Anybody who thinks Christopher Columbus discovered America really needs their cranial skull examined.

Sukhavati

11/26/2013 09:38:17 pm

I agree with you Ryan but I disagree these people are liberal or the amusing term progressives. They are sheeple .

Rocky Barney link

3/23/2013 05:23:47 am

Thanks for giving us the heads up on Scotts degrees. Although he may be lacking in educational hoopla, he makes up for it with imagination. So many of our highly "educated" persons lack this one trait. They simply spew the same rhetoric that they were taught, assuming all the while that what they were taught is correct. Einstein once said,"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant". It is great to have someone out there questioning the status quo.
As Euripides once said,"Question everything. Learn something. Answer nothing."

MarkW

3/23/2013 11:34:56 am

It's a little sad to see someone hammered like this for what I think is a minor fib. When I was a kid I enjoyed reading 'Chariots of the Gods' and 'The Bermuda Triangle'. Even at the time I doubted them but I enjoyed them all the same. I still get a kick out of the odd documentary on those topics. Its fun to fantasize. Many of the topics Scott brings up i've never heard of. Some or all of these things may be hoaxes but, if hoaxes, they began, sometimes, hundreds of years ago. That's fascinating. Its history of a different sort. So I wish everyone would leave Scott alone. We need more like him. Inspire and fire our imaginations and the imaginations of our children. Get out, get your hands dirty and away from those horrid video games, and unearth your own mysteries before its too late - before you grow up and have all of life's mysteries beaten out of you. More power to you Scott. Keep on doing it.

Sort-of fan

3/24/2013 08:08:12 am

If this show (which I enjoy, even if I do occasionally wince) gets even 100 kids across this anti-science, anti-education country to go look something up or read a book -- MAJOR success! If this show gets anyone to reconsider whether or not everything they were taught in school is valid -- MAJOR success! If watching this or even Ancient Aliens makes someone actually THINK about whether or not they should believe everything they've been handed by the powers that be? MAJOR success!! People are so uninterested in learning anything -- that if postulating something interesting but maybe outside "normal" understandings makes people think or research something?! BRAVO!

Jason Colavito link

3/24/2013 08:13:15 am

Against that you might argue that if even a single child decides to become a scientist because of anti-vaccine hysteria, all those illnesses that might otherwise have been prevented are worth it. Inspiration is all well and good (I've credited ancient astronauts with inspiring my interest in history), but the real damage done by believing these ideas doesn't exactly outweigh the few who will be inspired not to accept what the TV says as true.

terry the censor

3/24/2013 09:23:51 am

Jason is correct. The Bush administration ignored the weapons inspectors who were on the ground in Iraq because the experts didn't give them the answers they wanted to hear. Instead, the neocons believed made-up nonsense from Iraqi ex-pats who knew they wanted to hear it. Ten years later, Iraq is still a horrible mess. And no one says, "Well, if those 4400 service deaths and hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties inspire a hundred kids to be critical thinkers, it will have been worth it."

Rocky B. link

3/25/2013 10:35:24 am

Jason..
Couldn't the same theme be applied to the evening news or any other program on the boob tube? I do understand that Scotts offering himself up as having an honorary degree is somewhat suspect, I don't think it has any effect the avenues of thought that the program puts forth. His name could be George the ditch digger, and I would still watch. The ideas that the program has covered thus far are of no harm, and should not be compared to weapons inspectors in Iraq, or the deaths of thousands of people as terry the censor has implied. I have been an "investigator" of our ancient history, and know for fact that what we are taught is not what happened. Personally, I don't watch the show to get the cold, hard facts about the history of north America, nor do I ignore the new, (and sometimes very old), ideas that the show puts forth. Great entertainment though....
Bytheway...Great Blog! I thoroughly enjoy it!

Rocky B. link

3/25/2013 10:35:38 am

Rocky B. link

3/25/2013 10:35:52 am

Jason..
Couldn't the same theme be applied to the evening news or any other program on the boob tube? I do understand that Scott offering himself up as having an honorary degree is somewhat suspect, I don't think it has any effect the avenues of thought that the program puts forth. His name could be George the ditch digger, and I would still watch. The ideas that the program has covered thus far are of no harm, and should not be compared to weapons inspectors in Iraq, or the deaths of thousands of people as terry the censor has implied. I have been an "investigator" of our ancient history, and know for fact that what we are taught is not what happened. Personally, I don't watch the show to get the cold, hard facts about the history of north America, nor do I ignore the new, (and sometimes very old), ideas that the show puts forth. Great entertainment though....
By the way...Great Blog! I thoroughly enjoy it!

Rocky B. link

3/25/2013 10:36:15 am

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Well Jason you can pump yourself up with all the Mercury you want with those flu vaccines but make sure you read the white papers . I have not had a flu shot in 35 years and never get the flu or the common cold.

Sort-of fan

3/24/2013 08:12:17 am

p.s., Scott? If you're still reading -- I'm actually RE-reading your book on the Hooked X right now. Enjoyed when I first read it a couple years ago, am enjoying it again. I SO mistrust "academe" and their "color within OUR lines or we'll throw you out!" viciousness, that I'd almost give MORE credence to someone outside the lines than someone who has chosen to sell-out, to whatever degree, to keep a place in the schools... I need the scientific data-back-up to validate -- but I'd start with allowing more fringe ideas than not. (My hero has always been Alfred Wegener -- of whom, of course, you know -- but let's let the commenters go read a book about him!)

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3/28/2013 03:29:39 pm

Jerome. Can you please share with us how you know that. Thank you for teaching us.

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To the author of this article, this is just a sad and disgraceful waste of your time. I would like to believe you are the exact type of person that has inspired Scott to continue his work and production of the show. I hope for you sake you use your time more wisely in future.

Jason Colavito link

3/26/2013 12:27:35 am

Seriously? Against the more than one million words of original research I've written over the past 10+ years, these few paragraphs, which took all of 15 min. to confirm, are a disgraceful waste? And you also have no problem with Wolter lying about his honorary degree for more than two decades?

You know that in the corporate world, people get fired for faking their resumes.

CFC

3/26/2013 02:00:28 am

Anyone thinking of doing business with Mr. Wolter and his company in the future will now find (thanks to Jason), that he has been making false claims about his credentials for a couple of decades. Faking information on your resume should never be tolerated.

Jim Jones Punch

11/25/2013 10:26:28 pm

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Shane

3/26/2013 02:10:38 pm

WOW...I just started watching Scott's show and I find it fascinating. A conversation I was just having with my wife before I just googled him and found this so called blog. We spoke of the fact of how "experts" have to be right or they are no longer considered experts.

I am finding the nay sayers on this post to be very close minded and as someone else pointed out trying to decrease credibility by going after his credentials. You are making yourselves out to be the "experts" proving themselves right. It doesn't make alot of sense to take that stance to those of us who are open minded and rely on common sense to make up our minds vs what the so called "experts" tell us to think.

To be honest I never went to college and I am sure I am more successful than most people commenting on this thread.

What is wrong with questioning anything after supplying proof it needs to be questioned?

and (just to be grammatically juvenile) since I am not of such intellect as all of you who went to college can say this on behalf of those who are thinking it...

Tara is obviously on the payroll or sucking on something that might belong to Jason.

If you want to attack people, attack them for being bad people.

Jason Colavito link

3/27/2013 01:16:48 am

I'm starting to get annoyed with this line of attack. I've written more than 1 million words investigating alternative history, including almost 100,000 about the factual problems with America Unearthed. And yet somehow everyone who Googles Scott Wolter comes to this page and mistakes these few paragraphs for the summation of my life's work.

Let me make three points clear:

1. Scott Wolter's credentials are important insofar as he relies upon them to support his "expertise" in evaluating ancient artifacts.

2. Whether he is a geologist or a rodeo clown makes no difference to whether the facts he presents are correct. The facts are independent of the claimant.

3. Scott Wolter is wrong about almost every fact.

Dr. Tod

4/30/2014 05:56:06 pm

You are getting annoyed at reaction to your comments on your blog... That's rich. Haha, how do you think Scott feels having to read your attacks, many of which he likely finds meritless of based on a flawed understanding?

David

2/3/2015 12:21:53 pm

Come on people, this is a TV show. Entertainment for the sake of entertainment. Debunking the show or Wolters is like debunking, Chariot of the Gods. We all understand what it is. It's entertaining. Do any of us really care if the Holy Grail is in Nova Scotia ? So just enjoy and move on to something really worthy of discussion like has Obama been replaced with an alien lookalike ?

Jerome DeWolfe

3/27/2013 06:20:05 am

I believe that what television is about is entertainment. I find America Unearthed to be good entertainment. Do you think for a minute that those idiots on MSNBC or FOX News are journalists? I find Scott Wolter an interesting character who's strong in his beliefs. Right or wrong? I'm reminded of Norman Mailer who said that some of the best fiction he's ever read goes under the heading of History. It's good that you have the juevos to comment under your own name, Jason, unlike most of these inept losers who leave little piles of their ravings all over the internet.

Jason Colavito link

3/27/2013 06:30:07 am

If you believe that the best we can aspire to in broadcasting is lying, then this is a sad time for humanity. Ideally, one could both entertain and inform at the same time. I don't really understand that argument that lies should be excused because it's "only" entertainment, as if innumerable people were not accepting it as true because the TV said so.

jerome dewolfe

3/27/2013 08:09:25 am

Whoa! Did I use the word "lying" somewhere? You true believers read into things what you want to hear. Television is about entertainment and is laced with fiction - just look at politics. Broadcasters need advertisers and will kill to get them. The sad time for humanity is that everyone is bought off - everything has a price.

Jason Colavito link

3/27/2013 08:15:17 am

My point is that it behooves all of us to hold TV to a higher standard, not to just passively accept that whatever makes money is by definition good.

terry the censor

3/27/2013 08:17:19 am

When I started looking into fringe topics a few years ago, I expected to find ambiguous facts over which people held an honest difference of opinion. I was so naive.

As I had hoped, there were believers and skeptics who were well-informed, respected facts, observed rules of evidence and valued scientific processes. You could disagree with their conclusions, but you respected them and they were reliable sources of information. Sadly, these fact-based people make up just a tiny sliver of the fringe "experts" and pundits. They tend not to get invited to conferences, rarely get time on Coast-to-Coast AM or in documentaries, and only the serious fringe watchers buy their books.

I was shocked to learn that for most people in fringedom, especially the fandom, facts just don't matter. Believer or skeptic, what matters most is what "side" you are on. One factor that makes the believer fandom come off much worse than the skeptic fandom: a very strong tendency to abandon the discussion of facts so as to go right into full-blown conspiracy thinking. For fringe fandom, this is their "safe place," where rhetoric trumps evidence.

This state of mind is abundantly demonstrated in these America Unearthed comment sections. The AU fans don't care a whit if Wolter is lying about his qualifications, making up facts, excluding evidence he disagrees with, and making just plain loopy analyses -- as long as Wolter's disagreeing with establishment experts, Wolter must be on to something, Wolter is providing a service. It doesn't matter to them at all that Wolter's analyses are far more speculative and biased than imputed to the academic concensus. What matters is that facts don't matter and that Wolter is on the right "side" of things.

When facts don't matter, one is living a willful delusion.

Sukhavati

11/26/2013 09:28:43 pm

Welcome to the real world Jason , I am glad you finally realized that television is not the real world .

jerome dewolfe

3/27/2013 11:02:57 am

Again, that's entertainment, and YOUR higher standards or the delusions of your pseudo censor's analysis (?) matter little. People apparently want to be entertained and Wolter found the key with his hooked X, since I understand his show is scheduled for another season. Hooray for Fandom!

Jason Colavito link

3/27/2013 12:29:42 pm

That's an interesting question. What is the obligation of the media: to give people only the least they will accept or to try to encourage them to want better? At one time, the argument went that TV must show broad sitcoms and didactic dramas because audiences couldn't handle sophisticated programming. And yet now we have much richer programs. It is possible to do better, and the argumentum ad populum that the dim shall inherit the earth is the excuse of those whose first priority is cash.

Shane

3/27/2013 02:19:27 pm

"I'm starting to get annoyed with this line of attack. I've written more than 1 million words investigating alternative history, including almost 100,000 about the factual problems with America Unearthed. And yet somehow everyone who Googles Scott Wolter comes to this page and mistakes these few paragraphs for the summation of my life's work."

Ummm pretty sure you started this blog thread of yours attacking someone who has accomplished what you are trying to. Their own TV show and whether you believe in what he says or not what is the point in being a hater. You are a shining example of what is wrong with this country.
Try something new, try being positive by chasing your own dreams instead of putting down or trying to decrease someone who is achieving theirs.

Jason Colavito link

3/27/2013 02:34:10 pm

"Try something new, try being positive by chasing your own dreams instead of putting down or trying to decrease someone who is achieving theirs."

That's the sort of happy talk that tells us that all ideas are equally valid, every point of view is right, and all the children are above average. Let me repeat something I've said before: The person of Scott Wolter is largely irrelevant to his ideas. Those ideas are wrong on their own, and it is important to say so.

Critics have an important role to play in helping us to whittle away bad ideas so only the good survive. I don't think that you'd tell Edmund Wilson or Roger Ebert that their lives were wasted by being critics.

terry the censor

3/27/2013 03:34:19 pm

@Shane

> attacking someone who has accomplished what you are trying to. Try being positive by chasing your own dreams instead of putting down or trying to decrease someone who is achieving theirs.

Being dishonest is an achievement? So long as you get the TV show, the end justifies the means?

jerome dewolfe

3/27/2013 02:55:34 pm

Let us not forget that the (mean) average IQ for humanity is 100 with a SD of +- 15. This means that the average media programmer and the average person watching that program is probably sitting on a two digit IQ. The dilemma for media execs is that if they hire Friedman and Mandelbaum's "unique value creators" to create sophisticated programming, the proportion of viewers will decrease as they rise up the IQ scale. This doesn't present a healthy popular rating and is, therefore, detrimental to getting deep pocketed advertisers. For example, I imagine that Keith Olbermann attracted a high IQ audience but his ratings were affected because of the significantly lower probability of having higher IQs - so he was replaced by a more popular culture commentator and the dim has inherited the earth.

CFC

3/27/2013 03:04:31 pm

I think Scott Wolter desperately wants to be viewed as a credible investigator. Instead he comes across like a pushy pretender making preposterous claims and proving nothing. H2 has no credibility with the professional and scholarly community and neither does Mr. Wolter.

Jerome DeWolfe

3/27/2013 03:51:51 pm

I don't think that anyone cares about your professional and scholarly community. It's about getting viewers. Wolter and others are beginning to batter down the tired, old ivory towers of academia.

CFC

3/27/2013 07:46:57 pm

Oh really?
Then why did Mr. Wolter falsely claim to have an “honorary master’s degree” from one of those "old ivory towers of academia" for more than two decades ?

I believe people falsify this type of information because they believe it adds value or status to their credentials. Obviously the licensing board that contacted him had concerns. He got caught out and I believe all would agree it is wrong to pad your credentials and falsify information on your resume.

No college/university or professional organization that I've been involved with would EVER tolerate this kind of misconduct.
I'm certain the University of Minnesota Duluth would agree that it is wrong to make these false claims.

If H2 promotes a show when the host and producers ridicule academia, criticizes teachers, and slams government agencies and professionals, they can do that but this is why the History Channel has no credibility.

jerome dewolfe

3/28/2013 03:03:08 am

I think I wrote "…tired, old ivory towers of academia." I am not concerned about what you believe nor do I give any credibility to anyone that doesn't have the balls to use their own name on these blogs rather than hiding behind a pseudonym - meaning that you don't stand behind your little piles of wit. I admire Scott Wolter's courage and intelligence and he certainly stands up for what he believes.

These days, according to Dan Rather, people with PhDs in science can't find work and here is Wolter with his "honorary degree with a whipped cream-topped coffee as his certificate” who is not only working but has his own TV show. I can see why you and Colavito are so upset. The History Channel doesn't have any credibility with you apparently, but it's still there somehow.

Jason Colavito link

3/28/2013 03:09:33 am

I think you are confusing what people have a right to do and what makes money with what it would be good for people to do. There is a difference. No one claims Scott Wolter doesn't have the right to proclaim his views far and wide, but you must therefore agree that those who disagree also have the right to explain why we disagree with his claims.

CFC

3/28/2013 03:13:10 am

Jerome,
I do care about what academia and professionals organizations think of Mr. Wolter's actions, so I'll talk to the university officials and the licensing board in the state of Minnesota about this. We'll see if they share your enthusiam for his courage and intelligence.

I would point out by the way that there is no way of knowing on this blog that you are who you claim to be.

Jim Jones Punch

11/25/2013 10:38:57 pm

So you will talk to the university officials and the licensing board in the state of Minnesota about this . I bet that just scares the hell out of him considering how much pull you have . You are a joke without a punch line !

jerome dewolfe

3/28/2013 03:28:50 am

I'm not confusing anything, colavito and if "CFC" had any smarts, all he'd have to do is google my name - can't do the same with his. All I can write at this point is to agree with Shane above: "...what is the point in being a hater. You are a shining example(s) of what is wrong with this country.
Try something new, try being positive by chasing your own dreams instead of putting down or trying to decrease someone who is achieving theirs." Well said Shane!

CFC

3/28/2013 03:40:26 am

Jerome,
I'm all for people chasing their dreams but our society doesn't condone lying.

Thanks for motivating me to be a stand up guy and take my concerns to those who need to hear about these falsehoods. Email and telephone contact has now been made with the University of MN Duluth and the licensing board.

If Jason establishes a policy to confirm and disclose identities, I'll be happy to comply with his request.

shirley

8/28/2013 09:55:08 pm

OMG, CFC " our society doesn't condone lying" Have you heard the line " I did not have sexual relations with that woman" That liar continued to run the whole darn country (society) after that little fiblet.
Whether Scott has the degrees he " should have" is irrelevant to me as one of the points of his show is ask us to question history. Considering how wrong history has been proven to be many times in the past, I think he is asking us to consider other possibilities and I admire him for that. Can you imagine when the vikings returned home with stories of the new world. I bet some guy with a blog asked Eric and Leif to prove that with a degree. No degree? Well I guess your story can't be true then.

Ge Ki

8/29/2013 01:15:52 am

Shirley, I sure remember the Clinton lie, and I don't recall anyone condoning it. Just because he did not receive the ultimate punishment, removal from office, that doesn't mean our society condoned the lie. In fact, it cost him a tremendous amount of support and prevented him from doing a lot of what he wanted to do.

Second, and for the umpteenth time on this blog, nobody is saying Wolter "should have" any particular degree. The point is that he should not lie about it. Otherwise, as with Clinton, his credibility suffers. Do you condone Wolter's lying? Would you teach your kids that it's OK to lie about having an honorary degree?

jerome dewolfe

3/28/2013 04:03:34 am

Well! CFC is getting the courage to stand behind his little piles of wit. The next step is for him to develop the courage to use his real name to the UMN. But nothing will change - Wolter will still be going around the country finding his Hooked Xs and his show will go on as scheduled next fall. There are very smart people at H2 who know to find winning smiles (now I know what Wolter is smiling about all the time).

Did CFC actually write that "our society doesn't condone lying"? That's a new on on me. I'm a member of the Spirit Lake Dakota Nation and all we ever got from you people were lies (if by "our society" you mean American), what politicians of the day called treaties.

Jason Colavito link

3/28/2013 04:19:01 am

I'm not understanding your point, Jerome. You seem to be arguing that the ends justify the means, and so long as H2 is making money no one should be concerned about their product. Does this apply in your view to other areas? For example, racist and sexist advertisements have been highly effective and made tons of money for big business in decades past. Were advocates wrong to be concerned about the messages these ads sent even though they were not illegal? Or is this just more hating on success?

CFC

3/28/2013 04:17:16 am

My identity has been disclosed to the organizations in question and as I said before, if Jason's policy changes I'm happy to comply.

My reference to society not condoning lying was in reference to Mr. Wolter making false claims only.

jerome dewolfe

3/28/2013 06:02:21 am

In our (American) capitalistic society, the ends do justify the means! (See Michael Moore's piece - "Capitalism: A Love Story.") I'm not saying that I believe it, but that it's a reality of living in this country (USA). Ask the Banks if the profits from their criminal student loans are worth it. Ask the defense industry if the wars in the Middle East are worth it. Ask Congressmen if supporting the NRA is worth it. And on and on! Yes Horatio! In America, the ends do justify the means!

It really doesn't matter what the American people think anymore. The majority of people in America support the enactment of gun laws, but our bought-off Congress refuses to act! Their fear of not getting re-elected and their payoffs from gun manufacturers are more important to them than the lives of American five year olds. Yeah, were gonna get you sucka!

I'm saying that as long as America Unearthed is enjoyed by a large number of viewers and, therefore, followed by supporting advertisers, H2 is probably not concerned with your little piles of wit. colavito is stretching the issue a little far by bringing racism and sexism to the table. He should ask those big businesses that profited from racist and sexist advertising if the ends justified the means.

Jason Colavito link

3/28/2013 06:13:39 am

I don't think you're understanding my point about the difference between "is" and "ought." You are describing the way things are right now, and I am speaking of the way I feel things should be.

If you seriously feel that as a society we ought to advocate a morality that extends no farther than whoever pays the most money wins, then the fault is not mine. It's attitudes like that, the nihilistic resignation, which prevent change from ever occurring.

Jim Jones Punch

11/25/2013 10:57:36 pm

You sound like one of those 2nd amendment haters and we all ready have plenty of gun laws . I feel sorry for you when or if you need protection and the police are 20 minutes late . bye , bye.

jerome dewolfe

3/28/2013 06:17:24 am

Oh yeah! Did I read CFC saying something about "…false claims"? Good God man! Look at the Bush 43 administration and the false claims made about Iraq. His "false claims" that cost thousands of American and Iraqi lives, let alone trillions of dollars. Yes Horatio! W established a new tradition in this country! I believe that CFC would be well advised to attack the Republican Elephant rather than the flea crawling up its leg. But then, he lacks courage!

Jason Colavito link

3/28/2013 06:23:39 am

This is a blog about claims regarding archaeology and ancient history. If you are interested in political lies, there are plenty of forums for that.

jerome dewolfe

3/28/2013 06:36:56 am

You remind me of Bill Clinton when he said "You have to define what is is." But the way you "feel" may be important to you, but surely not to the leaders of our capitalistic society. If dreams were horses, beggars would ride! Look at Michael Moore who couldn't even get in to see corporate CEOs and who had to stand out in the streets of Washington DC asking congressmen to please send their children to Iraq during the height of that war. No one seemed to care about what Michael Moore thought about the way "things should be." And the song plays on!

jerome dewolfe

3/28/2013 07:04:52 am

Well wether you like it or not, your statement that "This is a blog about claims regarding archaeology and ancient history" has interfaced with that of the entertainment industry. I've said that H2s support of Wolter is a function of their entertainment industry and not academia. You confuse the two. Also, your attack on Wolter's so called "false claims" has a very strong precedent in American political history. You should try to find another outlet for venting your frustrations and leave Wolter be.

Jason Colavito link

3/28/2013 07:07:41 am

If you check my publication history, you'll see I am also a well-reviewed entertainment critic. I wrote a standard history of the horror genre.

So if my "attack" resonates with American political history, doesn't Wolter's attack on academia resonate with the no-nothing, rabble-rousing anti-intellectual streak in American politics? By your logic, he should therefore go away, too, and stop venting his frustrations with academia.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

3/29/2013 03:39:18 pm

I must post a defense of my friend, Scott Wolter. I have known Scott for 25+ years as both a professional colleague and a personal friend (so I admit up-front that I have SOME "bias" going on, but also a long-standing understanding of Scott and his work.).

Back when he began his work on the Kensington runestone, I advised him to avoid it, as it was already known to be a fraud. I spent time alongside him in his lab, and followed his work VERY closely as a skeptic and a critic. I was wrong.

He pains-takingly developed and followed several lines of evidence that in my opinion CLEARLY indicate authenticity -- the rune forms, the vocabulary, and the weathering of the minerals in the inscribed lines all suggest that the inscription does indeed date from the 14th century and almost certainly were NOT a hoax perpetrated by Olaf Ohman.

My own degree includes a minor in North American anthropology/archaeology. I have for a LONG time been very surprised and annoyed by the hidebound notion among academics that ANY dated site older than "Clovis, New Mexico" (12,500 B.P.) CANNOT be correct because "everyone already KNOWS that "Clovis" is THE earliest site" (!!!!!!) ... BY DEFINITION ... ??? Really ... ???

One certainly CAN argue with any and all of Scott Wolters' studies and conclusions about the sites and discoveries (and their interpretations) as shown on the programs on the History Channel ... (But ... those ARE ... "TV Shows" ...) If anything, at least, they DO very interestingly underline an entirely APPROPRIATE challenge to a received very hidebound set of claims about the pre-Columbian history of North America and the great likelihood of MANY cultural contacts with "The Old World" prior to Columbus ...

CFC

4/6/2013 03:34:07 am

Thanks for sharing some personal perceptive as a friend of Mr. Wolter. But science is not a personal matter. It is about proof and evidence and there continues to be many questions about the Kensington Rune Stone that call into question its authenticity.

If Mr. Wolter had confidence in his evidence about the KRS then he would have written a scientific paper and put those claims to the test in a manner that can be reviewed and verified by the scientific community. He has failed to do so and will continue to be heavily criticized, as he should be.

Regarding the "non- existent degree" and faking of information on his resume (the topic of this string), that is unacceptable and warrants no further discussion. It’s just plain WRONG!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/8/2013 09:19:37 am

Yes ... The KRS studies are a DIFFERENT question than Scott's resume ...

But, again ... His work on the KRS is pretty good ... He was hired as a paid qualified professional to do the studies for a client, and he later picked up that ball and ran with it as his own passion ...

Anyone who has tried to publish anything that is interesting because it goes against accepted claims and conclusions knows that it ain't easy ... His published material on the KRS is freely available for any and all to pursue and critique ...

A concern I note (above) is that I do agree with Scott that North American Archaeology IS often rigidly hidebound and tied into a distinctly CLOSED-mind-set, as witness, again, e.g., the sacrosanct nature of the "Clovis" date ...

Having a shark-feeding-frenzy on Scott Wolter is NOT helpful in attempts to "getting at" some of the genuinely interesting history questions, no matter one's final conclusions ... THAT is my point ...

CFC

4/8/2013 10:38:29 am

Phil,
I will state it again:
"If Mr. Wolter had confidence in his evidence about the KRS then he would have written a scientific paper and put those claims to the test in a manner that can be reviewed and verified by the scientific community. He has failed to do so and will continue to be heavily criticized, as he should be."

Check out the Geoscience standards for publishing. His self-published company report does not come close to meeting those requirements. How can someone claiming to be a "World Renowned Geologist" not follow these basic professional /scientific standards? That's my point!!!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/8/2013 01:28:02 pm

Yes, I am entirely familiar with expectations and standards and approved processes in academic publishing and peer review ...

That is a DIFFERENT question than the thorough and quite good study of the KRS performed by Scott Wolter as laid out in his book, "The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence." (all 574 pages) ... Are you familiar with it ... ??? Have you read it ... ??? Surely you would not attempt to critique a study you haven't read, would you ... ???

CFC

4/9/2013 11:27:31 am

Yes, I have read it in fact. It is a company report in a self-published book. This type of document has no standing in the scientific community.

You can admire his company report all you like but it comes down to whether or not the scientific community can verify and endorse his work. They must be individuals that do not have a conflict of interest and are unbiased in their reviews. If you don't believe me, check with the leaders in the field of geology.

It's a criticism of his lack of adherence to these basic professional standards and the scientific method.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/9/2013 02:46:50 pm

Yes, of course, I know what a scientific paper published in a peer reviewed scientific journal is, as distinct from a book such as the one under discussion.

I am NOT a scientific naif. My first degree was in biology and I have done some grad study in paleontology. I am a member of The Biology Section of The American Association for the Advancement of Science for now forty years. Every week I receive and read a premier scientific journal, "Science."

I'm pleased to know that you HAVE read Scott's book on the KRS. As I indicated, I spent some time alongside him in his lab as a skeptic and a critic.

Over the course of a couple of years of VERY thorough investigation, Scott and his co-workers developed several lines of evidence which all indicate authenticity of the KRS.

Scott HAS presented his material to interested scholars on more than one occasion, both in the USA and in Sweden.

Again, as I already commented (above), the History Channel TV show is just that -- a TV show. One may well argue with and reject any and all of the material presented and the conclusions urged for any or all of the episodes.

However, I DO affirm the main premise of the entire series, i.e., that knowledge and investigation and interpretation of North American history and archaeology ARE too often rigidly hidebound by a mindset that too quickly flatly dismisses evidence and possibilities that are not accepted in the mainstream.

Again. One of my minors was in North American Archeology. I have LONG been shocked and dismayed by, e.g., the sacrosanctity of the "Clovis" date (12,500 BP), which has until very recently been reason enough for most investigators to airily dismiss ANY and EVERY dated site which comes in "older," simply because EVERYONE already KNOWS that "Clovis" IS the OLDEST. By DEFINITION ... ??? Really ... ???

The "America Unearthed" series may well at very least help to stir up some OPEN minds to check out some possibilities. I hope so.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/9/2013 02:47:00 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/9/2013 02:47:30 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/9/2013 02:47:36 pm

Jason Colavito link

4/9/2013 11:28:48 pm

You do know that the "Clovis-first" theory has been dead for 15 years, right? After a blue-ribbon panel of archaeologsists confirmed Monte Verde was pre-Clovis, it is now widely accepted that Clovis wasn't first. This is actually a good example of how careful scholarship accumulated information that overturned a 50-year-old paradigm. Have you studies paradigm shifts and the structure of scientific revolutions?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/10/2013 12:07:04 am

LOL ...

Reread my posts and find the phrase, "until recently" ...

But IF it took a "blue ribbon panel" (!!!) to reconsider the sacrosanctity of the "Clovis" date ... well ... that DOES indicates its sacrosanctity, yes ... ??? That was my point, you see ...

Again ... I am all in favor of carefully methodically gathering data as we collectively seek to understand North American history ...

ONE instance of that is Scott Wolter's excellent work on the KRS ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/10/2013 12:07:09 am

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/10/2013 12:07:15 am

Jason Colavito link

4/10/2013 12:27:30 am

What do you consider "recently"? Fifteen years is a long time. The Clovis-first hypothesis was not sacrosanct; it wasn't even that old. It lasted a few decades in the twentieth century (c. 1960-2000) when it fit the best available evidence. (Clovis points were discovered in the 1920s, but Clovis-first was proposed much later, with the now-discredited "Man the Hunter" theory.) Then, when new evidence emerged, the paradigm shifted.

If scientific ideas about America's oldest cultures changed at least three times in the past century, I can't see how that's "hidebound" or dogmatic science.

CFC

4/10/2013 06:44:48 am

Rev. Phil,

Yes, I did suffer through the unedited book with hundreds of typos.

If you want to continue to support someone who has faked his credentials and claims he has authenticated an artifact using methods that aren’t recognized by the scientific community then you can do so. The scientific community will have the final say on authenticity, not an unqualified, self-proclaimed opportunist like Scott Wolter.

Mr. Wolter makes claims that others support his findings when the opposite is true.

It’s obvious to me that you are defending a friend who I know has deceived you.

Best Wishes

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/10/2013 10:17:31 am

Well ... Again ... I am NOT a scientific naif and my affirmation of Scott's work on the KRS is all about the EVIDENCE ...

But ... again ... Yes ... for a LONG time -- too long -- the 12,500 BP date was simply DEFINED as "the EARLIEST" ...

Shane Phillips

3/31/2013 01:25:40 pm

Try something new, try being positive by chasing your own dreams instead of putting down or trying to decrease someone who is achieving theirs.

"That's the sort of happy talk that tells us that all ideas are equally valid, every point of view is right, and all the children are above average. Let me repeat something I've said before: The person of Scott Wolter is largely irrelevant to his ideas. Those ideas are wrong on their own, and it is important to say so."

I am pretty sure your comment about America not condoning liars should be perceived as being more ridiculous than my comment. Academia lies to us more than anyone else in American history I believe. (you can do the research on that one...)

You never did put your numbers up for your book sales to prove your previous comments of being a best seller.

Jason Colavito link

3/31/2013 01:35:19 pm

The line about condoning liars wasn't mine. I think you have confused me with CFC.

This may be news to you but "bestseller" isn't a numeric description but a relative one. It refers to a book that sold better than others during a specific period. My Critical Companion to Ancient Aliens was an Amazon.com Best Seller in the archaeology new releases category in December 2012. This means that it sold more copies than all but 7 other books in the category during the measurement period.

Sukhavati

11/26/2013 09:46:21 pm

Jason you need to write a new book called : Jason Colavito for Dummies .

Shane Phillips

3/31/2013 03:56:06 pm

I guess that claiming to be a bestseller when you outsold 7 other books is news to me...Since you didn't provide any numbers to make the title look impressive, it is because it isn't, yet you still claim it yourself?

Pretty sure that makes you a hypocrite in this whole blog of yours and you should just delete the thread now.

Good job though on bringing some attention to yourself by bashing anyone you can.

terry the censor

4/1/2013 07:33:32 pm

@Shane

Is your position that Mr. Wolter is correct in anything he says? I ask because I don't see you making that case. Rather, you seem entirely satisfied of empty kook rhetoric ("naysayers," "close-minded") and attacking the critics of Mr. Wolter without assessing Wolter's claims in any way.

Tell us, what does Wolter get right and get wrong, and what is your evidence for these opinions?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/4/2013 03:40:32 pm

LOL ... Ironically, you are asking everyone else to make the mistake of drawing firm conclusions based upon cursory second-hand examination of very slight available evidence ... What would be the point ... ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/10/2013 12:02:21 pm

How many books has Erich von Daniken sold ... ???
;-)

Jason Colavito link

4/10/2013 12:05:53 pm

About one third as many as the For Dummies series. Draw your own conclusion.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/10/2013 04:39:47 pm

I understand that "novels" by Jackie Collins always sell REALLY well ...
;-)

scott lund

10/11/2013 05:36:10 pm

Jason, you have mail.....Rev. Gotsch, if you would be so kind, could you please look for an email from me if I can find your email? I linked to this comment because it is buried in the middle of the comments and a it goes to both of you, and only both of you.

Denzil

4/9/2013 12:15:55 pm

Hello everyone and welcome to my nightmare!!!!

When I was young, my parents and thier church determined what was right and what was wrong.
When I graduated high school(just barely). It was my teachers who determined what was right and what was wrong.
I baely graduated High Scool in 1976 because of my drug use. But actually, I was just lazy. And in that year, (drugs were not the poisonous chemicals that they are now. I grew my own marijuana, the speed was real amphetamines, and the cocaine made your face go numb.
After High School I was the sterotypical scientist, if you could not see, hear, taste, touch. or smell something, it did not exist. So what has happened in the last 37 years?
I woke up. Mostly from reading. Textbooks, science, science-fiction, fantasy, really anything I could get my hands on. Even dictionararies and in one case, a phonebook.
In all that time I learned only one thing that was fact. THINGS CHANGE.
Thats it, nothing fancy. But I can no longer say that something is right or wrong. I can only say that something is either highly probable, probable, possible, and most likely possible. Because the more we learn about any subject, the more questions we have. There are some things that you think would never change, but eventually, they do, or they will. I will speak with anyone on any subject, and even if I reject an idea, I still keep it in mind. Because someday, just maybe, it will be proven unable to be rejected.
About Steve and his show. Steve

Denzil

4/9/2013 12:31:21 pm

((Sorry, hit the wrong button. I HATE netbooks. The keyboards are way too small.))

(continued from above)

About Steve and his show. Steve seems to be a sincerely honest and forthright fellow. I do wish he would say for example, ("The wear on this stone would indicate that it has been exposed to the weather for blah-blah number of years.) However, nomatter what channel a show is on, it is produced for one reason only -- ENTERTAINMENT!
A person like Steve most likely has no say in what actually is broadcast. He, I am sure, does not control the editing, the audio, or when the producers decide to show one image and add audio from somewhere else. I have done television and radio production in my time and know this to be mostly probable. I will continue to watch his show because he gives me new ideas. And ideas, no matter how fantastic or improbable are more valuable than gold, or diamonds, or an absolute certainty that you are right and everyone else is wrong.

Thank you for your time.

Jason Colavito link

4/9/2013 01:07:01 pm

Thank you for your comments. You're right that in science any finding is provisional, but I hope you are able to recognize that Wolter's claims have extremely low probabilities of being true.

Just because something is produced as entertainment, that doesn't give it an excuse for being lazy or false. Programs that claim to speak for history take on a higher standard. You can't dismiss concerns about the false information the TV is spewing into American homes (and, now, homes worldwide) just because you accept the lowest possible standard for TV. TV can do better and viewers should demand that it do better.

Tay

4/16/2013 04:11:32 pm

Found this site from Wikipedia, trying to see if the show has another season. Glad it does. Scott is a hero for shining a light on the pompous academic world. "Scholars" have been proven wrong so many times I don't believe a word they say. And archeologists are the worst. It isn't much of a science since they don't actually perform too many experiments to back up their pontifications. They mainly rob graves.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/16/2013 04:30:37 pm

No ... Modern archaeologists are NOT "grave robbers" any more, in the infamous mold of "Indiana Jones" and such ... They DO frequently, however, sometimes wildly over-interpret their data ...

Tay

4/17/2013 12:39:07 pm

Well, actually, by definition;

Grave Robber - one that breaks open a grave to obtain interred valuables or to remove the body

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grave%20robber

The fact that the state sanctions it and that you call yourself some "-ology" name doesn't alter the fact. The deceased was intentionally buried and he or his relatives or culture would not condone his removal. Putting their belongings in a museum doesn't lessen it either. Can I put on a funny hat and dig up your grandmother with a spoon and toothbrush, and then put her wedding ring and Sunday finest clothes in a museum? Thought not. End of discussion.

terry the censor

4/16/2013 04:46:47 pm

> Scott is a hero for shining a light on the pompous academic world.

Your reasoning is absurd. Even if we grant your untenable premise that academics are just making stuff up, that in no way justifies Wolter's own blatant fabulism. Wolter is not fact-checking academics and showing them up -- which would be a noble act -- he's improvising his way towards a predetermined punchline.

Lexi T

4/17/2013 12:11:26 am

This is directed at Scott F. Wolter. As I see he was participating in this discussion, and is probably paying attention to it still. I wanted to ask if he is planning any adventures in Utah? Many things to see here.
I for one enjoy his show on the history channel, and think there really is something to his work. You don't need to hold a degree to be intelligent. Would you insult Michael Faraday, William Herschel, Mary Anning or Gregor Mendel?
Imagination is how Albert Einstein dreamed up his theory of relativity. Without people like the above mentioned and Scott Wolter to challenge and prove their own theories and others, theories right or wrong, we would be in the dark ages. I know that Mr. Colavito has a B.A Degree, he would know the works of Leonardo Da Vinci; self taught scientist and someone who challenged what was then known. No one knows why inspiration strikes certain people, but when it does, it doesn't care if, they have a degree or not. People can be gifted, their minds open to things others overlook or just don't care to see. Don't tear down the people, who challenge the norm, they are those who will be in the history books.

Jason Colavito link

4/17/2013 12:27:22 am

You obviously misunderstand me. One does not need a degree to make a contribution to a field. The issue I was addressing was Mr. Wolter's twenty years of lying about a non-existent degree. None of the scientists you cited lied about degrees, either to the public or to government accrediting agencies. It is not an insult to point out that Mr. Wolter's resume contained a falsehood for two decades.

If you click the "America Unearthed" link on the right hand column of the blog, you will see that I have extensively reviewed Mr. Wolter's arguments and found them wanting on a factual level.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/17/2013 02:50:35 am

Discussing and critiquing a study or a claim is one thing; attacking or demeaning a person is another ...

Reviewing an "argument" is different than actually examining evidence ... For example, there were not a few "scholars" who flatly rejected the authenticity of the Kensington Rune Stone without ever having SEEN it or personally done any work on it in any respect ...

Lexi T

4/17/2013 12:00:56 pm

My apologies for any misunderstanding. But my statement was mainly directed at those who are tearing down his work, and his show. As for his degree and him "lying", people are liars; it is in human nature to lie. I am sure that if Mr. Wolter lied as you so bluntly put it, as you stated he allowed an idea to be presented about him that wasn't accurately true. If was done, it was to give himself credibility, in a scholar society who readily dismiss non “Educated” claims. As even known scholars even try to discredit fellow scholars. If you read Paul Ekman's studies on human emotion and why people lie, you might be more understanding.
But I would think that if Scott Wolter lied about having a nonexistent degree and using that on his list of credentials he would have been fired/ let go, or even had fraud charges pressed against him. As none of these things have happened, one would assume that it is just a large misunderstanding perpetuated by those who listed his biography on the internet. As you would see on the websites you listed, the information gathered for his biography was gathered from other websites. And states “This profile was last updated on 12/29/12 and contains information from public web pages and contributions from the ZoomInfo community. Is this you? Claim your profile." Convenient that the information on the zoomInfo website was changed and updated less than a month before this article was published. Furthermore, His Linkedin account does not list the supposed false degree you were speaking of, which would also lead one to believe that he did not list this falsehood on any of his biographies that are currently on public websites. That whoever was perpetuating this lie did so without doing their research and unknowing repeated information he stated in an article, recounting the time he was honored by his mentors, which would make his statement on THIS website valid. That it was just a misunderstanding by people who failed to do responsible journalism. www.linkedin.com/pub/scott-wolter/11/45/77b
In conclusion, none of Mr. Wolter's Books and websites indicates this supposed falsehood, and they are not listed on the publisher’s pages, where he is listed as an author. So it would appear whoever took this "Falsehood" that Mr. Wolter mentioned in some article years ago, took it out of context, and failed to do proper investigative journalism, which would put the blame on the journalist not Mr. Scott Wolter. Who clearly has not listed this “falsehood” on his personal credentials that can be found on other websites, that he in fact is a part of. Which would make this article, and it’s argument invalid.

Jason Colavito link

4/17/2013 12:05:04 pm

If you read Mr. Wolter's comments on this blog post, Mr. Wolter confirmed and admitted to the deception, so it is not a question of other people making claims.

Rob

4/25/2013 07:05:15 pm

What's funny is I know for a fact I am richer than you, so how about I buy out this website to shut you up. More funny is I'm not kidding. And if i get a stupid comment from you....well say goodnight

Lexi T

4/17/2013 01:46:22 pm

I did read his remarks including this "Was it officially recognized by the University? No. They gave it to me as I have always presented it to be, a sympathy degree. At the time I was quite proud and when I told my then supervisors at my new job at Twin City Testing, they published the story in the company newsletter and added it to my resume’. Not long ago, the question was asked by the State licensing board if it was an official degree and I said no. Because I didn’t want my professors who now in their eighties to have to answer questions about this, I removed it from my resume’". I believe he also said your information was partially correct, and partially wrong. So, again I restate my previous response. And add that though your publications and articles are interesting. It is ironic that you base all of your work on discrediting Pseudoscience and the people who make money off of it, when you in fact make money writing articles and books trying to disprove there theories. Well, this was enlightening. I will not be responding further as I have better things to do, than argue the arrogance of someone who thinks themselves all knowing. I base my previous comments and this one on facts, something this article was clearly not written with. Which is also ironic, because you are trying to disprove others theories with facts, yet you couldn't obtain actual facts for this blog post, and the person it was written about, even had to point that out. I wish you the best of luck in all your endeavors!

Jason Colavito link

4/17/2013 01:54:47 pm

Scott Wolter did not challenge any of the facts in this blog post. They are all documented. I did not accuse him of anything in the blog post. I only pointed out the lack of documentation.

I do not make money off of this blog, nor does Skeptic pay for articles. I have a real job I do during the day. This is just a hobby. If I'm lucky, it makes enough money to keep the site running without extra cash infusions.

Karilyne Reid

4/18/2013 07:37:26 am

Hi Everyone - Can't help but weigh in on this - At the end of the day, talent and effort are what garners the respect and interest from others when you have the courage to put yourself out there. Scott Wolter puts himself out there with what he discovers/believes, and you've got to give him credit for that. Degrees are great for those who have the educational opportunity, but 27yrs as a military/Gov analyst have taught me that they aren't the only basis for respecting someone else's ideas. I admire Scott's show because it gives me something new to think about. I'm free to come to my own conclusions. He seems like a good guy to me, and he's got the guts to put himself out there.

TheBeast

4/23/2013 05:20:50 pm

Well I ha e read half of this blog and all I see are may Sayers and critics. What I haven't seen is anything that says you (Jason) are worth taking seriously. All you do is bash Scott over a "honorary degree" story. You are the true list here. Stick to your fiction writing and keep your "hating" to yourself. You are not a shining light of truth or a seeker of real enlightenment. So what have you done to contribute? I don't care if Scott lies about his entire life as long as he tried to reveal a truth that "IS" out there.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/24/2013 10:55:18 am

One of the valuable -- very real -- contributions made by Scott Wolter's show is simply raising possibilities for further investigation by interested scholars ... If they do or do not follow up depends upon their inclinations and available funding ... What is unfortunate is a knee-jerk response of, "Couldn't be so ...," or "Who the heck does Scott Wolter think HE is ... ???," or simply, "Oh YEAH ... ???" ...

CFC

4/26/2013 01:07:35 am

Mr. Wolter refuses to put his claims to the test in a manner that can be reviewed and verified by the scientific community. He doesn't have evidence! He has a marketing strategy to promote his claims on this silly program, where there is no fact checking and entertainment is the name of the game.

This claim of a "non- existent degree" from the University of Minnesota Duluth, and faking of information on his resume has earned him the reputation of being a JOKE and an EMBARASSMENT to his profession.

Any credibility he had as a geologist is out the window. His new career = pseudoscience entertainer.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/26/2013 01:43:31 am

You seem to be confused ... The history channel stuff is a TV SHOW ...
Lighten up ...

Maureen G. O'Brien

5/2/2013 03:55:07 am

Mr. Wolter is absolutely right about one thing - nearly everything we have been taught about History in America is a LIE. I mean really, how many people in the U.S. believe JFK assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald? What about the Nazi Project Paperclip scientists, CIA founders and MK-Ultra 'doctors'? At the very least, I am surprised that the Disney-owned History Channel would even explore this material, and as we all should know, the Disney Corporation is just the fuzzy, cute arm of the Military/Industrial Complex - Walt and the Nazi Werner Von Braun were buddies - but he was just taking orders.....

Rev. Phil Gotsch

5/2/2013 04:03:44 am

Walt Disney WAS a space alien ... Everybody knows that ... How else to explain his amazing advances in animation technology ... ???

J Rester

5/5/2013 04:36:10 pm

I'm not a huge fan of the show. I barely watch tv because it isn't a reliable source for anything. I will say this, however: The truth is often stranger than fiction, and you should always consider the message separately from the messenger. We tend to demonize a messenger who tells us bad news or something that makes us uncomfortable.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

5/5/2013 04:41:31 pm

ONE lesson of history is that the currently fashionable accepted VERSION of "history" ISN'T necessarily entirely true and correct ...

That DOESN'T mean that the fringe versions are true and correct EITHER, but it DOES mean that we ought not necessarily REJECT new ideas, interpretations, and re-examined possibilities flatly *out*of*hand* ...

Gary link

5/6/2013 12:08:12 am

Ugh. I get so tired of hearing this "fake credentials" crap. It's like ordination through the Universal Life Church. "But it's not a real ordination, so you can't preach." It's like telling Jebus that he couldn't spread the Word of God because he wasn't a Jewish high priest with lots of gold swag.

But sure, not everyone's bitching about the degree. Many are bitching about the "facts" not holding up. I personally feel that many of his conclusions are far more satisfactory on a sensible level than the stale, crusty accepted theories being passed around the academic community like lingering farts.

On a side note, Mr. Wolter: During your work with various artifacts you've come across the Spirit Pond runestones. Whether they are accepted as genuine or hoax is irrelevant. I can assure you that dozens more were found up here in midcoast Maine by the old timers. As the story goes there was a hell of a storm back in '76 or '77 that played hell on the beaches of Acadia National Park. After the storm went out to sea the ribs of a ship were revealed. Upon further examination locals found a host of strange objects that had been buried in the sand, one of which was a fragment of smooth stone with runes carved into it.

Furthermore, the locals of Somes Sound reported the same thing: strange objects were exposed after being buried for hundreds of years. Lots of Indian arrowheads, shell mounds, etc. But one old man said that he found a piece of "drift wood that looked like part of a ship." This is the same body of water that Frederick J. Pohl mentioned in his book re: Keel Cape and Thorvald Ericsson.

If you decide to again track down the Vikings in 2014, Maine is a very obvious place to start.

Take care.

Gary

Americanegro

9/4/2016 03:17:27 am

Dude, his "honorary degree" was LITERALLY a cup of coffee, and he lied about it until he got caught. I personally am of the opinion that even the cup of coffee story is one of Wolter's many LIES. He says he pulled it off the resume because he didn't want his professors to be bothered. That's BS. The licensing board asked him about it, probably in the "hey, got any proof of that?" kind of way.

Ge Ki

9/6/2016 03:29:45 am

Right on, Americanegro. Gary, lying is bad. Honesty is the life blood of scholarship. Anyone can make sh1t up, so we have be able to trust each other. Scott Wolter has produced so much BS that he has forfeited any right to complain when people don't believe him.

obwan link

5/15/2013 03:56:21 pm

I may be a little late to jump into the fray - but I just finished Scott's book "Hooked X", and saw his shows on H2. He does a great job in his research, and one needs an open mind to understand the issues. C'mon folks - it's TV, and actually pretty interesting stuff. Would you rather watch Bigfoot or Swamp People? It's what ever you find interesting and entertaining, regardless of his credentials.
I'll have to agree with most of the opinions here that support Scott in his passion to follow the past, with out bashing one's feelings or character.
Jason, you do have an interesting blog going - and for Tara, I think you and Ann Coulter should go head-to-head on CNN. You certainly appear well educated and have quite a vocabulary, so you would most likely win the debate.

CFC

5/18/2013 12:25:57 pm

I would say Swamp People and Big Foot are a cut above watching someone who has faked his credentials and claims he has authenticated an artifact using methods that aren’t recognized or supported by the scientific community. At least with those programs you know you are watching nonsense.

Good scientific investigation requires a dispassionate and unbiased approach to research. He does neither and is just an enthusiastic showman who is misleading the public.

I'm relieved to know that when people go looking for information about Wolter and America Unearthed, they will land on Jason's site and see that the truth has been unearthed about his phony baloney degree.

Jason Stern

6/3/2013 02:29:16 pm

all you people who are just sitting at home behind your computer terminal bashing what someone else s out there working on can go fuck themselves. he maybe right, he may be wrong, but at least he is out there using his brain to try to understand what none of us know on this rock. I may not agree with all his theories myself, but what is certain is we dont have the whole picture that is why there theories. so if you dont agree or think he is wrong get of your ass and go out there and make some of your own!!!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

6/3/2013 03:18:34 pm

"Bashing" certainly is one of the most frequent favorite uses of the inter-net, isn't it ... ???

Jason Stern

6/4/2013 10:09:52 am

its a way to make themselves feel better about their own crappy life's in fact there probably mainly jealous that someone has the attention their lacing so they just plain hate instead of having a open mind.
I have talked to Scott, i live in the same area as he does, and even if he did make his credentials up (which in my opinion hasn't been proven ) it doesn't change the facts about his view points, it merely slows down the progress and opens the door for other to get involved.

Jason Colavito link

6/4/2013 10:12:40 am

Scott Wolter's degree makes no difference to whether his claims are true. I have an entire book exploring why his claims aren't true based on the facts, not his degree or lack thereof.

And if I am "jealous" of Wolter's attention for his views because I criticize his claims, does that make Wolter "jealous" of the mainstream archaeologists and historians whose work he has devoted his life to attacking?

Americanegro

9/4/2016 03:21:28 am

Jason Stern, you wrote:

"I have talked to Scott, i live in the same area as he does, and even if he did make his credentials up (which in my opinion hasn't been proven )"

Oh, Jason, so developmentally challenged. Was our Scott lying about his credentials or lying about lying about his credentials?

It has to be AT LEAST one or the other, and I think it's BOTH, because I think the coffee story is completely made up.

Louis Sheffield

1/26/2015 02:27:16 am

I know this. I have two boys who watch regularly. And now they are always picking rocks up and examining them wherever they can. One wants to be a Geologist and ask for a book on geology for Christmas rather than a video game. If his theories aren't correct then there's no more harm than him learning that Henry Ford invented the automobile. But at least they're interested in something produ time. Thank you Scott Wolter.

Robert Goodyear

1/26/2015 06:04:59 am

Louise Shitfield,

Henry Ford did not invent the automobile.
No schools are teaching children that he did.

Perhaps in 1920, when you attended grammar school, you THOUGHT that's what the teacher said.

Wolter has not proven ONE of his theories..

Go back to school and keep sucking your thumb.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

6/4/2013 12:26:57 pm

Nonsense ...

Scott Wolter certainly has NOT "devoted his life to attacking the work of mainstream archaeologists and historians" ...

I have known Scott as a professional colleague and a personal friend for 25 years and he has had, and continues to enjoy, a rich and full and varied life quite separate from the History Channel shows ...

I know him to be smart and energetic and VERY active in aspects of life that include his family, his work as a concrete specialist, his frequent leadership in the professional geology community, his semi-pro sports involvement, etc., etc. ... He is VERY generous with his personal and professional support to his MANY friends and colleagues ...

(You, OTOH, Jason, HAVE "devoted your life" to picking nits, to debunking, to attacking others' work, etc. ... "Pot," meet "Kettle" ...)

Geeez, mawn ... Lighten up ...

Jason Colavito link

6/4/2013 12:48:45 pm

That was sort of the point of my hyperbole. But Wolter has spent more time on alternative history over the years than I have, though. He's been at it since 2001; I've done this on occasion from 2001 but in earnest only after 2010.

For an alleged man of God, you don't act very much in the spirit of Matt. 7:12 or seem much troubled that alternative historians have precious little respect for Proverbs 12:24, Zecharia 8:16, Ephesians 4:25, etc. The God you claim to work for makes quite clear that lies and untruths are abominations. Therefore, whatsoever you think of my work, must you not agree that my efforts to present what I believe to be the truth is fully in keeping with the Biblical idea that one must do what is right, as in 2 Corinthians 8:21?

Kathryn Zambito

1/18/2015 01:27:13 pm

Jason

You are tooo much. Scrolling through your egotistical, know it all comments I'm finally sickened by your arrogant response to the Reverend. Sure, God doesn't like lying, but he does love repentance and gives salvation to those who do. Scott ADMITTED the TRUTH for all of us to see! What more do YOU NEED? I now realize that it's ATTENTION therefore I'm OUT. I won't give your blog one more minute of WASTED TIME. Really...should ANYONE?

Jason Stern

6/8/2013 02:16:01 pm

so which Jason you talking to. cause You do realize I'm not A
Agreeing with anyone nor am I disagreeing with anyone, im simply saying stop all the negativity and give him a chance everyone has the right to their opinion and in return the counter side has the right to their rebuttal. but nobody has the right to simply hate, ridicule, or bash anyone's character. instead go out and proof your point!!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

6/4/2013 01:44:58 pm

LOL ... Be careful ... !!! As it is written, "Patriotism and piety are the last refuge of a scoundrel ..."

But, seriously ... Don't try to sling Bible verses at me. It doesn't help your cause.

But, no. Scott Wolter's "History Channel" adventures are only recent.

His involvement with the Kensington Rune Stone investigations began only when others contacted and contracted HIM. Before that, he had never even heard of it.

I have NO trouble at all with any interested even-handed persons offering well-reasoned and informed critiques of anyone's WORK, including that of my friend and colleague. But going BEYOND that honest and straightforward approach to engage in character assassination and heaping personal scorn ... is simply NOT a good thing. THAT is my point.

Jason Colavito link

6/4/2013 01:55:45 pm

I'm not sure I follow you. So alternative historians like Wolter get to advocate an extreme position, but critics must be "even-handed"?

And what is a character assassination about the few paragraphs I wrote months ago that reported--without drawing a conclusion--that no evidence existed for the claimed degree? Surely that was relevant for judging Wolter's credibility.

In the 100,000 words I wrote about America Unearthed and its ancillary claims, I have kept Scott Wolter as a human being out of it except where he himself injected himself into the claim through accusations of an anti-Wolter conspiracy.

How, pray tell, is one to "even-handedly" evaluate a claim without recourse to discussing the claimant when the claimant insists that the claim is that mainstream science is in a conspiracy against him?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

6/4/2013 02:25:15 pm

In my experience, genuine scholarship worthy of that name MUST be even-handed and thoughtful and careful -- NOT "personal" ...

The ONLY serious question about the "alternative history" stuff -- (whether from the History Channel shows, "Holocaust deniers," "Clovis FIRST" zealots, "Fundamentalist" creationists, atheist materialists, Velikovsky devotees, hardcore Marxists, or ANYONE) -- is ... (1) data, and, (2) plausible interpretations ...

THAT is my point ...

Jason Colavito link

6/4/2013 02:27:10 pm

Thank you for agreeing that Scott Wolter's work is not scholarship since it is not even-handed, not careful, and is littered with personal attacks against alleged conspirators against him. With that, I think this discussion has come to a fruitful close.

Rev. Phi Gotsch

6/4/2013 02:32:28 pm

LOL ... Nice try, but "no cigar" ...

I have agreed to no such characterization of Scott Wolter's work ...

No ... Scott's work is NOT "littered with personal attacks against alleged conspirators against him" ... (The fact that YOU make such an over-the-top inflammatory comment does indicate some things about YOUR inclinations, however ...)

Jason Colavito link

6/4/2013 02:35:45 pm

Did you watch his show? He accused academics and historians of conspiracies to suppress the truth at least a dozen times across 13 episodes, accused the U.S. government and the Minnesota government of conspiracies, cited a vague "bullshit" conspiracy by an unnamed "these people" to prevent him from investigating, and offered specific character attacks against Scott Dawson.

I'm not offering an inflammatory comment; I am simply stating a fair reading of specific claims Wolter made on America Unearthed.

You're welcome to deny these claims exist, but they're on video.

terry the censor

6/4/2013 02:51:16 pm

Rev, please, it's clear you are demanding a double standard. You scrutinise Jason for his evidence, his arguments, even his tone, simply everything -- and that's fine in itself. But you don't apply this same standard to Mr. Wolter.

You have been entirely disingenuous in your defence of Mr. Wolter and your attacks on Jason.

And I'm not being personal, I'm just describing what I see.

terry "the censor" brown
(no letters behind my name -- not even fabricated ones)

Rev. Phil Gotsch

6/4/2013 02:44:26 pm

Yes, I watched the episodes ... They're TV shows ... !!! Scott Wolter did not script or direct or produce them ... Lighten up ...

Again ... One may very well take issue with any or all of the claims or conclusions Scott encounters or draws or states ...

But the personal scorn and attacks toward Scott PERSONALLY are unhelpful in EVALUATING the claims and conclusions and are simply unwarranted IMHO ...

Jason Colavito link

6/4/2013 02:51:22 pm

Did I disagree with you on that? I evaluated his claims based on evidence, but in places he forced himself into the narrative by making himself the story, which meant that I had to evaluate him as part of the evidence. My reviews are all online, so you can see clearly how that worked.

So, you're saying that Scott Wolter is not responsible for the words that came out of his mouth? How about when he went on the radio last month to repeat the claims? Was he responsible then for his claims about conspiracies directed against him and the truth by sinister forces in academia?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

6/4/2013 04:25:38 pm

I'm saying what I said ...

The History Channel TV shows ... are TV shows ...
Scott Wolter did NOT script, direct, and produce them ...

Do I agree with the claims made and conclusions drawn and reported in those TV shows ... ??? Mostly, no ...

But I DO AGREE that there IS an *accepted*version* of "history" that is too often received UN-critically and defended NOT simply purely on basis of "evidence" and "facts" but on basis of ... well ... something else (as per our earlier exchanges about the DECADES-long off-hand airy dismissal of ANY dated sites earlier than "Clovis" simply BECAUSE everybody already KNEW that there WERE no sites earlier than "Clovis" ...

But, again ... I am NOT interested in WHO makes particular claims, but I am interested in the claims THEMSELVES (think: "cold fusion;" space alien UFOs; young Earth Creationism; Marxist interpretations of history; Julian Assange's reported sexual predilections; Barack Obama's close direction of IRS handling of Tea Party organizations; NRA ideas about how to reduce gun violence in America; dietary cannibalism among the Aztecs; etc., etc. ...)

I'm "into" the message -- not the messenger ...

Magnus from Sweden

6/21/2013 11:22:04 am

Im totally astounded after watching the episode about Wollters "runestone" claims... Obviously he will cling to his "theories" and see conspiracies wherever there are contradicting facts. So far, nothing strange.

Much more scary: What does this say about America? Not only is it the land of brave and free - now its also the cradle of civilization? Is this where America is at? This is truly a folkeloric expression of the frightening self-centerd arrogance of an empire.

What's next? Jesus was actually from Texas?

CFC

6/24/2013 05:43:14 am

Magnus
Mr. Wolter and Committee Films with the support of H2 and History Channel are making a laughing stock of America with this ridiculous program. There are many who follow this blog who agree with your assessment. Jason Colavito is doing a great job of outing this nonsense.

James

6/24/2013 11:03:59 am

Jason.
Please forgive me for accusing you of not writing about certain subjects. At the time I wrote my post, I had not looked at the body of work you have done. You certainly have an impressive array of articles, books, etc. I didn't realize that you were an author of such note. Through my cursory examination of your writings and more specifically your affiliations with Skeptic magazine, I understand. My claim that you are a professional debunker has been confirmed. Please understand that I don't mean that in a pejorative manner, just that further conversation with you would be pointless. I have had numerous interactions via message boards, blogs, email, etc. with good people who both claim to represent the "truth" concerning what we could loosely call, "alternative ideas". You could also say esoteric, new age, whatever. You get the idea. You see, I'm not a scholar but I have always had a burning desire to know where we (humans) came from. I majored in history at Tulsa U. and minored in philosophy specifically because the subjects of human origin and the centuries old philosophical debate concerning creationism, God, and related subjects fascinated me. Since at the time, I was a died in the wool atheist, I primarily studied those topics which would further my belief that God was simply a creation of ancient man in response to his woefully inadequate understanding of the natural world. Darwinism, relativism, humanism, and astro-physics and the like became MY religion. However, not wanting to waste your time, I will just say that eventually my studies, particularly in regards to the latest findings in quantum physics, led me to believe that much of what I was taught in high school and university setting was incomplete, inaccurate, and perhaps intentionally manipulated to support a certain world view. It seems to me that any finds that might, even in the most minute manner, lend credence to anything "biblical", is covered up or obfuscated. There is a GREAT body of evidence that supports certain dogmas promulgated by "New Agers". There is also a ton of BS promoted by the same people.
I'm just an average citizen. I run restaurants for a living. I think what a lot of us "regular" people want is just an honest, frank, discussion about these topics. We would LOVE to see intelligent people who have studied these issues try and get to the truth WITHOUT an agenda! You can pontificate all you want, but you are no different than Wolters. IN my opinion, you both have a preconceived set of notions and ideas about history, archeology, the origins of man and the universe, etc. and you only put forth as "facts" those ideas which support your paradigm. On the other hand, you (and he) summarily dismiss any evidence as hoaxed, contrived, or misidentified that seems to suggest that your paradigm might be flawed. As with most things I would say that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. There is an awful lot of evidence that the currently accepted theories surrounding clovis, stone age man arising somewhere between 12,000 and 25,000 years ago in the New World is at best, incomplete. There IS evidence (primarily in the form of newspaper articles) that many discoveries of anomalous bones, metalworks, earthen and stone mounds, were suppressed by SOMEONE. I don't know who the hell did it, but if these numerous articles are to be believed (and I don't know why they shouldn't be), there is an ongoing conspiracy to hide the complete truth. These notions could easily be put to bed. The Smithsonian should open their archives, writings, journals, etc. to an independent group of researchers. The data should be made public. Did you know that they will not respond to a Freedom of Information request? They claim that they will comply in the "spirit of the FIA, but when pressed, they will NOT release the data concerning anamolous findings. http://www.southmilwaukeenow.com/blogs/communityblogs/187467521.html

What are they hiding?

In the words of Vine Deloria, a Native American author and professor of law:

"Modern day archaeology and anthropology have nearly sealed the door on our imaginations, broadly interpreting the North American past as devoid of anything unusual in the way of great cultures characterized by a people of unusual demeanor. The great interloper of ancient burial grounds, the nineteenth century Smithsonian Institution, created a one-way portal, through which uncounted bones have been spirited. This door and the contents of its vault are virtually sealed off to anyone, but government officials. Among these bones may lay answers not even sought by these officials concerning the deep past."

I don't expect that you will be "leading the charge" to force the Smithsonian and other museums that fall under the watchful eye of the Federal Government, but I would caution you, from a personal, ethical, moralistic view, to not paint yourself as a harbinger of the truth while at the same time ignoring the enormous body of evi

Jason Colavito link

6/24/2013 12:09:41 pm

I must confess that I am a bit confused. If I understand you correctly, you're asking for a "frank" discussion of issues, but you seem to feel that only when one rejects the mainstream view is a person being "frank" and fair. What if my frank and unbiased view is that alterantive claims don't hold water? If you read the excerpt of my "Cult of Alien Gods" in the Books section of my website, you'll see that I do not approach this material with the intent to oppose any new idea; instead, I look to explore evidence.

The Clovis-first idea emerged in the 1940s and is no longer considered the best explanation; that's been the case for almost 20 years. I've found that many who favor "alternative" history think academic scholarship stopped with their high school textbooks and has never changed a lick since. Science grows through accretion, and our ideas about the past change over time. What textbooks presented as fact in 1960 or 1980 (as all textbooks present "facts") represented the consensus of those eras, but today's scholars have more facts and information and thus a different understanding.

The link you provided offers no proof of a Smithsonian conspiracy, only secondhand allegations. As someone who has worked in museums (including government museums) in the past, I can tell you that museologists are not conspiring to hide Old World artifacts or giant skeletons.

Ask yourself this: Why are you willing to trust Victorian journalists, who fabricated and lied with abandon, but not today's historians and archaeologists? The answer will tell you much about current attitudes about education and social class, but not much about archaeology.

Mark

7/6/2013 06:34:37 pm

Jason,

After reading this blog I am shocked you maintain that you are a Amazon.com bestseller. Wow! Although I can agree with some of your comments in response to Scott Wolter's work and the TV program he is associated with after I read that "accomplishment" in your bio I can honestly say that everything you have written thus far falls flat.

Anyone with a degree in their chosen field knows that the true learning begins once they question the already predetermined "history" that is force fed by academia. Jason, I would encourage you to explore these issues on your own instead of regurgitating the same old argument that Scott Wolter lied about having an honourary degree.

The world needs it's skeptics, whether that be Scott Wolter questioning America's history or yourself Jason quesioning the new hypothesis being brought forward. Ultimately each viewer/reader will decide on their own but it appears to this reader that you lack an open mind and are more interested in the status quo then pushing new schools of thought in the area of history. It is for this reason that you will never standout as a "best selling author". It is for this reason that you will not be taken seriously...good luck.

Jason Colavito link

7/6/2013 11:27:56 pm

I don't say that, and I specified that it is my *book* that was an Amazon.com bestseller: "His Critical Companion to Ancient Aliens became an Amazon.com bestseller in the archaeology category in 2012." That, even if you don't like it, is a fact. It was on the list. Therefore you did not just "read" that; and even if you had, "bestseller" is a relative, not absolute, descriptor; some New York Times bestsellers, depending on category and date, have sold only a few thousand copies at the time of being so honored.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/7/2013 02:46:20 am

Yup ... Books like "Chariots of the Gods" and "Gold of the Gods" and novels by Jackie Collins have sold multiple MILLIONS of copies and gone through many reprints ...

Jason Colavito link

7/7/2013 03:21:11 am

Were popular opinion the measure of truth, we would be living in a very different world. What exactly is the purpose of chiming in to chide me for a claim that I am not making?

CFC

7/7/2013 09:02:02 am

Mark -
Your comment...
"I would encourage you to explore these issues on your own instead of regurgitating the same old argument that Scott Wolter lied about having an honourary degree" ...
reveals that you have not bothered to follow the thoughtful, professional and well-researched reviews that Jason has completed on each of the America Unearthed episodes. His book, Unearthing the Truth expands further on the blog reviews and provides some interesting background information about the creation of this program. I would recommend it highly.
This blog is being followed by many who are sickened by the dishonest programs on H2 and the promotion of unqualified individuals like Scott Wolter.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/7/2013 10:15:01 am

The H2 shows certainly have *sparked* some interesting conversations and thoughts about some of these history questions ...

Is there a problem with that ... ???

Can such questions be raised and discussed rationally on basis of the evidence rather than by trying to TRASH someone who is *out*there* mucking around in some neglected places ... ???

terry the censor

7/7/2013 06:24:29 pm

@Rev. Phil

> Can such questions be raised and discussed rationally on basis of the evidence rather than by trying to TRASH someone

Jason has extensively documented, beyond any doubt, that Wolter's assertions are not based on evidence and that they are not well-reasoned. For you to describe fact-checking as TRASHing is plain dishonesty.

You have abandoned facts and reason for the pretense of being persecuted.

Shame.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/7/2013 03:38:24 am

I "chimed in" on a discussion re: what it means that a book is described or designated as a "best seller" ... Is that a problem ... ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/8/2013 01:36:38 am

Rational straight-forward investigation and discussion of these interesting questions is a different thing than TRASHING a person and/or his/her background and intellect and motives, etc. ...

Jason Colavito link

7/8/2013 03:20:19 am

It's not trashing someone to point out a fabricated credential, unless you think that anyone should be allowed to claim non-existent degrees. You might also note that this post, a fact-based post which Wolter himself admitted was correct, is the only time of discussed Wolter's personal life outside of his claims, except where he has himself inserted his credentials or personal life into his claims.

terry the censor

7/8/2013 08:31:19 pm

@Rev. Phil Gotsch

As Jason just reiterated, Wolter made a claim about his credentials and Jason fact-checked them. Wolter is the one who put his credentials "in play." But, somehow, Wolter's false statement about his degree escapes your scrutiny; nowhere on this page have you engaged Wolter's false claim. Instead, you blame critics for discussing Wolter's false claims about his credentials.

So, Reverend, I ask you to address directly Wolter's false claim about his credentials.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/11/2013 01:43:41 pm

Again ... The issue re: the H2 channel TV shows OUGHT to be about their content, the claims, the conclusions ... NOT the host ...

Jason Colavito link

7/11/2013 01:51:40 pm

Thank you, Captain Obvious. That would be why I carefully reviewed all of the programs based on their facts. But you don't seem to think that the broader story of alternative history as a movement, and one that simultaneously appropriates and denigrates academia, is of any interest. This single and singular post reported another fact, which, as I have said, does not impact the claims made on TV but is nevertheless part of the ongoing story of alternative history and its penchant for aping the prestige of academia: See David Childress's claims about being an archaeologist, or Sean David Morton's purchased "Ph.D.-equivalency" degree. While none of these borrowed trappings impact the specific claims made, they contribute to how the audience perceives the reliability and trustworthiness of the individuals. After all, "Reverend," you ask us to afford you an adjective prefixed to your praenomen because that word means something to you. When alternative history speculators appropriate academic honors, they clothe their ideas in borrowed credibility, a story all the more astounding since to the man they believe the academics they ape are in conspiracies to suppress the truth.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/11/2013 02:07:12 pm

Well ... I don't buy into ANY conspiracy theories or claims ...

But I do agree that MANY "academic" persons and university departments and professional organizations ARE hidebound and dogmatic in a very unhelpfully conservative embrace of received dogma ... Again, I point to the (FINALLY abandoned) American archaeological dogma that "The Clovis Date" is THE "earliest" -- BY DEFINITION ...

Jason Colavito link

7/11/2013 11:27:44 pm

Because the thirty or so years Clovis-first was en vogue was an excruciatingly long time? The idea came to prominence in the 1960s and was on its way out by the 1990s. By comparison, the Piltdown Man hoax lasted forty years.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/12/2013 07:23:57 am

The "Clovis Date" (New Mexico) and The "Piltdown Hoax" (England) have NOTHING in common ...

The "Clovis Date" was VERY well established and is not in doubt ...

So ... I have no idea what sort of "red herring" you're dragging into this discussion ...

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 07:30:41 am

It's you who doesn't understand. The existence of the Clovis culture is not in doubt; it's date is well established. The CLAIM that Clovis was the FIRST culture in America is what had a good run in the twentieth century before giving way to new evidence. The existence of the Clovis culture does NOT imply that it was necessarily the first. There is no red herring; I was trying to show that incorrect ideas can have a remarkably long life before falling to better evidence. You're the one who keeps harping on the idea that the way textbooks were written when you were in high school is somehow a calcified dogma that has always been and will always be. That kind of textual inerrancy belongs only to the most literal branches of Bible study.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/12/2013 10:26:18 am

Patiently ... for the several-teenth time ...

For a few DECADES, whenever an archaeologist found and published any carbon date for a site that was OLDER than "Clovis" ... the ROUTINE knee-jerk rejection of that date was put forward NOT on basis that the excavation was improperly done or that the lab techniques were obviously sloppy or any such thing ... but rather that everyone already KNOWS that The "Clovis Date" is THE oldest, so that any OLDER date is simply WRONG ... by DEFINITION ...

See ... one of my minor areas of study was anthropology, specializing in North American archaeology ... I studied under a guy who was at that time widely regarded as one of the DEANS of central North American archaeology ... I KNOW where of I speak ... I have "kept up" through the years ...

As I already indicated in a previous post, of course I do NOT accept much of any of the claims and conclusions of the H2 TV shows hosted by my good friend and colleague, Scott Wolter ... They're TV SHOWS ... However ... Scott Wolter's work on the Kensington Rune Stone is VERY good and holds up VERY well ... THAT investigation took a couple of years of concerted study ...

I do not appreciate having his character or training or work or intellect simply TRASHED ...

And, again, I do KNOW that in fact there ARE some hidebound traditionalist notions and claims about North American history that are definitely worth challenging ... and the H2 TV shows raise some questions, albeit awkwardly ...

THAT is my point ...

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 10:35:20 am

Mr. Wolter has worked with A+E Networks to try to use the legal system to silence me. This is not scientific debate. I'm not inclined to see him as sweetness and light in light of these actions.

Americanegro

9/4/2016 01:29:35 pm

"For a few DECADES, whenever an archaeologist found and published any carbon date for a site that was OLDER than "Clovis" ... the ROUTINE knee-jerk rejection of that date was put forward NOT on basis that the excavation was improperly done or that the lab techniques were obviously sloppy or any such thing ... but rather that everyone already KNOWS that The "Clovis Date" is THE oldest, so that any OLDER date is simply WRONG ... by DEFINITION ..."

Rev. Phil: NAME ONE SPECIFIC TIME THAT HAPPENED. I suspect you can't.

Americanegro

9/4/2016 01:27:26 pm

The Clovis business and the Piltdown man were equally accepted. They have that in common. When I was young, Clovis was a new view, now that I'm older it's been discredited. If Wolter were a proponent of Clovis, he would accuse those who discarded it as "conspiring to commit academic fraud" and being "clowns" and "criminals" as he did with Nielsen and Williams, his erstwhile partners in the runestone work.

Nicholas Lapuerta link

7/12/2013 07:38:10 am

I am quite honestly popping my cherry as I type. The episode I'm watching is attempting to connect the Minoans with copper deposits located in the Great Lakes. It is quite a farce. I'd rather expose myself to gale-force winds equipped with sharp debris than continue the show. It is absolutely a worse show than ancient aliens, which is an accomplishment I incorrectly believed was not an obchievable feat. Nevertheless, I will continue watching in the name is debunking, so as to equip myself with fodder with which I can dispute the true believers. With this knowledge I will achieve recognition shared by other great debunkers, such as snopes, or popular mechanics when they blew away the highly dubious documentary Loose Change. The time for being facetious is over. GG

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 07:40:25 am

Please feel free to read my debunking reviews of each episode (located in the "America Unearthed" tab or by searching for episode names in my site's search box), and if you are so inclined, I have a book called "Unearthing the Truth" (print and eBook) to read even more about this. You can find the book under the "Books" tab above.

CFC

7/12/2013 11:38:20 am

Phil,

#1) Mr. Wolter's work on the Kensington Rune Stone is not "very good" and does not hold up "very well" as you have stated. He claims to have authenticated an artifact and yet has not followed proper scientific procedures to support this claim. His work is self published (company report) and is not in a format that can be peer reviewed. His claims are therefore of no value and are not recognized by the scientific community.

#2) Terry the Censor on 7/9 asked you to address directly Wolter's false claim about his credentials. Can you respond?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/12/2013 12:44:21 pm

On the contrary, Scott developed and VERY thoroughly followed several lines of evidence, all of which indicate (do not PROVE, but strongly indicate) that The Kensington Rune Stone DOES date from 1362 ...

Anyone who wishes to contest those findings is free to do so on basis of evidence ... This far I have not seen any such ...

terry the censor

8/6/2013 09:31:49 am

Rev Phil, you've been asked twice to address directly Wolter's false claim about his credentials. Again:

Do you recognise that Wolter falsely advertised having an honorary masters degree?

Americanegro

9/4/2016 01:31:10 pm

After the destructive testing Wolter did it should be called the Kensington Ruinstone, amirite ladies?

Nicholas Lapuerta link

7/12/2013 07:50:02 am

That sounds excellent. Keep truckin', so to speak. There are plenty others who share the inquisitive and skeptical spirit. We must constantly imbibe this spirit, so as to accomplish the great feat of proving shows like this that ascribe to the truly untenable arguments perpendicular to historical logic and available evidence.

CFC

7/12/2013 02:27:36 pm

Phil
He does claim he's PROVEN it is an authentic medieval artifact. I'm surprised you're not aware of this. You avoid the points I make about him not following proper protocol.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/12/2013 04:26:10 pm

I have followed his work on the KRS very closely ... I was initially completely skeptical, but having seen the evidence up-close, I am now 99% convinced that it is authentic (not "proven," but supported by several lines of evidence) ...

Bruce Hedquist

7/12/2013 09:05:02 am

Jason, where is my previous post sent an hour ago?

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 09:42:41 am

I don't have one from you from an hour ago on this thread. Was it on a different thread?

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 10:00:41 am

I found it. It's up a long away in the comments.

Bruce Hedquist

7/12/2013 09:08:04 am

Test

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/12/2013 10:30:05 am

Bruce ...
I think it's supposed to be:

Testing ... Testing 1 - 2 - 3 ...

Try that ...

Allison Lane

7/12/2013 10:35:49 am

I just landed here after doing a Google search for "America Unearthed", as H2 appears to be running a marathon of it and my father called me out to ask if I'd ever heard of the guy hosting it. (I hadn't.) The show strikes me as one trying way too hard to reach for sensationalism and conspiracy theories. Reading the synopses for each episode had me laughing in disbelief--especially the one for "Mystery at Roanoke", since one of my instructors at the University of Bristol, Mark Horton, has been conducting archaeological field work there. I have to wonder what he would think of it.

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 10:44:34 am

Be sure to click my "America Unearthed" category above or use my site's search box to search for episode titles. I've written full reviews of the entire series, and you can also find my expanded coverage in my book (print and eBook) "Unearthing the Truth" in the Books section above.

Allison Lane

7/12/2013 11:03:14 am

Actually, I'm beginning to think that might not be a good idea, because I've been going backwards through your blog entries and if I start reading them in earnest I may never leave...

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 11:13:57 am

Well, that's the point, isn't it? I'm going to put up an index to my America Unearthed reviews later tonight in the Articles section above so you can pick and choose what to read more easily!

CFC

7/12/2013 11:40:19 am

Five more copies of your book just arrived today Jason. More orders will be coming soon!!!

JAMDFH

7/12/2013 12:50:55 pm

Who cares about the authenticity of an Honorary Degree? Have you seen some of the douche-bags that have received Honorary Degrees? Is his Geology degree authentic? Is his work in geology authentic? Let's not forget that Carl Sagan was an astonomer and delved into all kinds of topics with a popular TV show--this from a guy who theorized about possible mammals on Venus prior to probes revealing the uninhabitable atmosphere.

The simple fact of the matter is that in history, just like in the present, humans do not sit still for very long and have a natural yearning to find new frontiers. When scholars try to create a fixed history with humans remaining in geological boundaries for whatever reason and never moving around is absurd!

History used to mean 'knowledge by inquiry' as in Natural History and should still be the driving force behind the study of the past. If you disagree with the show or the persons he presents as experts, then offer a different theory!

Nikolai Tesla was one of the strangest persons in American History and was constantly critiqued by all sorts of amateur wannabes, competitors and skeptics to include the US Navy who initially employed hime and then later turned down his remotely controlled boat (look at the drone program now, 100 years behind because of their ignorance! Also, how many sailors in the US Navy would know that?). With all his flaws and seemingly egomaniacal behaviour, you can never take away the fact the he gave the world the AC generator, an idea he claims to have dreamt and built prior to laying out the theory. Edison could have won and the noise would have been unbearable!

One last thing, do you honestly think that none of the occupants of the Yucatan Peninsula ever traveled to the Caribe or the Florida Peninsula? Just sat around and pretended the world ended at the waters edge? Really? Do yourself a favor and start with the book 1491!

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 01:02:44 pm

To whom are these comments directed? Surely not me since you betray no familiarity with the rich respect for the past in my many works, nor even with my reviews of America Unearthed, linked above.

Alan Watts

12/10/2013 11:36:10 am

I know as a little boy you were very disappointed that Americas Stonehenge not being big as the one in England . So since then Jason has been on a personal crusade to debunk everything he does not like on T.V. Sounds like you need to put your childhood disappointments behind and put your " big boy pants on " and deal with it . And remember you have a remote control and change the channel .

Jason Colavito link

12/10/2013 11:39:35 am

Just as you should deal with the fact that facts remain stubbornly true even though I am the one presenting them. And remember, you have a web browser and can surf on over to a website better aligned to your beliefs.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/15/2013 11:34:58 am

Yes ...

A well-meaning but exceedingly naive misunderstanding of "history" is to confuse "history" with "historiography," when they are obviously NOT the same thing ...

Accepted orthodox "historiographies" too often become accepted and promulgated and enshrined as the TRUTH about "history" ...

Bruce Hedquist link

7/12/2013 01:13:39 pm

Jason, can you please change your blog settings so it shows most recent posts first on down to oldest? It is a royal pain to have to scroll down for five minutes on my droid phone!! Plus so hard to type with the frigging "blue drop" cursor bouncing all around!

Bruce Hedquist link

7/12/2013 01:15:43 pm

Jason Colavito link

7/12/2013 01:24:51 pm

Unfortunately, I can't change the settings. Weebly doesn't give me that power. As for the error messages, that's another Weebly bug. Feel free to contact Weebly.com to complain about their buggy blog code.

Ge Ki

7/12/2013 05:27:57 pm

Good news, world! Peer review is obsolete! Scott Wolters and Rev. Phil have appointed new arbiters of truth - themselves!! Who needs hundreds of highly-trained scientists to review Wolters' data, when the world has Wolters and Rev. Phil to do it?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/13/2013 01:39:14 am

Where do you get such nonsense ... ??? Neither Scott Wolter nor I have made any such claim ...

CFC

7/13/2013 02:19:03 am

Phil-
Ge Ki is spot on with the comment.

I wrote:
"He claims to have authenticated an artifact and yet has not followed proper scientific procedures to support this claim. His work is a self published (company report) and is not in a format that can be peer reviewed. His claims are therefore of no value and are not recognized by the scientific community."

It is the scientific community and a proper peer review process that would verify findings and determine proof. In the absence of that, you suggest we are to believe Wolter and you.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/13/2013 12:48:02 pm

Scott Wolter was retained by others to investigate the KRS ... He did so ... Have you read his book (report) on the KRS ... ??? Where in your opinion was his work on the KRS suspect or sloppy or lacking rigor ... ???

Americanegro

9/4/2016 01:36:25 pm

It is 100% true that Wolter has re-defined "peer review" to mean "running by my friends and employees". This avoids frustrating incidents like people pointing out where he's wrong or chiding him for the destructive testing of the Kensington Ruinstone.

gustavo link

7/13/2013 05:48:13 pm

buen dia como hago para escribirle al señor scott wolters ... quisiera escribirle sobre algo que no me parece mera considencia. por favor reponder a mi correo: [email protected]

gracias.

CFC

7/14/2013 06:20:22 am

Phil-
You have inquired before and yes I have read the book with his company report. The book is self-published and his report is not presented in a format that can be peer-reviewed. There is an agreed upon standard/protocol that must be followed when there is a claim of "proof" that hasn't been followed. Check it out with scientists who are trained in this area.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/14/2013 07:47:47 am

Anyone who wishes to check or evaluate or test Scott Wolter's work on the Kensington Rune Stone certainly can do so at any time ... (What in his book would NOT be available to other investigators ... ???)

His book on the KRS is indeed the (lengthy and thorough !!!) study that he was commissioned to carry out ... The book is what it is ... Why is that a problem ... ???

And, yes, I do quite understand how "science" work is done ... My first degree was in biology ... I have done some grad study in paleontology and I have been a member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science for 40 years (biology section) ... I read my copy of "Science" weekly ...

So I know quite well that "science" is a systematic investigation of the natural world, seeking knowledge and understanding ...

"De-bunking," OTOH is a fringe hobby of certain folks who seem mostly to seek and enjoy their own notoriety, for whatever reasons of their own ...

Suzanne

7/13/2013 07:25:13 pm

Golly. Y'all made my head spin.

Elliot Young

7/14/2013 04:12:30 am

@Everyone

Scott Wolter has a general "knowledge base" of geology. Through his prior employer and other experience I'm sure noone can deny this point. This "knowledge base" as far as I know is only used to connect dots that could be connected by any number of tests that anyone can do. It just so happens that Scott Wolter is the one doing them asking specific questions that can be backed up by his or anyone with a general "knowledge base" of geology. The show addresses Scott Wolters questions though.

In the context of which he is conducting these tests makes it specific to his curiosity, not ours. Again, something you nor I havent focused on, not interested in, or just enjoy to watch someone else ask those questions and see them addressed in this form on a tv series.

To this point when anyone else gets a "knowledge base" of this kind, asks those questions, and gets a tv show on the subject you can do it your way.

Until then I will watch the "expert" (expert being used because noone else is asking the right or interesting questions and making an attempt to find out in plain view on TV to stir thought that might lead to other details on the subject right or wrong) Scott Wolter and enjoy his view on the subject.

As long as his "knowledge base" is used to compare and connect dots as I see him using it he is not stepping out if his occupation. He is a human being asking questions most havent addressed, dont care about, not even aware of, or dont have the time or the capacity to be interested in.

Final Though

“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.” ― Aristophanes

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/14/2013 06:11:37 am

Again ... Gotta remember that the H2 TV shows are just that -- they're TV SHOWS ... They're NOT scholarly dissertation/documentaries ...

They're TV SHOWS ... made for entertainment purposes by a corporation funded by paid advertisers seeking to attract as many viewers as possible ...

Jason Colavito link

7/14/2013 06:34:46 am

The "Hour of Power" is also a TV show. I agree with you wholeheartedly that viewers should be wary of any strange claims put forward by TV. You can't trust anything those weird guys in robes say on TV.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/14/2013 07:20:30 am

Ah ... "snark" ...

You ARE some kinda "scholar," I guess, eh ... ???

LOL ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/14/2013 07:24:03 am

Maybe you're just a bit jealous because -- despite your immense international reputation as a best-selling author and brilliant de-bunker -- you don't host a TV show of your own ... ???

Jason Colavito link

7/14/2013 07:31:23 am

There we go with the jealousy again. Amazing the way you're willing to project selfish or nefarious motives onto everyone except for the man who claimed a fake degree, tried to use the legal system to silence me, and makes outrageous claims that even you admit aren't true.

And pointing out the hypocrisy of your position that we should assume TV is fake is not uncalled for. You can't have it both ways.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/14/2013 07:37:51 am

I dunno ... Your comments about these matters quickly become "testy" and snarky and distinctly "personal" rather than measured and scholarly ...

Elliot Young

7/14/2013 04:20:23 am

Please Note:

I'm not defending Scott Wolter because I dont know him as a person. I'm just stating my opinion on facts. I will leave other people to interrogate his past or person.

Typo: *Final Thought

Had to add the typo because I learned here in this blog that my 90 words a minute requires a degree for zero mistakes. I have to look into that.

Elliot Young

7/14/2013 04:20:36 am

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/14/2013 02:10:21 pm

For some reason (which I suspect I fully understand) my "subscription" to this blog has been recently "cancelled" several times ...

What's with that ... ??? Is anybody else having that problem ... ??? Or is my suspicion correct ... ???

Jason Colavito link

7/14/2013 02:13:24 pm

It's probably just a hiccup with the Weebly blog platform. I have no control over blog subscriptions as they are managed by Weebly's automated software. But thanks for the conspiracy theory. Obviously I am seeking revenge on you not by deleting your comments or closing this thread but by messing with your subscription settings so you actually have to visit the page directly. Nefarious!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/14/2013 02:29:26 pm

LOL ... Thanks for the info. ...

I was worried that it was either the NSA coming after me, or alternatively, maybe Eddie Snowden himself ... Who can we trust these days ... ???

Teacher

7/15/2013 12:47:49 am

I am a teacher and would not recommend the History Channel or any of these programs to my students. The programs are not well researched and provide inaccurate information. The fact that Mr. Wolter the host of American Unearthed has misrepresented his creditials is shocking. There should be consequences for this type of misconduct. Shame on those who promote him and these programs.

Ge Ki

7/15/2013 02:03:16 am

I agree with Teacher 100%. Wolters and Rev. Phil have excused Wolters' lying about his so-called "honorary degree," consisting of a "whipped-cream-topped coffee" given to him at an "informal reception". This is utterly laughable. We must teach our children not to accept lies or the people who tell them, or the people who excuse them.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/15/2013 03:06:17 am

I haven't "recommended" anyone watching the H2 "America Unearthed" shows either ...

They display a deep problem inherent in virtually ALL such TV shows and series, i.e., again, as I have noted previously more than once, they ARE "TV shows" that are intentionally put out there for mass audiences in order to induce them to watch the adverts ...

Many of the "Discovery Channel" have similar weaknesses even when the material they present is actually quite solid ...

What I will do consistently is speak up on behalf of my friend and professional colleague, Scott Wolter ...

Those are two entirely separate questions ...

CFC

7/21/2013 05:10:47 pm

You continue to make excuses for Mr. Wolter's misconduct. I wouldn't call that friendship. It's called enabling.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/21/2013 05:22:58 pm

LOL ... Excuse me ... ???

When you misuse and misapply the term, "enabling" ... well ... Let me just say that Scott Wolter doesn't seek or require MY permission for anything he does or says ...

He and I have been friends and professional colleagues, however, for now about 25+ years ... I have no idea who YOU are ...

Americanegro

9/4/2016 01:41:06 pm

How is he your "professional colleague"?? I lean toward the belief that you are Wolter's alter ego.

Bimmerella

9/18/2013 07:43:34 am

THANK YOU TEACHER! I think the fact Wolter lied, or even that he may have been less than honest (which is still less than true, which means lie) SHOULD make any other claim he makes suspect. I'm quite frankly baffled as to why this concept confuses anyone. Tell us please rev Phil, why this shouldnt be a big red flag????

Ricardo Guzman Lopez

7/16/2013 09:05:52 am

I've always enjoyed the episodes of America Unearthed, sometimes I found them a little weird and hard to believe, but I remember... "wait, the social sciences, they are not real sciences" so, those kinda of studies can change in anytime. I actually go to the university to get my historian degree, so from experience I can tell there is no such things as SOCIAL SCIENCES. All of them suffer of what today is named "Physics Envy", the social pseudo-sciences wants to hard be at the level of real sciences they forget their limits, and begin to pull out of the sleeve weird methods to prove themselves. The History, Anthropology, Psychology...etc begin from conjectures, observation, empirism and aphorisms, they still use those methods, so they are valid as the Cryptozoology, Ufology and the other pseudosciences.

Geologuy

7/17/2013 02:54:44 pm

An ad for 'America Unearthed' on the History channel just aired here in Canada, As a geologist for many years, I was intrigued, so I googled Wolter and found this fascinating website discussing all sorts of fraud and inneundos. Thanks Jason for putting this site together. Apparently it is the episode about some burial site in Arizona. I will try to keep an open mind but the ad alone pretty much put me in skeptic mode, largely because it implied that a geologist is qualified to do archeology. There are probably some insulted archeologists out there who haven't found this site yet. It does come on after 'Swamp People', in which English-speaking people need subtitles to explain why they shoot unarmed alligators. Now that's science!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/17/2013 03:00:00 pm

In fact, for now several decades is is not uncommon for an archaeology TEAM to include a geologist ...

Americanegro

9/4/2016 01:43:18 pm

"In fact, for now several decades is is not uncommon for an archaeology TEAM to include a geologist ..."

Yes, they need SOMEONE to carry away the dirt.

Robert

7/18/2013 06:21:55 am

Mr.Wolter:
Saw the DVD about the Rune stones found in Minnesota. It was a very convincing presentation, especially your contribution. Then I stumbled upon your presentation about Giants in Minnesota America unearthed on YouTube. Again, very interesting indeed. BUT I am very disheartened to hear you embellished your credentials by saying you have a degree when it is now hotly disputed that YOU HAVE NOT. So many people out there want to know the truth about this situation...Viking (giants) in America; untruthful statements make the task extremely difficult.

Also, about a piece of equipment one of your people used, a Garrett Ace 100 metal detector. I have been Metal Detecting for eight years now and can tell you that Ace 100 is useless for the work you are engaged in. The GTI 2500 Garrett detector with the Treasure Hound attachment is more to the point and will serve your need for doing deep ground penetration. If you are at all serious about your research I would look into this. You can go to Garrett website or call their main store and get all the information you need.

Again, I am very disheartened.

Robert

Robert

7/20/2013 03:06:23 am

Hello Scott:

I went back to Mr. Cavalito's blog and found your reply to him. I have to admit, it's a long blog and many many comments by many opinionated people; I read only a hand full and selectively at that,
and completely missed your response. I am embarrassed since it was so close to the beginning of his blog. My apologies.

You seem to have many supports as well as detractors.

Mr. Cacalito wrote: "I've never questioned the fact that Scott Wolter is a geologist. This issue only came to my attention because I was unable to verify the existence of the degree after another commenter on my blog asked about Wolter's credentials. "

"The facts are facts, regardless of who discovers them, and the presence or absence of a degree does not change whether the science is sound." Well, at least he gives you that.

I applaud your imagination and research. One hundred years ago people were saying (according to my grandparents) man would never go past 100 miles per hour or they would die and definitely, man would never get to the moon. Imagination, research, and determination showed these opinions to be wrong. In fact,much of our scientific view of the world is now being overturned with NEW break troughs. It appears that "facts" are not as solid as they appear; if anything at all they are more like the weather, subject to subtle changes. When it was first put forward that the Norsemen were in America 1000AD, people were infuriated and made unseemly remarks (much like the remarks on Cavalito's blog) that it was impossible. Even the so called "experts" were wrong. In fact,much of our scientific view of the world is now being overturned with NEW break troughs. It appears that "facts" are not as solid as they appear; if anything at all they are more like the weather, subject to subtle changes. When it was first put forward that the Norsemen were in America 1000AD, people were infuriated and made unseemly remarks (much like the remarks on Cavalito's blog) that it was impossible. Even the so called "experts" were wrong. In my opinion, there are no experts; there only people with varying degrees of expertise. Does "expert" implie that one has come to an end of their learning and there is nothing more to learn? It's just a thought; I'll let you play with that one.

I accept the H2 show for what it is: entertainment. It is NOT intended as as scientific treatise. The show has NO obligation other than to its investors (unfortunately). Still, it fires up the imagination and makes a person wonder about how much we really know about the beginnings of our country.

Robert

7/20/2013 03:06:39 am

Robert

7/20/2013 03:07:05 am

Robert

7/20/2013 03:16:00 am

I'm sorry. It appears a typo has happened and some of my statement above was "repeated."

Robert

7/20/2013 03:09:49 am

I accept the H2 show for what it is: entertainment. It is NOT intended as as scientific treatise. The show has NO obligation other than to its investors (unfortunately). Still, it fires up the imagination and makes a person wonder about how much we really know about the beginnings of our country.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/20/2013 05:28:06 pm

The writing and re-writing of history is a never-finished task ... In order for our understandings of history to grow and deepen, there certainly are times when a received orthodoxy MUST be challenged, even if awkwardly ...

Mary

7/21/2013 11:40:46 am

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/21/2013 11:56:38 am

LOL ... Who could disagree ... ???

Ge Ki

7/22/2013 08:25:00 am

And those claiming to be authorities must be challenged, especially when they claim false credentials.

Hey, anybody can "challenge orthodoxy." But those that are dishonest will rightfully be given less credence; those who are honest will rightfully carry more weight. Honesty is the currency of research. Scott Wolters acts like he had no control over what went into his resume. Of course he did, and he could have objected to any BS changes, as any honest person would have. Bottom line: he is dishonest. I cannot trust someone like this. If I watch his show, how do I know what he has altered or skewed?

Ge Ki

7/22/2013 08:25:12 am

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/22/2013 09:29:27 am

I don't think that an "Honorary Degree" constitutes a "credential," per se, but is simply a notice of significant achievement ...

However ... Was the feature article on Scott Wolter in the UM-D Alumni Magazine a decade ago ... somehow "fake" ... ??? How many UM-D Alums have been so HONORED ... ??? I'm just sayin' ...

Jason Colavito link

7/22/2013 10:34:24 am

His bachelor's degree is real, and he was profiled for that reason. Giorgio Tsoukalos was profiled in my college's alumni magazine back when he was a bodybuilding promoter, so it's not a particularly high bar to clear.

CFC

7/22/2013 10:37:05 am

Phil- Why not contact UMD and see what they think of the claim of an honorary degree from their institution. Let us know if they believe he's behaved honorably.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/22/2013 10:52:04 am

You're kidding, right ... ??? You think that the University of Minnesota-Duluth graduates so FEW Bachelor's Degrees that they ALL eventually receive a full page article in the Alumni magazine ... ???

LOL ... (hint: their annual enrollment is in excess of 10,000 students ...)

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/22/2013 10:55:41 am

Well, again ... I personally and professionally know some of Scott Wolter's geology profs -- Profs. Drs. Matsch and Ojakangas ... and I know for a fact that THEY are not ashamed of their former student, now colleague ...

But again ... The questions about the H2 channels shows ought to be about the content presented -- NOT about the host ...

Americanegro

9/4/2016 01:50:04 pm

Rev. Scott, I mean Phil, an honorary degree is a "credential" when you put it on your resume and only pull it after the state body that licenses you asked if it was real.

CFC

7/22/2013 10:51:50 am

Exactly!!!

CFC

7/22/2013 11:14:22 am

My comment "exactly" was in reference to Ge Ki who said it well, "Bottom line: he is dishonest. I cannot trust someone like this."
The host of the H2 program America Unearthed got caught faking his credentials. It's as simple as that.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/22/2013 12:20:45 pm

LOL ... The only perfectly totally honest person who ever lived is Jesus of Nazareth, and he was killed for it ...

But ... I have known Scott Wolter as a friend and as a professional colleague for 25+ years ... He doesn't know everything about everything ... Being fully human, he does make some mistakes ... He isn't perfect ...

But again ... The content of the H2 TV shows is a DIFFERENT question than anything about their host ... I know Scott Wolter ... and he is NOT an appreciably dishonest person ...

Frank Burke

7/30/2013 12:02:12 pm

So like others being bored I accidentally turned on a re-run of 'America Unearthed' and subsequent to that found this blog. Thank goodness for that as at first I thought I was just being harsh in my reaction to the 'American Maya Secrets'. First, I live in Minnesota and had to chuckle about the 'whipped cream coffee' certificate of an honorary masters degress .... this is something right out of an episode of Prairie Home Companion as somehow substantative of, well, nothing.

Next, I am not native to Minnesota but grew up literally in the shadow of Monk's Mound in Cahokia, IL and have a direct line to Native American ancestry (my great grandmother). Just in this one episode we see the usual Euro-centric view, indigenous people to North America somehow navigated a land bridge spread across the continent and then somehow were too savage to develop any active cultural exchange and trade routes because the distances were somehow too daunting. Yes in later episodes we find that obviously someone wearing horns on their iron age helmets could walk 3/4 across North America but natives to this land were too savage to leave the mud hut. It's somehow a 'mystery' that similarities exist between Meso-America and North America (restored) native sites. Ignore the vast trade routes that existed withint the Mississippian Culture of mound builders that stretched far and wide even into tributaries of the Upper Mississippi well into western Minnesota (his own state). That a native site in Georgia has an entry facing East and Mayan structures do too would be a "Huge" discovery. Really? even the Plains culture oriented their nomadic lodgings to greet the morning sun. Soctt? congratulations you've hit on your own formula that was long ago mastered by P T Barnum .... the 'why shucks, gosh darn' crowd which now seems to drive THC's demographic for programming is likely enamored with your phoney resume and how 'scientific' you make it all sound. IMHO you are one step above the supermarket tabloid for 'science'.

Your job isn't to explain the unexplainable ... your job is apparently to just plain job people tuning expecting something substance other than overly melodramatic sounds tracks to take away from the unmitigated drivel. Now excuse while I quickly change the channel to avoid more BS from another episode of a show that no longer holds any credibility.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/30/2013 12:11:55 pm

Yes ...the H2 "America Unearthed" TV shows are TV shows ... Even some fairly well-done shows on The Discovery channel ("How the Earth was Made") ... make me *wince* ...

Bimmerella

9/18/2013 07:59:22 am

I AM RIGHT WITH FRANK ON THIS ONE!

coogleman5

7/30/2013 01:54:24 pm

You never did say anything to (TheTruthRevieled) I guess he got you. You are false advertising about your best selling book. And can't back it up. I don't care either way. But I took the time to read all of this crap,you could of at least replied to him

Jason Colavito link

7/30/2013 02:05:15 pm

How many times am I supposed to answer the same question? I said my book was an Amazon.com Best Seller in the Archaeology category in December 2012. It was. It hasn't been before or since. It isn't false advertising to say something that's true. Are you aware that "Best Seller" isn't a numeric designation? None of my books has sold more than a few thousand copies, but then again there have been New York Times bestsellers that have sold that few copies some weeks. Some Wall Street Journal "best sellers" sell only 3,000 copies. I don't think it will shock anyone to know that the archaeology category is not home to the biggest sellers in the book industry.

geologuy

7/31/2013 07:19:22 pm

I finally saw an episode, the one about Michigan copper. Michigan is an interesting place as copper occurs naturally as a metal (instead of being combined with sulfur, which more common), so it could be directly turned into tools by ancient peoples without much effort. Scott interpreted much of the geology correctly and didn't try to read too much into what he saw. One point where he mis-interpreted results was when the Michigan native copper chemistry was compared to Minoan copper chemistry. He argued similarities based on 99.9% Cu purity, compared to a copper ingot form a sunken Minoan ship with similar purity, supported a common source. That is bad science. Natural native copper will likely have a similar bulk composition to smelted copper if only copper is compared. What is needed is a comparison of the 'trace elements' that comprise that 0.9% of the copper from Michigan. Scott should take his sample, smelt it into an ingot, then compare the trace element signature (all of the trace elements and their relative abundances) of his ingot to the Minoan ingot. Trace elements are the true DNA of metals in archeology and are applicable to silver and gold artifacts as well.

Also that tablet looked pretty bogus, heavily weathered, and the fact that the cameras never really showed good shots of the markings makes me think that it is a stone that should really be left unturned.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/1/2013 01:00:05 am

I agree ... The entire Minoan Copper episode was ... shall we say, unconvincing ...

Daniel Schmidt

8/3/2013 05:08:31 am

Couldn't care less whether Scott has a "degree"... I know a lot of incompetent Phd.'s... Most are in fact useless academics... Fools who study fools for paper and a piece of the action, have little to be proud of; when Truth is ignored for that.

To be too concerned about the money someone makes for their REAL WORK in the field, in search of honest answers; is odd... academics is all about controlling the money and the conversations to protect the money; so the pot itself is blacker than black. A joke really... find two Phd's that agree on everything or anything honestly. That's why they have consortiums, so they can beat up on each other, take votes and shove outsiders into the closet and pat each other on the back for winning by out numbering; and shouting down the crowds...

Ge Ki

8/3/2013 09:31:29 am

Spoken like someone who hasn't studied and sweated for years to earn a Ph.D. Are there "incompetent" Ph.D.s? Sure, a few. But contrary to your denigration of education, I'll guarantee you this: In any given subject, the percentage of incompetent people without a Ph.D. is far higher than the percentage of incompetent Ph.D.s.

But the point of this page is NOT that Scott Wolters lacks a Ph.D. Jacques Cousteau didn't have a Ph.D., and he did ground-breaking research. The point of this page is that Scott Wolters LIED about having an honorary degree. HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE. And on top of that, he does crappy "research." He is one person who could benefit from going through the rigorous training of a Ph.D. program, if he had the discipline to stick with it.

Ge Ki

8/3/2013 09:31:45 am

Ge Ki

8/3/2013 09:31:58 am

Daniel Schmidt

8/4/2013 08:49:16 am

There are many ways to get a good education... some not so proud and boastful... or protective. What is truth; that would be a True subject? Is all this about a lie? Really? That's the whole purpose for this? Than too many words have been wasted... Phd. or otherwise... the subject is disgraceful; for those like us who enter into it... Just grievances; a way to settle pet peeves... what are you protecting? The question is simply rhetorical... not personal. Just happened to come across this silly conversation then. Sorry. Keep talking if this is what it means to you and I will stay away.

Daniel H Schmidt

8/4/2013 09:02:54 am

Sorry, Ge Ki, just ran thru your other replies... some things are just hard to defend aren't they?

Ge Ki

8/4/2013 09:49:10 am

Daniel, I'm afraid I don't understand your posts. Perhaps if you could elaborate on your views.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/4/2013 02:43:11 pm

Again ... Patiently ... The whole bit about Scott Wolter's "honorary degree" -- or not -- is simply an ad hominem distraction ...

He WAS written up in The University of Minnesota Duluth Alumni magazine, which WAS an authentic HONOR that is NOT routinely bestowed on every UMD graduate ... Get over it ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/4/2013 02:43:18 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/4/2013 02:43:25 pm

Ge Ki

8/4/2013 03:53:54 pm

Rev Phil - Keep on trying to convince us that lying doesn't matter. Wow, Wolters was WRITTEN UP in the alumni magazine! That's just as good as an honorary degree, I guess! Sure buddy. Would you teach your child that it's OK to lie, as long as you're "written up" in an alumni magazine? I wouldn't. And I can't think of any real "Reverend" who would either. Where were you ordained, anyway? Let me guess - it was done with whipped-cream-topped coffee.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/5/2013 11:52:52 am

MORE ad hominem stuff ... So what ... ???

Ge Ki

8/5/2013 04:04:39 pm

Nice job totally ignoring the part about lying. No comment on that, ay?

Daniel Schmidt

8/5/2013 06:46:15 am

Francis Bacon said, even as a teenager, with regard to what was the most difficult thing he had to learn at the University by Queen Elizabeth... his reply was, "the most difficult thing was to unlearn what I have learned..." "Pass the test" philosophy; makes no one a philosopher. It's something that comes from within. What have you done? What have you done that has given you so much elegance? Have you discovered something that has propelled you to the top? It's a difficult thing to argue; for or against; and only a fool would be fool enough to enter into an argument that cannot be won or be resolved.

Is this your life's mission now? Is this why you got your degree?

Peer Review just means "Lets gang up..." the same with all the platforms and awards. They mean more money. One for Truth is enough for me!

What good is a peer review of fools? Do you study Scientific American from 100 years ago? They were peer reviewed... How much of it is true?

The "Earth is Flat" it's not. Every year "theories" are as good a dead... were those peers before; today; good for the argument?

For every physicists that swears by the Table of Elements and particle theories, I can show you a huge field of those, even physicists that have real problems that... that;s only one small example...

Opposites attract... no true at all... space collapses between these forces and these forces fly apart. These things are all appearances burdened by the senses.

I have seen dozens of fundamental principles that have fallen flat outside of the University environment. Peers? Peers? I love me, I love me not... I love me... Please be my reflection... That's a peer.

I can show you thousands of pages of evidence and it would mean nothing to you; even if it were buried in your vaults and those who made those real discovers have been chastised and black balled. They all had Phd's as well, but got fed up with the politics and moneyed arguments...

So where does this get you? Have you been to the sites; have you done the work that Scott has done; do you have access to the lab results, have you looked with less than jealous eyes; or is this just the way you spend your time? What the hell do you know? You sound like a punk... a peevish child. He lied! He lied! Mama Mama! He... he... he... lied! Are you a Phd? Really? Is this what its all about...

Ge Ki

8/5/2013 07:08:10 am

Daniel, I am sure you have something coherent to say, but you seem to have difficulty saying it coherently. For example, this nebulous statement: "Opposites attract... no true at all... space collapses between these forces and these forces fly apart. These things are all appearances burdened by the senses." Space between these forces? What forces are you talking about? And what the bleep does the rest of it mean?

You denigrate peer-review, claiming (I think) that it's all a farce, and that peers just robotically support each other. I've been a peer reviewer for a paper submitted to a scientific journal for publication. I can tell you that I found the quality lacking, so I tore that work apart. I've seen many researchers get disappointing remarks on their submitted manuscripts. Some are told to gather more data in support of this point or another. Some are outright rejected for publication. Judging from your lack of organized thought, I would be surprised if you've ever gotten anything published in a peer-reviewed journal. If I'm wrong, please let me know. I would like to read the paper.

Re: lying. So anyone who distrusts a liar is akin to a child whining to his mother? Nice to know that you place such a low value on truth. But finding the truth is what research is all about. So if you think it's OK to lie, then I would not trust any research coming from you. The same holds for Wolters.

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8/5/2013 03:56:41 pm

So ... When you have reviewed -- and REJECTED -- a paper submitted for peer review prior to publication ... Does that *rejection* then mean that EVERYTHING done by, and submitted by, THAT author/researcher is now entirely JUNK ... ???

Isn't the ESSENCE of "truth" seeking to take information and claims and ideas and proposals AS THEY ARE for review and examination no matter WHO offers or proposes ... ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/5/2013 03:56:47 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/5/2013 03:56:54 pm

Ge Ki

8/5/2013 04:13:24 pm

No, it doesn't necessarily mean everything is junk, though it could. It could mean that there are insufficient data for a strong publication. It could mean the authors drew conclusions that were not justified by the data. It could mean that their writing was atrocious.

Re: "Isn't the ESSENCE of "truth" seeking to take information and claims and ideas and proposals AS THEY ARE for review and examination no matter WHO offers or proposes ... ???"

That is precisely what was done. The journal DOES take information, claims, ideas, and proposals as they are for review and examination, no matter who they're from. And they have peers review this material before they go to the trouble of publishing it. If the peers say it's weak, it can be sent back for revision, or if more data are needed, it's sent back with a request for more data. Or, if it's total crap, it's simply rejected. Got a problem with any of that?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/6/2013 10:26:14 am

I am ENTIRELY in favor of "peer review" ...

I am entirely AGAINST character assassination and other such ad hominem tactics as a SUBSTITUTE for reasonable discussion ...

Got a problem with that ... ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/6/2013 10:26:22 am

Ge Ki

8/6/2013 10:32:14 am

Rev Phil, Your last two posts have been especially nebulous. First you're ranting about a research paper being rejected, now you're ranting about character assassination. Specify for me please - Whose character have I assassinated?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/6/2013 12:53:26 pm

"Rant" ... ??? Excuse me ... ???

I am simply reflecting on the topic of this Blog ...

Ge Ki

8/6/2013 01:15:29 pm

Just answer the question and stop trying to avoid it. And yes, "rant" is appropriate for the posts I referred to. Look at all those ALL CAPS words you used.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/6/2013 02:35:05 pm

I use "caps" for EMPHASIS ... and nothing else ...

But ... again ... patiently ... not for the FIRST time ...

The VERY slight misunderstanding or misunderapprehension about Scott Wolter's "honorary degree" have N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with the CONTENT of his work ... NOR anything about the H2 TV shows which he hosts ...

And again ... I have known Scott Wolter personally for 25+ years as a personal friend and as a professional colleague ... I KNOW that he is not an appreciably dishonest person ... He simply ISN'T ...

Ge Ki

8/6/2013 03:58:18 pm

Says you. And given that you are defending a proven liar, your word is as worthless as his.

Regarding the "content of his work," well, we just don't know what that content is, do we? He could be editing the video to misrepresent the truth, just as he has lied to misrepresent the truth. As I've said...patiently...truth is the currency of research. Anyone willing to sacrifice the truth cannot be trusted. Nor can anyone who defends lying, such as yourself, "Rev." You never did answer my question about where you were ordained.

Ge Ki

8/6/2013 04:07:32 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/6/2013 04:30:33 pm

Is your position on these questions really so WEAK that you must persist in the ad hominem stuff ... ???

Whatever ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/6/2013 04:30:39 pm

Is your position on these questions really so WEAK that you must persist in the ad hominem stuff ... ???

Whatever ...

Ge Ki

8/6/2013 04:34:19 pm

Specify where my position is weak. You saying it doesn't make it so. But you won't specify, because you don't want to address the issues. You just want to whine about it.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/6/2013 04:53:25 pm

LOL ... Virtually by definition -- ANYONE who resorts to ad hominem comments would appear to have not much else at hand ...

I dunno ... You're the one who seems to feel the need to sling personal insults ...

Whatever ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/6/2013 04:58:51 pm

But ...

"Ge Ki" ... ??? Really ... ??? Are you from "Vulcan," or ... ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/27/2013 05:11:07 pm

"Ge Ki" ... ??? ...from "Vulcan" ... ??? Really ... ???

Ge Ki

8/6/2013 06:42:17 pm

Bottom line, "Rev": You defend lying. You can leave it there if you want.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 03:05:16 am

No ...
I'll "leave it" with "personal knowledge"

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 03:05:23 am

No ...
I'll "leave it" with "personal knowledge"

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 08:40:38 am

I am rising to defend a PERSON ... as distinct from a claim or an idea or a TV show ...

I am rising to defend the utter necessity of eschewing ad hominem remarks in favor of discussing ideas and facts ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 08:40:45 am

Ge Ki

8/7/2013 09:48:25 am

Look, I'm proud of you for learning a new term, "ad hominem." You've shown us all that you've mastered it. Congratulations. However, we are discussing ideas and facts, as you claim to want to do. It just so happens that those ideas and facts reflect badly on Scott Wolter, so you're calling them "ad hominem" attacks. You're telling us to ignore his lying, and just believe his TV show. That makes no sense. Jacques Cousteau didn't lie about his credentials. Steve Irwin didn't lie about his either. I trust what they show me on TV. Scott Wolter has proven he is willing to lie to get what he wants. That is the fact that we are discussing here. And I don't trust what he shows us on TV. Given your support for lying, why don't you just drop the title of "Reverend"? You won't tell us where you were ordained. In fact, why not drop "Phil Gotsch" also, and admit that you're Scott Wolter?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/8/2013 12:12:21 pm

Oh, my ... !!!

I only just now saw your suggestion that "Scott Wolter" is now posing as "Rev. Phil Gotsch" ... !!! LOL ... !!!

I can guarantee you that Scott would get a HUGE "kick" out of that one (especially reflecting back on an incident now more than a decade back, which Scott and I vividly recall ... !!!)

Thank you for good laugh, "Ge Ki" (whoever you are) ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/27/2013 04:08:17 pm

I see that you ("Ge Ki," whoever you REALLY are) have by default now withdrawn your exceedingly odd speculation that I am Scott Wolter in disguise ... ???

Daniel Schmidt

8/7/2013 03:45:23 am

Universities don't lie? really... they're a propaganda mill. Always have been... Truth has no business there. Never has... They're meant to lead the childish, the academic easily led where ever mommies lead them... Grown men work with confidence in themselves.

Children form peer groups on playgrounds. Play "dress up"... They covet toys. Demand gifts. Beg for money. Cry when they don't get their way... become tattle tales... Sound familiar?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 04:51:32 am

Well, yes and no ...

I don't have quite such a negative "take" on universities and academics ... But ...

Yes ... ALL schools of higher learning and all profs and academics and researchers and teachers are thoroughly human, and so do partake of all the human foibles to some degree ... including jealousy, narrow-mindedness, exaggerated self importance, judgmental mean spirit, and so on ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 04:51:38 am

Daniel Schmidt

8/7/2013 05:29:48 am

They reflect the world... but not an institution of saints no doubt... Knowledge, philosophy is good... sometimes it's skimmed and twisted... for politics, for greed, for religion, for race, for whatever reason. Take Darwinism for example... cross breeding produces seedless fruit... Two mules don't make a donkey... How long will it take to reason that; it's buried into everything. Something's missing but it's not bones...

History is not chards of glass, but we keep on looking. Real history is hidden. War is not history; it's in the minds and hearts; not in books even. Books are like a key. Once inside and the door is opened; what good are they?

How many fake particles are necessary for paper physics to build it's 17 mile dreams. It provides a paycheck but not the truth...

I was at JPL and I watched 20 people do the work of one... 19 to think and dream and one to do the job. Hundreds of monitors, but no one really watching... Do they really think and dream; or are they really just goofing off, and waiting around for someone else to do something that they can attach themselves to for popularity and job security? Take a look around... this doesn't even touch on the lechery... the drunks, the dopers... smokers who have no idea what's really going on... even simple things astound them.

Most are high school kids far beyond their teens... sadly. When you get older you look, but unfortunately you look behind... and see what really was without the spectacles of dreamy attitudes.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 05:57:56 am

Ouch ... !!!
Your critique is very sharp and obviously fueled at least in part by your own real life real world experiences ... Experience counts, doesn't it ... ???

Yes ... Getting a paycheck for doing *something* (even if it's often just "trying to 'look busy") ... yes, that figures into it ...

(As a big-time longstanding fan of space exploration, however, I continue to "dig" the ongoing missions ... I do concede of course that I know exactly nothing at all of really what goes on at JPL-NASA when the cameras aren't rolling ...)

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Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 05:58:02 am

crowfoote

8/7/2013 05:42:00 pm

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Daniel Schmidt

8/7/2013 02:24:54 pm

Yes of course. I have my own telescope; my own dreams, waste my own time... but it is what is on the resume that reflects real work experience that counts... whether paid or unpaid; whether with recognition or without; particularly when I get old and things of relevance become less relevant, things remembered are forgotten and the only thing that matters is character... real character... the thing that holds value when tested in the field in experience and culture. This life fly's away like a kite in a hurricane... Come what may, no one will ask what school I went to when I pass away... Pretty soon we discover; 10 years is just a day and that knock will be the true test of fate... no papers will follow me.

feefers

8/7/2013 04:12:27 pm

ok, now the funniest thing i have seen in the above blog is the main man saying "However, I can found things on the Kensington Rune Stone scholars missed for over a hundred years that proved its medieval origin".
all i saw was the actual govenrment employee expert trying & failing to not laugh at you & what u were saying.
my husband who works with runes tried to translate what you claim was on there & couldnt get any such thing out of it.
we are still giggling

crowfoote

8/7/2013 04:45:08 pm

I have just placed a babalfish in my ear I understand the Vogons are here

crowfoote

8/7/2013 04:48:27 pm

Scott the answer is still 42

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 04:57:38 pm

(1) Don't panic ...

(2) Don't forget to bring your towel ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/7/2013 04:57:45 pm

(1) Don't panic ...

(2) Don't forget to bring your towel ...

Rev. Americanegro

9/4/2016 04:29:34 pm

Phil, you are not posting enough duplicates of your comments! The more duplicates, the stronger your argument gets! It will harden your resolve!! Don't let anyone convince you it's like playing with yourself!!

Impact of technology link

8/8/2013 12:40:09 am

Thank you for such a fantastic blog. Where else could anyone get that kind of info written in such a perfect way? I have a presentation that I am presently working on, and I have been on the look out for such information.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/8/2013 02:24:22 am

You're welcome ...

CFC

8/9/2013 04:43:52 pm

I’m positive Scott Wolter won’t be written about in the University of Minnesota Duluth alumi publication or any publication affiliated with UMD ever again.

Where he is finding acceptance is with folks that go to events like Paradigm Symposium or those who promote these wacky paranormal radio programs and magazines, etc.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/10/2013 12:13:49 pm

I had never heard of the "Paradigm Symposium" until now ...

It will apparently be an interesting bunch of presenters ... Along with my friend and colleague, Scott Wolter, one presenter will be Prof. Dr. P. Z. Meyers (Univ. Minnesota - Morris), who is well known as a very vocal opponent of the "Creationist - Intelligent Design" cult ...

bob

8/22/2013 05:50:21 pm

watched one show - did some online background checking scott wolters and his shows are total bullshit

Jason Akers

8/23/2013 09:44:15 am

I have read a lot on here about degrees, false degrees, and religious beliefs. I first want to tackle the idea of belief. Belief in any god is just that, belief. we can't prove god is real however many of us, including me, believe in him. If we can believe in something that we can't prove to be real than how is it we can't believe the work that Scott Wolter is doing isn't true. I have ready many statements that call for us to believe in god and not " this false work" that Scott wolter is doing. I for one can't see how religion has anything to do with what he is working on. Even if the Holy grail is a bloodline of Christ who are we to say that the son of God didn't have a family. we were not their, we did not see it first hand. For all we know the Grail could be nothing more than a symbolic meaning. However, we will never know if people like Scott wolter stop investigating and stop asking questions.

Secondly I would like to know why everyone is so tied up on credentials and degrees. At some point In history someone was discovering what we call scientific facts. Only they didn't have degrees to back up their findings. Degrees are something that the well educated created to separate themselves and their work from everyone else. It was only over time that we as a society have looked upon degrees as being a standard that we all live by. I'm sure the first ship builders and black smiths and even star gazers didn't have a degree to prove their work was right. Not that long ago people were programming the first computers and their work was accepted for fact and even marveled at. Now today when you go to school for programming you get a degree in computer science. Lets stop criticizing peoples work solely on the basis of degrees and what our religious beliefs are and let the facts come out. The facts may or may not be right but it is up to us all to as a world society to double check the facts and to prove or disprove them. Only then will we truly know what happened in history.

Jason Colavito link

8/23/2013 09:48:21 am

No one is criticizing Scott Wolter's work solely on his fictitious honorary master's degree. If you click the link at the top of the entry, you'll see dozens of pages of blog posts criticizing his work on its scientific merits. This particular blog post was written in response to a specific claim Wolter made on the radio--that he had an honorary master's degree, which he did not. Similar claims have led to firings and resignations of top-ranked government and educational officials, so it is hardly a moot point, even if it has no bearing on whether his claims about history are true.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/18/2013 08:57:05 am

Again ... to remind all ... The "America Unearthed" TV shows are just that -- and ONLY that -- that is, TV shows ...

Scott Wolter is their HOST, but the shows are not: "The Researches and Journals of Scott Wolter" ... They're TV shows ...

LOL ... I can imagine earnestly skeptical bloggers back in the 1960s complaining about the original "Star Trek" series, too, for all its errors and inconsistencies ... Lighten up, folks ...

Ge Ki

8/23/2013 10:01:04 am

I second what Jason Colavito said. Lots of people do excellent research without degrees. As I've said before, Jacques Cousteau is one example. But Scott Wolters lied about having a degree. Trust is the currency of research. Those who read about someone's work must trust that that person did not fudge the data or outright fake it. If Wolters is willing to lie about having an honorary degree, I don't trust him to not lie about other things. Plus, he does crappy research in the first place, as many have pointed out here.

Rev. Phil Gotsxh

8/25/2013 05:05:41 pm

No ... Thorough careful technique ... and publication ... and peer review ... are "currencies of research" ...

"Character assassination" has NO place in research ...

Ge Ki

8/25/2013 05:45:10 pm

Rev Phil, two things:

1) You've just listed 3 "currencies of research" that Scott Wolter lacks.

2) None of those 3 things are worth anything if the researcher isn't trustworthy, because the researcher can lie and can fake data. Trust is the more fundamental currency. Wolter lied, and nothing you say can change that. And certainly we shouldn't trust him just because he's a pal of yours.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/27/2013 03:04:42 pm

I don't know of ANY indication that Scott Wolter "faked" any data in his painstaking studies of the Kensington Rune Stone ...

Again, the H2 TV shows are TV SHOWS ...

Again ... I have known Scott Wolter both as a personal friend and as a professional colleague for 25+ years ... He is NOT a significantly dishonest person ...

Ge Ki

8/27/2013 03:54:12 pm

1) Like Wolter is going to tell you what he misrepresented on TV.
2) Yeah, the TV shows are TV shows. So what? Are you saying that anything goes on TV, whether it's true or not?
3) "Not significantly dishonest." That's a ringing endorsement. Well, I find that lying about having a degree is significantly dishonest. Would you teach kids that it's OK to do that? If so, shame on you.
4) "I've known him for 25+ years." Lucky you. But being your pal is no reason for everyone else to trust him.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/27/2013 04:05:33 pm

I "get" the fact that you're on some kind of mission or quest or vendetta ... Whatever ...

I'm familiar with Scott Wolter's serious work and also his (non-serious) TV shows ... You certainly are entitled to hold and voice your own opinion, as am I ...

Ge Ki

8/27/2013 04:30:36 pm

I have an open mind on the issue. That is one in the universe of possibilities.

Rev. Americanegro

9/4/2016 04:33:29 pm

What part of

"Scott Wolter is a proven liar who lied on his resume and only took off the lie because the state body that licenses him asked for proof (i.e. because he got caught), then made up a crazy story about a cup of coffee with whipped cream to 'explain' it"

do people not understand?

Ge Ki

8/27/2013 04:25:37 pm

The only thing to "get" is that science has zero tolerance for misrepresentation. That's why scientific knowledge is so solid. Once a scientist (and I use the term loosely here) lies, his reputation is shot. Wolter is no exception.

Glad you agree that his TV shows are not to be taken seriously.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/27/2013 05:01:45 pm

As I have indicated already (above), the real value of those H2 TV shows is to stimulate critical (!!!) thinking and discussion of North American history ...

Daniel Mara

8/27/2013 11:11:17 pm

Rev. Gotsch, surely you know "critical thinking and discussion" on any topic is best led/inspired by those with credibility. If the purpose of Wolter's TV show is to stimulate national conversation about something other than his (obviously) false, credentials, perhaps he should have stepped aside and allowed someone with an unimpeachable reputation to host!

Why is it that all the "alternate theories" regarding American history, Egyptian history... whoever's history(!) are always proposed & advanced by those outside mainstream academia? Is it only fear of ridicule by colleagues?

Compelling though they are, if such theories have a basis in provable truth, why hasn't the North American historical community come forward to rally around the possibility? Given our level of scientific sophistication, why has noone (other than Mr Wolther) come forward with corroborating research to further what Wolther proposes?

Personally, I find the pre-Columbian exploration of North America by Europeans absolutely fascinating. I wish there were more shows and literature (for historical laymen) about Viking explorers! And, to be perfectly frank, I also happen to think there MIGHT ACTUALLY BE SOMETHING to the "Templars in America theory". BUT, w/o a "better" spokesperson & research, it all comes across as a hustle - the topic of a less-than-credible TV "reality show", hosted by a less-than-credible character (Wolther) and tailor-made for the average, mindless American with a pitifully short attention-span, (purposely made that way by our horrible [un]education system)!

Maybe there should be a TV show on THAT! Or, another on why my son is $90K+ in debt (from far-too-easy-to-get college loans), yet knows practically NOTHING OF VALUE! Or, an "alternate theory" (ie: the TRUTH) as to the REAL causes of the US Civil War! Or, how about the TRUTh about the "lost" (yet, almost certainly ratified) 13th Amendment?

How about a show which forces Americans to THINK and which might actually DO something - other than simply "entertain"? How about a show that's INSPIRATIONAL and which makes Americans want to better themselves and their lot in life??? Or, one showing successful Americans in a good light; highlighting their philanthropic efforts benefitting those who truly CAN'T help themselves?

Of course, I know why such shows will never air. If only the American public knew and understood how under attack they truly are! After all, who cares about Vikings and Templars when you're living under a bridge?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/28/2013 03:40:26 am

Daniel ... If you have "the Chops" and "the Creds" ... Go For It ... !!!

CFC

8/27/2013 04:30:21 pm

Phil
We have gotten the message that you have chosen to support Mr. Wolter in spite of the FACT that he has been dishonest for many years about receiving an honorary master’s degree. Here is a post on a professional website that states the following in his bio:
"He completed his undergrad at University of Minnesota - Duluth in 1982 and has a honorary Masters Degree from the University of Minnesota - Duluth in 1987"

I know for certain that in the research community and all the professional groups I am familiar with, this type of dishonesty would never be acceptable under ANY circumstances. To minimize and excuse his dishonesty lacks integrity. To hold him accountable would be admirable.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/27/2013 05:04:28 pm

In a lengthy post (above) Scott Wolter himself very nicely explained his *tongue*in*cheek* honorary master's degree ...

For reasons of your own, YOU choose to "pile on" and "beat a dead horse" ...

Ge Ki

8/28/2013 04:29:15 am

I didn't see his tongue or his cheek in his bio.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/28/2013 05:56:15 am

LOL ... You're just jealous that he HAS some real-world accomplishments ... ??? What are yours ... ??? Nobody in this forum even knows your NAME, much less anything about you ... Whatever ...

Ge Ki

8/28/2013 10:52:11 am

"Rev": In your world, truth is not sacred. In your world, the only reason for objecting to a lie is jealousy. Many times you have ignored my question: Would you teach a child that it is OK to lie about having an honorary degree?

And regarding your claim that "the real value of those H2 TV shows is to stimulate critical (!!!) thinking and discussion of North American history," I agree with Daniel Mara above. People don't have to be hoodwinked in order to get interested in history. Listening to someone knowledgeable, interesting, and truthful will usually do it.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/28/2013 12:11:19 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you really are):

Again ... patiently ... The H2 "America Unearthed" TV Shows are ... TV SHOWS ... They are offered for purpose of inducing viewers to watch the adverts ... (duh) ... IF in the process of viewing, some watchers are stimulated to think and learn, I think that is a GOOD thing ...

Unfortunately, very very very many TV shows are ... "lite" ... in some unfortunate ways, and that is the case even for many of them that are technically quite good (recall the "Cosmos" series, that featured extended shots of Carl Sagan grinning or pretending to be in AWE as he moved fake crystals around on the fake control panel of his fake spaceship ...)

The obsession with Scott Wolter's *tongue*in*cheek* honorary degree is actually funny ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/28/2013 12:12:56 pm

"Ge Ki" ...

Who are you ... ??? What is YOUR background ... ??? What is your training ... ??? Seriously ... I'm curious as to why you feel the need to HIDE your identity ... ???

Ge Ki

8/28/2013 05:14:17 pm

"Rev": Who I am has no bearing on who Scott Wolter is, which is the subject of this blog. I see no need to address such a completely irrelevant question, from you who avoid so many relevant questions above.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/29/2013 01:45:37 am

Ah ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/29/2013 03:03:48 am

It does appear that my impression of "jealousy" is correct ... Scott Wolter is excoriated for an honest innocent mistake in his resume ... while his harshest critics don't HAVE a resume ...

Bimmerella

9/18/2013 09:01:13 am

Ge ki is someone just like me, who saw Mr Wolter represent himself as an expert, who put himself in the public domain, and asked us to accept his logic. When that didn't register with either of us, we both decided to further investigate. Neither of us are asking you to believe anything other than the fact that Wolter, for whatever reason is misrepresented and indeed allowed it to perpetuate until he got called on it. Now you arrogantly assume in order to even ask a question regarding your friend, who you ask us to believe because you believe, that we are obliged to reveal our identities? That's just complete crap. None of us are asking you to believe anything, other than we have questions, raised by your pal. The person that does ask us to have a look for ourselves why he has a belief contrary to Wolper is Jason, who is hiding nothing and and as far as I'm concerned, he's not asking us to believe anything. He is simply backing up his conclusions. I've been reading this back and and forth, and quite frankly I'm agreeing with Jason, in that what he says about the degree is true, and that beyond being a character witness for Wolter and asking us to take your word from it, the argument has reached beyond there even being a point to it. You disagree, you know him, we are wrong, end of story. You realize what a weak argument that is among people who landed here because they had questions they were looking for facts to resolve. I respect that Wolter is your homie, but please respect your bud put himself out there and i have not only the right, but i feel an obligation to myself to ask questions....your friend's actions rightfully in my mind call motivation into question. You haven't presented one thing that satisfies that big ugly blaring question. Does my identity really matter? I'm doing nothing but trying to satisfy my own curiosity.

CFC

8/29/2013 05:40:20 am

Actually Phil, Wolter's harshest critics would be the University of Minnesota Duluth. Don't fool yourself into thinking that they aren't appauled by him faking this degree over a couple of decades.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/29/2013 01:34:21 pm

LOL ... I am reasonably sure that YOUR teachers would be "appauled" at your mis-spelling ...

Ge Ki

8/29/2013 01:46:32 pm

"Rev" predictably ignores the point.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/29/2013 02:59:53 pm

Nope ... Presumably, if Scott Wolter had been censured by The UM-D Faculty Senate or had his degree revoked or been somehow otherwise repudiated by the Board of Regents or by his beloved former teachers, who are now his colleagues ... there would be some public record of that ... Where is it ... ???

Hello ... ???

virginia

1/4/2014 03:14:44 pm

Woot woot! Love that Rev. I'm appawled myself. bwahahahahahaha

Americanegro

9/4/2016 04:41:25 pm

You can't revoke a degree that's completely made up.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/18/2013 03:02:45 pm

"Bimmerella" --

In a very polite and clear posting waaaay back in January, Scott Wolter cleared up the honest and insignificant misunderstanding about an "honorary Master's Degree" ... Get over it ... or not ...

Rev. Americanegro

9/4/2016 04:42:47 pm

It's not an "honest and insignificant misunderstanding" when someone LIES for over a decade on their resume.

What part of

"Scott Wolter is a proven liar who lied on his resume and only took off the lie because the state body that licenses him asked for proof (i.e. because he got caught), then made up a crazy story about a cup of coffee with whipped cream to 'explain' it"

do people not understand?

CFC

8/29/2013 03:44:03 pm

By "colleagues" and "beloved former teachers" you mean those academics who are regularly castigated by the host of America Unearthed (Mr. Wolter) for “hiding” the real truth?

Eventually some journalist or university official will take notice beyond this blog, and Mr. World Renowned Forensic Geologist will be outed for faking a degree.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/29/2013 05:22:21 pm

You ARE jealous, aren't you ... ???

Ge Ki

8/29/2013 06:24:13 pm

Another irrelevant comment from the self-proclaimed "Rev." Watch, this, he's gonna do it again with this question, which always gives him trouble: Hey "Rev.," would you teach kids that it's OK to lie about having an honorary degree?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/30/2013 04:46:51 am

I find your ongoing vitriol ... interesting ...

stephen

1/18/2014 04:40:10 pm

I wonder if anyone is aware of the FACT that the Smithsonian has pursued a long standing policy of culutural isolation. This means that no peoples had any contact between the Eastern and Western continenets, and Australia. I am aware this poliucy is BS. There have been stone tablets found in Brazil written in Phoenocian. There is a rock in Arizona, called Ten Commandments rock, because the Ten Commandments are written in ancient Hebrew (about 1500 BC), There are ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs on a stone cliff in Australia, by the way, only a handful of the most educated Archeologists could translate. Roman coins found in America. So you can see why Scott's critics seem to be pretty lame, as they attack his credentials, rahther than his reports on history that these poser scholars would ignore. A good example would be the existance of Caucasian, Redhaired Giants (people at least 8ft tall) in North America that predate the Amerindians. There burial remains have been found from 1799 to 1978, from New Engand to California.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/30/2013 04:45:49 am

I teach "honesty" in general, including the need NOT to confuse criticism of ideas and claims with "character assassination" ...

Ge Ki

8/30/2013 05:29:29 am

Ta-da!! See? "Rev" completely avoided the question. Try again, "Rev." Would you teach kids that it's OK to lie about having an honorary degree?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/30/2013 06:42:42 am

I teach "honesty" in general, including honesty in representing what others have said or written or claimed ...

And ... No ... I have NOT "stopped beating my spouse" and I will NOT "stop beating my spouse" -- EVER -- because I have NEVER engaged in such a thing ...

Ge Ki

8/30/2013 06:58:52 am

Ta-da again!! See? He can't answer it! Instead, he tries to paint it as a trick question, as if he would somehow incriminate himself if he simply said, "No, I would never teach kids that it's OK to lie about haing an honorary degree." Hey "Rev.," try this version:

"Rev," I would not teach kids that it's OK to lie about having an honorary degree. Would you?

Now watch folks, he's not gonna answer it.

Scotty Roberts link

9/22/2013 12:56:34 pm

Ge Ki,
You have completely attempted to make much ado about nothing. "There are four lights."

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/30/2013 07:03:01 am

What do you not understand about "honesty" as a TOTAL plan, including ACCURATE representation of what other people say and write ... ???

Scott Wolter didn't "lie" about having been given an "honorary Master's Degree" by his Professors ...

Ge Ki

8/30/2013 07:42:02 am

I understand that "honesty as a total plan, blah, blah, blah," is not an answer to my question. I mean, it's a simple Yes or No question, "Rev." Try this: You can answer Yes or No, and then elaborate all you want! That's reasonable, right? OK, ready? Go!

Now watch, ladies and gentlemen, as the self-proclaimed "Reverend" (meaning that he is revered!) once again finds himself unable to utter the simple word "Yes" or "No" as to whether he would teach kids that it's wrong to lie about having an honorary degree.

Rev. Americanegro

9/4/2016 04:46:20 pm

What part of

"Scott Wolter is a proven LIAR who LIED on his resume and only took off the LIE because the state body that licenses him asked for proof (i.e. because he got caught), then made up a crazy story about a cup of coffee with whipped cream to 'explain' it"

do people not understand?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/30/2013 08:57:41 am

It is WRONG to tell a "lie" about anything (except when a higher purpose requires it, e.g., to save a life), INCLUDING telling a 'lie" about Scott Wolter ...

Ge Ki

8/30/2013 10:14:34 am

Ta-da yet again!! "Rev," you're getting ever so close, but you just can't commit to Yes or No on this question. You tell when it MIGHT be ok to lie, but you won't address this particular case. Plus, for some strange reason, you put "lie" in quotation marks! As if it's just a figure of speech or something.

Now, let's try it again. Just please answer this question with a Yes or No, and then you can elaborate all you want. Here's the question again:

"Rev," would you teach kids that it's OK to lie about having an honorary degree?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/30/2013 10:23:22 am

A "lie" is a false statement knowingly made with the deliberate intention to deceive ...

I do not believe that Scott Wolter "lied" about having an "honorary Master's Degree" from UM-D ... If he claimed that he had a Ph.D. in geology from the University of Michigan, THAT would be a "lie" ...

Ge Ki

8/30/2013 11:14:27 am

Ta-da #5! Yes folks, this time 'Rev" has kindly defined the word "lie" for us, and he has told us that he doesn't think Wolter lied. But of course, once again, he could not bring himself to answer the question I asked.

Hey "Rev" if it makes things even easier for you, just pretend we're not talking about Wolter, and try again: Would you teach kids that it's OK to lie about having an honorary degree?

Again, I am asking you to provide a Yes or No answer, and then you can elaborate all you want.

Bets anyone? Think he'll answer it this time?

Rev. Americanegro

9/4/2016 04:46:59 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/30/2013 11:54:54 am

Have a nice evening, "Gi Ke," whoever you are ...

Ge Ki

8/30/2013 05:41:55 pm

Will do. I'll keep the question warm for ya.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

8/31/2013 11:50:14 am

LOL ... Consistent with my new hypothesis -- that "Ge Ke" is one of the last surviving siblings of "The Bee Gees" -- it does appear that (s)he is infected with "Saturday Night Fever" ... ??? ;-)

Dan Sullivan link

9/1/2013 03:04:45 pm

The current education regime has become so entrenched with tenure, profit from publishing and sports money that to have history challenged and change cannot be tolerated by them. Given that most folks fall into not trusting the education regime or drinking the koolaid, I should have not been surprised to see the discourse focus on only attack and disproving or support. History is not as your where taught, nor is it exactly as Scott describes, unfortunately current methods used by the regime do not allow for any "out of the box" thinking, its quickly ridiculed and dismissed with the usual arrogance from people who thinking that their knowledge makes them a better human and therefore allowed to insult others with impunity.

jason Michael link

9/16/2013 03:19:47 pm

Thank You Dan Sullivan.

Some intelligent words without trying to destroy what a man's life long works. You don't have proof that disproves anything Scott Wolter says or how about challenging Erich Van Daniken's theory's? did you debunk his over 300 question marks that are left in his book? Show us one thing that will have a significant acheological fact that will dispute what either Scott Wolter Said or even Phillip Coppin. Giorgio A. Tsoukalos,r C. Scott Littleton,

Rémi Dallaire

9/2/2013 02:05:03 pm

Whatever . I have met many people with degrees that were dump as a box of rocks. The show is interesting..and ask many legitimates questions. The thing that bring down the show a little bit for me is that it's made like a badly acted reality show....But that's fun in a sick way too.

Hey I have an unfinished degree in archeology. Does that mean I should not post here.

Is this how scientist measure the lenght of their....well ya know...Thing....

My degree i better longer and piss further than yours ?

If so...that's freaking hillarious . Muahhhhhhhhhhahahahaha

Ge Ki

9/2/2013 02:30:56 pm

Remi - As is mentioned numerous times above, nobody is saying Scott Wolter needs a higher degree before he can do whatever it is he does. The problem is that he lied about having an honorary degree. Plus he does really crappy "science."

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/2/2013 04:39:41 pm

Again ... the "America Unearthed" H2 TV shows .. are TV SHOWS ...

However one evaluates their careful facticity (or not) ... they have genuine value in raising questions and stimulating thought and conversation about North American history ...

Ge Ki

9/3/2013 01:22:15 am

"Rev" Phil: We don't need crappy "science" to trick us into being interested in American history. You have well-established that you think it's OK to lie, as you see no problem with Scott Wolters claiming to have an honorary degree that he doesn't have.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/10/2013 12:33:00 pm

"Gi Ke" --

Maybe ... You could start-up your own Cable TV Channel and produce the shows YOU want to see ... ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/10/2013 12:33:07 pm

"Gi Ke" --

Maybe ... You could start-up your own Cable TV Channel and produce the shows YOU want to see ... ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/10/2013 12:33:13 pm

"Gi Ke" --

Maybe ... You could start-up your own Cable TV Channel and produce the shows YOU want to see ... ???

Bruce Keeler

9/3/2013 12:17:49 pm

Hey Scott, you're show is awesome and inspiring! Keep up the good work.

ignacio

9/11/2013 12:56:41 am

Google earth 3/12/2012 41º 40’24.03’’ N 70º15’12.48’’ O elev. 7m alt. 68 m

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/11/2013 04:11:25 am

Great tip ... Thanks ...

Christina M. Young-Jackson

8/30/2015 03:43:54 am

I agree...I love America Unearthed. Scott Wolter is watchable and engaging.
There is a personality factor involved in the success of any show such as this.
You could hold every degree in the sciences, and be as interesting as watching paint dry.
That said, Masters Degree or not, Scott Wolter is holding it up.
Good job. Keep it up.
CM Young-Jackson

Brigit MacTavish

9/7/2013 05:57:21 pm

Jose, If Jesus is from out of this world, that would make him an alien, right?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/8/2013 11:07:37 am

LOL ... More to the point of the "America Unearthed" H2 TV shows -- Did "Jesus" mine the copper on Isle Royale ... ???

Jason Michael

9/16/2013 06:54:18 am

The sad thing about your rant is that you are forgetting the main purpose behind the TV show, entertainment! Just as you pile on about Ancient Aliens, that is the same basic idea. I will wager any amount of money if History Channel asked for your opinion on one of their shows with a nice paycheck afterwards, you would toss this retarded BLOG in which you are seeking donations from Paypal. What difference is the mysterious degree Scott Wolter's has or the birth certificate Obama refuses to show? I love the fact he actually took the time to be humble and even address this site and misspelled on it. It show's he is human and not perfect like Jason Colivato. I hope Scott has many more seasons, new discoveries and you watch Ancient Aliens for the 6th season like the rest of us. I also hope when you stop asking for donations some grad student makes a thesis and tears you apart!!!

Jason Colavito link

9/16/2013 07:31:21 am

Actually, you'll see if you search my blog archives that I refused the History Channel when it asked me to compromise my judgment for ratings, and Destination America solicited me to host a program and then rejected me when I refused to stop being skeptical for the sake of cash. I practice what I preach.

Would you prefer instead of asking politely for donations, I saddle every post with a Viagra spam ad? Do you think that America Unearthed should stop selling commercial time since money so clearly compromises one's ability to render judgment?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/16/2013 09:30:48 am

Ummmm ...

Being "skeptical" is DIFFERENT than being closed-minded, judgmental, and snarky ...

I happen to be of a (genuinely) "skeptical" mind-set on the data and conclusions presented on the "America Unearthed" H2 TV shows -- WITHOUT being nasty about it ... or attacking PERSONS ...

Jason Colavito link

9/16/2013 10:00:10 am

Look, Phil... Am I going to have to close comments on this post? My response above had nothing to do with you and you know DAMN WELL that I was referring to small-s skepticism, not to angry materialism. You have made the same point upward of a hundred times, and at this point you are now repeating yourself ad nauseam. If you have nothing new to contribute, please just stop. You've hijacked this entire discussion into an endless paean to your own self-proclaimed virtue, and I've been patient about this. But I've had enough.

Jason Michael

9/16/2013 10:14:59 am

So now I'm "small-sskepticism"? Nice grammar! At what point did I share whether or not I believed what was on America Unearthed" other than it is entertainment? Of course you contacted by the History Channel. That's why you run a blog and and are not part of the main-stream media. That's why you are not open on your facebook and want to block this stream of comments because you yourself cannot handle the exact same criticism you give to Scott Wolter or other History Channel TV shows. Perhaps one day you can study up on integrity instead of trashing everyone in the field you proclaim to be an expert on. Douche.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/16/2013 10:29:39 am

... "angry materialism" ... ??? What the ... ??? Where have I posted any such thing ... ???

Jason ... You just don't like it when someone (like me -- reasonable, experienced, well-educated, and informed) objects to the tone of your sermons ...

But ... If you think that the Scott Wolter BASHING topic has been exhausted, then, by all means, let's discuss the CONTENT of the "America Unearthed" H2 TV shows ... Fine with me ... Go for it ... Why not ... ???

Jason Colavito link

9/16/2013 10:31:21 am

Yes, Jason, I want to block these comments. That's why I've left them open for almost a year. I didn't tell Phil he can't criticize me; I told him to stop repeating the same post again and again. We've all heard and read it, and at this point it's trolling.

I didn't say anything to you about America Unearthed to you and you seem to have confused my comment to Phil with my previous comment to you.

What do you mean that I am not open on Facebook? There's a link to my Facebook page at the top of this website. I don't use it for much of anything, and I don't have public comments there, but anyone is free to send a friend request.

By the way, have you ever been in negotiations with a major media company to host a TV show? I've done it twice. Much more goes into it than whether one is knowledgeable in a field.

Jason Colavito link

9/16/2013 10:36:46 am

All right, Phil. Here's what I have to say to you: Leave this thread. This is ONE blog post out of THREE YEARS worth of blog posts on this website, and you never comment on any of the substantive and factual blog posts in which I examine the content of various claims. Have you ever read beyond this one post, which you follow so very closely? Your lack of participation elsewhere suggests to me that you just enjoy yelling at me over a few paragraphs you disagree with. Try reading some of my YEARS of coverage of alternative history before you bleat self-righteously about how awful I am.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/16/2013 10:40:17 am

Everybody DOES have to make a living somehow -- whether by receiving a small salary or by getting residuals from a TV show or taking in payments from "best seller" book sales, yes ... ???

I dunno ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/16/2013 10:44:50 am

Jason --

I HAVE commented (above) regarding the character and motives of my long-time friend and professional colleague, Scott Wolter ... which is the topic of the thread, yes ... ???

In addition, I HAVE commented (above) on the content of the "America Unearthed" H2 TV shows and on their slight but genuine utility in encouraging thought about North American history ... Where's the problem ... ???

Can you point me to a particular post which you find objectionable ... ???

Jason Colavito link

9/16/2013 10:52:03 am

Phil, as I have tried to say, this is one blog post (January 21, 2013) out of more than 1,000 blog posts on this website. You repeatedly accuse me of character assassination as though this were the only thing I ever wrote and was not a news story. (If it were not news, then the woman who just got fired for faking her PhD as a "Syria expert" is owed an apology.) I have wrote at great length and substantively about all of the claims on America Unearthed. You can read most of it at the convenient America Unearthed link, and again in my book on the subject. Yet you accuse me of not doing this, as though this one blog post is the sum total of all I have ever done or will do. It was a news story, and any reporter covering the same topic with the same facts would have written the same thing. That I do not discuss it after this thread ought to show you exactly how much weight I gave it in evaluating the program. So, either read my actual criticism of the show or stop talking about what you don't know.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/16/2013 11:10:14 am

Well, yeah ...

MONTHS ago in a very nicely written post (above), Scott Wolter himself addressed your concern and corrected an entirely innocent harmless error ... No Big Deal ...

So you COULD have closed the thread ... THEN ... but you chose -- for whatever reasons of your own -- to leave it open, which by definition invited and allows further and freewheeling comments ... Do you welcome them, or not ... ??? Are comments welcome only when they agree with YOU ... ???

So ... I have engaged ... And as I have noted, my posts have appropriately addressed in general the entire broad question of "Alternative" history of North America ...

Waaaay back in the beginning of my posts in this thread, I indicated that one of my minor degrees is in North American archaeology ... and I posted repeatedly about my bemusement at the long-invoked sacra-sanctitude of the Clovis date ... and the FACT that such closed-minded dogma indicated that, yes, there IS a general problem to be addressed and that the "America Unearthed" H2 TV shows DO encourage fresh thinking and RE-examination of supposedly SETTLED questions ...

That's where I am coming from ... ALONG with my spirited and indeed RELENTLESS defense of the essentially honest character of my personal friend and professional colleague, Scott Wolter ...

If you don't LIKE that ... it is YOUR problem, not mine ...

Jason Colavito link

9/16/2013 11:15:36 am

So, let me get this straight: If I close the thread, I'm censoring comments that don't agree with me, but if I leave it open I'm encouraging people to pile on. So I can't win?

As it happens, I can't control individual blog posts' comments. Weebly's web tools only allow me to close no threads or all threads or all threads after 60 days. So, I leave them all open for visitors to comment on. But unless you have some intention of engaging with the material on the rest of this website, I ask to you to refrain from accusing me of ignoring the substance of his show or for suggesting I have an obsession with his erroneous claim of a degree. I'm not the one making my few paragraphs of a news story into a year-long world-defining event. As I said, I don't talk about it on this blog except where comments on this very thread have forced me to do so. In short: If you leave the thread alone, it will die of its own accord.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/16/2013 11:24:52 am

Ummmm ...

Lately, I have posted only in response to others' posts ...

So ... Yeah, I am sure that when NOBODY posts anything here anymore ... nothing new will happen here ... (duh) ...

But as long as the character of my long-time personal friend and professional colleague, Scott Wolter, is held *out*there* for public ridicule ... then ... yes, I will continue to defend him ... in this public form, which YOU have graciously provided ... WITHOUT fully endorsing the specific particular content and conclusions of the TV shows which he hosts on the H2 channel ...

terry the censor

9/16/2013 04:02:38 pm

> as long as the character of my long-time personal friend and professional colleague, Scott Wolter, is held *out*there* for public ridicule ... then ... yes, I will continue to defend him

Phil, give it a rest. You are just repeating yourself to no good end.

You refuse to acknowledge Wolter's fraud as such -- we get it!
You think fact-based criticism is mere character assassination -- we get it!
You feel your false sense of victimhood is actually noble -- we get it!

You are just a crank now trapped in a delusion. Or can you move on?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/16/2013 04:06:37 pm

Yes, I agree that it is time to *move*on* to something other than snarky comments about Scott Wolter's degree ...

Ummm ... But, no ... I have NO "victimhood" here ... Where do you get THAT ... ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/16/2013 04:06:43 pm

Yes, I agree that it is time to *move*on* to something other than snarky comments about Scott Wolter's degree ...

Ummm ... But, no ... I have NO "victimhood" here ... Where do you get THAT ... ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/17/2013 02:30:58 am

But, again ... Okay ... Let's discuss THE SHOWS ...

The H2 Channel TV shows ... ARE just TV shows ... As such they are of uneven quality, and of course as commercial TV products, they are put forward in order to induce the viewers to watch the adverts placed by the commercial sponsors ... They are NOT PBS ...

But they are interesting not least because they go mucking around in remote places, in forgotten museum collections, into obscure possibilities for re-evaluating what we THINK we know about North American history ...

Jason Colavito link

9/17/2013 02:36:12 am

If you want to discuss the shows, I have reviews of each episode, and you are welcome to comment there. This blog post is not about the shows and has never been. Since you are very eager to discuss the episodes, I suggest you begin commenting there where such posts would be on topic and relevant.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/17/2013 03:24:56 am

My interest -- as you know or have reason to know by now -- is about the question of alternative history in general, IOW, the meta-topic of the H2 America Unearthed TV shows ...

Jason Colavito link

9/17/2013 03:36:22 am

So, you're saying you've really read absolutely nothing else I've ever written. Otherwise you'd notice that the social and cultural aspects of alternative history is the MAIN TOPIC I discuss on this blog, in my books, and in my published articles. Try moving beyond this one blog post, which you have obsessed over for nine months.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/17/2013 03:46:51 am

I have no idea where you got THAT notion ... I have in fact googled up -- and read -- the other blogs you have put up regarding the America Unearthed shows ...

But ... as should be obvious to you by now ... indeed I am NOT a devotee of any of the fringe stuff ... OR of the equally oddly driven debunkers ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/17/2013 03:49:25 am

BUT ... LOL ... I am bemused by for near simultaneous command ordering me to be quiet and go away ,,, but then also responding to my posts ... I dunno ...

Jason Colavito link

9/17/2013 04:00:15 am

I didn't order you to be quiet or to go away, only to stop repeating the same point over and over again. We've all read it and you've had your say on that point.

If you'd like me to ignore you in the future, that's fine. I'd be happy to.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/17/2013 04:07:35 am

Ummmm ... But, see ...

When you put up a blog for public attention and participation ... you ought not be shocked at the result, eh ... ???

Fast Kat

9/17/2013 08:10:46 pm

This blog cracks me up. Academia that's never left their labs or class rooms and rely on facts from the Internet. Everyone knows that if its on the web it's 100% true. The alphabet soup that follows your name doesn't make you intelligent, inquisitive. Get in the field and let your facts do the talking, not your ego.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/18/2013 05:28:10 am

And the FACT is that waaaaay back in January, Scott Wolter wrote a very gracious thoughtful post that *cleared*up* an innocent harmless misunderstanding about his "honorary Master's Degree" ...

But for whatever reason, the (semi)professional bloggers have gotten tons of kicks and jollies from keeping on keeping on making a mountain out of a mole hill ...

*whatever* ...

Bimmerella

9/19/2013 08:26:21 pm

Phil, your comments quit being relevant a loooong while back. Look, I hear what you are saying. You have said it again and again, except started directly goading those who don't agree with you, as if somehow getting them to engage would automatically make them wrong and you right. Let me just break it down for you. You say you are a friend of Wolter, (unproven, just take your word for it), you say because you have known him you know he is honest and wouldnt mislead...again asked to go on your word against evidence to the contrary. Is it becoming clear to you now, why I am completely unimpressed with any of your arguments? Do you understand how pointless they are as long as all you ask us to go on is nothing but your story? This blog, and the people on it, come here interested in facts, what constitutes fact, and what doesn't, and why we agree or disagree. I'm feeling good that the EVIDENCE shows Wolter was willingly misleading about is credentials, and as far as science goes, its pretty important you represent yourself correctly. I read Wolters nice little note to Jason....and it did not leave me feeling any better about the misrepresentation. In fact I found it to be incredible that something like this story would ever be put on paper its so silly.
I understand you defending your pal, but honestly the only thing you have managed to do here is make a troll of yourself. Its what happens when you haven't succeeded in winning the argument, but just can't accept it. I hope Wolter at least knows what a loyal friend he has in you.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/20/2013 11:09:11 am

Ummmm ... Yeah ... well ...

Obviously, I CANNOT offer an "argument" that would convince a hostile critic that in fact, Scott Wolter IS a personal friend and professional colleague of mine for 25+ years, whom I KNOW from real life experience to be an essentially honest person ...

So ... *whatever* ...

Bimmerella

9/18/2013 09:26:31 am

Jason,
Thanks for this blog. I think he one thing that you have managed to prove here, is holy crap....TROLLS ARE REAL!!!! Keep up the good work bro. Btw....your research speaks for itself. No need to engage trolls.

Jason Colavito link

9/18/2013 09:55:34 am

Thanks! Somehow I only manage to get trolls, never leprechauns. I'd rather have a pot of gold than a pile of............

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/18/2013 10:21:52 am

LOL ...

"Yes, Virginia ... There ARE 'trolls' ... who love to spend month after month and one post after another ... insisting that a mole hill is a mountain worth climbing ..."

Bimmerella link

9/19/2013 08:41:46 pm

Wow........irony much??? Lol Jason, you have said all that need be said. I'm heading over to check out some other discussions you have posted. As for you Phil....agree to disagree. Much better things to discuss. Like how weak the proof is for Jesus....Kisses!!!!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/20/2013 11:05:23 am

"Bimmerella" (whoever you are) ...

Hugs and kisses to you too, buddy ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/18/2013 04:32:52 pm

See ...

I have followed with *passing* interest through the years some various "debunking" movements and their cult leaders ... and find their entire enterprise to be a fascinatingly mirror image of the very *others* that they are so DEDICATED to "debunking" ... !!!

It's bemusing ...

Scotty Roberts link

9/22/2013 12:59:26 pm

Just to openly kiss some ass, here... while I do not agree with everything Jason writes or expresses, I like him and respect him.

I also know, like and respect Scott Wolter.

Both of you keep up the work you feel led to do.

Cheers!
Scotty

russ

9/27/2013 06:55:04 pm

Way too many comments to read the entire litany, but I would like to poin out 3 things about Mr Wilted, his work and his profession...

1. Scott proved the medieval Northern European origin of the carvings on the Kensington Rune Stone, which is possibly the most significant historical find since the discovery of the Rosetta Stone. Say anything you like about his attitude, his methods or his conclusions, but it's hard to argue with success.

2. Although both are legitimate sciences, if either is closer to a pseudo-science, given the radical changes in methods in it's limited history and the sheer number of times that established conclusions have been proven false, it's archaeology, not geology.

3. I've seen every episode of America Unearthed, and I've never noted Mr. Wolter to be the least bit arrogant or hypocritical. He points out historical conslusions that he believes are wrong, presents the evidence as he sees it and offers his expert opinion. He always states that they're his opinions. What's wrong with that?

Mr. Wolter, if you read this post, I'd like to offer you 3 thoughts to consider....

1. Although it's not in America or even related to America, I would love to see your show tackle the geological evidence of post-carving, long-term water erosion on the Sphynx in Egypt, which, if true, would make the monument over 10,000 years old and not a product of the construction making up the great pyramid complex, which is aapproximately 3,000 years old. Recent discoveries in Turkey would certainly suggest that carving on that scale was possible 10,000 years ago, nd Egypt's tendency to repurpose monuments in the first 3 dynasties would seem to lend legitimacy to the thought that the Sphynx could be much older and was just something else prior to the carving of the face.

2. With thr resources and the weight of the History Channel behind you, I think it would be great if your show could be the first allowed to investigate the so-called "secret vault" carved into Mount Rushmore, behind Washington's face.

3. Having just watched your show's season finale on demand, I think you may have overlooked something in New Ross. You concluded that either the Templar Knights, or someone else, had excavated and subsequently back-filled the chamber. But the drilling team kept hitting stacked/layered boulders at almost exactly 15 feet. I think they were hitting the roof of the chamber, which may be vaulted or arched for added stability. I think the chamber - and possibly the contents - may be intact in that location. I think the area needs to be excavated, not drilled.

Thanks for listening,

Russ Adams

Russ Adams

9/27/2013 07:09:32 pm

Sorry for the typos in my post. I was commenting from my new phone and I haven't quite mastered the quirks of this model's autocorrect yet.

Russ

CFC

9/28/2013 11:22:40 am

Regarding your #1 above Russ, there continues to be many questions about the Kensington Rune Stone that call into question its authenticity. If Mr. Wolter had confidence in his evidence about the KRS then he would have written a scientific paper and put those claims to the test in a manner that can be reviewed and verified by the scientific community. He has failed to do so and will continue to be heavily criticized, as he should be.

The topic of this string is about the "non- existent degree" and faking of information on his resume. This is unacceptable and warrants no further discussion. It’s just plain WRONG!

His claims that he has proven the KRS to be a genuine medieval artifact are as false as his fake degree.

Scotty Roberts link

9/28/2013 04:18:39 pm

CFC, you said:
"If Mr. Wolter had confidence in his evidence about the KRS then he would have written a scientific paper and put those claims to the test in a manner that can be reviewed and verified by the scientific community. He has failed to do so..."

I don't think that writing a scientific paper for peer review is the necessary outcome of having confidence in your evidence.

As for Wolter's degree, I think he addressed that pretty clearly very early on in more forums than this one. It all goes back to what you want to believe about someone.

Its easy to call someone a "fake" or a "fraud" on a social network or a blog. People used to do that to people's faces, now they don;t have when there are so many band wagons to hop up on.

CFC

9/29/2013 01:47:26 am

Regarding the "non existent degree" - I realize he'll continue to get some support from individuals who don't value telling the truth, but his explanation is a big joke to the professional and academic community including those at the University of Minnesota.

Those who seek the truth in science have the confidence to test their theories using the scientific method. It's clear that he refuses to do that.

Ge Ki

9/29/2013 02:44:31 am

So Scotty, since you claim that Wolters "addressed pretty clearly" why it was OK for him to claim that he has an honorary degree, then you buy the whole "whipped-cream-topped coffee equals an honorary degree" thing?

Russ Adams

9/29/2013 02:04:53 pm

Jesus CFC, get over yourself....

We're taking about an honorary degree from 1987. Who gives a shit? If it's real, it means nothing anyway (see, that's what "honorary" means). So, by extension, if it's fake it doesn't really matter either.

I'm sure that the truth lies anywhere in between. They could have told him they were giving him the honorary degree and subsequently didn't. Who knows?

His degrees in geology and engineering are very real and he has 3 decades of work to consider since then.

I graduated from college 15 years after Scott did. Nobody cares about my degrees. They make sure I have them, sure, but after that the focus shifts entirely to my body of work.

And, by the way, people with masters-level credentials don't write scientific papers. Nobody does really unless they're seeking tenure or funding. Since Scott isn't seeking either, why would he write a paper.

And you're very, very wrong. In a field like geology you are absolutely considered an expert, and a scientist, even with just a lowly bachelor's degree.

Hell man, the whole first generation of archaeologists who gained notoriety and scientific acceptance were privately funded and/or independently wealthy adventurers. If they had degrees at all they were in the liberal arts!

And here's a clue for you that you're not dealing with someone with letter salad behind their name..... It's that word (forensic).... Most forensic accountants aren't CPA's. Most forensic examiners at police departments aren't MD's or PhD's - they're usually holders of a bachelor of science, just like Mr. Wolter.

Take his theories into account or disregard them, whatever you like, but give up on the douchey slander campaign because the guy shares his OPINIONS and presents EVIDENCE and tells you what he THINKS - it's all open for debate. He's interesting, he's informative, he's entertaining and that's all that matters.

That's why Scott Wolter has a show on the History Channel and you don't. Because I read your posts and you state lots of opinions that you insist are fact and you're anything but interesting.

Ge Ki

9/29/2013 03:31:27 pm

Russ - First, you focus on whether or not his degree is real, as if it's the degree that matters. It's not. Again, for the millionth time, it's the fact that he lied about it. I base this assessment on his own words and his own actions. He said he had one, but he didn't. You base your statement that "the truth lies anywhere in between" on imagination. There is no reason to think that the truth lies anywhere except in his words and actions. To believe that whipped-cream-topped coffee constitutes an honorary degree is ludicrous.

Your claim that an honorary degree is "meaningless" is likewise wrong. It does mean something, which is why Wolters himself says he was "quite proud" of it. It means that the recipient has achieved something exceptional.

Your statement, "Nobody cares about my degrees. They make sure I have them, sure...." supports the view that it is important to have the degree you say you have. If you lie about it, you don't get hired, and you could quite justifiably be fired. I sure wouldn't trust someone who lied about a degree.

Your claim that "people with masters-level credentials don't write scientific papers" is flatly wrong. Some like to be taken seriously by the scientific community and are anxious to write papers.

Broadly speaking, Bachelor's-level degrees cannot adequately prepare someone to be a scientist. There are exceptions of course. But a person must learn the intricacies of the field AND learn to think critically and impartially in order to properly evaluate their own work and the work of others. This generally requires lengthy exposure to the field, such as one would receive in a doctoral program, and even that only takes you to the first rung of the ladder. If geology is dependent on BS-level people as its scientific brain-trust, the field is in deep trouble.

Forensic accountants, by and large, don't do research. They learn techniques and apply them. They are more like technicians than scientists.

Your statement that "He's interesting, he's informative, he's entertaining and that's all that matters" shows a lack of respect for real science, which is all of those things, plus it's honest.

If someone doesn't have a show, you attribute it to their not being interesting, and to stating opinions as fact. But I'm guessing you don't think that applies to you.

Albert Einstein

11/25/2013 08:51:52 pm

A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new.

Russ Adams

9/29/2013 04:17:50 pm

You don't know that he doesn't. All you know is that the university failed to record it. Colleges give out honorary degrees to everyone of any notoriety that gives them a few bucks or does something for them. And if it didn't happen, you have no idea what transpired behind that.

I have 4 different degrees from 3 different universities, and 3 more professional certifications from 3 more college. I've seen/heard/read about the school I was attending giving out literally dozens of honorary degrees. Would I bet more than five bucks that every one of those was recorded properly? Hell no!

And, again, it's an honorary degree! Other than sentimental value it has no more use or stability behind it than a roll of Charmin. Actually, Charmin would be more useful.

Again, his actual geology and engineering degrees are 100% real and are more than enough to support his title and specialty to anyone. And then there's his body of work, which is all that matters to anyone anyway, except you, but nobody really cares what you think as long as you get our oil changes done fast enough.

You're doing all the very things you fault Scott Wolter for, the most basic and frequent thing being assumption making.

Russ Adams

9/29/2013 04:24:00 pm

Besides, if his experience and credentials didn't pass the sniff test, he wouldn't have gotten a publisher. Publishers thoroughly vet non-fiction authors.

Jason Colavito link

9/29/2013 11:27:43 pm

Scott Wolter self-published his Kensington Rune Stone book and worked with a small publisher for his current book only after he became host of America Unearthed, the show being his credential. As an author, I can tell you that no one did a background check on me before publishing my books.

Russ Adams

9/29/2013 04:26:33 pm

That is, of course, unless he qualified his conclusions by saying "here's what I think and why I think that.". Oh, wait, he always has.

Ge Ki

9/29/2013 05:10:31 pm

By "You don't know that he doesn't," I assume you mean "doesn't have an honorary degree." Have you read his own explanation? Because if you haven't, it's great for a laugh. His "certificate" was a cuppa coffee. So you think it's just by accident that the university doesn't have a record of that? How far do you think it's reasonable for us to contort our logic, to force ourselves to buy into that pile?

And again, it's an honorary degree. Not everyone has one. There is some selectivity and honor associated with it. They aren't conferred with cuppa coffees.

Again, it doesn't matter that he has a real degree of some other kind. What matters is he lied about having an honorary degree. And lying matters. To most of us.

As for your statement, "if his experience and credentials didn't pass the sniff test, he wouldn't have gotten a publisher. Publishers thoroughly vet non-fiction authors." Well, that's just adorable. We all know that only honest people get published. Like Rush Limbaugh. Like Glenn Beck. Like climate deniers. Like James Frey and countless other frauds. You could use a bit more training in critical thinking.

Scotty link

9/30/2013 12:34:11 am

Ge Ki,
You dole out the "fraud" moniker far too easily.

Pardon me if I missed it somewhere along the way, but may I ask what credentials YOU bring to the table that have placed you in that lofty echelon of being able to declare that so many others are frauds?

Perhaps if one wants, craves and requires the stamp of approval of the scientific community, they will worry themselves about following the precepts and mechanicians prescribed by that community.

I have had three books published by New Page Books, and - like Jason - no one did a background check on me, either. But I DID have to submit a lengthy proposal establishing my case in each instance, for each book. There were also some ideas of mine that were turned down.Generally speaking, the areas in which I had spent three decades of study and research were the ones that rose to the top for my publisher.

Despite my five years of post-grad education, I have no "credentialed" degree beyond my high school diploma. That, however, has never prevented me from doing the same sort of thesis-type work engaged in by those who completed their degrees. I have no letters behind my name, not even cupcake-and-coffee conferrals that I might refer to as "honorary," but I have certainly done the time.

And where there have been misstatements of my degree(s), I have, like Wolter, also made sure to have clarified.

You are all beating a dead horse. Its a non-issue. Move on to the content of his research and take him to task on his conclusions. The degree thing has been clarified over and over and over again, ad nauseum.

As for frauds, do your homework on what defines and constitutes a "fraud." I once neglected to pay for a candy bar from the local store when I was a kid, that does not make me a thief for life.

Move on to more substantive matter.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/30/2013 03:16:27 pm

Indeed ... Only a FEW are honored by being granted an "honorary degree" ... and only a few are honored by "alma mater" with a full page write-up in the alumni magazine ... and few among us have written several successful books ... and very few host a popular TV show ...

terry the censor

9/30/2013 03:37:19 pm

@ Rev. Phil
> Only a FEW are honored by being granted an "honorary degree"

But not Scott Wolter, right?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/30/2013 04:46:18 pm

I don't have any "honorary" degrees, either ... (do you ... ???) nor have I been written up in an alumni publication ...

I do have a couple of earned degrees ... and course work completed for a second graduate degree ... and additional graduate study and professional training ... and LOADS of real world real life experience ... and some recognized accomplishments ...

One of the important lessons I have learned through the decades ... is to be SLOW and RELUCTANT to judge and condemn ... and to be wary of those who are EAGER to so ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/30/2013 04:46:24 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/30/2013 04:46:32 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/30/2013 02:54:18 pm

Scotty ... You are both wise and kind ... a reasonable person ... I fully agree with you ...

Either "the rubber hits the road" ... or it doesn't ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/30/2013 02:54:23 pm

Scotty ... You are both wise and kind ... a reasonable person ... I fully agree with you ...

Either "the rubber hits the road" ... or it doesn't ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

9/30/2013 02:54:29 pm

Scotty ... You are both wise and kind ... a reasonable person ... I fully agree with you ...

Either "the rubber hits the road" ... or it doesn't ...

Matt

10/2/2013 05:28:58 am

It's clear to this "layman" that the best course forward--for me, personally, LOL-- is some sort of new program co-hosted by Wolter and Colavito. Both seem congenial, personable and professional enough with each other, and I would personally find their debates about American Archaeology quite compelling. You two guys are different sides of the same coin, and I think that coin is pretty valuable.

CFC

10/5/2013 05:53:45 am

Wolter behaves like a child and throws tantrums when people disagree with him so he wouldn't last 1 minute with Jason Colavito.

I would be in favor of Jason hosting a show that educates people about how programs like American Unearthed, Ancient Aliens, et al misinform students and the public.

Mari link

10/2/2013 09:23:44 am

I just came upon America Unearthed and enjoyed this program very much. As with Science, Scott has the balls to ask the questions about history many of us have questioned in the past but did not ask. So of the remarks and opinions here I find insulting to my intelligence. Pessimism was never are part of true Sceince. Questions to find answers, whether we like them or not, are a part of true Science. How does learning start, but to question. How do we learn, but to as others in the same areas of Science their opinions. I, myself, had 2 degrees, and many many certifications. However, the point of my submission is to say, always read and question for yourselves. Just because you do not like the answer, does not mean you need to defame the writer. Einstein and Hawking both have many more degrees than anyone here. But knowledge and learning is a balance of knowledge gained and formula, and even Einstein was called crazy when he said E=mc squared. Most of the person on H2 and Science Channels are experts in their fields and other studies. How dare you "GOOCH" to even insult the character of someone that is willing to ask experts in their fields for their opinions and to use Science in formulating a hypothasis (sp) with an open mind. Unfortunately, close minded people stop history truths from even being research. Science is an ever growing and ever evolving learning aspect of life. Keep going Scott. Never quit asking the questions we all should have years ago.

Mari

CFC

10/5/2013 05:56:01 am

Science is all about asking questions. No one disagrees with that. But respectfully, the point of this particular posting is outing Mr. Wolter's lies about his credentials.

Edworth Swaim Jr.

10/2/2013 09:27:00 am

Gooch et all :
Scott has at least caught the attention of each of you, as you have posted a comment, positive or negative. WHY ? I think we thirst for the truth, and we have been misled. I think his work is superb, and the questions he poses will instill inquiry for generations. As for divining rods, Gooch, they absolutely work, when wielded by a gifted person, and a believer. Don't discount what you cannot explain, or perform yourself.
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Gregory Donlin

10/3/2013 04:51:24 am

Scott, I enjoy your show! YOU look just like a guy I served in VietNam with in '69 named Tom Wolter....my name is Greg Donlin, and I was in the 101 ABN 1/502 Sept'69-'70. Tom was a very good friend of mine. Please let me know. Thanks, Greg Donlin

Jeff Truitt

10/3/2013 10:21:49 am

Jason,
I feel your attacks are being vented to possibly hide something of yourself. Why are you so bound on kicking Scott? Is it your not on TV? You haven't written a book that anyone would read? Seems that since you feel your so intelligent you would be using your time more productive, doing something helpful.. not bashing a man you dont know.
Scott, you and I have spoke a few times via email, you always have been great to me, answered my questions and given me full respect.
Thank you

Jason Colavito link

10/3/2013 10:28:36 am

So, you're suggesting that 5 books, dozens of articles, 1,000+ blog posts--none of that counts because I wrote one blog post that noted the simple fact that I couldn't confirm a credential Wolter claimed on the radio to have? If you look at the vast amount of stuff I've written--coming up on 2 million words so far--anything personal about Scott Wolter himself amounts to a handful of paragraphs. Yes, it is an endless vendetta.

What, pray tell, do you think I'm hiding?

Scott Lund

10/4/2013 12:40:16 am

Common courtesy to start...You resemble that which you claim against Mr Wolter. You mislead the public with the title to your blog, which I guess means you lie. Your title states degree, not honorary degree, big difference. My immediate thoughts when I read that title in the search descriptions which brought me here, were "Oh no, I like that guy and he is a fraud? No way". So I open it up and see all these tear down opinions of folks that appear to have a need to inflate their own peer rating. Long story short, you got me here with a half truth, now all your blogs are suspect and I expect you to take this article down, and do it now.

Jason Colavito link

10/4/2013 12:45:25 am

Sure, Scott, just as soon as Scott Wolter recants all of the half-truths, mistakes, and false claims he has made about everything from academic conspiracies to global goddess conspiracies. (oh, and his own claim that I am a zealot conspiring against him with a network of anti-Wolter activists.) Nothing in my article is false, and there is nothing misleading about my article. I don't think you can really blame me for what other people chose to post in the comments section of a brief blog post. If that were the case, I have some YouTube videos to show you that will really get your goat.

Ge Ki

10/3/2013 05:17:15 pm

Jeff Truitt, go back to sleep.

Scott Lund

10/4/2013 01:07:19 am

On a company resume Mr Wolter's former employer put some spin on a deserved sentimental honor which he is proud of, ( I would be too) and you and some here act as if he perpetrated a huge hoax and act as if that is credence to negate his work..So he left it on and it may have taken on a larger life that some would like. Lighten up Francis! Also, to bring to light these mysterys that have limited, scattered and hidden evidence is fantastic. So what if there is some conjecture, you all are smart, watch through the parts that are needed to make an hour show on limited avaliable evidence. Then after the show, please enjoy a nice cup of shut the hell up.

Jason Colavito link

10/4/2013 01:12:31 am

You are again confusing me with the comments on this blog post. Did you read my original article? It says nothing about the claims you are attaching to it. Wolter's claims are independent of his education, and I have dealt with his claims about history elsewhere.

I must admit to being confused about why you feel that I need to be held to a different standard than Wolter, that he can offer "conjecture" and "limited evidence" to reach wild conclusions, but that my fact-based reporting is somehow beyond the pale. Why do you think Wolter should be able to say whatsoever pops into his head, but no one else is allowed to voice an opinion?

Scott Lund

10/4/2013 01:28:33 am

You state in your article, "(Interestingly, the 2001 profile also contains Wolter's admission that he had no experience or training in examining ancient stone materials, and that his expertise was largely in scientific testing of concrete.)" I read the profile and missed that admission....Or are you referring to the segway of the author? And how would that be Mr Wolter's admission? (have not been to bed yet, a little groggy, but thank you Jason for responding back and so quick!)

Jason Colavito link

10/4/2013 01:33:04 am

The article states: "They [Wolter's company] most often perform a type of 'autopsy on concrete' by examining failed concrete roads and buildings to determine were the fault lies for the flaw. [...] But the Runestone isn’t made of concrete and when Wolter agreed to conduct tests, he needed some advice."

The author is here paraphrasing Wolter, who is the sole source of for the story. Wolter confirms this himself and expands upon it in his book and in radio interviews (as recently as this year), so it's not like I'm making it up.

scott lund

10/4/2013 01:55:31 am

I do not know yet of the interviews and past "untruths" of which you speak. As stated above, "Note: This post is only about a specific claim Scott Wolter made prior to hosting America Unearthed. so lets stick to the article, actually, I need to go to bed, but...."Most often performs" is not stating nor is it conclusive proof for you to write such a broad statement as "no experience or training in examining ancient stone materials" and then claim that is by his own admission???? Come on, you are guilty of inference to fact here. And yes, work on concrete is not direct work on ancient stones and their writtings, but common sense dictates there is a great deal of carry over on technique and use of equipment.

Jason Colavito link

10/4/2013 02:29:13 am

I hate to sound negative, but you say that your inference, based on "common sense," is correct, while my inference, based on a wide reading of Wolter's work and my own undergraduate work in archaeology is not. Not to mention Wolter's own inferences, based on little more than blind faith in the secret lineage of Jesus.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/4/2013 05:38:31 pm

Indeed ... When Scott Wolter did his VERY thorough studies of the Kensington Rune Stone, he did so as the leader of an entire TEAM of investigators ...

He consulted OTHER experts, thoroughly reviewed ALL previous studies, and followed up from that point ... In the PROCESS of those lengthy and thorough multi-dosciplinary studies, he developed several lines of evidence that all indicate authenticity ...

scott lund

10/6/2013 11:32:50 pm

Jason, my "inference" or common sense is based on fact that undergraduate work in archaeology should have confirmed for you, thereby stopping you from comparing my statement and yours. Fact is some of the same equipment is used between the two, and also technique. That alone as a former undergrad archaeology student should have stopped you from making that broad statement. You stated in this article only that the profile contained this statement of no experience or training. There was no mention in your article of radio interviews, no mention it was formed via your perception of experience concerning Mr Wolter, so basically not based on concrete fact as you would have us infere from your reply, (pun intended) but rather based on assumptive inference. By the way, do you know Cheryl Reitan?

Jason Colavito link

10/7/2013 12:26:12 am

Then ask yourself this, Scott: Would you trust me to inspect your bridge or office tower? After all, I trained on some of the same equipment and have equivalent education.

I've never heard of Reitan.

scott lund

10/7/2013 01:31:31 am

You have never heard of her? Then other than the things you never mentioned in your article, how would you know her writting style and that when she says Mr Wolter "needed some advice," what she really meant by that was he is admitting he has no experience or training. That is a pretty clear conection of fact there. In case you missed it, Cheryl Reitan is the author of the profile in your article, but you knew what I meant, so I digress.

scott lund

10/7/2013 01:52:10 am

If you were president and managed a huge company that dealt in inspecting something close to bridges or office buildings and brought in 7 experts to assist you to make sure all was done correctly? Hell yes, but I'd still need to see your bid first and you would have to admit that the building or bridge does exist.

Jason Colavito link

10/7/2013 02:16:43 am

Scott, I wrote this blog post almost a year ago. If you think I keep every name of every article writer in my head, I can't. Aside from the comments on this blog post, I can't say I ever give Scott Wolter's credentials a moment's thought.

You missed my point: Just as I am not an expert in bridges and concrete, Scott Wolter is no expert in archaeology. The two fields just aren't that closely related, and Wolter leave a lot out of his "geological" investigations into archaeology that archaeologists routinely consider. But even accepting his dating as true, it does nothing to suggest that goddess-worshiping Templars claimed all of America for the descendants of Jesus. That's not a geological question.

scott lund

10/7/2013 04:21:57 am

No Jason, how could you miss that I did not miss your point, but yet you missed mine. If you as an inspecter equal to Wolters degree of knowledge with what he was facing had 7 experts from various areas? Yes, I would hire you....even if you had 5 experts to assist you, you would get the job. (Of course with 2 experts Mr Wolter would get it )

As to goddess stuff I have no idea of what you mean except perhaps Hebrews under Judah King Josiah stopped worshipping Yaweh's(Gods') wife I think after the 630 BCE...at least that is when her idols are no longer found in the layers escavated now. I have heard of Templars power perhaps comming from their knowlege of a blood line and I think the X hook represents that bloodline as the Holy Grail according to Wolter, but I am not educated there enough as I rarely watch TV ...though last Jan I did watch America unearthed and liked it a great deal.

scott lund

10/4/2013 02:13:58 am

Jason, I apreciate your courtesy to me and the responses. I hope to discuss more another time and perhaps read other articles of yours on this for sure. I have been researching last nights hunt and dig with my daughter for the last 12 hours as we found some sort of runes written around a what appears to be a possible iron meteorite, or forged bloom of steel worked down. I was looking to fing mr wolters email to send an email. Thank you, the profile has that info!

Jason Colavito link

10/4/2013 02:30:29 am

Glad to help.

CFC

10/5/2013 05:25:44 am

Rev. Phil- I'm sorry that you have been so misled by Mr. Wolter about his claims of authenticity. .

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/5/2013 07:36:01 am

How do the lines of evidence NOT indicate authenticity ... ??? Who says so ... ??? You ... ??? On what basis ... ???

Scott Lund

10/7/2013 12:18:33 am

Hey there Rev. Gotsch, I like your tenacity! I have read many of your posts and enjoy them.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/9/2013 10:00:16 am

Scott Lund ... Thank you for your compliment ...

As one who is actually trained and experienced in the natural sciences, I get weary*weary*weary of snarky comments from lightweight guys who THINK they are the reincarnation of Carl Sagan or Bertrand Russell ...

scott lund

10/9/2013 11:52:28 pm

Guilty myself! I used to think I was helping and hated anyone to leave our conversation without seeing the, "according to me," right info. Then I friend very honestly told me how I came across like I thought I was better than others, Sure opened my eyes as that was not my intent, perhaps showing enthusiasm and trying to hard for respect at times, but never an intended overbearing braggart. I'm much better now....(crap, I just did it again didn't I?)

scott lund

10/10/2013 12:09:08 am

Wow Rev. Gotsch, I did not know you were the Big Cheese on the Marble Cutting board. Thought provoking duality to say the least.

Rev. Phil Gotech

10/10/2013 05:14:39 pm

Scott Lund ...

LOL ... No ... No "big cheese" here ... I would be the big lashing of inexpensive but decent cabernet that goes well WITH the cheese (of any size) ... ;-)

Rev. Phil Gotech

10/10/2013 05:14:46 pm

Scott Lund ...

LOL ... No ... No "big cheese" here ... I would be the big lashing of inexpensive but decent cabernet that goes well WITH the cheese (of any size) ... ;-)

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/10/2013 05:16:12 pm

(ironically, I am enjoying a glas of inexpensive but decent cabernet right now ... )

scott lund

10/11/2013 05:48:40 pm

It would be great if I could share a Goblet of that Humble Soul Cleansing Vintage right now on this fine and beautiful friday night.

scott lund

10/11/2013 06:01:45 pm

lol, Irony is a beautiful thing kind Reverand, some would even value it so much it would appear as if it is Sacred to them. I myself enjoy the word play of it all, but I am no Expert, but greatly Respect Those that are.

scott lund

10/11/2013 06:17:34 pm

I do not think many commenters here Partake of Vine and get fisty from it. I have not read all the comments, but Perhaps 3 Seperate times I have seen Cursing such as o^$x! But, it is not for Me to Call them on It and Share with everyone else.

scott lund

10/7/2013 12:09:52 am

Jason, per your question about reading any of your other stuff I have now. I had no idea you are a professional skeptic, ( One with a vast amount of knowledge I might add). I came here as this article was the third down or so on a Google/Yahoo search for Mr Wolter. I read your bio and looked you up, even watched you youtube. Extremely interesting subject matter. But as to Mr Wolter, I think your NY forward state of mind is confused by MN nice. We are much less direct here in our ways of dealing with people, and some see that as an admission of agreement when in fact we either just do not want to offend, or do not want to waste our own time talking to some dumbass that just wants to hear himself talk.

Jason Colavito link

10/7/2013 12:27:46 am

"Professional" skeptic would imply I get paid to be skeptical; that certainly isn't the case!

scott lund

10/7/2013 01:45:49 am

Well you should get paid. With the knowledge in your head I would bet you could create phenominal characters, storylines and make one of the greatest science fiction novels of all time. Just saying

scott lund

10/7/2013 12:30:23 am

and no the dumbass part was not directed at you, just to be clear.

Ge Ki

10/7/2013 02:41:05 am

Yes Scott, they're so "MN nice" up in MN that they try not to disturb the University administration by making them do things like following accepted protocol for conferring honorary degrees. Instead, they just nicely confer them with cuppa coffees, so people can happily put them on their resumes and nicely mislead the public.

scott lund

10/7/2013 04:37:26 am

Well Ge Ki, it is sooo much more exciting getting that degree in MN now. Last year we got our first taste of that cuppachino stuff ya know, and with that and at least a neat MS degree we get sprinkles.

Michael J

11/25/2013 08:19:27 pm

Get over it and have a cup of coffee .

Martha Crawford

10/12/2013 05:04:31 pm

Scott, I do enjoy your program as entertainment. But as Jason has stated, it is obvious from a scientific viewpoint, your methods and conclusions are deeply lacking. I would enjoy the program more if you really were a scientist and your research was factual rather than SciFi. It does, in fact, cause people to think more. But it also causes some of them to use your claims as bonavfide facts. A dangerous precedent.

Marilynne Rapp

10/12/2013 05:07:48 pm

Scott.
Whether or not your research is conclusive to the scholars of our time doemotion alter. A person with a PHD who instead of

Steve

10/12/2013 09:11:22 pm

Scott,
You were offered a primo opportunity to really unearth history that could be factually verified. I believe you are passionate about your work but you really need to evaluate whether or not you want to end up lumped in the same category as the total buffoons over at Ancient Aliens.
Make it your mission to deliver more serious objective episodes in future and make your mark as a respected scientist rather than a dog and pony show controlled by the network.
Entertainment is one thing. Selling your honor and credibility to the highest bidder is a mistake you will never recover from. Make us believe you because you are right, not because you believe you are right.

Smith Stevens

10/12/2013 09:24:40 pm

Dear 'Scott Wolter' - I put your name in quotes because you have no Twitter, no Facebook, and dare I say I think you are nothing more than a 'Sci-Fi' character... lol - Thanks to Jason Colavito for bringing such frauds to the forefront.

Smith Stevens

10/12/2013 09:36:02 pm

I do need to disagree with the Ancient Alien haters, because unlike this 'Scott Wolter,' the individuals on AA are claimed to be writers unless otherwise noted, they don't claim to have 'honorary doctorates' - they're writers with their own theories.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/13/2013 03:57:30 pm

I'm now waiting ...in breath-less anticipation ... hoping ... for an expose-analysis of "Duck Dynasty" ...

Ge Ki

10/13/2013 04:55:46 pm

"Rev" Gotsch, would you teach kids that it's OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/14/2013 12:11:14 am

Ke Gi --

I had no idea that any of the "Duck Dynasty" guys had made any such claim ...

Ge Ki

10/16/2013 04:53:33 am

You are unable to answer the question. Yet again. That tells us everything we need to know about your standards of truth.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/16/2013 07:35:11 am

"Gu Ka" (whoever you are) --

I teach children that it is a sin to "bear false witness against your neighbor" AND to distinguish between "mountain" and "mole hill" ...

Why do you want to know ... ???

Ge Ki

10/17/2013 01:54:23 am

"Rev." Gotsch: Again, you did not answer the question. The question was not "Would you kindly list some things you would teach children?" The question was, very specifically, "Would you teach children that it's OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree?" And you refuse to answer it, for about the 10th time. It's a pretty straightforward, "Yes/No" question.

scott lund

10/17/2013 02:42:14 am

In speaking with the Ojibwe elders, it turns out they want to honor Ge Ki for his persistance. Hence forth Ge Ki shall be known to the First Nations as "wiin awenen niiwana nibo bezhigooganzhii " or "One who beats dead horse"

Ge Ki

10/17/2013 02:59:51 am

Scott Lund - This horse is very much alive until such time as either 1) It's OK to teach children that it is OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree, or 2) "Rev." Gotsch answers the question.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/17/2013 06:55:03 am

"Ka Gu" (whoever you are) ...

*sigh* ... I HAVE answered your "question" ... You just aren't getting the answer for which you are pfishing ...
Get OVER it ...

Ge Ki

10/17/2013 07:16:20 am

You certainly have not answered it, "Reverend." If you think otherwise, then kindly summarize for me: Since it's a Yes/No question, with elaboration permitted of course, was your answer Yes or No?

scott lund

10/17/2013 08:52:28 am

Well Damn! You must be a horse whisperer then, cause I still see buzzards. Asking a question with an obvious answer repeatedly to somebody that you know knows any definitive acknowledgement of sed question will only further you shoveling shyt on the mole hill? Like I said, looks to me like a horse with no heartbeat......Thought for the Day: If the mountain does not go to Mohammad, get Gi Ke to make one.

Ge Ki

10/17/2013 09:18:39 am

You've been drinking a little too much of the vintage. The answer may be obvious, but "Reverend" Gotsch hasn't yet given it. He'll dance mighty close to it, but he absolutely will not answer it.

scott lund

10/17/2013 10:26:18 am

Drinking a little too much vintage is better than sniffing one's own ether in public. Like it or not, I'll bite on your baited question. I have 5 kids. I have taught each one of them that a lie is wrong and I forbid such behavior. I have also taught 2 of them how to drive and I forbid them to speed in my vehicle and they have agreed. Now, if you would be so kind, please let me ask you a question; If they drive and get a ticket on a friday night for 59 in a 55mph zone, did they break our agreement and would my continued judgement and condemnation for it be justified?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/17/2013 12:43:15 pm

"Ko Go" (whoever you are) --

You used to "water-board" for The CIA ... ???

Ge Ki

10/17/2013 07:06:26 pm

Scott - you did not answer my question. Once again, the question is: Would you teach your kids that it's OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree? That requires a Yes or No, and elaboration thereafter is certainly permitted.

scott lund

10/18/2013 01:26:36 am

To answer your question the way it is stated; of course I would not teach my children that it is OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree. I shall leave out the "but" and the "however" as I think we can agree to disagree, you say outright lie, I say resume embelishment, perception is our truth. Quid Pro Quo on my yes or no question? And of course, embelish at will.

Ge Ki

10/18/2013 04:09:53 pm

scott lund - You seem to be inferring that resume embellishment is OK, and this on the heels of your claim that you would not teach children that it is OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree (resume embellishment). Kindly explain how this is not a contradiction.

As for your kids speeding in violation of your agreement, I cannot say if they broke your agreement or not, as I don't know why they were speeding, or if they even had control over the situation. Were they trying to avoid an accident? Did the car malfunction? I don't know.

Scott Lund

11/4/2013 09:28:45 am

GeeKee, Due to the tone of our dialogue and of course the predictable opportunity of a baited question, I understand why you would not do as you have asked the kind Reverend to do, and that is to answer with a simple yes or no. Either that, or I truly need to apologize for my incompetence of presenting all pertinent facts. My only truth for quarter is that a deficient mind, such one possessed obviously by myself, would have assumed all pertinent information had been portrayed in sed question. Therefore, in being guilty of negligence in not exercising a restraint leaning towards accurate discipline of my grandiose ideation tenable to you to performing such a simple basic task, I digress to properly putting forth my inquiry:

Would a legal verbal agreement between my 21 year old legally licensed son: herein referred to as "John," and myself pertaining to his allowed legal use of my vehicle via the legal permission granted on the condition of no speeding while driving my personal vehicle, witnessed herein by my legally wedded wife who is also conclusively determined to be the biological and legal mother of John, subject of sed agreement, be broken, and would my continued judgment and condemnation for sed offense be justified if : John was to be issued a speeding ticket of 59 mph in a 55 mph zone from a legally retained, on duty, certified and properly trained per all standard requirements of MN law enforcement code and jurisdictional departmental policy, and who without malice or prejudice, determined John's speed with a properly calibrated legal means of determination which has, and is found, to be unascertainable accurate and viable to this particular violation, all being done so while conforming with all pertinent MN statutes having all been conclusively found and determined by appropriate legal means to be in fact constitutional and legally enforceable via any and all courts of law. And all during this time that warranted the citation, John was in the commencement of strictly recreational driving on a peaceful friday evening on a straight unencumbered thoroughfare unaffected by any and all weather conditions, and while doing so, John was also unaffected by any and all external and/or internal distractions and/or factors and/or influences that may cause defensive and/or offensive reactions, in short, John was in complete and competent control of sed vehicle. During this time that warranted the citation let it also be known John was driving via legal and witnessed permission from the legal owner of the vehicle which is appropriately insured and licensed per MN statuettes in which John was covered under the protection of, and conforms to any and all laws pertaining to road worthiness as deemed suitable and enforceable by the State of MN Department of Transportation and all during this time in question, the vehicle was not experiencing any malfunctions. The only subjective influence at the time in question is that John did state he was listening at a reasonable decibelic level, on the standard stock sound system, to some real kick ass Helen Reddy...as stated, subjective influence

Please, at your pleasure, be so kind as to indulge the quarter asked, and quid pro quo respond to the now enlightened preponderance of this peasant with a Yes or a No. Any indulgence of your perceptions and elaborations thereof would be really neat

Ge Ki

11/4/2013 01:48:53 pm

Scott Lund - The answer is 42.

Or to put it another way - Yes, the agreement was broken. No, I don't think he deserves condemnation. He didn't lie, as Scott Wolter did. He didn't try to mislead the public, as Scott Wolter did. He didn't try to sneak something for himself that he couldn't earn honestly, as Scott Wolter did.

Scott Lund

11/4/2013 07:12:49 pm

Thank You for answering straight away. You say that John deserves no condemnation because, as you say, he did not lie as Scott Wolter did. You are right, Mr. Wolter never broke any laws, nor did he violate a legal civil contract in doing that which you judge him more harshly than I. As to John not lying, is not agreeing to the parameters of legal contract and then legally breaking those exact parameters not a lie?
You say he did not mislead the public as someone else did, yet John still conveys to the public that he is a law-abiding citizen and has benefited from others in the public believing that is so, yet he now has indeed broke the law and perhaps in following your lead to judgment, should have to protray himself as a former law-abiding citizen....such as when applying for a job or at any job interview, it would be the right thing to do because to embelish there would be a lie and I as his father may be questioned if I ever taught him not to lie.
You also stated he didn't try to sneak something for himself that he couldn't earn honestly, as someone else did. I think reason would indicate John did not try and get caught speeding and therefore was doing some sort of "sneaking" down the road, and since speed-related crashes cost society over $40 billion annually, according to NHTSA, every minute "gained" by speeding to a destination costs U.S. society over $76,000. Somehow I do not think that John is going to honestly earn that amount for each minute he gained and repay society the money they are out.
My depression is setting in as I realize my own hypocracy...I like you GeKi, do not think he deserves condemnation, yet having taught my son the 10 commandents I reckon I should as he clearly has violated many such as he lied when he said he would not speed, he did not honor his father nor mother in breaking his oath, according to NHTSA John is responsible for $76,000 dollars stolen from society by each minute he gained in this illegal act, and also has participated in a criminal activity that also according to the NTHSA, has resulted in 13,000 lost lives each year. I wonder who those victims would side with, yours and the lack of condemnation for John's act or mine and lack of condemnation for someone elses.
By the way, 42 is the answer if you are counting my spelling errors in this post, if you are not counting errors, then 42 can not be the answer as I was driving my canoe at 55mph when the wheel fell off, but the paddle did not break counting bricks in the Empire State Building leaving the only true answer of..."There are no bones in ice cream"

Michael J

11/25/2013 09:14:36 pm

Did you forget to take your meds ? Maybe you should lie down and put a cold wash rag on your forehead .

Scott Lund

11/26/2013 07:47:39 pm

Hey Michael, please get off my wife's side...

james kennedy

10/16/2013 03:43:12 am

Fact is 90% of American history is either exaggerated , mixed truth and sometimes just plain lies. Anyone who has any experience dealing with those we call professional in the field we refer to as history would know this. History is not always based on fact, its based on who has the most convincing idea about what happened. Scott Wolter is simply weighing some of those stories to see how much sense they make and then giving an opinion on what he thinks. Before you judge him maybe you need to do a investigation of equal time and effort of your own? or what right do you have to say anything against his opinion? Rather than sitting behind that screen all day searching for faults in others to make yourself feel better about your own. Im not a psychologist but its been y experience that those who seek out others problems to expose them have enough of their own to keep them busy.

Jason Colavito link

10/16/2013 03:47:59 am

Who am I? I have a degree in archaeology, have written several books on a range of historical subjects, and have conducted extensive research into the "mysteries" of history. I am "weighing some of those stories" Wolter tells "to see how much sense they make," and they make none. You're welcome to read the more than 2 million words I've written about history to see just how much more effort I put into studying history than Scott Wolter.

Michael J

11/25/2013 09:03:19 pm

You have a Bachelor of Arts degree . Stating what you have done does not tell anyone " who you are " .

Ge Ki

10/16/2013 04:54:35 am

james kennedy - Where do you get your figure of "90%"?

Ge Ki

10/18/2013 03:53:22 pm

james kennedy - I thought so. You have no basis for your "90%" figure.

CFC

10/17/2013 11:39:08 am

Phil,
What are the names of the "entire Team" who will back up your statement that Scott Wolter has proven authenticity of the Kensington Runestone?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/17/2013 11:58:21 am

Read his book ... Scott Wolter researched The KRS for a couple of years both in North America and in Sweden ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/17/2013 01:26:48 pm

Scott Wolter graciously responded to the misunderstanding about his "honorary degree" ... MONTHS ago ...

Let it GO ...

Ge Ki

10/18/2013 03:57:07 pm

Oh sure, Wolters "responded." But did he ever admit he was in the wrong? Ever apologize for misleading everyone? No. Therefore, there is no reason to just "let it go."

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/18/2013 04:35:49 pm

LOL ... Indeed, many people find pleasure in a hobby, and some find fulfillment in an obsession ...

Ge Ki

10/18/2013 05:51:11 pm

LOL away, "Reverend". Your 10 Commandments obviously don't apply to your buddies. Care to answer the question yet?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/19/2013 12:57:55 am

"Go Ko" (whoever you are) --

Get over it ...

Ge Ki

10/19/2013 04:54:27 pm

You wish. But just because you make moral exceptions for your buddies, that doesn't mean the rest of us will.

CFC

10/18/2013 07:01:17 am

Scott Wolter did NOT lead an entire team that supports his claims of authenticity. He's on a self-promotion campaign - not a quest to enhance science or history.

Information he is stating on his radio interviews is also just more of his exaggerated claims. I have no doubt that the truth will be known about him and his lack of credible evidence.

I continue to feel sorry that you are unable or unwilling to face reality.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/18/2013 10:16:02 am

"CFC" --

Re: Scott Wolter's work on the KRS, you do not know whereof you speak ... I DO ... I was *on*the*inside* during his studies and researches -- from the beginning ...

If you have a SUBSTANTIVE comment to make about the errors in his work and conclusions on the KRS ... let's hear them ... or not ...

Andy

10/18/2013 07:23:27 am

Very interesting show that shows the history is not set in stone, remember years ago they taught the world was flat...

I think the show is great it asks questions it may not fully answer them but it opens ones eyes that there maybe something else to learn and we should start to ask questions and look for answers, in one of the posts here someone wrote about it being unbelievable about an englishman in the mountains of america, it was a very interesting story and if the vikings and the irish can sail to America then why not an englishman, however there might be another way on another site i read about the Nazca lines and the possible use of a ballon http://www.nott.com/Pages/projects.php
Is it not possible this might have been how 2 englishmen ended up in America, a ballon can get caught in a slipstream and the persons be carried many miles, hence no record of how they got there or what happened after.
Of course there are fakers out there but it is still an interesting story.

Allways keep an open mind and check things out for yourself its madness to shoot the messenger and ignore the message.

Walter Powell

10/23/2013 05:58:22 pm

Get a life.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

10/24/2013 06:18:21 pm

I agree ... Who has TIME to "study" and then *refute* Odd Claims ... I dunno ... I prefer to spend time with my grandchildren ... *whatever*

jim

11/2/2013 10:00:16 am

Most new ideas are written off as "wrong". Scott , with as many people that you have up in arms, you must be onto something. I for one enjoy your show. Keep them coming.

Ge Ki

11/2/2013 10:43:11 am

Jim - If this blog were about Scott Wolter's show, your comment would be relevant. Jason Colavito has plenty of other pages about those. But this page is about a degree that Wolter lied about having. Your comment completely misses the point.

jim

11/2/2013 11:16:37 am

Sorry, I disagree. If all that people can bring up is an "honorary degree" that is not accurate then Scott's work must be relevant to a point. My comment is accurate for this blog. Proof is in the pudding so to speak. New ideas are always put under scrutiny.

Ge Ki

11/2/2013 12:40:09 pm

Unlike your first comment, your second is relevant, because now you have excused Wolter's lying about his honorary degree. Would you teach children that it is OK to lie about having an honorary degree?

Michael J

11/25/2013 08:45:18 pm

Don`t forget that the 2014 season premiere is Nov. 30 and get your rubber brick ready to through at your T.V.

jim

11/2/2013 11:17:34 am

jim

11/2/2013 01:18:28 pm

This is my point. If what he is saying is "true" and you can't disprove it then you look for anything to discredit him. Do you know the facts of why it is listed or just taking what you read on the internet as fact? Other words , have you talked to him or investigated it yourself?

Ge Ki

11/2/2013 01:40:28 pm

If you'd read the posts above, you'd have seen that Wolter posted his explanation above, and it's laughable. To summarize, he answered some questions to a few faculty members, and they gave him a cuppa coffee that was supposed to signify an honorary degree, and he allowed his employer to put this on his resume as a real honorary degree, and he himself claimed to have such a degree. But you didn't answer my question: Would you teach children that it's OK to lie about having an honorary degree? This need not apply specifically to Wolter.

jim

11/2/2013 02:16:21 pm

I taught my kids there are two sides to every story. Get all the facts before you jump. Now answer my question.

Ge Ki

11/2/2013 03:08:20 pm

OK, to answer your question: Yes, I have investigated it myself. I got a statement from Wolter. It is posted above, and I summarized it for you in my previous posting. As I said above, it is laughable.

You have not answered my question, which is: Would you teach children that it is OK to lie about having an honorary degree? That calls for a Yes or No answer, and then feel free to elaborate if you like.

jim

11/2/2013 01:23:12 pm

Go back and read the blog entry. It states " this is not conclusive". Talking about the research.

Ge Ki

11/2/2013 01:44:31 pm

Jim - See my post above regarding Wolter's own comments earlier on this page.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/2/2013 04:57:05 pm

Learning to distinguish a mountain from a mole hill is an important life skill ...

Ge Ki

11/2/2013 06:16:55 pm

Chalk another robo-post from "Reverend" Gotsch. Still exempting his buddy from his 10 Commandments. And still afraid to answer the question. Here it is again, "Reverend": Would you teach children that it's OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree? You've avoided it at least about 10 times. I predict you'll continue your streak.

Ge Ki

11/2/2013 06:23:44 pm

PS: "Reverend," shouldn't you be working on your Sunday sermon? You surely have many misled and misguided people looking to you for moral guidance.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/3/2013 04:40:05 am

Chalk up another rigid narrow robo-post from "Gi Ke" -- whoever (s)he is …

Did you once work for The CIA, water boarding suspects … ??? LOL ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/3/2013 04:40:45 am

Chalk up another rigid narrow robo-post from "Gi Ke" -- whoever (s)he is … I predict that (s)he will continue her/his streak ...

Ge Ki

11/3/2013 04:51:08 am

"Reverend" - Be original.

Also, as expected, you are still not willing to answer the question.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/3/2013 04:40:52 am

Chalk up another rigid narrow robo-post from "Gi Ke" -- whoever (s)he is … I predict that (s)he will continue her/his streak ...

James Bunch

11/3/2013 07:45:42 am

Jason,
I watched a Scotty program. A quick check revealed his credential. However, as one summa cum laude to another, the granddaddy of bogus documentaries is Leonard Nimoy and his "In Search Of" program. Leonard did not have credentials either, and liked to title shows by ending them with a preposition; that is a curious contradiction. "Could it be that" these programs are entertainment and Scott deserves applause for deriving a paycheck from one of them? Good going Scott, you are a great actor and host. Hope you have enough $$ to go to Jamaica, and have a cool drink on the beach. There might be ancient Celtic clues there. Maybe the drink has Celtic origins. I think your best credential is your rugged looks, beefcake. The rest of you might have been better word smiths, IMHO. Jason, you are doing alright too. You are getting good mileage from your BA. However, your looks are not competitive with Scott's. I am entertained by all, if not a little weary of the pretentious banter.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/3/2013 08:46:36 am

Yes … From long association I know that Scott Wolter is a very nice guy, a charming social companion, and an engaging partner in conversation and investigation ...

Ge Ki

11/3/2013 10:01:46 am

Great, "Reverend." He's just not honest. Would you teach children that It's OK to lie about having an honorary degree?

Ray

12/6/2013 12:30:44 am

Great! Then maybe you can tell us what his "archaeopetrography" consists of and how it can be used for dating objects? Wolter doesn't seem to be forthcoming about it and the method doesn't seem to have made it into any scientific journals. Your association with him should make you an ideal source for this info.

Waiting with anticipation!

Ray

12/6/2013 12:30:51 am

Michael J

11/25/2013 08:32:29 pm

Now James why don`t you put your " big boy " pants on and deal with it . If you don`t like the show you don`t have to watch it . There is this thing called a remote control and learn how to use it .

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/3/2013 10:10:08 am

"Be Ge" (whoever you are) … I teach Children to be both CAREFUL and HONEST in making claims about others … AND to distinguish a "molehill" from a "mountain" … AND not to BULLY others ...

Ge Ki

11/3/2013 10:58:10 am

"Reverend," that doesn't answer the question, which was: Would you teach children that it's OK to lie about having an honorary degree? That requires a Yes/No answer, and then you can feel free to elaborate if you want.

James Bunch

11/3/2013 01:24:18 pm

Hey Gotsch and Ki, get a room...

I am beginning to see a pattern here. I am thinking Jason has a legitimate desire to debunk; good work Jason. Scott, you have received a lot of free publicity.

Why don't we wrap it up and blog about something we could actually solve: let's discuss global warming and how it will be our eventual doom if we do not get a resort on the Moon that can achieve at least a four star rating and siphon off a few survivors from Earth. Then we could speak to the efficacy of moving all 1%'rs there by offering them free time shares. We could snare them with the obvious fact that it would be impossible to collect taxes from the Moon. I would further elaborate, but there is a pesky Black Helicopter hovering over my house. Not house, I live in a nondescript apartment, I didn't say house. I know nothing about Black Helicopters - or houses. I don't own a phone that the NSA doesn't know about either nor would I ever. Forget I said any thing about a Moon, there is no Moon, and if there were I would know nothing about it. I do not know about those Black Moon space shuttles, nor have I been on one. At least not one that has those weird inspection rooms I have never seen. Although, sometimes I wish I had some Mom to Mom ointment after I haven't been in one.
Is everyone distracted enough to quit hissing and spitting up hair balls? I hope so.

Jason Colavito link

11/3/2013 01:25:57 pm

I would love it if Gotsch and Ge Ki would either stop the tit-for-tat or take their discussion to the America Unearthed thread in my discussion forum. This is obviously no longer a productive discussion.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/3/2013 04:26:22 pm

I fully agree that the exchanges with "Ki Ge" or "Ge Ki" (whoever) have been entirely fruitless ...

Scott Lund

11/4/2013 10:27:28 am

I am just distracted wondering if you are a god, not thee God, but a god sent by our alien bretheren to encompass peace between black helicopters and alien raiding ships...^%$#@.....(sorry for the pause, I am spitting up a hairball.)....that or you are a ruse to deflect attention from the simplicity of they are in fact one and the same...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/4/2013 02:20:51 pm

LOL …

Well … in one of the (IMHO) GREATEST movies ever made -- "Groundhog Day" -- Phil Connors tells Rita that HE is in fact, a "god" -- not THE "God" -- but A "god" …

Rita doesn't believe (in) him of course ("This is twelve years of Catholic school talking -- You are NOT a 'god' ..") …

I'm not a "god" either … just a simple and unworthy Servant of The Most High God ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/4/2013 02:20:58 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/7/2013 07:05:49 am

Good …

Apparently we have now arrived at a default tacit agreement to STOP beating the dead (gift) horse and trying to look in its mouth …

Finally ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/7/2013 07:05:56 am

Good …

Apparently we have now arrived at a default tacit agreement to STOP beating the dead (gift) horse and trying to look in its mouth …

Finally ...

Scott Lund

11/7/2013 10:02:26 am

Good! Let's Eat! Horse shall be a welcome change to the crow my wife serves to me daily. But first perhaps say grace and ask that our human perceptions are in fact reality worth sharing or teaching. ( I am serious here, too many times I am guilty)

James Bunch

11/3/2013 02:17:14 pm

OK, will do. See how easy it is to plausibly deny the obviously specious? Jason, I hope you are taking notes. My suggestion is that you provide verifiable references for any statements you make while debunking. Just commenting that you talked to someone, inquired, or otherwise checked out a debunking fact doesn't make it so. I think teachers started to get especially stern about that in my Junior year. This would also limit personal bantering within posts. Hope you don't block my further posts. Just trying to help.

Jason Colavito link

11/3/2013 10:31:09 pm

I'm sure you haven't read any of my work, but you will see if you try viewing blog posts other than this one that I provide enormous amounts of documentation for historical facts, documentation that alternative historians fail to provide or purposely hide.

Gina Corsi

11/11/2013 05:28:45 am

Awesome website, Jason!
I was hoping there was a scientific examination of the crackpot theories and outright blarney Scott puts in his show.

I do get more than a whiff of Norse Identity/Aryan theology from him. "All civilization comes from white people".

I always imagine real scientists rolling on the floor at his shoddy scholarship and ludicrous fantasies.

Michael J

11/25/2013 08:22:55 pm

White people ? You are the racists for making such a comment .

duane davis

11/25/2013 08:50:12 pm

I've always found Scott Wolter's show to be entertaining and stimulating. He seems like a guy with a genuine passion for discovery and sharing in an interesting way. When it came to checking out Jason Colavito, I realized that I couldn't care less about who Jason might be or what he has done. As far as this blog is concerned, this is my first and will be my last visit. Some degrees actually represent "something." Others are just fluff, whether "official" or not. Will Scott find "the Grail"? I hope so.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/26/2013 03:16:30 pm

It seems to me that some of the most vocal critics of Scott Wolter are simply jealous that HE is a TV show host … and they're NOT ...

terry the censor

11/26/2013 07:18:52 pm

> the most vocal critics of Scott Wolter are simply jealous that HE is a TV show host

you misspelled "offended" -- it doesn't start with a J

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2013 01:59:56 am

LOL … Interesting thought -- a NEW term combining feelings of both "jealousy" and being "offended" … "offended" … ??? "lousy offended" … ??? "lousfended" … ???

Craig Eubank link

11/27/2013 07:53:10 am

Being a fellow treasure hunter/underwater archeologist I understand that our mission is to question and hypothesize. Always questioning the status quo. Most of the time, things are not as they seem. It takes courage to take on academia. In other words, stick you head above the crowd and you will catch a few tomatoes... Rock on. Craig at AbsolutFishingKeyWestdotcom.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2013 12:44:50 pm

Yes … infamously, "The 'nail' that sticks up tends to get 'hammered' down …"

Becky Plumlee

11/28/2013 12:46:12 pm

OMG, I can't believe all the comments, I happen to like Scott Wolter and America Unearthed, whether fact or fiction, it would be my choice to watch when so much of all the programs are reality shows which are mostly just plain stupid.

Notyrmma

11/28/2013 06:15:53 pm

The show has an interesting premise, much like any mockmentary. I wish it was based in truth. But after one viewing I see that Wolter is nothing more than a ripoff of Indiana Jones and lacks any scientific background or ability. I'm a bit miffed that the History channel is passing this off as some kind of real research. They should be embarrassed. I'm embarrassed for them.

Paula Kruschke

11/28/2013 06:21:15 pm

Wow. I am astonished at the purely passionate negativity on this entire subject. What started as a "tattle-tale" blog message, clearly designed to voice his negative opinion of Mr. Wolter for the world to see, while showing true selfishness, immaturity, and egotism, for whatever his purposes, brought out the most dysfunctional, meaningless, and convoluted crap from alot of people. You are truly a masterful writer, shown through the pure evidence of the "followers" you have attracted.

I personally choose to roll with the "leaders" who posted, offering positive and open-minded opinions, support, and kept themselves level-headed without feeling the need to put down others or one-up anyone.

I don't care about Mr. Wolter's education, background, personal preferences, etc. as it relates to History Channel choosing HIM to host America Unearthed. I feel the start of this whole discussion is jealousy-driven, attention-seeking, and narcissistic.

Quite simply, would History Channel, an incredibly popular and credible major network, chose a person to host a show without fully knowing that person's background for the purposes they need? Personally, I've not witnessed the History Channel to make poor choices in casting. They have a pretty good success rate actually.

Bottom line is, Mr. Wolter's was chosen by the History Channel network for America Unearthed. Period. He did not need to be chosen by YOU, does not need to answer YOU, or explain to YOU anything. If you don't like it, want to argue, fine. I would diagnose the basis of the start of this whole blog as coming from someone with a very Narcissistic Personality Disorder and you might want to take some of this time you've expelled in trying to bring someone down to perhaps take a good look at yourself.

Paula Kruschke

terry the censor

11/28/2013 07:09:18 pm

@Paula Kruschke

Facts don't matter, eh? That's for negative people? Rhetoric is how you "roll," eh?

Loud and clear.

Jason Colavito link

11/28/2013 10:37:35 pm

The H2 channel did not select Mr. Wolter. They purchase the program from a production company called Committee Films, which selected Mr. Wolter because he had been a longtime friend of the company's owners, and by selecting a Minnesota-based personality, the company qualified for tax breaks. H2 told me it does not conduct background checks on the personalities from programs produced by outside companies.

Paula Kruschke

11/29/2013 04:21:44 am

Mr. Colavito, thank you for the response. It's interesting. With all this information about a licensure on top of Mr. Wolter's degree, and lack of additional education, why does the H2 Channel continue to air America Unearthed if the "truth" has now come to light? I can only believe it's due to the fact that the show is still indeed interesting and appealing to an audience, regardless of credentials or how the host of the show was incurred. Regardless, I still don't care much about how or why Mr. Wolter's ended up with this show on H2, I still find it to be an interesting show. Will we ever really know the truth about a history altering conspiracy? Will we ever really know the truth behind everyone who claims to be something they are not on TV? Will we ever know what exactly the government is hiding and has mapped out for our eventual future? I don't know, but all of this drama makes for a much more interesting plot thickener within what us American's are used to being exposed to, and crave, due to media conditioning. It's actually all quite brilliant.

Paula Kruschke

11/29/2013 04:32:31 am

Paula Kruschke

11/29/2013 06:30:37 am

I just wanted to add another point. I am over-educated for the work I do and have done in my career, but my jobs have paid quite well for me and have been satisfying. I can honestly say that my degree has not earned me any of my promotions. What has earned me promotions has been paying attention, my own drive, learned experience, sprinkled with "who you know." I think anyone who has drive to succeed uses these tools to their advantage, whether they lie, step on toes, take undue credit, etc. In the end, it's about learning that business so much so, that you know exactly what to do to work your way up. You learn how to manipulate what will work in your favor, if you're driven to a goal. I actually see nothing wrong with this type of leadership, it is really a technique used by most to thrive and grow their career. While this may not be written somewhere, it is factual in my experience and observations. Does it have to be a dog eat dog world always? No, but the meek, diligent worker who plugs away at their job, perfectly, and quietly, most of the time, not always, goes unnoticed. You have to take chances, make yourself known, take advantage of opportunities that may not be perfect or what makes everyone happy, but lead you in the general "upward" direction. These are tools not taught to us in school or college, professors who have even participated in these strategies have not taught me this, yet this is an important part of career success in life. And I would guess that almost anyone in a position of power has employed these techniques to a certain extent to further their goals. I say kudos to those who have sacrificed, stuck their necks out, worked hard, and used their skills to reach their goals, in whichever manner caused them to get there. Be proud of your journey. Since it is likely that these words will be used against me, I want to clarify that while there are those who use a vindictive process for success, there are also those who, while still employing some manipulation, are smart and savvy enough to realize that there is an art form to this process in which no one gets hurt by it, in fact, you empower or inspire others through your actions. Whatever someone has done to bring them to their goal, they have "earned" this met goal through hard work, knowledge, and still you are not "given" these opportunities completely by "who you know." You still have to convince "who you know" why you are the "one" they should choose. You can't do this without a great deal of knowledge and hard work, and although it may appear to be an opportunity where one did not rightfully earn their place, you can bet they did indeed work hard to "earn" their place, whether education is involved or not. For those who cannot relate to my experience and opinion, that's fine, but truly, I do not question much of how someone is where they are in their life as I have not walked in their shoes. That type of scrutinization is a waste of my own energy and is irrelevant in the long run. I find that when I've scrutinized someone, such as in my previous and fairly negative posting (which I admit my contradiction of wording from that post to this), I am not doing justice for myself and it does not earn me any type of happiness or growth. In Mr. Wolter's case, the world gets to see his work-to either believe in his message, analyze, pick apart, or plain enjoy his work, which is what entertainment is all about. I say congratulations to him for earning his place in society, and also, I guess some Minnesotans are driven to expose the "truth" to the public when it comes to conspiracy theories. Whether these stories are hogwash, it makes for good entertainment, and Mr. Wolter's personality naturally, in my opinion, is a natural at captivating an audience's attention and I'm glad he ended up in the entertainment industry. However it happened, I enjoy the tales and his demeanor. And also, I have enjoyed the entertainment of this blog. Thank you.

Paula Kruschke

11/29/2013 07:05:08 am

Sherrie Dobbie

11/30/2013 06:12:00 am

Mr. Wolter, I don't know what your degree is. I don't believe that you would publish something so easily proven to be false. I wanted to thank you for a dynamic show and to say that if humans would open up their stale minds, they might just learn something about a history of man and lands which is so elusive in so many ways.

I wish you continued success. I like your style.

Marie

11/30/2013 09:13:59 am

I cannot understand this whole comment section..I did not read everything but find it so sad that all of these people somehow feel their responsibility to prove & spend so much time to tear down an individual..maybe we should inquire as to their accomplishments in life that makes them feel qualified to do so..I, for one, like to think I have an open mind to all the wonders of the world..I enjoy this program & will contine watching..I have questions about so many things..who knows, maybe he will answer some of them for me.who am I to say he is wrong.

Mark Sosebee

11/30/2013 12:50:27 pm

Looks to me as if someone has gotten bitten by the jealousy bug! Why would anyone as stated above go looking for reasons to tear someone down? "I'm smarter than he is, I have a degree, he doesn't" When in the back of your mind your really saying "Scott Wolter shouldn't be on that show, I should". Well, it looks as if the production company thought he had what it took to get the job done and from what I have seen ALL DAY watching every show, he certainly has the credentials for the job. Only a negative person can find negative in everyone else. Start looking at some of the good things he has brought into question. I love the show and no matter what I find it very entertaining. Keep up the GOOD WORK SCOTT!

Paula Kruschke

11/30/2013 04:21:51 pm

I actually just got a chance to read ALL posts in your blog, Mr. Colavito, and what a successful outcome! Again, this blog has been extremely interesting to review and participate in and I thank you for this topic which has been entertaining.

Reverend Gotsch, I am pro-Mr. Wolter also but, I am truly baffled by the extent of your own public behavior in the purposes to defend one person-friendship aside. I am offended that a man of God could be so judgmental of others, unkind, employing name calling, and immaturity, regardless of your reasoning. You accused others of not having an "open-mind" while it is evident that you could not see past your own "closed-mind." I really don't want to disrespect you, and I realize my concerns in this area are not related to the topic of this post but, I felt compelled to ask you to please refrain from the type of behavior that I certainly would not expect from a religious figure while we teach our children that religious figures are to be treated with respect and that they are here to kindly deliver to us God's messages. We tell our children that you can talk to a religious figure about anything bothering you because they do not judge you, only God can do that. They care about each and every person just as God does... You really blew me away and made me come very close to saying "screw donating to the church if this how you spend your time and what you are truly about." Seriously, I wanted to agree with your arguments so many times but found myself too appalled and it felt so immature. I understand passion for a friend, but as I said above... Rise above it, please.

Paula Kruschke

11/30/2013 04:24:29 pm

Paula Kruschke

11/30/2013 04:25:58 pm

Paula Kruschke

11/30/2013 04:29:06 pm

Paula Kruschke

11/30/2013 05:10:49 pm

Paula Kruschke

11/30/2013 05:11:10 pm

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/1/2013 01:45:24 am

Paula … I honestly have no idea where in my comments your find me engaging in "name calling" …

I have merely -- properly -- defended the character of my friend and professional colleague … Why you object to that is beyond me ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/1/2013 05:17:07 am

Paula … A bit more … BTW, my posts in this blog forum have been short and sweet, are done on my own time, and don't take much time to write …

Paula Kruschke

12/1/2013 05:50:11 am

Rev. Goctsh,

I was hoping you would see my message to you differently, but just to respond to the "name calling" area: there is a blogger who's name you attacked as perhaps "Vulcan." That's truly all I wish to engage in any further on this subject as I feel it is inappropriate in this blog and is also pointless.

Thank you.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/1/2013 08:43:36 am

LOL … I don't recall having made that tongue*in*cheek comment … Was that made to "Ge Ki" (or whatever the moniker is) … ???

In any case … Lighten up … Okay … ???

Paula Kruschke

12/1/2013 05:50:26 am

Paula Kruschke

12/1/2013 05:51:25 am

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/1/2013 10:19:36 am

Paula … I agree with you that this blog -- HUNDREDS of entries engaging in relentless unnecessary character assassination -- IS finally pointless …

Nearly a full year ago, Scott Wolter himself apologized for a harmless misunderstanding about his "honorary Master's Degree" and no longer lists it … One MIGHT have expected his gracious and responsible response to have been sufficient …

But … NOOOOOOOO ...

C Isbell

11/30/2013 03:49:31 pm

I find it interesting that I found this website because I was disgusted with Scott Wolter's investigation of the Tucson artifacts. So there I was all angry and moody and thinking about how this guy Scott shouldn't even be allowed on TV (making people believe that these might be genuine). Then I read some posts from the blog. And my son was watching part of one of the episodes. And I read some more the blog. Now I do have to say that we are a huge collection of very opinionated individuals. And after taking all these matters into account, I find that I'm disgusted with all of us. Scott for making an obvious lie about a degree, and ourselves for thinking that we know everything about everything. You see, knowing everything about everything doesn't make you right, it only vindicates what you really want to do, which is, most the time, proving to yourself that you are truly witty or capable of "real thought", even if (hopefully) the thought is in the spirit of wanting to "set things right". - - = = > > So remember folks, that my son has a newfound interest in chemistry and geology, and understands the points that are brought to him about how Scott's results aren't sometimes real. What is the value in that? THAT has real value. It is not that far off from my youngest daughter reading the Capt. Underpants comic and learning how to misspell things in exactly the way they do in the comic. At LEAST she's reading.- - = = > > And also remember folks (and this is a personal tale) that there are some things in this world that nobody can really explain, like water and 100-year-old
pipes, being witch'ed with a simple metal divining rod on my property with 100% accuracy REPEATEDLY(did you know that some Cities employ Water Witchers to find undocumented pipes?). And if I am amazed with such a simple, yet poignant act, what mysteries await me yet. I'll tell you this, I await the future with a wry smile, and a changeable heart. More power to you Scott. More power to you Jason. (Oh, my son wasn't watching Scott when he got his love for chemistry, haha!, but you get the point.) I simply refuse to watch the show anymore.
LOL

Frederick

11/30/2013 03:55:31 pm

Jus watched this show this evening. Scott's quest starting in Ireland at Tata Mount. In reviewing the possible Stone of Disteny in Virginia, reference is made to it having been a gift to the orginal land owner by Johnathan Swift.. But Swift never visted America. He lived in Ireland or England his intire life. Rather than collect sand stone form the Middle East, Scott only need to check on Swift's life. The Irish Stone of Disteny on which the High Kings were crowed had nothing to do with any artifact brought there by a Queen, I refer you to the Hill of Tara webpage. (by the way I have visted Tara, and there are no references there to the stone of disteny as proposed by Scott. Some Brits did dig up the Mount in the late 1800 based on rumors.

Ray

11/30/2013 08:07:52 pm

As a former geologist, I have to say that I have no idea what a "forensic geologist" is. And I have never, ever heard anyone describe themselves as such. If anyone knows, please tell me how one gains the designation... other than simply bestowing it upon himself as a made-for-TV title?

And before anyone gets themselves lathered up about it, yes, historical geology is forensic by nature, but no geologist calls him or herself a "forensic geologist". They call themselves paleontologists, sedimentologists, stratigraphers, etc. but not "forensic geologists".

I'm also curious as to how Scott Wolter's bio at the History Channel can refer to him as a "world-renowned forensic geologist" when his professional experience seems to be limited to testing concrete (not really the domain of geology, by the way) and his record of publication in scientific journals is nil. How does one attain the status of "world-renowned" when no one in the world would have any way to have heard of his work?

And it turns out to be rather difficult to find references for Wolter's "archaeopetrography" dating method. I wonder why.

Jason Colavito link

11/30/2013 10:33:28 pm

"Forensic geology" is the use of geological evidence (usually soil evidence) in criminal trials, such as to tie the accused to a crime scene. It is not typically a profession but a practice. Wolter claims the title because he testified in court about concrete used to bury a body. "Archaeopetrography" is his own self-invented science, with no academic publication on its methodology.

Ray

12/1/2013 12:58:59 am

Clearly, Wolter's use of the term is a misuse of it. It is dishonest for him to claim that he is a "forensic geologist" since even in criminal trials, forensic geology is performed by geologists who specialize in something that simply lends itself to forensic work. It's worth stating again that no geologist refers to him or herself as a "forensic geologist". Wolter is very dishonest... but we already knew that.

Scott Lund

12/4/2013 01:37:28 pm

@Ray
While attaining geologic credentials, did you perhaps skip the Marketing 101 class? Just curious, do we ever say we are going to expose our children to dihydrogen oxide temperated via a networked process involving thermonuclear reactions to which the results are then infused with caustic soda and the concentrated leachings of potassium carbonate?
Pehaps there are some here that would AND expect their children to understand. I myself would prefer to say they are getting a nice warm bubble bath.
"Forensic geology" is a term that cuts through the minutiae and gives a general indication of method to the masses. It is an informative entertaining television show, not a peer documentary steeped in stale post graduate fact.
Personally, I am not going to get my undies in a bunch worrying that the ignorant population of America may not look up the definition thereby denoting a history (which I am a part of) that is ridiculed by generations to come. I have better things to do, such as "America Unearthed" is on in only 24 minutes...gotta go, Cheers!

casual viewer

11/30/2013 10:44:25 pm

I was intrigued by Wolter's title. I google qualifications needed. A large familiarity with crime scene aspects is necessary - and a degree in forensics with a minor in biology, chemistry or geology.

Ray

12/1/2013 01:05:40 am

Sounds reasonable. The crime here is that Wolter calls himself a geologist. Perhaps he becomes familiar with the aspects of crime by committing his own crime of lying to the public?

Scott Lund

12/4/2013 01:53:50 pm

Ray! We have missed you...The Rev says Hi! (sorry, he still does not know if the name is Gi Ka ~ Ge Ke ~ Gee Gee, or "One who Beats Dead Horse") But never mind, I like the new name, did it come with any NEW topic of issues to discuss? (if not, hope you kept the reciept)

Scott Lund

12/4/2013 01:54:18 pm

Jason Colavito link

11/30/2013 11:52:09 pm

Please note that I have removed a racist comment that advocated violence against non-white people.

Ray

12/1/2013 01:12:07 am

I saw it in my e-mail notification of the response. Why would someone who visits a site that deals with science and skeptical investigation be inclined to make such a comment?

Jason Colavito link

12/1/2013 01:19:04 am

You would be shocked by the number of white supremacists who bombard me with comments and emails complaining that I am skeptical of America Unearthed, which they view as the first mainstream media acknowledgement of the correctness of their views about the superiority of the white race. That post was tame compared to some of the vile hate mail I receive.

Scott Lund

12/4/2013 02:12:52 pm

Thank You Jason, it is about time that some one overcomes the fear of the aryan type and the speculated unknown retaliation that comes with standing up vocally against them. Loudly supporting freedom, equality, and justice inclusively without forethought is what you modeled and demonstrated in moderating that post. The fact they did not acknowledge or include that many white people also need a good beating...well, I would have removed them too. Bravo Kind Sir!

More 2 History link

12/1/2013 02:59:00 am

Marie maybe it helps to understand that the host is only entertaining because of his incredible and unselfconscious incompetence, and only more entertaining for some of the biting comments on this site. if not for this discussion i might go back to watching people getting their cars towed in detroit on The Learning Channel.

Shy

12/1/2013 05:24:26 am

Jason C,
I have noticed that you have a love of saying how many words you have written on a subject and almost seem to use it as a form of credentials to justify what your saying. Word count does not matter, what matters is the research and actual fact hunting that goes into the article. I have had to analyze hundreds of articles in collage and i have often come across 3 page articles that have less accurate information than an article with just 200 words. It would be nice if you spent more of your time doing in depth independent research on the subject you are talking about rather than adding to your word count. most of your blogs in reference to the america unearthed series is in order and nearly identical to wiki pages on the subject. I'm not saying that the only place you get your info from but its influence shines through the most. If you did real in depth information you would have called people related to the article yourself to get direct quotes and information. for instance after reading this article in particular (without reading the comments for if i had i wouldn't have needed to do this) I tried to find more information on the article, called the school got the same info you did, but then I went a step further, I contacted the man himself. Yes i took the time to email Scott Wolter and ask about this, because the internet and school clearly didn't have an explanation but he surly would. And he responded, he referenced his post here that i missed but also explained it for me separately. This is how to do article research, you try to get as much information as possible from as many people related to the subject, this includes the main person themselves, in this case Scott Wolter. you are, for the most part, not an expert on any of the fields you talk about. hence you must talk to those who are. get opinions from people for and against Wolters theories and try to get Wolters input as well, that would help prevent situations such as the one related to the article. if your not going to take the time to do all the research yourself then please stop writing and giving one-sided half-assed articles.

Jason Colavito link

12/1/2013 05:34:56 am

You needn't lecture me on journalism; I trained as a journalist. You may or may not know this, but Wolter doesn't speak to me after he accused me of being part of a conspiracy and directed A+E Networks to threaten me with a lawsuit for "stealing" his "Hooked X."

I don't really get what you're saying about Wikipedia. It seems that you are mistaking presenting information in chronological order for copying Wikipedia. Wikipedia, as you may know, gets its information from published sources, as do I, and in many cases those are the same sources.

I will admit, though, that this is an interesting new line of attack: Everything I say is true, but it's unacceptable because other people found the same information!

Scott Lund

12/4/2013 05:57:41 pm

@Shy
If you did all that before you read the comments, I want to hear your opinion if you care to share it. May I ask if after your research, you now have seen Jason's follow up to this particular topic titled, "Following Up on Scott Wolter's Degree and Megan Fox's Ancient Aliens Obsession"?
If so, what is your opinion of the comparisons of opposite ends of the spectrum? Are the comparisons to being on the same spectrum valid? Does the comparison validate anyone's opinion of the other?
The Cliff note version is this; In the article, Megan Fox is in bed with Scott Wolter and about to destroy the facts of history.(Great marketing plot to bring in readers Jason!) In referring to Fox, Jason wrote this quote, "she reiterated her believe in ancient aliens in a controversial interview with Esquire magazine". Jason also quoted this gem, “I like believing. I believe in all of these Irish myths, like leprechauns. Not the pot of gold, not the Lucky Charms leprechauns. But maybe was there something in the traditional sense? I believe that this stuff came from somewhere other than people's imaginations....”
Does public exposure actually encourage that whatever the mind creates must be true to the people if they hear it enough?
From Jason's article, I am scared I may wake up tomorrow and find the words of Fox have inspired a cult, led by Katie Perry, that is all the rage on Facebook . Perhaps I would have joined if it happened last week, but Jason saved me, well that.....and I can not dance
Below is the last paragraph on that article, and it appears to be a summary of comparisons I mentioned above, and explains how the consequences of Megan Fox and her public thinking process is similar to Scott Wolter. My personal interpretation of what Jason conveys is that what they in common bring to the table of history is only a description of the dish they left behind. Personally, I think that Wolters dish is wonderful and just not Kosher enough for Jason's palate, yet the multitudes appear to enjoy it freely.(minus Charter/Comcast fees)
"This is yet another reason why Ancient Aliens, America Unearthed, and the rest of this pseudoscience is so dangerous. It reduces epistemology to emotion and teaches that how we feel about history is more important than what we know (or can know) about history."

What do you think? Thanks, Enjoy the day if you want to, Scott

Larry M

12/1/2013 10:25:20 am

Hey, this blog is almost as entertaining as the show. Hey, seriously....you only have to watch a couple of episodes to know that this guy is a bit out there. That doesn't mean it isn't entertaining. I do believe an old adage applies here: take it with a grain of salt. My wife and I are still fans of the show, there is some very interesting content. As for his degree, who cares.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/1/2013 10:35:27 am

Yeah …
It's a TV SHOW … It attracts viewers to bump ratings to satisfy the advertisers … It ISN'T a "Video Peer-Reviewed Academic Journal of Archaeology and History" …

Ray

12/1/2013 07:25:09 pm

Then maybe it should stop pretending to have something to add to a field where peer-review is the way things are done. Simply saying that it isn't peer-reviewed doesn't excuse it from needing reasonable academic standards. Why should we accept such a double standard?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/2/2013 02:33:20 am

It's a TV Show ...

Scott Lund

12/4/2013 06:04:23 pm

It is a Great telivision show.~ I rarely watch TV, but when I do...It's America Unearthed. Stay Thirsty for Knowledge through inspiration my friends

scott lund

12/4/2013 06:13:57 pm

@Ray You said,"Then maybe it should stop pretending to have something to add to a field where peer-review is the way things are done. Simply saying that it isn't peer-reviewed doesn't excuse it from needing reasonable academic standards. Why should we accept such a double standard?"

If it were as you say, a double standard, I would accept it because adhering to your prescribed status quo of remaining hidden in basements, drawers. and lecture halls of Universities is NOT inspiring the young searchers of tomorrow.

scott lund

12/4/2013 08:24:07 pm

Ray, think of the subject in which you are requesting straight dope on and facts on. If you had the facts on this along with a TV show, are you going to spill absolute true facts that could lead someone else to the discovery of generations? If you have worked hard for 5 pieces of a puzzle, would you freely share knowing that the person with the one last little piece may be out there and can have it all and not share with you? Not unless you trust the reason to trust them anyway. But, put that reasoning aside....Pretend it is a court of law...1. Did they have motivation to do this? Proven, they had more than one overwhelming motivation; they had religious reasons of pending persecution by Catholics, the need for religious freedom, financial gain and room to grow, an innate need for glory and fame, and a deep seeded wanderer's lust. Not just one motivation, many. 2. Did they have the means and ability? They were well above the means and ability to transport hundreds of people safely at up to 10 knots an hour, and they possessed these ships and knowledge utilizing them as a way of life from at least 800 AD onward. This technology has been recreated and done today as it was back then, except those that have done it today do not have the experience, religious motivation, or the welcoming attitude towards death that existed and was demonstrated consistently in Icelandic settlers and many other Scandinavians throughout the centuries..
3. Any witness to this? Yes, although some say the "Sagas" are truth and fiction of real people, they are the greatest literary works of the middle ages, and many descriptions, accounts and physical evidence have been verified or accredited by scientific method and archaeology. Historians are medically certain from the "Saga's", my great grandfather 32x removed, Egill Skalla Grimsson 910-994,AD, had Paget's disease. In studying the "Saga's" every unique description reported about my Grandfather's life and symptoms match accuratly the timeline for development. Descriptions of his skull from the grotesque thickness and shape, the specific scallop texture, white color variations on impact, and extreme harness give accurate and confirming information to this rare heritic disease he suffered throughout 50 of his 80 plus years. There is also DNA evidence adding to proof that a woman in the "Sagas" from Scotland named Unn"Deep Thoughts"Ketillsdottir, was one of the first settlers in the NW area of Iceland. Through archaeological remains, it was confirmed that 60% of the women were from the UK and the men were predominantly Scandinavian. Today, myself and most any Icelander knows his heritage back to 800 AD and farther. Iceland, as not many known, is a mecca for writers and they are sticklers for documentation. 1 in 10 residents is published.

Lisa A. link

12/1/2013 11:01:42 am

Dr. Colavito,

How under God do you have the energy for all this? I wish I had your patience. It makes me anxious just reading all this vitriol. But I suppose I sought you out because of some underlying need to have someone qualified say, "This definitely doesn't ring true."

I have no formal training in any of the cited disciplines, but grew up listening to immediate family members who did. I can only offer the pearl of wisdom my psychologist mother dropped on me about 45 years ago, and it has stood me well. You cannot reason with unreasonable people.

Periodically I watch America Unearthed, and every single time, I question the value I place on my dwindling time here, with a "What is *wrong* with me?" Some of it is a bit cringeworthy.

I'm from Europe. I've seen consultants on the show be polite with Mr. Wolter, but I know how it works there and I can read their faces. Clearly, any voice of dissent, as polite as it may be, is edited out.

I am sure he's a nice, decent family man, but it's the affect of Mr. Wolter I find disturbing. Sort of blinders on, and hellbent. I had a grandmother who built little boxes onto the sides of the Times crossword so she could say she finished it. Like that.

I would absolutely love a good mystery to be uncovered before I pop my clogs, but as passionate as Mr. Wolter seems, I doubt it will happen. At least he is laughing all the way to the bank.

Thank you for keeping things real and on an even keel, and thank you for having the energy to be the voice of reason. And God bless your ability to field comments.

bleach

12/3/2013 02:05:26 pm

After watching a few episodes of the show for the first time and then bumping into this site I went ahead and did you a favor Jason. I bought you a huge loaf of bread and jar of peanut butter to go with how damn JELLY you are LMFAO! Damn fool if you talked in real life how you write to people on this blog I would fall over laughing. You sound like a giant weenie that is hugely in love with Scott. You're so jealous of Scott it's sad homes. That show is way fun and Scott is killing it and rolling in cash traveling around looking at rocks doing what he loves to do... with no masters degree. You on the other hand write a sorry blog disin entertainment shows with your phd, dr what ever u have. Then Scott tells you hes glad you like the show and PWNTs u so hard with that comment you have to say "glad u like the blog" 3 times in your sorry response. LoL I gota run i'm gona go dig in my back yard so I can find something for Scott to come check out so we can make fun of you together. Maybe ill find one of your real degrees and we can do a show on how someone so educated can make so little money compared to us no degrees Killing it!... call it JELLY Unearthed!!

Ray

12/3/2013 06:46:16 pm

What a rant. As soon as someone pulls out the 'jealousy card' you know that he's not to be taken seriously.

bleach

12/3/2013 11:31:39 pm

That's crazyness!! I'm completely serious about filming JELLY Unearthed! There is talks about a spin off called Serious card Fan Boyz Named Ray! Although the producers says our title is to long. Please respond to help us out with our title. ty in advanced!

SlickChick

12/3/2013 05:02:55 pm

Scott Wolter seems like a nice guy and I dont blame him for his passion in trying to get these answers but sadly he's being paid and paid well for this show by the History Channel which, and I never thought I'd say this, has lost much of its credability in my opinion. I used to be entralled by many of their programs and now its more and more its all these silly series which cater more to the reality tv sheep than true diehard history and science buffs. And I think its sad that the HC has stooped to this level. Its clear to me its just another fine example of corporate bureaucracy making poor decisions lacking foresight and ruining something that was pure in the hell bent quest for more profit with less effort. America in a nutshell, sad....

Diana Lee-McAnsh

4/4/2016 02:15:03 pm

Scott Wolter produces a pseudo science reality show. The masses want entertainment and television supplies this, it's the Roman Games of our time. The History Channel is cashing in and with the deplorable state of education it's an easy market out to capture. Operation Paperclip put America on the moon; who or what is going to save America from misinformation and ignorance? 32 million adults in American can't read, that's 14% of the population, another 21% of Americans read BELOW a grade 5 level. Not hard to see why people like Scott Wolter are cleaning up in misinformation programming. http://www.operationpaperclip.info/, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/illiteracy-rate_n_3880355.html

Sharon

12/4/2013 12:16:32 pm

Watching America Unearthed beats the hell out of watching Honey Boo Boo.

Ray

12/4/2013 08:15:15 pm

That's one heck of a lousy choice. Better to go read a book - but not Scott Wolter's book. Something real.

Derek

12/4/2013 06:20:53 pm

Let's just think about this. If a person walked up to you holding a cup of coffee and said to you, "hey, check out my Honorary Master's Degree" would you believe them? Or would you laugh, perhaps a little nervously over the fact a complete stranger has claimed a cup of coffee constituted earning a Master's Degree and stayed with that claim for 20 years.

As a person who teaches in a High School, with a Master's Degree. A real one, from an accredited university I find it laughable that people think its no big deal that he promoted a lie for so long. If his "cup of coffee" was that, then he should post a statement on news websites, etc clarifying this misinformation and allowing the viewers to decide. While there is certainly a section of individuals, mostly fellow anti-academic types who feel some sort of kinship with Mr. Wolter who believe his outrageous claims. For example the Egyptian-god worshiping Celts that supposedly had a religious site in Oklahoma (yes, nothing reaching about that at all now is there).

I am also a Minnesotan, and of Scandinavian ancestry. Minnesotans have long wanted to believe that the Vikings came to Minnesota, but it makes little sense for any Viking to have voyaged to West Central Minnesota when the logical location for any Viking settlement would've been near the Great Lakes since they gave a possible route to the Atlantic Ocean. Where the stone was found was a LONG way from the Lake Superior. Legends are fun because people want to believe them. Why? They're a good story and that's all Mr. Wolter has really done with one very notable difference.

He's declared those legends (if you can call them that) to be fact, and that exact matches exist when they clearly do not. About the only refuted fact I've seen Mr. Wolter accept was the Viking sword found in a farm field West Central Minnesota was in fact some modern reproduction. Even then, as soon as he accepted it was not a real Viking sword he insisted to the historian that the Runestone was 100% accurate. The expert was never really allowed to offer his opinion. This gave an illusion of agreement, in an attempt to legitimize Wolter's claims. This is a pattern his shows often utilize. In the end, he gives his two cents and even though none of the research shown on the show definitively proves any of his claims he just says their true and hopes the viewers believe him.

To the anti-academia and I'd even speculate the religious crowd this is seen as gospel. Its not even worth arguing with these people. They are believers. If Scott Wolter said Jesus was buried underneath the streets of Harlem, they'd believe him because their prophet, Scott Wolter said it. He isn't one of those accredited scholars with real qualifications and thus an 'agenda' but Wolter's shameless self-promotion and misrepresentation is supposed to be taken as some sort of misunderstanding demonstrates your fundamental disagreement.

The believers want to believe the crazy claims so they can feel smart for a change. So they can go to friends and tell them what Scott said and try to convince them that maybe they're not so crazy. This type of exalted stupidity is actually dangerous. It creates a false narrative. It distorts the facts and removes truth and replaces it with fantasy. It would be like telling a child that they were not conceived by their parents but in fact were brought here by a stork who delivered them to their parents.

I have zero problem with re-examining history, but let's use some common sense. As a person who has taught American History (something Mr. Wolter has NEVER done or maybe he's claiming a cup of coffee brought him that too) we certainly discuss Vinland and Leif Eriksson. We also discuss the Chinese likely landing on the West Coast before Columbus ever arrived as well. Why doesn't Mr. Wolter look into that idea? Or doesn't that fit with HIS paradigm? That he has to exalt some pre-Columbian European civilization and en-noble the United States with all sorts of possible archeological / historical treasures. "What if" is a tantalizing question for some people. But if all we have are "what if's" then its obvious we don't have much at all.

I think that pretty much sums up History Unearthed, Ancient Aliens, and quite a few other shows that the History Channel airs these days unfortunately. When you lie on your resume, that normally would be grounds for being terminated from your job. So yea, I'd say its rather serious.

I think Jason's main point is that Scott Wolter's supposed credibility is based on a degree he does not even possess. It implied expertise that were not confirmed through college credits and certified coursework. He merely got a cup of coffee and we are told, by no other than Scott Wolter that guys who are supposedly quite old that he had proven his mastery and gave him a cup of coffee as their "ceremonial coronation" of said achievement. So the only people that can really p

Lisa A. link

12/6/2013 03:32:59 am

Ha! I certainly wish my son could get his Master's for the price of a cup of coffee! Unfortunately, it's just another manifestation of the show's MO. Baseless shortcuts. I'm not a spiteful person, and my input here is not intended to hurt feelings, but there is a distinct lack of *real* academic research on the theses. Ergo, entertainment fluff. Taken as that, I can see it having value to some.

Derek

12/4/2013 06:30:48 pm

Let me continue from where it cut off. (I am not sure why it did that) The only people that can prove his claim are old, and are of a depleted condition that Scott had hoped not to heap controversy and questioning of this issue with professors who are now in their 80's and Scott himself. The same Scott Wolter who lied (by his own admission) for 20 years about his credentials. I am sorry, but that doesn't sound too convincing to me. However, he seems to be persuasive in his delivery and understands how to manipulate an audience. I can at least give Scott Wolter that much credit. But to say he's an expert, a historian, or an archeological researcher is just as much of a reach as many of the claims in his American Unearthed episodes.

Jason Colavito link

12/4/2013 10:42:06 pm

The blog comments have a maximum word count.

Derek

12/5/2013 02:23:08 am

Jason,
I figured that word count was the case. Sorry for writing a 'blog' within your blog. I shared some of the 'discussion' here with some of my colleagues and we all had a good laugh. However it was a laugh that had a level of being a little bit troubled and disturbed by how so many people can believe such baseless claims. As a High School teacher I hear students talk about the Zombie Apocalypse and occasionally they'll repeat something they 'learned' (I think the more accurate term is what they saw) on Ancient Aliens and America Unearthed. One of the things we teach our students is to source the source. In this case, identify who is Scott Wolter and the claims that he's making and look objectively to see if they are factual and credible. Scott Wolter is neither.

My own students realize it and as an educator I do my best to model an objective point of view where they do not accept just about anything at face value and do what they can to check the sources of the information they use. What we really have here is two modes of thought.

The mode of thought that believes just about everything, and admires those that take a leap of faith like Scott Wolter does repeatedly in his show. And those like myself, and I'm going to guess you as well Jason who would say prove it and if they can't, you remain skeptical as you should. The believers will always believe, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The believers cling to this, because its their way of feeling as though they're right.

I think to call what Scott Wolter, Van Daniken and others of that ilk pseudo-science is giving them far too much credit. Their claims are in the realm of quackery and their only real gift is to entertain and impress the under-educated. Religion has thrived off this model since it started, and these guys often find lots of 'followers' from those ranks. Wolter's alleged 'friend' the Reverend is perfect proof of that. These people buy the books, the DVD's, watch the youtube clips and retweet them on their Twitter accounts and the volume of that activity makes them feel as though they are legit. They are not. They are simply recycling lies and telling more lies so they can sell additional material.

I think Scott Wolter's America Unearthed should be on Comedy Central, because it should garner more laughs from anyone with a sensible mind than do most of their stand up comedians. The sad truth is that some of the programs on Comedy Central are more rooted in fact than Scott Wolter's program is. Even Drunken History tells more truths than most America Unearthed episodes.

This won't convince the believers though. Their prophet has spoken, and with a cup of coffee "didn't really lie that bad" which is about the biggest concession you'll get from them. I am sure the believers are waiting for that pile of money from helping out an obscure Nigerian official too.

Thanks again for the Blog Jason, its nice to know someone else does care about the truth these days. The real truth.

Ray

12/4/2013 09:17:12 pm

To Scott Lund:

There's no more room for a reply in the proper place so I'll have to reply with a new entry:

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about in your post of 2/05/2013 4:24am and I have no idea where you got the idea that I said anything that sounds at all similar to what you wrote.

Second, everything in your posts reek of conspiracy theory. You said, "adhering to your prescribed status quo of remaining hidden in basements, drawers" says it all. You assume way too much without evidence. Unless you know for sure that something is being hidden away you're way out there. I suspect the latter.

Third, I'm not whoever it is you think I am as we've never interacted before. I'm new here. But, being of a conspiratorial mind, I'm not at all surprized that you think there's something nefarious going on.

Try a new flavor of Kool-Aid. You must be getting bored of the usual one.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/5/2013 03:03:49 pm

As I have posted relentlessly (above), the questions and issues raised in the "America Unearthed" TV shows ought to be addressed per se, without the name-calling and snarky character assassination …

I dunno … I guess I'm just old fashioned ...

Ray

12/5/2013 06:30:28 pm

And you also said it was a TV show, as if that somehow gives it a pass when it comes to truth. But alas, it doesn't. When claims of fact are made and when people are accused of being dishonest it won't work to make the excuse that it's just a TV show. That's what I meant when I referred to a double standard. The medium doesn't matter. The claims of fact do matter.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/5/2013 03:03:56 pm

Ray

12/5/2013 06:37:14 pm

You should just take your own advice and lighten up... okay?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/6/2013 01:41:53 am

Ummm … That's where I've been already … It's a TV show ...

Scott Lund

12/6/2013 02:30:58 am

Ray, I do owe you an apology, I really thought from your writting style and your use of the word lie that you were someone else. I was wrong and should have thought it out a little more, before I tried to banter, and think I was smart and cocky. If it offended you, especially being new, and you took it personal, then I really really do feel terrible for that, no excuse, I am sorry. Scott

Derek

12/6/2013 04:55:39 am

Its just a TV show. So I guess its just a sermon then. Do you talk about Scott's show when you preach? If you do, why do you. If you don't then why not. They are obviously beliefs you hold. I really hope you explain to your flock about how you believe that Celts from Ireland traveled all the way to Oklahoma to worship an Egyptian god long before Columbus' arrival to North America. If you haven't already, you should try it and tell us all the reaction you get.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/6/2013 05:29:18 am

LOL … No … I very seldom mention ANY TV show in a sermon, except by way of a cultural illustration (generally a NEGATIVE one) …

But … My interest in posting in this blog has been and continues to be simply in defense of the CHARACTER of my personal friend and professional colleague, Scott Wolter …

I haven't endorsed any of the CONTENT of the "America Unearthed" TV shows (except as to the authenticity of the Kensington Rune Stone) ...

Scott Lund

12/6/2013 11:13:31 am

I wonder if that reaction would be the same as the one Galileo received from the church in supporting Copernicus?

Scott Lund

12/6/2013 03:25:10 am

Ray....what's wrong with orange Kool-Aid? Oh, and no to the conspiracy theory label. Life is to short. The conspiracy theory everyone talks about I believe is actually due to a combination of real things..A very strict code of ethics that forbids and encourages archaeologists to, I quote "refuse to participate in the trade in undocumented antiquities and refrain from activities that enhance the commercial value of such objects. Undocumented antiquities are those which are not documented as belonging to a public or private collection before December 30, 1970, when the AIA Council endorsed the UNESCO Convention on Cultural Property - See more at: http://www.archaeological.org/news/advocacy/130#sthash.tvuuMLEz.dpufany" . The politically correct climate almost seems to be a Puritanical contest these days. The other part of what may lead to people thinking that is they are overwhelmed by nut jobs and bone heads only wanting to make a buck. You can not encourage these people or no work will ever get done. So even if it is perhaps something, they almost have to act like it is nothing.

As to hiding in a basement, I was not referring to objects per sae, but to the excitement and sharing of the field. Getting young people out there on a dig, teach them and show them, ensure the future. And show them the importance of doing it the right way. I guarantee you show a kid how to easily cut down a tree with just a bi-face rock he or she will be impressed. The Science Mueseum of MN is great for that, and so are other sites and people. But, there are many who just cringe at the heathens and give it a bad name. Here is another portion copied and pasted from the SAA's own code of ethics..." The commercialization of archaeological objects - their use as commodities to be exploited for personal enjoyment or profit - results in the destruction of archaeological sites and of contextual information that is essential to understanding the archaeological record. Archaeologists should therefore carefully weigh the benefits to scholarship of a project against the costs of potentially enhancing the commercial value of archaeological objects. Whenever possible they should discourage, and should themselves avoid, activities that enhance the commercial value of archaeological objects, especially objects that are not curated in public institutions, or readily available for scientific study, public interpretation, and display." Most archaeologists would say even a point in a farmers field has context and should be left to the experts ....I think that is overboard and limits the future. Conspiracy? Nah, they are just trying to be on the "down low."

Ray

12/6/2013 07:31:46 pm

You seem to think there can be value in something that's not documented. In fact, it's useless. For starts you can't prove anything with it - you have to BELIEVE. And that's not what science does. Again using a legal analogy: A prosecutor can't ask a jury to believe. He/she has to prove his/her case. And that can't be done when the evidence is not up to the required standards. What you're doing here is the equivalent of a defense lawyer asking that tainted evidence be forced into consideration because it's convenient for his defense. But it just doesn't work that way. Undocumented artifacts are useless.

scott lund

12/6/2013 01:20:30 pm

Dereck,

I am very curious, with you being from Minnesota and having a better chance than most to hear and read about the large number of local Scandinavian objects found and dated to the middle ages, how many do you know of? Do you know how many there are? I mean other than the replicas or old tourist junk mistaken for older artifacts.
You do realize that any finds presented out of context are denied any and all support of the established authority, right? Does that mean they do not exist? That would be like saying guns have never been fired until a bullet hits your arse. (in my admitted crude opinion)
Have you ever stopped at the Mom and Pop museums in the south western part of our state? Looking at your own background for reference, would any of the older generation Scandinavian farmer or people even consider going through the public exposure and ridicule if caught lying about finding an object? My recent ancestors would rather die than even take the risk of telling people about it if there was a chance of someone questioning their character. But yet, there are broad axes, a couple of whet-stones, iron harpoon/spear points, the Roseau Russian runestone from 1928, supposed mooring stones, the fire steel found in Climax MN in 1871, the 1738 La Verendrye lead plaque the ND state historical society has record of and how he found Jacobs Pillow north of Minot. Verendrye's account of the blond hair blue eyed Mandan tribe, the vast number of old Norse words in many native tribes, the Norumberge Lok map accurately showing Canada and northern US created with Norse information before Columbus, etc, ect.
I believe the reason the public has not had prominent archaeological verification and support is when discovered, the objects are not left where they are for study and the type of proof called for all in archaeological societies. We all get too excited and ignorantly think our word is good enough along with the object. I speculate the archaeologist thinks there will be more, so why risk condemnation of your peers and violate the code of ethics. What do you think? What does anyone else think?

scott lund

12/6/2013 03:47:36 pm

I want to share my personal experience with Scott Wolter for those that unjustly accuse him of grasping at hype and conjecture. I have found many cool and unusual things over the years. After a recent unexplained and unusual find of a stone, I was guilty of getting overly exited and temporarily became one of those nut jobs. The reason was I had researched that unusual stone I found and the individual markings on it I originally thought were First Nation symbols. They are large orderly marks that appear like a carved bent spear, two teepees next to each other with a line under them, a line with small hash angled through the middle, and most of all, a fish symbol with an x to make the head and gills. After research, they matched up a great deal to Elder Farthuk runes that spell a region in Norge minus one symbol. There are also three symbols that fall in line with the Roseau Stone and it's repeated message, and to boot I found out, it was found in an area with ties to the Kennsington stone and Templar legend. I asked Scott Wolter for help. He was very kind, not at all condescending, and took the time to explain how my find was natural and not man made. Even though, he could have "explored" their origin and perhaps embellished to make them fit a theory, or even added it to a show that discredits finds to help boost credibility to all the nay sayers, no, he simply said in a kind way to enjoy it. If he resembled the worst of the posters here, I do not think that would be the case. I promise you, I am not an idiot, if I was fooled and thought it was related to his show subject, a large proportion of his fans would have thought that also. Just thought I would share.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/6/2013 03:56:19 pm

Yes … in my experience, also, Scott Wolter is a gracious and honest person … I concur ...

Ray

12/6/2013 07:13:41 pm

Out-of-context artifacts are not dependable and nothing can be inferred from them. That's just a matter of fact. It's like a legal chain of custody for evidence: Once the chain is broken it's not evidence anymore. And mom and pop museums fake things all of the time. That's a fact, too. Worse, it's a real problem for unwary archeologists and paleontologists. Consider:

"COMBATING FRAUD IN THE COMMERCIAL FOSSIL MARKET

Ask any scientist or museum curator and they will tell you. Fossil fraud and fakes have become a huge problem in today's commercial fossil market. It is of utmost importance for both dealers and collectors to be able to determine if a fossil has been faked or parts of it fabricated. Here we have dedicated a separate section on this vital topic."

From: http://www.paleodirect.com/fakefossils1.htm

Also see: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/broadband/theedge/sfl-edge-t-fakehistory,0,690374.flash

From experience I can tell you that anyone with an agenda is capable of faking artifacts and fossils. That includes creationists, purveyors of alternative histories, or even real scientists who don't play by the rules and have a theory to prove at all costs.

scott lund

12/7/2013 02:38:28 pm

Ray, I found my stone while searching only for meteorites, and with the matter-of-course debris, I did not suspect this as archaeological prospect. Had it been a trade bloom of steel scientifically proven to come from say, bog iron in Greenland, and had specific unassailable evidence as to source of the symbols confirming original origin, then your conservative protective stance, if adhered too, would be a travesty to history and an affront to congenial society. A background check is an easy start to get the ball rolling, and perhaps for the archaeology academia, a good start in adding an acceptable protocol that accepts citizens in good standing honestly finding objects that in themselves are vital to the historical record. When you combine that with the amazing talent out there for detecting fraud, and the advanced methods to do so, it is only sloth that does stand to deny the historical knowledge that is the birthright of my children. Shunning implemented by a religion I may disagree with, but as an American I accept. Your view, and the academia that concurs, I do not. You prescribe to an elitist inflexible narcissistic philosophy that belongs adjudicated to the same fecal stained annals of the religious figures who condemned Galileo and Copernicus.

scott lund

12/7/2013 03:00:15 pm

If God forbid, you acquired a life threatening diagnosis incapacitating your ability to be transported, and for which there was no FDA approved cure, but Norway had a simple portable cure in an approved and proven one dose tablet. Are you going to adhere to your Puritanical stance and chance exiting the gene pool? Or are you going to come visit us here in the country of Doublestandia?

Ray

12/6/2013 06:57:02 pm

Scott Lund and Phil Gotsch,

Your personal testimonies about Scott Wolter are really nothing more than subjective, biased and meaningless. Scott Wolter has already shown us that he can't be trusted with the truth. Lying about one's credentials says a lot about his character and how much he can be trusted. I suggest that you're glossing over your friend's problem by making excuses for him. Lying about one's credentials is unacceptable anywhere else so it isn't acceptable here. My personal interest here is his alleged dating method, which he seems to want to keep a secret. No one seems to know anything about it and when I ask for one of you to help me find out more about it I'm ignored. And yet you have the nerve to complain about others being secretive. Excuse me but, that's far from honest. Looks like the same double standard I've mentioned previously. And have you ever wondered just why Wolter won't tell anyone about his dating method?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/7/2013 12:47:25 am

The bit about the "honorary Master's Degree" was an innocent harmless misunderstanding … Scott corrected the error nearly a year ago … Get over it ...

Ray

12/7/2013 04:56:59 pm

It was a lie - pure and simple. Stop making excuses for him. He had no such degree. He knew it. That makes it a lie.

scott lund

12/7/2013 01:29:42 pm

Subjective biased and meaningless? You are impugning my character as a first hand account witness with a person I have no relationship with, nor ability to profit from in any way? My testimony is clear, accurate and meaningful. Your zealous ignorant denial of such indicates uncontrolled extreme prejudice disqualifying you from having any legitimate meaningful input into the matter of the afore mentioned persons character and or reputation.

Ray

12/7/2013 05:05:04 pm

Yes, subjective, biased and meaningless. It it were objective, fair and meaningful then every time a mother got up in court to defend her guilty son we'd have to throw out the results of the trial.

Your character is not the issue here but I note that you just got through saying that you have a personal relationship with Scott Wolter - now you say you don't.

It takes more than personal testimony to defend ideas.

scott lund

12/7/2013 08:44:05 pm

Ray, to the contrary, my character is being questioned by you. You say I flip flopped on the aspect of a relationship and then compared an email and a couple responses back to me as a relationship comparable to a mother vouching for her son in court? I am scared for the person who says hi to you at the grocery store and what you shall interpret that relationship to be....You don't have a sound proof basement do you?
Next time you "note" something, reread the damn note and see if you spelled "conjecture" properly less you make an ass of yourself.

Ray

12/6/2013 07:40:35 pm

Phil Gotsch said, "Ummm … That's where I've been already … It's a TV show ..."

And you embrace a double standard even though the TV show makes what it claims are statements of fact. But what if a TV show claimed that your religious beliefs are misguided and wrong? Would you be offended by that and try to respond or would you just shrug it off as just coming from a TV show? Well, we already know the answer, don't we? Double standard again.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/7/2013 12:50:28 am

You have an unusual notion of how clergy prepare for sermons and for classes … No … We don't go out of our way to refute any and every non-Catholic claim that is made out there in the popular culture … We simply relate what the Church teaches, believes and confesses to be true ...

Ray

12/7/2013 04:41:53 pm

You didn't actually answer my question. The core of the question was the TV show's claimed statements of fact. You danced around it.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/8/2013 01:46:16 am

Ray … Ummm … So …

I don't have time -- or inclination -- to correct every error or misstatement made by somebody else much less in every TV show …

Lighten up ...

Robert Bennington

12/7/2013 04:16:24 am

With new dna testing showing a cluster of Mayan descendants that derive from the area shown on Scott's tv show he is being supported by the facts. The Mayan connection and appearance around 1000AD also helps explain the sudden appearance of mound builders in southern Ohio and the construction of Serpent Mound which to this date has never been adequately explained. The mound building and the serpent effigy are rather neatly explained by the immigration of Mayan influence into Georgia and eastern Tennessee making no great stretch for them to have traveled to southern Ohio. The timeline alone should make it significant enough for further study. An interesting tie in would be to check the dna ancestry of a local group of residents claiming indigenous heritage that does not connect to the known native tribes that have inhabited the area.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/7/2013 05:40:04 am

Serious students of North American history and archaeology have long understood that there were indeed extensive pre-Columbian trade relationships, movements of peoples, and cultural influences over a huge area ...

scott lund

12/7/2013 03:30:43 pm

Reverand, a great example of that is Poverty Point Louisiana. I believe it is the findings there that will either force the powers that be to accept true history, or will allow fresh blood to finally confirm truth leaving such a wonderful legacy and reputation for the deceased deniers. Ironically, if academia maintains the elitist sheep culture, the way you discredit ALL of Wolters legacy based off of one thing you claim is dishonest, shall be the same fate in a much broader sense of the academic deniers and their work you now endorse.

scott lund

12/7/2013 03:36:24 pm

Wow, I went back and forth between addressing you, to addressing Ray. sorry about that! I guess I have a burr under my saddle huh?

Here is the redo''''

Reverand, a great example of that is Poverty Point Louisiana. I believe it is the findings there that will either force the powers that be to accept true history, or once they have died, will allow fresh blood to finally confirm truth leaving such a wonderful legacy and reputation for the deceased deniers. Ironically, if academia maintains the elitist sheep culture, the way RAY discredits ALL of Wolters legacy based off of one thing he claims is dishonest, well, that shall be the same fate in a much broader sense for the academic deniers and their work Ray now endorses.

Ray

12/7/2013 04:47:43 pm

Two problems here: 1) It is the academic researchers that you all complain about that have done the work and provided this info about the Mayan DNA, and 2) You seem to falsely be giving Wolter credit for this.

scott lund

12/7/2013 08:50:16 pm

Uhh Ray? He said that Wolter is being supported by the facts, there was no implication a sober person could construe that he was given credit for the results. Bar close early? Or different time zone? Either way, have another beer and sober up, will ya?

Jay

12/7/2013 02:58:15 pm

Just a thought. I watched the first few episodes to determine if perhaps a cable T.V. show would actually air an "investigative"series that ends each episode with some actual, definitive answers. One can fast forward to the end of each episode to learn that nothing has been learned,no questions answered. unfortunately, it is not about solving problems or gaining clarity, it is only about getting to as many eyes as the advertisers can reach. The advertising rates being paid are the only true governing power in todays media driven society.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/7/2013 03:43:25 pm

Yeah …

Whether we like it or not, TV time ISN'T *free* … It COSTS something …

So there are sponsors … These days, even "Public TV" stations and programs have "sponsors" … AND … yes … ALL TV shows are produced and provided and broadcast … in the hope that *somebody* (preferably LOTS of *somebodies*) will tune in and WATCH ...

Ray

12/7/2013 04:54:23 pm

To Scott Lund:

What the heck is Scott Wolter's "legacy"? Has he actually done any of the work here or is he simply relating it to the TV audience? Where has he published anything? Heck, he won't even tell us what his alleged dating method consists of! So please inform me of any original work from Scott Wolter that justifies him having a "legacy".

scott lund

12/7/2013 09:03:54 pm

The first one that comes to mind is his study of the KRS that was peer reviewed by 7 world renown experts and found to be accurate. With that and his show, like it or not, his legacy is the start and foundation in redefining correct history. With his information getting out and getting heard against the academic wishes, places like Poverty Point and the copper trade around 2500 BC is getting traction in recognition. I would say that is better than being known as the archaeological professors little bytch any day.

Ray

12/8/2013 07:13:43 pm

Where can I find this peer-reviewed study? And why, when I ask for a reason for you referring to this "legacy", do you cite a single peer-reviewed study?

And, no, his TV show is not part of any "legacy" - unless it's a legacy in pseudoscience. In fact, I have to question whether Wolter even knows basic geology. On his "New World Order" episode he picked up a handful of loose soil and looked at it with a loupe and called it "sandstone"! Forgive me but, Scott Wolter is to geology as Jack Hanna is to zoology.

Scott Lund

12/9/2013 01:44:03 am

He is asked to show them by a Norge Bradcasting Docmentary crew filming on the KRS for 2 years. It is on Norways own channel and you can link to it if you can google KRS Norway Broadcasting I think, sorry, I do not have the link. It is in Norwegian so good luck, but Wolter and Americans do speak in English. It shows both sides of the argument and you will see other possible atifacts found that were removed from context.

Ray

12/7/2013 05:27:31 pm

To Scott Lund:

Good grief, you genuinely don't get it. First, I know nothing of your "stone". Second, the issue, as I've already described, is whether you can PROVE it to be what you think it is. Can you? I'm not asking for what you believe, I'm asking for proof. This goes to what I said about artifacts being in proper context (in my post I spoke of a legal chain of custody for evidence - if the chain is broken, it's not evidence). It has to be both dependable and defendable. Is your "evidence" dependable and defendable? Do you know its real age? Do you know it's not modern? Or do you merely believe? Again, undocumented artifacts are useless. That's a consequence of the high standards that are necessary to arrive at dependable and defendable conclusions. What you're doing - whether you realize it or not - is to ask for lower standards. That's not something you should be proud of. It's not unlike when the intelligent design crowd in the 2005 Dover, PA trial tried to redefine science to such a low standard that it would have allowed astrology to be included as a science. Lowering standards is a pseudoscientific appeal to rationalize pet beliefs, not an honest call for assessment of evidence at high standards.

scott lund

12/7/2013 09:29:16 pm

No Ray, I do get it. But I am starting to see or at least think it is you that doesn't get it, you poor man. Perhaps call up that person who said hi in the produce isle last week. Perhaps once you release that tension you can interpret simple words, phrases, and ideas. Like the one of mine you just posted too and then assumed I want to desegregate science and instinct as you say I have a belief in an object and it should be accepted. Hell no Ray, that is NOT what I said. My premise was on an undeniable object pertinent to history that in itself, by study of the rock alone, without any other thing or bit of evidence to go on, it could be proven to be vital to the record, and that premise was hypothetically applied to my stone (already judged not to be pertainent) and the way it was found. The way it was found happens all over Aerica, every day. My way of discovering that stone was an honest ignorant mistake on my part removing the context, but with it being my mistake, the historical record should not be left remiss due to some peckerwood hall monitor that now has a position in the archaeological department and needs to laid because the proverbial stick up his ass is not doing it anymore so he takes it out on manipulating the historical record. There....simplified

Ray

12/8/2013 07:00:47 pm

You're living in a fantasy world of pseudoscience. A sample never exists beyond the context in which it was found. No matter how important it is to you, personally and no matter how convinced you are that it has meaning, if it has no context (i.e. if it turns up without a known provenance) then it can't 'prove' anything. So one can't "study the rock alone". The rock has no significance if whatever is inscribed on it or any carvings on it are modern. And without that context you can't say whether it's modern or 2 billion years old (this is called sarcasm so please don't waste the bandwidth it takes to refute it).

And it doesn't matter that your mistake in removing the rock from its context was an honest one as that fact doesn't change anything. So tell me, given that hoaxing is a real problem, why should anyone blindly accept that your sample is real? What do you have to offer that can convince an honest skeptic? Are all professors of archeology and paleontology just supposed to believe? If they did that then they wouldn't be doing science! They'd be engaging in some sort of belief! Why is that so difficult to get you to understand?

Scott Lund

12/9/2013 01:43:51 pm

You said you are a "former" geologist or something? Is that because you can not grasp technological advances as they happen? I replied to you in all responses without explaining advanced forensic methods of determination, as I thought with your claimed background they were understood and a given. You wanted to validate Wolter's methods of study, yet you post that above showing no knowledge of geological forensics. Do you realize for some time now, If you tried to "fake" a common First Nation artifact such as an adze, celt, or grooved axe, you would be found out by an authentication specialist working out of their home and not a lab? I am a novice and know just the surface silicate degradation on the knapped areas can tell you if it was exposed recently or many generations ago. The atomic level forensics imposed for some time now go much, much, farther. So when I say my hypothetical rock's authentication has been found unassailable accurate, it is through these given methods unspoken which I thought you understood were implied. Passing the scrutiny of that type of verification, it would be a travesty to bar it from the authentic record due to protocol. If you can not agree there is merit here, I shall just correlate your religion of protocol to the same religious protocol that persecuted those such as Copernicus. At their heart they are the same monotonous impasse to the eventual truth.

Ray

12/7/2013 05:37:58 pm

Scott Lund wrote:

"... Are you going to adhere to your Puritanical stance and chance exiting the gene pool? Or are you going to come visit us here in the country of Doublestandia?"

This is apples and oranges. If I had no option but to use an unproven medicine of course I'd take it. But that doesn't mean that I have to accept unproven and undocumented artifacts as real just because -- well, what IS your reason, anyway? Really, it's just your personal need to have others accept your pet theory, isn't it? Well, I don't share your need. All I want is to see high standards maintained. You, OTOH, have no interest in that.

But I really do appreciate your equating unproven medicine with your undocumented artifacts. There's something quite fitting about that.

scott lund

12/7/2013 10:30:42 pm

Ray, your last two sentences say it all..
"But I really do appreciate your equating unproven medicine with your undocumented artifacts. There's something quite fitting about that."
These words again show you do not have what it takes to have a legitimate argument as you can not see past your own narcissistic paradigm. Re-read my post Ray, I said, "Norway had a simple portable cure in an approved and proven one dose tablet." approved and proven Ray, and I stated in Norway. I did say it was not approved by the FDA yet, but does that mean it is unproven everywhere? Or has no use or value? You see yourself in the FDA because it is American as you are, and you overlooked Norway's approval and proof of a cure that would save your life. You then state of course you would take the pill, yet then turn right around and say the pill is unproven and use that as fodder in your last two lines to throw a ha ha in my face.....You got me Ray, I'm just not worthy.

Ray

12/8/2013 06:43:06 pm

Now you're just nit-picking. Okay so it hasn't been approved by the FDA. My point is unchanged.

Ray

12/7/2013 05:42:14 pm

So when will you guys join me in asking Scott Wolter to come clean and tell us about his alleged dating method? This is, what?, the third time I've asked? How come you keep asking for the archaeological community to come clean but you won't apply the same standard to Scott Wolter?

scott lund

12/7/2013 08:20:15 pm

Ray, I am not even remotely the one to ask for help. I have no pull in any way with him to ask that for you. He was just kind enough to help me when I sent him an email and pictures in reference to my find and it took a little while, but he followed up a couple times. I was and am grateful for that even if it was not the answer I thought. I have not bothered the man since out of respect for his time.

Ray

12/8/2013 06:39:51 pm

That still doesn't stop you (and Phil Gotsch) from calling on Wolter to disclose his alleged dating method for us to evaluate. Ya think Wolter stops by once in a while to see what people are saying about him? I think so - even if he doesn't comment. Why don't we all ask him to come clean about it? Where else in science to scientists use a secret method? Pseudoscientists, OTOH...

Scott Lund

12/9/2013 01:03:18 am

@ Ray You have the nerve to ask this over and over with a straight face? And expect help? You either got brass balls or are DSM4r clinically narcissistic, and I gotta tell you, I have never seen blue brass.

Ray

12/9/2013 06:30:53 pm

So you refuse to ask Wolter to come clean. You accept his secret dating method. Is it any wonder that you pseudoscience guys can't get any support from real science?

scott lund

12/9/2013 06:52:47 pm

Real science? Where? Wait a minute Ray...How in the world would you recognize real science?

Vito Cipponeri Jr.

12/8/2013 03:29:19 am

Scott,
I have an interesting conversation piece that I encountered in my restaurant.
A gentleman came in and told me about the new world order in 1985!
Also how they would take over the world.

Ray

12/8/2013 06:31:58 pm

And with the low standards these guys are proposing they would accept and believe all of it. And then they'd whine that nobody takes them seriously. Go figure.

Robert Bennington

12/8/2013 03:31:42 am

I find interesting the arguments about proof and chain of evidence as if this were the cure all for defining what is acceptable evidence or not. We are constantly confronted with news about people being convicted and sentenced to death on faulty evidence that was far less rigorously reviewed than Scott Wolter's presentations. That's the whole purpose of proposing an idea or theory. Let it be reviewed and see if it will stand the test of scrutiny. Any time you are proposing anything that is not mainstream you must expect to be attacked as has been the recent discovery that all galaxies have a black hole at their center. Until that discovery proposing that idea would have been blasphemy. Now it is being accepted as fact and will be until some evidence to the contrary is discovered. Just because it's a new idea or proposed by someone without academic credentials doesn't mean it's wrong.
The man who first proposed overnight delivery that became FedEx got a C on his thesis because his professor didn't believe it would work. Look who's laughing now.
Accepting only the tried and proven doesn't always make you right.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/8/2013 04:33:56 am

Yes …

TV shows like "America Unearthed" have a positive value in stimulating interest in the standard versions history and suggesting other possibilities … I think that is a good thing ...

Ray

12/8/2013 06:29:11 pm

So now you admit your real reason for maintaining the double standard: With low standards you guys can better accomplish your goal of getting your pseudoscience accepted by the public. With the higher standards of real science you'd be unable to do that.

Ray

12/8/2013 06:22:44 pm

You've contorted the entire issue. Yes, sometimes people get convicted on faulty evidence so your remedy for that would be to allow MORE faulty evidence into the courtroom??? Believe it or not, that's what you're arguing for when you argue against existing standards. No, an intact chain of evidence is not a "cure all". It is a rational standard against allowing tainted evidence into the court room. A rational response from you would have been to call for HIGHER standards, not to argue that existing standards should be relaxed. I'm knocking my head against my keyboard after your silly comment.

The existence of a black hole at the center of galaxies became an acceptable explanation because the idea had enough support and met exiting standards or evidence, not because existing standards were relaxed - as you are calling for. Thus, your example actually makes my point, not yours.

Your closing comment is laughable. "Accepting only the tried and proven" has never been the standard, despite your inability to understand the issue. The only honest standard is "meet the high standards and prove your case". That's how we keep pseudoscience out of real science.

Ray

12/8/2013 06:24:48 pm

That should be 'standards of evidence' rather than 'standards or evidence'.

Paula Kruschke

12/8/2013 05:32:23 am

I have been following this blog, contemplating unsubscribing because there are so many posts and it's becoming a little cumbersome, but it's just much too interesting to let go of to date.

I did want to say that Wolter's has indeed published some works that I am aware of, someone a while back said they wanted to see his published work. His published works are very factual regarding Lake Superior Agates, one of the most complex agates in the world. No, this is not published work of his TV show theories, but it's published work. I am ashamed to say that when Wolter's stated much, much earlier in this blog that he published the first of his books in honor of his father who had passed, that before I knew this, I personally criticized and attacked him via email regarding the illustration of his books. I couldn't stop myself, I'm a very visual person who sees the errors of a marketing mistakes sometimes. In this case, because these types of books are so sparse, his books are fairly popular. But, in honor of Wolter's deceased father and him, I now apologize to Wolter's for my unwarranted criticism. The content of the books is indeed factual to what is scientifically known of Lake Superior Agates, and probably from what he actually may have reproduced himself (that is a guess). In his books, he took a very complex subject and made it very easy to understand. He has a gift of writing and presenting in a very interesting and captivating way. Not only that, he honored and personalized the books to local people who provided him agate examples used in the book. He seems generous to give credit, regarding these books, where credit is due. I do find this admirable of him since these are very popular books. And also, there are not many published books that involve the Lake Superior Agate, which makes me grateful that he is one of few who took on this task. Sure, many others have books out there full of pictures, but not facts. Just pictures.

In reference to America Unearthed. I still love Wolter's personality and eagerness in the show, but have since refrained from watching because I found it to be too leading into everything "Freemason." I wanted more variety. I lost interest in the content of show is all. I'm just not that into the Freemasons.

Now, regarding what I've been reading on this blog, I recently was very entertained by the drama that unfolded between Ray and Scott and give it 2 thumbs up. Dang Scott, you are a seriously intelligent person, and quite humorous (well, sarcastic) also. Just reading the conversation between you and Ray unfold was pretty amusing. I can see absolute Narcissistic behavior in many, many people involved in this blog, so don't take that comment too personally Ray. I do prefer to call people out on "ego" before narcissism personally. It's a drastic label.

Ok, all that off my chest. Scott, I have a serious topic that I would like to get your opinion on, in my local area where "legend" has it, the placement of these mysterious phenomena (occurring in random areas around the world, as well) are thought to be placed by aliens. That is of course, is one of many theories. But from all I've researched I can't find viable explanation of these phenomena and neither can experts. I'm willing to guess you know something of this and I would like to ask you some further questions on this topic. Where or how would be an appropriate area to ask these questions of you?

Thanks, Paula

Ray

12/8/2013 07:51:09 pm

Where do you see "narcissistic" behavior on my part? Is fighting against pseudoscience and maintaining the standards of science a problem for you? Or do you prefer something a little more wishy-washy and accommodating of pseudoscience?

Scott Lund

12/9/2013 12:49:57 am

Awww shucks Paula, your too kind, seriously, Ray makes it too easy for me to take credit, but you made my day anyway, Thanks You! Scott

Ray

12/9/2013 06:26:27 pm

Scott Lund: "Awww shucks Paula, your too kind, seriously, Ray makes it too easy for me to take credit, but you made my day anyway"

And now you're just being a troll.

Ray

12/8/2013 07:23:59 pm

Phil Gotsch wrote:

"I don't have time -- or inclination -- to correct every error or misstatement made by somebody else much less in every TV show"

No, it wasn't about about "every TV show". It was in the TV show in the scenario I created.

Rev. Phil gotsch

12/9/2013 02:17:32 am

LOL … Yes … you seem to have some inclination to make stuff up … That isn't my problem ...

Rayt

12/9/2013 06:23:50 pm

Now you're just being stupid.

Ray

12/8/2013 07:42:12 pm

Scott Lund:

Again, your character wasn't the issue - but it is rapidly becoming the issue. And you're awful thin-skinned or someone who wrote, "stick up his ass" and "Bar close early?" You really like those double standards, don't you?

My analogy of a mother giving character witness for her on is right on. Here's what I said: "Yes, subjective, biased and meaningless. It it were objective, fair and meaningful then every time a mother got up in court to defend her guilty son we'd have to throw out the results of the trial." IOW, your character reference for Wolter does nothing to support his work as such testimony is subjective, biased and meaningless. In the world of pseudoscience, however, it would seem to be necessary given that the standards of real science are too high for you.

Scott Lund

12/9/2013 12:38:33 am

Trust me, it is not thin skin, it is the irritation of arguing with a self centered child pretending to be all grown up and sticking to a baseless defense. Do yourself a favor and get off your own side.

IOW your statement of, "if(my testimony) were objective, fair and meaningful then every time a mother got up in court to defend her guilty son we'd have to throw out the results of the trial." infers that each have the same weight in court. Hint, your words, "If" & "Then" for example...If X + (Y squared ) = 8, then X=Y

The only other reason I can think of that you double dip stupidity is you believe that in order for a person to give testimony that is not subjective, biased, and meaningless, and therefore unqualified to convict a person, the witness has to never have had any contact with the subject of persecution.... Somewhere a third world dictator is looking for your resume Ray, please go now.

Ray

12/9/2013 06:21:57 pm

Oh, brother. Let me dumb it down a bit more for you. Subjective, biased and meaningless testimony carries no weight. It can't. It's not dependable, the way we like for things to be maintained for the sake of intellectual honesty. Why is discussing things with you like pulling teeth?

scott lund

12/9/2013 06:37:56 pm

It does seem your specialty is "dummbing it down"

scott lund

12/9/2013 06:39:48 pm

And do not pull my teeth, that would remove them from their context

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/9/2013 02:27:22 am

An ongoing question in these tussles revolves around "dating" an object, a specimen, an artifact, an inscription …

In geology and archaeology there are numerous dating techniques and technologies, some more reliable and precise than others … but they fall generally into two types of methods (that actually in practice somewhat overlap) -- "absolute" and "relative" …

ANY geologist or archaeologist will be familiar with most or all of the methods and will use them appropriately to study the particular *whatever* at hand …

My own personal FAVORITE dating method is about "How to Date a Fossil" -- It's both straightforward and fun: Tell her you've got a couple of tickets to the 27th Annual Simon and Garfunkel Reunion Concert ...

Scott Lund

12/9/2013 01:59:06 pm

Ha Ha, nice, ~ I caught it on the second read.

Ray

12/9/2013 06:14:58 pm

You have said precisely nothing with this post and you have given mere generalities when specifics were asked for. That amounts to an end-run around the question.

Paula Kruschke

12/9/2013 02:42:41 am

Well, you are most welcome Scott. I'm glad you received warm fuzzys from my complement. And, the drama still unfolds as I write this...! Wow! It's a marathon!

I think you may have missed one of my questions in my last post about where the appropriate place would be to post a question regarding a certain phenomena in my area of the US that may be of extra terrestrial nature. Somewhat briefly, this is about a type of mineral called mica schist that exists in certain completely unrelated parts of the world, with no commonalities of climates, regions, geological factors, etc. This mica schist forms the crystal, Staurolite. Fascinating to me is that not all mica schist is able to form what is know as the "Fairy Cross," a Staurolite crystal that twins to produce several different types of cross shapes. Luckily, my location is one that produces these in massive quantities and I've got one that is incredibly large for this area (perhaps 1-2" diameter). Granted, my crystal is incased in a tomb of iron which left it perfectly formed for life without the worry of it's fragility, but the iron added to its massive size. From my research, no one seems to know exactly how these mica schist formations came to be, how they ended up in the locations they did, and more perplexing, again, is the randomness of where they have occurred, so sparsely. I haven't seen one factual theory, most all occurrences are explained with have been based on folklore, and one theory is that they were placed by aliens. Now, I revert back to "Land of the Lost" and the importance of crystals to the Sleestacks...is there a connection? Jk.

Seriously, if you are aware of this phenomena and have posted anywhere on your site about it, I'd love to read it, please just tell me where to look, or, if you have a blog for random questions like this, please let me know.

I appreciate your time and know you are a VERY busy guy right now.

Thanks again, Paula

scott lund

12/9/2013 03:11:12 pm

Hey Paula, I am not bright enough to figure if you are asking me the question or not. But, if you are, then I would ask if you have considered copper mines in your area as that can be one common place your metamorphic shiest and staurolite can form the crystals I believe due to the higher pressures and temperatures than those that would normally produce shale. That would be relevant if you lived in the vincinity of MI. Do you live in GA or VA? A great deal of shiest in GA contains fairy crosses and is fairly common, but other states such as MI, Wa, NC and CO also have forms of Staurolite. What you described as various crystals added with the fairy crosses is also found in Russia and Bulgaria. As to sites and blogs, I have no real knowledge of alien disscusion forums, mainly just historical and Primative tool and tool making type forums and now I have no time for even that as I have been reading manuscripts from the middle ages based on sagas(from oral traditions) to chronicles of clergy such as "Gesta Hammaburgensis ecclesiae pontificum" by Adam of Breman. I would refer you online to mindat.org or gemdat.org for more info on your Staurolite. You will find more aspects, composition, and terminology of your subject to further your research and find the truth of their origin. Hope that helps in some small way at least. Scott

Scott Lund

12/9/2013 03:26:30 pm

@Paula, the encased in iron aspect has peaked my curiosity. How is it "encased"? How much farther than 240 miles south of the Canadian border are you?
When you say iron, is it predominantly rust free in one band if banded and rusted and degrading like iron floral motifs on the other?, and has a ceramic type feel to it? Have you had the mineral content assessed and if so is the iron between 97% and 98.4% along with some unnamed alloys? Let me know @ [email protected], I may be able to help determine who made it or what commercial properties it was used for.

Ray

12/9/2013 06:11:44 pm

Mica schist is a rock, not a mineral. It is found all over the world. There's no mystery about it: it is a common metamorphic rock and that is the "geologic commonality" you seem to think is mysterious. As for the Staurolite cross not being common, how does that imply anything extraterrestrial? At best your reasoning does nothing but to place its origin somewhere else and that doesn't really explain anything at all - it just pushes the answer one step farther away. But it's really not at all that uncommon - you can easily buy it online.

The cross is a form of twinning called penetration twinning. Didn't your research get you that far?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staurolite

Bryan Maise

12/9/2013 08:30:56 am

Just doing a simple internet search, I found credentials for Mr. Wolter as geologist, he owns his own successful and respected business in the field and also has a bachelors degree. However I did not find any mention of an honorary degree. No mention of any archeology credentials.
Mr. Colavito has a bachelors in anthropology and journalism but I could find no mention of any credentials in the fields of science or archeology. Most of the post he mentions the thousands of words he's written on particular subjects but that does prove he is capable or qualified to render any judgment.
Mr. Wolter has been known as a conspiracy theorist of history and an avid supporter of the Jesus bloodline conspiracy. He is also known for making certain claims with no actual basis of fact and his evidence his been considered circumstantial and speculative at best.
Mr. Colavito has been cited as being the foremost knowledgable in the field of ancient astronaut theory criticism but is only a hobbyist in the field of debunking as his primary interest is known to be science fiction, the horror story genre and the works of H.P. Lovecraft.

Any of the above is not my own statement or opinion but only what turned up on searches for either gentleman in the argument above.

That being said, my opinion is that neither man is qualified to prove or disprove each other.

Stephen JC

12/9/2013 08:38:52 am

None of that matters. If you don't like the show or don't believe what they claim than don't watch. If you don't like how Jason critiques the episodes or disagree with them than don't come to this website.

Bryan Maise

12/9/2013 12:09:29 pm

I wasn't intending to imply negativity or coming to anyone's defense. The article is titled "Scott Wolters Non Existent Degree" and only in the article does the author clarify that he does actually have a degree just not the one he is claiming to have which I thought was misleading.

I don't know. I guess it's just the wording of the title I took issue with. If it said "Scott Wolters non existent masters" than I probably wouldn't have thought twice.

Jason Colavito link

12/9/2013 12:19:20 pm

Did the St. Petersburg Times face a year of people being angry at them for reporting in 2008 that Food Network chef Robert Irvine had faked his resume, including, it was claimed, his culinary degree? I wonder if they received half the hate mail I get over this blog post, which did nothing more than the Times did regarding Irvine. Somehow Scott Wolter elicits so much more passion than Robert Irvine, which implies that his claims have a much greater emotional appeal than British food.

Bryan Maise

12/9/2013 02:30:01 pm

I don't know. I'm not a fan of British Food, have never heard of Robert Irvine nor am I really interested in culinary arts.

But why answer a question with a question or compare what your doing with what they did? Isn't it really about what you think is fair writing the article? If you feel justified doing it by comparing yourself with what another author did in another article and your fine with that than there is nothing I can really say.

Jason Colavito link

12/9/2013 11:00:28 pm

You seem fuzzy on the concept of news. This was a news story about a public figure about an area directly related to his claim to expertise. I hardly need to "justify" discussing what Scott Wolter admits that he did. If you are upset, feel free to direct your upset at Wolter, who used a cup of coffee as an honorary master's degree for two decades.

Jason Colavito link

12/9/2013 09:14:53 am

A fact is a fact regardless of who says it, and a claim is true or false regardless of the claimant. Scott Wolter's education makes no difference to whether his version of history is correct, and my education make no difference as to whether the facts I use are true. There have been PhDs who have said weirder and worse things.

As you said, Wolter says things that have no basis in fact, and one doesn't need a degree to say so. Facts will suffice.

Bryan Maise

12/9/2013 11:27:09 am

Let me reiterate please that it's not "as I said."
Those were only excerpts of information from the searches of both individuals.
I am not trying to support or oppose either person.

Paula Kruschke

12/9/2013 04:05:47 pm

Hi Scott, I apologize for not being more direct, but yes, my schist questions were directed toward you specifically. You were the most helpful to date with the information you just provided to me. I have inquired with geologists at the University of MN and more and I hadn't ever gotten that much info. Thank you so much for the resources. Copper mines make complete sense but, there aren't any for several hours from the location where the schist is, the mines are at the Lake Superior region. The schist with crystals that I find are at the Blanchard Dam on the Mississippi River in Little Falls, (Central) Minnesota, usually under water but the water is very low in the summer at times and it's just packed with boulders of schist with crystals sticking out and crystals are all over the ground near the river. It's quite a site to see, very neat. But I will definatly check out the websites you suggested. I was aware of the other locations around the world, I only wish we had the garnets as well. Like I said, the stories I've heard in the past were based on folklore, and that's how aliens were brought into the mix. One never knows...

Thank you so much again!! I'm excited to read more about my topic. And I have no idea what you're talking about in your new interests and endeavors, but I'm always one who is much to curious to bypass checking it out. I'll be reading up on that too.

I didn't realize until just now that you are a horror writer. Outstanding! I've followed Stephen King's brilliance, in my opinion,for 30 years, even after he retired! Lol! He's my all time fav, I love his psychological twists! I am a writer myself of all sorts, but most recently I'm writing and illustrating some children's books. As to when anything will be published is unknown at this time. It's a bucket list goal I've had, to write some very heavy messaged, perhaps controversial, or taboo children's books and publish them, maybe more for a therapeutic setting. My books are a little macbre in the disturbing sense of reality of a lot of unfortunate young lives filled with emotional, sexual, physical abuse, teachers who teach anti-bullying in school, yet are bully's themselves, being removed from the home because mom and dad love meth more than you, etc. Nope, not your average potty training books.

Anyway, my favorite King quote, "Write with the door closed, re-write with the door open." I love his intelligence and got to meet him once. What a genius, and so down to earth. Anyhoo. Back to Freemason's, degrees, and debates!

Take care and thanks so much again! Paula

scott lund

12/9/2013 04:45:20 pm

@Paula, with the glacial drift, that would make a great deal of sense as the copper deposits in Lake Suprior that are stangely planed vertical show immense glacial wear. The raw deposits of copper and float copper removed are found, or were found throughout MN landscapes. You should look in the spring after the flooding for green or copper colored rocks that look like slag, or like what concrete resembles after it is spilled on the ground if it was long and narrow. Raw gold nuggets would possibly be a good sight reference due to having the same shape and texture. I believe you can legally harvest the copper same as panning for gold and retain possesion if on state property, but, if it appears to be man made and over a hundred years old, please do not touch it and call the State Archaeologist. Otherwise Ray might find room for you in his sound proof basement.

And, sorry, I am not the author of either horror genre nor the blood lines and Da Vinci. But I am a fan of Stephen King.

Paula Kruschke

12/9/2013 04:23:15 pm

said:

@Paula, the encased in iron aspect has peaked my curiosity. How is it "encased"? How much farther than 240 miles south of the Canadian border are you?
When you say iron, is it predominantly rust free in one band if banded and rusted and degrading like iron floral motifs on the other?, and has a ceramic type feel to it? Have you had the

Paula Kruschke

12/9/2013 04:34:53 pm

Scott, I'm 295 miles from the Canadian border and the crystal absolutely has a ceramic feel to it. But it's a perfect St Andrew's cross. It's encased completely, non- rusted, very dense, heavy, smooth, gray/brown colored. I will send you an email with a photo hopefully sometime tomorrow. And oops about reposting part of your message. I was trying to copy and paste into another document and got moving to fast, re-posting to your blog.

Scott Lund

12/9/2013 05:00:22 pm

Funny, I was going to say 292 or 293 miles south after some quick math and counting for border fluctuations, but decided to keep it general, glad I did or it may have weirded you out. Very Cool, I can not wait to see the pictures, Thank You Paula!

Paula Kruschke

12/9/2013 05:00:34 pm

I apologize to both Jason and Scott. I was completely mixing my conversations up between both of you. I think I'm back on track now though. Sheesh. Time to go to bed. Nighty night!

scott lund

12/9/2013 05:04:22 pm

Paula, Like I said, I am socially incompetent at figuring those things out, so it was my bad. I said that because there is an author named Scott Lund who writes along this same subject as Wolter pursues. Not me, I am in MN, not CA.

Ray

12/9/2013 06:45:06 pm

Scott Lund: "You said you are a "former" geologist or something? Is that because you can not grasp technological advances as they happen?"

Right back to the personal attacks, I see. Read on.

"Do you realize for some time now, If you tried to "fake" a common First Nation artifact such as an adze, celt, or grooved axe, you would be found out by an authentication specialist working out of their home and not a lab"

Hilarious! I'll bet I could fool the lot of you quite easily. There are chemical methods I could use to mimic age. I could even find old wood and make something out of that - and you guys would be all over it and foaming at the mouth. One could even salt an area with old artifacts and claim that they were found wherever your fancy takes you.

"...the same religious protocol that persecuted those such as Copernicus"

Ah, yes! The crackpot's standard excuse about being persecuted by modern science. It's an automatic giveaway when you guys try that rot.

scott lund

12/9/2013 07:28:08 pm

A repeatable experiment with you is just say the truth and you will say it is words of a crackpot and call it a giveaway. Nice defense....perhaps stop wearing the shoe and become believable.

As to fooling the lot....Then seriously try to fool one or many of them, use a blind study or something, I bet you you could get that published if you could accomplish it, there is your platform to preach. I bet they would even give you extra credit for not using Wikapedia in the process.

Ray

12/9/2013 07:46:09 pm

Why even bring up the idea of repeatable experiments? All you want to do is believe, anyway.

Ray

12/9/2013 06:54:16 pm

Scott Lund: "He is asked to show them by a Norge Bradcasting Docmentary crew filming on the KRS for 2 years..."

I ask you for Wolter's peer-reviewed study and you provide me with a TV program that's half in Norwegian??? Is that really your response? Perhaps we're finally beginning to get a glimpse of the inner workings of your pseudoscientific world and what passes for rigor and honest inquiry.

scott lund

12/9/2013 09:19:37 pm

I politely gave you what I had....and this was your response

Ray

12/10/2013 04:10:25 pm

You gave me nothing. You made a claim about a peer-reviewed study so I asked you for it and you gave me nothing. So apparently there was no such peer-reviewed study. Either that or your idea of what constitutes peer-review is a bit, um, out of kilter w.r.t. real scientific standards?

The intelligent design people are similarly trying to redefine science to fit their own needs. Maybe you should link up with them.

scott lund

12/11/2013 10:36:50 am

I gave you nothing? Why, because it was not a link to Wikipedia?

The reason correcting the historical record is resisted, is right there....people like you do not want to do the work to find the truth...it's too hard. Cowboy up and look for it.

Ray

12/9/2013 06:59:43 pm

Scott Lund: "It does seem your specialty is 'dummbing it down'"

Someone has to do it. But sometimes I can't get down enough to help you get it.

scott lund

12/9/2013 07:34:48 pm

Well just keep it down, cause I don't think humanity wants you getting it up.

Ray

12/9/2013 07:42:55 pm

You don't want to hear about anything that doesn't support you belief system so you go off track and make stupid comments. 'Nuff said.

Rayt

12/9/2013 07:07:40 pm

Scott Lund: "Real science? Where? Wait a minute Ray...How in the world would you recognize real science?"

More jokes from our head joker. And you still won't ask Scott Wolter to come clean about his alleged dating method. Instead we get flippant distractions like this. Anything to avoid scrutiny on your belief system, I guess.

scott lund

12/9/2013 07:37:30 pm

Inappropriate and Rude Flippant requests beget Flippant Distractions

ray

12/9/2013 07:44:04 pm

Riiight. It's my fault that you say stupid things.

scott lund

12/9/2013 09:16:04 pm

Your fault? No, no, no, Ray, I made the decision to go in that direction all on my own, stupid, funny, inappropriate or whatever label it deserves. But, perhaps ask yourself, in all the replies to people here whether I agree or disagree even more than I do with you, I have for the most part refrained from remarks similar to what you have experienced. So Ray, why you?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/11/2013 04:05:34 am

Ummm … I wrote a quick inviting post (above) intending to start a discussion about "dating" … but nobody "bit" …

If you don't want to discuss "dating," then stop asking, okay … ???

scott lund

12/11/2013 09:33:29 am

Yes you did, and I have never corrected you kind Reverend, but you did not correlate your discussion of dating to customs of 1911...Nothing valid has changed in 102 years, and you trying to rouse this newer generational social interpretation is worse than Elvis shaking his hips.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/11/2013 11:08:03 am

LOL … I forgot … Sorry … My mistake ...

Paula Kruschke

12/10/2013 12:07:47 am

Ray,
I talked about mica schist that produces the Staurolite crystals being the anomaly, not the fact that schist itself exists. You're a jerk who can't think outside of your own thick skull. I don't wish to discuss anything with you. I didn't ask your opinion.

Ray

12/10/2013 04:00:22 pm

And my response about Staurolite crosses covered that. Thanks for your courteousness.

Paula Kruschke

12/10/2013 12:19:24 am

Ray, yes, the schist is rock, the crystal is mineral, I did misstate. Thank you for catching that.

Steve

12/10/2013 05:38:45 am

I've seen brief comments from time to time that claim the K. Stone's inscription [or at least a major portion of it], had been carved with a chisel measuring exactly one inch in width. If true, that would certainly suggest the inscription is a hoax. Has anyone studied the length of the individual runes in detail?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/10/2013 10:26:39 am

Yes …
The Runes have now been studied VERY extensively ...

Ray

12/10/2013 03:58:04 pm

Yes, and in 1911 the Kensington Runes were studied by Scandanavian Rune experts in Scandanavia - and they were deemed fake.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/11/2013 04:03:00 am

The "take" on the KRS rune forms has CHANGED as the studies have gone beyond an initial cursory glance … Read Scott Wolter's book … The KRS rune forms ARE consistent with runes KNOWN to date from the 14th Century ...

Ray

12/10/2013 04:03:30 pm

Scott Lund:
"But, perhaps ask yourself, in all the replies to people here whether I agree or disagree even more than I do with you, I have for the most part refrained from remarks similar to what you have experienced. So Ray, why you?"

Because you can't stand having someone maintain a strong, steady argument against your pleas for lowered standards in science?

scott lund

12/10/2013 09:05:18 pm

No, I had thought you were only strong enough to not break down trying to defend yourself, or I hoped because if not, I would not have replied the way I did. But.....you are still full of piss and vinegar trying to strong arm your version of intelligence with a Neanderthal mind and a Wikipedia link. As you type your words Ray, are you saying them out loud in your G.I. Joe voice?

reality it is actually because you are such an aggressive ass clown.

Ray

12/11/2013 03:03:14 am

How sad that you can't handle a discussion without resorting to such vitriol. I'm used to seeing that, though, as I've come up against such immature losers on internet blogs and forums before. People who can't handle having their precious bubbles burst sometimes do things just as you do. But even worse, you tried to blame me for your own childish outbursts. At least take responsibility for your actions.

scott lund

12/11/2013 09:44:10 am

Ray, you are so very perceptive yet again, I, when I just posted this, "Your fault? No, no, no, Ray, I made the decision to go in that direction" I was obviously blaming you and not taking responsibility for my actions...woe is me, I'm not worthy.

Ray

12/12/2013 06:26:21 pm

Finally we agree.

scott lund

12/11/2013 10:21:09 am

Ray, I can handle the bursting of my bubble? I am chuckling at how deluded you show yourself to be in each successive post. The reason is like I just said. You are an aggressive ass clown bully who will only be enabled by those that remain silent, leaving you to believe even more, you are right. Ray, they are not silent because you are right, they are silent because it is not worth the brain damage. You absolutely do NOT have a strong steady argument, it is pathetic regurgitated chum you appear to have read about last week. It is BS tunnel vision unlit by even the most basic air of civility. It is obvious that while you read posts, you are too busy thinking of your reply instead of actually comprehending what is in front of you. It shows in most every one of your repeat rebuttals that you get and give nothing. You do not even realize that I am a firm believer in science, scrutiny, and proof, even though I have mentioned it and many various scientific methods many times, you have quoted NONE, except to say you can commit fraud on antiquities at will because you are a smart guy. A person misspeaks rock for a mineral and you puke your vile attitude all over them, and then, Mr GI Know everything refers her to Wikifuckingpedia? Someone asks a question in reference to chisel marks and wonders about previous studies on the KRS and you confidently state as proof a study from 102 years ago?...Are you joking me? You believe your intellect has unnerved me? I liked coming here because these are seriously some of the most intelligent people and talented people you could ever have the privilege to meet. Reverend Phil and Jason are both with high credentials yet never talk down to us peasants. When I grow up I want their humility. Even though others here disagree intensely on the main topic and have gone back and forth, most know how to play ball and I respect them. You are deemed wanting of validity, courtesy, and reason, unworthy of respectful response, or visceral discourse. It would be wasted on you to try, so once again, you are an aggressive sociopathic ass clown and you bore me. I can't thank you enough for all your time.

Ray

12/12/2013 06:25:30 pm

Thank you for again proving your emotional instability. I think there are few names left that you haven't called me, BTW. Want to try again? And you ask if my intellect has unnerved you? Well, apparently so! What a tirade! Now go wipe off your chin and grow up.

You say you're a firm believer in science? Hey, that's what the creationists say, too. Yet they don't know how science works, either.

And my reference to the Scandanavian study was pertinent because it was conducted by actual Scandanavian rune experts in Scandanavia - the real thing, not self-described experts from Nowhere University with a non-existent honorary degree.

You're a very strange person with possibly serious emotional problems. Perhaps it's time to beam yourself up, Scottie.

Ray

12/12/2013 06:33:05 pm

Phil Gotsch wrote: "The "take" on the KRS rune forms has CHANGED as the studies have gone beyond an initial cursory glance … Read Scott Wolter's book … The KRS rune forms ARE consistent with runes KNOWN to date from the 14th Century ..."

The "changing take" is in your mind. Those Scandanavian rune experts didn't just give it a "cursory glance". In fact, the problems with the inscription can be safely ascribed to a hoax. Better yet, the hoaxers are pretty well identified. Read Stephen Williams "Fantastic Archaeology" and avoid pseudoscience like Wolter's fantasy.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/13/2013 02:54:03 am

Ummm … It's not 1911 any more … Studies have continued …

But you seem to be making a very serious charge … Do you think that Scott Wolter sneaked over to Sweden and ALTERED rune stones that are KNOWN to date from the 14th century … ??? How else would you explain the MATCH with those forms on the KRS … ???

Ray

12/14/2013 07:30:19 am

And I've noticed (just like before when I asked every one of you to help me get some info on Wolter's alleged dating method) that you haven't provided any support for this claim. Perhaps you can show me where I can find these "studies"?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/13/2013 06:43:07 am

BTW, I notice that Steve Williams' book was published in 1991 … so he obviously did not and could not address the NEW information about the KRS … Do you imagine that post-1991 there have been NO significant updates re: North American history … ??? Really … ???

But … In any case, did Williams' breezy summary popular book concentrate on the KRS … ??? No ...

Ray

12/14/2013 07:31:37 am

Again you allude to something that you won't provide evidence for. That seems to be the standard with you guys.

Ray

12/12/2013 06:39:29 pm

Scott Lund wrote: "I gave you nothing? Why, because it was not a link to Wikipedia?"

LOL! You didn't even give me that! Again, you gave me nothing. You made a claim about a peer-reviewed study so I asked you for it and you gave me nothing but a reference to a TV how that was half in Norwegian. So apparently there was no real peer-reviewed study at all. If there was you'd have given it to me.

Diana Cote

12/14/2013 03:08:44 am

Devil's advocate... Could a person collect a lot of knowledge without a particular degree and be able to do the work without said degree and produce correct results? While I have no relevant degree, I believe many of the things he's said could be true and am sure some are.

scott lund

12/14/2013 03:47:44 am

Diana, I would refer you to a quote from a learned intellectual in physics...

"Authority may be a hint as to what the truth is, but is not the source of information. As long as it's possible, we should disregard authority whenever the observations disagree with it." - Richard P. Feynman, recipient of the Nobel Prize in Physics

But then again, what would he know...

Ray

12/14/2013 07:48:38 am

Here we see Scott assuming that Feynman's words are calling for science to be done with lower standards and without peer review. I could see the creationists using Feynman's quote in the exact same way.

Jason Colavito link

12/14/2013 03:54:57 am

Of course someone could. The problem isn't that Wolter lacks an advanced degree (an honorary degree isn't an accredited program of study anyway) but that he spent 20 years telling people he had been given an honorary degree from a school that didn't bestow it on him.

scott lund

12/14/2013 04:25:11 am

And of course Jason would also agree that unearned honorary degrees are given out often to famous people as compensation to be a speaker at a ceremony to increase the prestige through association of sed university and in no way always reflect on expertise on a subject. The fact that the negative posters on this blog relate their perception on the acquisition of Mr Wolters honorary degree and how his employer added it to his resume, as obvious evidence to discredit his findings on the KRS or his abilities as a host with valid hypothesis or theories are subject to prejudicial speculation resembling their own prejudicial speculation.

Ray

12/14/2013 07:52:29 am

And that's important because the alleged honorary degree says a lot about his honesty and integrity. All the while we have the folks here ignoring the problem of hoaxing and fraud. Well, lying about a degree is fraud.

scott lund

12/14/2013 09:15:08 am

And even though on this blog it has been beat to death with the hammer of prejudice, and also viewed by many many people searching for more info on Mr Wolter (as Google keeps this blog near the top of the search results), the show has still been renewed for a second season and this discussion occurs in no other media that I am aware of. Are you sure that mole hill can support the mountain you have placed upon it?

Jason Colavito link

12/14/2013 09:19:16 am

The issue warranted a couple of paragraphs a year ago. That was the extent of it. I'm not the one endlessly discussing an issue that is largely irrelevant to claims Wolter makes on TV. You can thank Phil Gotsch for keeping this going ad nauseam despite the manifest pointlessness of further discussion.

scott lund

12/14/2013 09:46:31 am

Jason, Do I interpret from correctly from your words we should all let it go and call it subjectively discussed with mutual understandings that the truth lies in our individual perception? Cause if that is the case, I am going to miss Ray....Tito....get me a tissue.

Jason Colavito link

12/14/2013 09:59:28 am

I'm saying that Scott Wolter's honorary degree, which he conceded a year ago was not recognized by his alma mater, has been discussed to death. Since Wolter has himself discussed the issue and explained his original lack of understanding of what an honorary degree is, and Wolter's education is not directly relevant to his truth claims, I just don't see that there is anything left to say.

scott lund

12/14/2013 10:08:46 am

I can live with that, cudos Jason, well said. Does that mean I have more free time to read your other blog posts? See Ya there!

scott lund

12/14/2013 04:11:26 am

But to add to that, the methods of discovery, observation, and collection developed by and over time by academia, are considered instrumental to properly investigate an object and are there for a reason. To proceed without any background, guidelines, nor support, which would most certainly occur without the education, would result in lost knowledge critical to the historical record. Mr Wolter has a valid related background applicable to the work he was hired to do on the KRS, and what ever was beyond the application of his field and how it applied, he had renown experts from various disciplines in the appropriate fields to ensure that his discoveries were correct, verifiable, and would not damage his reputation nor that of the 7 academic associates that accompanied him in the authentication of the KRS.

So to take even longer to give my opinion of the correct answer to your question...on your own to do a quest without background is probably a fail, but with expert support and your reasonable intelligence and perseverance...then success.

scott lund

12/14/2013 04:32:38 am

Oh and Good Afternoon Jason! What did you think of that bloated whatever? Hydrocephalus in a goat combined with entrapped gasses perhaps?

Ray

12/14/2013 07:44:24 am

And you once again ignore the problem with fraud - as if it didn't exist. And once again you argue for lowering standards to accommodate your belief system.

scott lund

12/14/2013 08:52:37 am

Ray, any undergraduate performing due diligence in preparation for a public retort with intelligence, and unafraid the TRUTH would invalidate their position, would be able to get off their lazy butt and do some basic research. Yes, I am referring to you.

Ray

12/14/2013 07:40:45 am

He could but we'd have to ask why he doesn't publish results anywhere that can be scrutinized - the standard way that science is done. Why doesn't Wolter do that? Other people with undergraduate degrees can.

scott lund

12/14/2013 08:53:59 am

Do the work, they are there...

Ray

12/14/2013 07:55:40 am

Scott Lund wrote: "And of course Jason would also agree that unearned honorary degrees are given out often to famous people as compensation to be a speaker at a ceremony to increase the prestige through association of sed university and in no way always reflect on expertise on a subject..."

A rather pointless argument to make given that Wolter has never had such an honorary degree. He lied.

scott lund

12/14/2013 09:04:40 am

It would only be pointless if I was talking to you Ray. The point you contend of a lie is subjective. You can not prove subjective. You can say it over and over hoping to make it true, but it never shall be.

Ray

12/15/2013 04:41:57 am

Fact: Scott Wolter claimed he had an honorary degree.
Fact: He does not.
Fact: He lied.

scott lund

12/15/2013 05:45:06 am

Yaaaawwwwnn....zzzzzzzzz.....zzzzzzz

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/14/2013 03:06:23 pm

I fully AGREE that the question of Scott Wolter's character and honesty should NOT be an issue any longer … Nearly fully a year ago he graciously straightened out a harmless and innocent misunderstanding …

But as long as others continue to unfairly attack a person who has been my personal friend and professional college for 25+ years … I will continue to rise up to DEFEND him …

I'M not the one who has carried this irrational vendetta forward ...

Ray

12/15/2013 04:44:33 am

Again you lie for him. It was not a misunderstanding. It was a lie.

And why is it that you continue to make excuses for Wolter not going public about his secret dating method?

Rev. Phil Gotsh

12/15/2013 07:47:12 am

LOL …
The anti-Scott-Wolter vendetta continues ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/14/2013 03:08:03 pm

The auto-spell-check made the above error FOR me … Should be "colleague" rather than "college" ...

Ray

12/15/2013 04:50:00 am

Wolter's supporters continue to make excuses for him. Even after continued badgering by me, not only will they not provide evidence of any claimed peer-reviewed studies performed by Wolter, they also continue to make excuses for Wolter not coming clean about his SECRET dating method.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/15/2013 08:03:38 am

You are correct, IMHO …

"Badgering" is indeed the term for your approach …

hint: it doesn't invite conversation ...

Ray

12/15/2013 06:17:55 pm

Yes, I knew that word would be an opportunity for you. And, BTW, your hit-and-run style of posting hasn't invited conversation, either.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/16/2013 02:34:59 pm

So, go for it … or not …

READ the detailed material in Scott Wolter's book about the KRS … If you do so, you will understand SOME of his assignment of its date … to 1362 CE ...

Ray

12/15/2013 04:58:43 am

Scott Lund wrote: "I can live with that, cudos Jason, well said. Does that mean I have more free time to read your other blog posts? See Ya there!"

Are you actually saying that you're here against your will? Yes, of course... it's somebody else's fault that you can't leave.

Now, about that SECRET dating method and those alleged peer-reviewed studies?.....

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/15/2013 07:45:43 am

Again …
As I already posted (above) …

In both geology and archaeology, "dating" is a central matter and is of two kinds (which often somewhat overlap) -- "absolute" and "relative" … Whenever possible, an investigator will try to obtain a date from more than one trial from more than one method …

In his book, "The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence" (2006), on pages 13 - 47, Scott Wolter discusses AT LENGTH his extensive and thorough lab studies of the KRS that led him to conclude that it was IMPOSSIBLE for the KRS to have been a late 19th century forgery … READ the book ...

Ray

12/15/2013 06:14:54 pm

If your response to me is to recite a Geology 101 lesson on the difference between absolute and relative age dating then you clearly have no idea what Wolter's alleged dating method consists of. In fact, you've said nothing at all. That tells me that Wolter's book hasn't informed you of anything and that you don't know enough to describe it to me had he done so. So what you've actually done is to show me that there is nothing of use in his book on the dating method. I'm asking for details, none of which would seem to be in his book, judging by your dismissive response. All scientific dating methods have had to go through the rigor of peer-review - but apparently we're supposed to give Wolter a pass and accept that a mere popular treatment in book form is enough. Well, it's not. I again don't accept your double standard. So where can I find out about Wolter's secret dating method?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/16/2013 12:42:44 am

Do your own homework … READ the book … or not … whatever ...

Paula Kruschke

12/15/2013 05:39:03 am

Obsess much? I think the subject has been beat to death and then some. There won't be a winner.

Ray

12/16/2013 06:27:18 am

Phil Gotsch wrote: "Do your own homework … READ the book … or not … whatever ..."

More unwillingness to discuss the subject and more deflection of criticism.

Why should I have to buy his book when I should be able to read about the alleged dating method in a journal - where REAL science is done?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/16/2013 07:01:02 am

Well, then, stop complaining that you don't understand *how* Scott Wolter dated the KRS … His "dating method" ISNT any kind of "secret" ….

scott lund

12/16/2013 07:48:37 am

Reverend, you were so kind to give the specific book and the appropriate pages to answer his query and try to help your fellow man even if the results he interpreted would become his fodder of twisted minutia, but, I understand, you knew that book would not open itself. Nicely Done.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/16/2013 08:14:38 am

Reminds me of that infamous Medieval fella who just KNEW that Jupiter COUDN'T have moons and Saturn COULDN'T have rings …

But, would he take a look through the telescope … ??? Naaaah …

*whatever*

Derek37

12/16/2013 12:25:50 pm

If Scott Wolter wants to lie about history his show should be on the Syfy channel and Not "The History Channel".

SCOTT LUND

12/17/2013 10:28:15 am

Dereck, did you get a high five from your buddies on that post? Where is the lie about history? Giving an opinion based on evidence and experience is appreciated in my book. Of course perhaps if I was you and actually got out there and did the work, debunked all the artifacts found yet unexplained, reviewed the history of the people in question, and been published with these results like you, well then maybe I too would recommend programming guidelines and not sound like a buffoon.

Ray

12/17/2013 04:39:14 pm

I remember when you asked me why it was that I'm the only one you called names and made personal attacks on. But that's not quite right, is it? Maybe you really should unsubscribe until you can manage to grow up.

Ray

12/17/2013 07:36:57 am

I've been pursuing the issue of Scott Wolter's alleged dating method for a reason. And that reason has been to allow his followers to show everyone here that their take on Scott Wolter and his "research" is all faith-based as they won't even discuss Wolter's alleged dating method. In fact, they entirely dismiss my calls for a discussion of it and deflect me elsewhere. Clearly, they avoid any and all critical thinking of Wolter's claims and that shows that they're only interested in things that support their belief system - and that's exactly what they accuse others of doing.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/17/2013 08:22:30 am

Scott Wolter's "dating method" is NOT a *secret* …

Again, see his book on the KRS, pages 13 - 47 …

Why are you so reluctant to do the basic homework that would ENABLE you to enter a discussion of the KRS date … ???

*whatever*

SCOTT LUND....Tired of Ass Clowns and their Old Act

12/17/2013 10:16:25 am

@Ray, perhaps I should unsubscribe from this blog if I want to avoid your pathetic and groundless accusations which you substantiate from your "Belief" and yet do not perform any even minuscule bit of research or follow up to the wealth of info you have been given. You just claim the sky is falling even when you are told the acorn bounced off your head and is next to the path you are on, but still you bitch about why should you have to search in the grass to find it. Does your Mom peel your grapes for you? Is Ray Ray not ready for bedtime till Mommy reads a story? Fricken grow up already. You seriously, as I said before, have not been worthy of visceral discourse or respectful retort. I believe you do not have the courage to have someone you trust that is honest and not afraid of your tantrums read your posts and give you real feedback...Ray, you may actually be more intelligent than I, but we shall never know cause the Ass Clown act is too much of a distraction, and the joke you are trying to tell in this character has become is old and worn out.
Ray, end of discussion here.....When it comes to the KRS, no if and , or buts, there was no secret dating method, and what methods were used ,as described in his book and available to peruse at a Barnes and Noble type establishment, are solid and backed by world renown experts in various fields that indeed the runes were without question carved much earlier than 1898, making the current forgery aspect without merit and only an untruth repeated by ignorant people that are behind in the times, or someone with some sort of issue or agenda whether it be about Mr, Wolter, or the fear of dispelling the Columbus myth, whatever. Against this latest and most advanced study, as a a former geologist who apparently is allergic to work and in certain opinions, exhibits consistent various signs of personality disorders that incapacitate his ability to base his ideations anywhere near societies version of reality, I truly doubt you can add any valid smidgen of doubt, because even if you could muster something, who in their right mind that has read any of your former tirades would take you seriously? You know, when I apologized to you earlier, I meant it, and I still do. If you care in any way about a valid adult discussion of this topic from me, and not on this thread of Jason's blog, but somewhere more appropriate, I expect, and only if you are sincere, an apology for your actions here to each person you have offended via your arrogance, lack of manners, self adsorbed lack of comprehension of their words or view, and general laziness. If all that is too much, pick one, it's a start. I hope someday you learn the difference between stirring the pot and pissing in the soup. And if you care not about my opinion, or genuinely feel an apology is due and could help clear the air, then fair enough, have a nice day.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/17/2013 10:34:53 am

It IS truly funny, isn't it … ???

WHY … NOT …
take a
… LOOK …
at … The Big Bad Book … ???

I dunno … LOL ...

SCOTT LUND

12/17/2013 11:09:43 am

LOL Yes, it is funny, So much material, so many times I could have lit him up, but I have avoided responding. This last email from the subscription coming through, I'm thinking he can not really be like that in life....seriously, not for real and not also be in prison or live in a cabin in Idaho's backwoods writing his manifesto or something...

Oh shyt, maybe THAT's why he is a "former" geologist? Have you seen Shaw Shank Redemption?? What if he got a rock hammer from Morgan Freeman? Think he will find me here in ahhh, ummm....Montana? I'll end up tied in a cabin reading night night stories from Scott's book to him. Darn, the book did have a way of opening itself.

I am surprised at how calm you have been Reverend, and accommodating with minimal sarcasm knowing the predictable results and such. I must say, and I am not trying to brown nose, but you have shown admirable character above and beyond human reasoning. I am curious to know what you see and that I, in my irritation, have missed.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/17/2013 03:17:34 pm

Anybody who takes an honestly OPEN-minded look at Scott Wolter's book on the Kensington Rune Stone … will at a minimum be IMPRESSED at how thorough Scott's investigation was …

I dunno … Why NOT … ??? It's no *secret* … it's IN PRINT ...

SCOTT LUND

12/18/2013 04:52:16 am

Reverend, he wins, I think it is time we give him the "Secret" Templar code. But Please? Can I endear one favor? Could we possibly skip the "Blood Oath and Sacrifice" part in this instance? Seriously, I'm tired and do not want to hear the whining about how he has to go out and buy a damn chicken.

Ray

12/17/2013 04:35:20 pm

Lots of antics, lots of insults, lots more words posted, still more avoidance.

I admire your faith - but not your critical thinking skills.

Only Me

12/17/2013 05:18:16 pm

Okay, first, I've never read Scott's book. I, personally, don't believe the KRS has been proven, beyond reasonable doubt, to be either a hoax or genuine. That being said, I did do some research of my own about it out of curiosity. I'll try to answer the dating method question as best I can, but I am operating strictly from memory, so if I get something wrong, it's not intentional.

1) A two inch diameter core sample was taken from the KRS for geological study.

2) There is an alleged "line" above some visible wear and discoloration on the stone, thought to show how it was, at one time, buried partially in the ground, upright. Tombstones of known age were studied, to determine the amount of wear on the portion buried in the ground. By comparing the wear patterns of the tombstones with the KRS, a rough estimate was made as to how long it had stood. This was one test to determine age.

3) Wolter and Richard Nielsen went to Gotland and discovered that the runes on the KRS resembled those found in churches there. One church in particular, Roma Abbey, was founded in 1164, so that would mean its possible the similar runes were in use before the 1362 date on the KRS. Wolter further used a Swedish Easter Dating Table, which would have been in use before and after the date on the KRS, to translate specific runes that had been "slashed". Supposedly, these specific runes represented the date, 1362, meaning whoever carved the stone double-dated it.

That's all I can recall, without further online research. Rev, if I'm wrong on anything, feel free to jump in.

I hope this helps, Ray.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/18/2013 04:10:10 am

Yes …

In his book, "The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence" (2006) in its 574 pages (!!!), Scott Wolter gives EXTENSIVE detail of his EXHAUSTIVE and THOROUGH study of several lines of evidence, all of which indicate authenticity …

There is no *secret* in any of this … His book has been openly published and available for now nearly a DECADE …

Ray

12/18/2013 08:25:23 am

Let me expand a bit. I'm not looking for a simple, popular-book level discussion of the matter. I'm looking for a scientific discussion of it. The book just won't do. That's why I'm being such a stickler about this. Wolter should have done a proper study of his method and published his results where others expert in the field could evaluate it. Without doing this we have to take Wolter at his word about the efficacy of his method - and that is NEVER done.

Further, his method seems to be entirely subjective and not in any way reproducible. IOW, he can not assure us that personal bias won't color the results. That's not acceptable in science.

It sounds as if Wolter is simply LOOKING at the sample and claiming to determine its age merely by its appearance. That's NOT age dating - that's guessing. I was hoping for something quite a bit more substantive than mere guesswork. And if there's anything more to the method than that Wolter needs to be up front about it and tell us. That's what I've been asking for: a well-documented discussion that illustrates reproducibility. And an article in a scientific journal would accomplish just that. Then the method could be tested and analyzed by others. Further, we have no idea if Wolter has even tested the idea himself and determined its accuracy and precision. We're left with nothing but his subjective guesswork.

So that's what it boils down to: Either Wolter is merely guessing at the sample's age or there's more to the method than he's letting out - in which case his method is a secret. I'll say it again: subjective guesswork or a secret method. Neither of these possibilities are acceptable in real science. But Wolter and his faithful followers can't or won't follow the rules of science and can't see the need to avoid subjectivity and/or secrecy.

And clearly, reading his book won't accomplish any of this. In fact, for me things are the other way around: First I need to be shown that his age determination method is valid, THEN maybe I'll read his book.

SCOTT LUND

12/18/2013 02:31:04 pm

Ray! Fantastic Post! I am bummed my flustered response to another post is right below that, as your post was an interesting read and it seemed to explain your position and reason quite well. You would have to ask the Reverend as to the availability of any other type of scientific journal on the procedure, but I believe and assume he has mentioned the book a couple of times as he, as a learned man, (and I do not think you realize how much) feels that the comprehensive descriptions explained in the book more than meet the criteria required for a scientific journal and it's method for proof without bias. It is unfortunate that without seeing this method first in the way it appears you can only accept to negate subjectivity and or bias, that you may be missing the exact truth or untruth you seek. When you put it the way you just did, and the way I think I understand it, I am sorry that I can not provide what you are looking for to complete your search in the way you have been taught and accept. And please do accept that it is not that I know and will not share, The book and pages Reverend Phil mentioned, and Scott Wolter showing the 7 peer reviews on that Norwegian documentary. That show by the way, very well balanced in their showing of alternate positions on the runes interpretation here and in Scandinavia. No one wins the day with a last dig at their own truth, just present two aspects in an unbiased way. The only bias would be their tour guide for the two years is Steve Hilgren and he is a firm believer and great advocate for Norse exploration. He also is the one to rediscover the missing Roseau Rune Stones whereabouts in a drawer at the U of MN. If you did not know, this is a small round stone about an inch in diameter, originally found by a local, last name Jackson(?) in his Roseau garden back in 1928. They were thought to be Norse runes, but it now appears that they are of old Russian origin. Thanks for playing too much information and good luck Ray, good or bad, I hope you find the answer that satisfies your mind.

SCOTT LUND

12/18/2013 08:21:51 am

Avoidance???

How completely deluded are you again and again and again????

For the last time, either read the whole post, or have mommy read it too you before you respond and waste even more time with drivel.

That was straight between your eyes right at the object of YOUR discussion and at your lack of intelligent response to anything at all
....I even told you how to find and accomplish reading your requested info without paying for it.!
Or do you NOT know what a Barnes and Noble type establishment refers too?

But in the voice of John Belushi.."NooooooOOOOOooooo" You just respond inappropriately, and confirm you are deluded...Perhaps you can understand this analogy...Ray, you sound like the Iraq Defense minister during the war ,when the Americans were already in Baghdad, saying that Iraq is destroying the American infidels .. I laughed then, but I am crying now as I just realized how fricken stupid am I to fall for your Andy Kaufman act.

An insult many times is when you disparage with an untruth. No obvious insults in my posts.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/18/2013 09:06:02 am

Ummm … I still obviously don't "get" it ...

What are the data, methods, evidence, and conclusions presented and documented in Scott Wolter's book (2006) that CAN'T be checked, reviewed, and analyzed by any and all interested scholars and investigators … ???

What scientific journal ANYWHERE will publish a 574 page "paper" … ??? (hint: there are NONE) ...

Again … ANYONE who wants to understand, review, critique, dispute, replicate, enlarge upon, discuss or demolish Scott Wolter's exceedingly THOROUGH studies on the Kensington Rune Stone is FREE to do so … or NOT …

The book is widely available … It isn't difficult to read and understand … It's not exceptionally expensive … It's VERY interesting …

GO FOR IT … or not … *whatever*

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/18/2013 02:59:26 pm

"I want -- no, I DEMAND !!! -- to be presented with such convincing evidence that I don't even have to LOOK at it ... and only THEN will I look at the evidence … !!!"

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/18/2013 03:58:56 pm

Coming UP on 1,000 posted comments on this blog … !!! WOW … !!!

Ray

12/18/2013 06:08:04 pm

I don't know why you guys still don't get it. Perhaps the problem is that I gave you too much credit for what you think you know about how science works. That may be why my posts never got through to you.

Let me respond by saying that there has NEVER been any age determination method that was not submitted for peer-review and hashed out and refined before it was accepted for use by anyone. But apparently you still think that Wolter's method should get some kind of special treatment (a clear double standard) and should not have to go through the same process as all the others. Please tell me why you think he never submitted it for peer-review in the first place. Whenever I see an end-run around the accepted protocol it raises flags as there is a long history of people trying to get their pseudoscience past the protocol that exists to weed it out.

Second, I saw no acknowledgement of the subjective nature of Wolter's method in your responses. If you don't think his method is subjective then convince me that it's not. And show me that he's not merely guessing. I'm looking for something - a numerical result, a chemical result, any kind of physical parameters - that can give me something to grab a hold of that will nail things down and actually demonstrate a dependable age (the same way I can depend on an age determined by radiometric dating, for example).

Third, I also saw no mention of the fact that there is no measure of accuracy or precision for Wolter's method in your posts. Is this not important? How are we to know how accurate and precise it is if it hasn't been put through the rigors of testing? Did Wolter do this before he used it on the KRS? If so, that needs to be made apparent so we can see it and judge for ourselves whether or not his method actually works. Without that you must have faith. Only after we have been shown the efficacy of the method can we have confidence enough to use it (that's why Phil Gotsch's post "I want -- no, I DEMAND !!! --", is so off base as to be laughable and shows a serious misunderstanding of the scientific process).

Finally, a book at the popular level is not the place for this and it couldn't be, as the kind of detail necessary to describe the process sufficiently would render the book unreadable for the general public. So no, there can be no detail in the book sufficient to make the method testable. And no, a scientific paper would not be 574 pages nor would it need to be. Please don't be so naive as to think that the necessary and detailed information can't be efficiently written into a paper just a few pages long (the original article in a scientific journal published by Louis and Walter Alvarez that made a case for an asteroid impact that wiped out the dinosaurs was less than two pages long).

One more thing: Phil Gotsch refers to Wolter's "exceedingly THOROUGH studies". But are they? How do you actually know that? Are you not simply allowing your on biases to color your perception of the method simply because you like Wolter's results? I've seen creationists pad each others' work to build it up and that works quite well for the believers. So when I see a defense such as yours those red flags go up again.

A final question: How would the rate of weathering on the surfaces of the KRS be different for a sample that has been buried in soil versus a sample that has been on the surface for its entire existence? Does Wolter discuss this? I so, has he come to any dependable conclusion about how to know it when he sees it or does he just think he can see the difference by looking at it? An honest answer to this question would be worthy of another article in a scientific journal (in fact, if he had done all of this properly there would have been MANY opportunities in this for multiple papers to be published - yet he has never taken any such opportunity! That has to say something.)

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/19/2013 12:12:38 am

Well … IF you want to KNOW exactly how Scott Wolter went about studying the KRS from several angles -- mineralogy, the runes themselves, and contemporaneous documentation -- it is all THERE in DETAIL in his 574 page book ..

Either LOOK at it .. or don't … I dunno ...

Ray

12/19/2013 05:01:45 pm

I don't think you have a ghost of a chance of understanding what I've been saying. I doubt that you even read my posts - you certainly don't respond to what's in them. You seem to think the fact that a 574 page book exists is evidence enough and shouldn't be questioned. I'd say your biases are quite obvious.

SCOTT LUND

12/19/2013 03:43:26 am

Ray, I am unsure if you are aware one dedicated problem of specific determination of the KRS is the fact that it was cleaned thoroughly in the early 1900's with perhaps a wire brush I believe. You are aware of how important original material is to access age. Just in that alone, I do not believe it can never be assessed on its own merits, and there will always be a view it can never be validated whether or not there is a journal to your standards. Well there may not be a quote journal, neither was there a book conceived before the assessment of this, nor did Wolter know or ever speak of things related to his show up to this assessment, he was only a neutral professional hired to do a job. So, Scott Wolter went into this "Job" as just that, a Job. He was indifferent to the results being anything other than the truth, a truth that would not come back to bite his professional ass, nor the ass of the experts involved. Some of those world renown experts were employed by universities and respected institutions, and well aware of the protocol of proof, and I assume better than you and much better than I. You may be wondering what this all has to do with your post, and just to be clear I am trying to decrease your suspicion, and what I feel based off the actual history of the process, unwarranted level of challenging Mr Wolter's subjectivity and motive. Also, while a legal conclusion to you may not be considered proof, it is additional evidence that lends support to validity and proof that general society has to accept. Scott Wolter has never had a case in court go against the testimony he professionally provided. Ray, I am trying to show you there was a respected professional that prior to the show would not have accrued as much scrutiny from you had you observed him then. I guess I am calling your call for evidence a call motivated by an inappropriate level of prejudice, and that is not accurate science either. So Ray, honestly, even if you read and assessed the work by the journal format you seek, could you yourself trust your results to be impartial and completely accurate knowing your mind set coming into this?, Would they or could they be the same as the results found by a neutral peer of your exact same experience, knowledge and intelligence? When I look at that question to you, I understand more of your need to question.

Also, has Stephen Hawking ever authored a journal?
Cause that man is very intelligent, but he is also incorrect in most of his assumptions, especially those on black holes. He, in my opinion combines present day knowledge and personal fantasy into a farce he tries to cram down the throats of science as fact using his intelligence as a weapon akin to the mental weapons used by con men.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/19/2013 11:14:56 am

Again … patiently … relentlessly … entirely REASONABLY …

In his 574 page book (2006), Scott Wolter THOROUGHLY documented his researches on the Kensington Rune Stone … ANYONE who wishes to begin to understand what he did, how and why he drew his conclusions, is FREE to READ the book … or not …

*whatever*

I am again reminded of that Medieval guy who was just absolutely totally SURE that Jupiter had no moons and Saturn had no rings … but REFUSED to take even a glance through the telescope ...

Ray

12/19/2013 04:36:01 pm

Phil Gotsch, you're repeating yourself and you're not really saying anything anyway.

And I note that you haven't addressed anything I've said. Thanks for wasting my time.

Ray

12/19/2013 04:54:50 pm

First, I note that like Phil Gotsch, you never actually respond to my points and instead ask me to believe.

Second, your post amounts to little more than a statement of your affection for Wolter. That means nothing in a discussion that (at least on my part) is a call for a discussion about evidence.

Third, it's absurd for you to try to spin my call for evidence as something motivated by prejudice. That amounts to an excuse designed to deflect the issue away from the evidence. Clearly your lack of willingness to see the problem is a result of your own prejudice.

Fourth, I have no axe to grind as I don't personally care whether the Vikings or Columbus were here first (I am of both Norwegian and Italian ancestry). I'm simply not willing to accept anything that falls short on the evidence. I've debated creationists, believers in UFOs and Bigfoot among others, and I have to say that the pattern is clear an consistent: they all make the same attempts to circumnavigate the scientific process as you and Wolter.

Fifth, Stephen Hawking has had his work published in scientific journals. That's a requirement of his position. His popular books are as much speculation as anything else but that is separate from what he does as a scientist. And note that there's nothing wrong with being wrong if you've respected the process.

SCOTT LUND

12/20/2013 01:06:35 pm

Ray, I was absolutely addressing your point of contention as to Wolters subjectivity in that he knew nothing about all these topics related to "America Unearthed" prior to the study, and adding to that with the mention of his spotless record in court when he testifies. Personally not knowing him, nor being a biographer that recorded his daily life, I guess I have no way to prove any of it too you, so for you to read his book would not waste my time.

As to your question on the differences in weathering between that which was exposed above the soil level and that which was not, I mentioned that the stone was wire brushed in the early 1900's, so I assumed you would know that partially answered your question in that a great deal was compromised and I am not at all qualified to comment on behalf of Mr Wolter to try to prove his methods, nor other than generalizations, should I try, and shall repeat what Reverend Phil said and ask you to read the book, letting Mr Wolter speak for himself, and therefore not wasting my time.

As to my "spin" of the prejudice label because of your claim for evidence, that is a misdirection of the truth Ray, my claim is true and based off your many prior comments about Mr Wolter directly, and your exaggerations of situations and contact involving Mr Wolter, you are indeed prejudice and any results you discover can truthfully be considered tainted by that prejudice. Your attempt misdirection itself is either a blatant lie in its denial, or evading the answering of my question regarding your own opinion if your results could be as impartial and accurate as a comparable peer. The answer is you can not Ray, you are tainted goods, and the Lord may forgive, but science does not. If you believe in accurate science Ray, I am asking you to disqualify yourself from this conversation, and while I think your claim of my affection for Mr Wolter is one of your exaggerations, I will also disqualify myself from this conversation and wish everyone a Happy Festivus of Holidays.

John Ballas

12/18/2013 06:41:11 pm

I cannot believe what I read in this blog site. My best take is there are many people with some serious issues that like to blog here. It is a Television show for Christ sake! Television is for entertainment. Maybe some of you experts can make some light of all of these paranormal Ghost shows on Syfy? Every one here seems to want to make a big deal out of a Honorary Degree. This degree was Awarded in public. And An "Award" is all that it is and that is all it was meant to be. My little nephew is in the Cub Scouts and when he get awarded his pins for his accomplishments. That is much all that they are. Awards. This does not make him Survivorman now does it? Let me ask you all this? Is this all the better you can do? Have you guys have no life? I can think of something better to do. Possibly get on "On Demand" and watch a rerun of America Unearthed. Or maybe you guys should have your own television show. I wonder what it would be called? Now I will wait for all of your most intelligent comments. Since you are all experts in the field of criticism.

ray

12/18/2013 06:53:22 pm

Yes, it's a television show. But it purports to make statements of fact. And the fact is that many people (most?) get their news and information from TV - even shows like this one. Doesn't that obligate us to analyze its content? Or shall we all play dumb and pretend that there are no consequences when a TV show tells us that history is wrong?

John Ballas

12/18/2013 08:22:42 pm

Consequences? I see no real threat. No more than Barack Obama claims he is a real leader of our country. Or no more threat than the Film "The Patriot" While the movie has no real value or truth to it and never occurred as the movie portrays. And if you have seen this Film you would clearly see that General Gates leads the Continental Army until the Movies end at the Battle of Bunker Hill and Cornwallis is defeated. Which had never happened. General Gates was defeated in the Battle of Camden in the Carolinas in 1780. Here her abandoned his Army and rode back to the north where he was relieved of duty and never commanded again. Nathaniel Greene took over the Continental Army in the South and finished the war causing great losses for the British And they had to retreat to the north at Bunker Hill to receive reinforcements. That never arrived. This movie had no consequences. And was very popular. The only consequences we have to worry about is that the teachers in our schools care less about teaching the accuracy of our history. Most High school graduates do not even know when World War 2 was fought. Let alone what happened in that war. So Scott Wolter's opinion on the history of North America and whether it is wrong or not has no relevance. The real problem is in the schools and not some television show.

Ray

12/19/2013 04:33:08 pm

A movie is not intended as a documentary which purports to tell us the facts. A movie is a drama. Wolter's TV show attempts to tell us about history. That means it has consequences.

And please spare me your dumbass politics.

SCOTT LUND

12/20/2013 03:15:05 am

Ray, you said "But it purports to make statements of fact" Don't you mean "markets" to make statement of possible fact?
Ray, I enjoy "American Unearthed" and obviously support the possibilities of unknown history discussed through undefined evidence and the vocalized interpretation of that material.
Our discussion of the KRS findings from my view are not at all the same and are completely different than the show. The show is a show Ray, same as "Patriot", same as "Braveheart". I'm sorry you have fallen for the marketing to think that only proven facts are presented and the history presented is the only accurate record true fans of the show should adhere too, But it is a show, a dramatized show with good elements of truth and/or possibilities at it's foundation.
In all the discussions here as to truth and proof, other than the KRS, have you seen me once, or the Reverend once, or any fan that popped in to share their thoughts, ever argue to the side of any of the "American Unearthed" episodes or subjects are solid undisputed fact? No, because it is a show Ray, and that is what we fans look at it as, a form or entertainment that strokes the speculative fantasy of us that searched for pirate treasure as a kid in Widow Tudor's back yard. I am not saying anything about any ideas from the show being wrong or right, just possible and fun to think about.

You really do not see past the marketing and claim the show is claiming absolute fact? Can I sell you perpetual motion machine? It includes a scientific journal? 100% money Back Guarantee! (However, you are responsible for return postage and handling fees twice the actual original price paid)

SCOTT LUND

12/20/2013 08:09:45 am

In my enjoyment of the rich humor derived from the irony of Ray's viewpoint and those critics of "America Unearthed" just like him, I think I understand a small part of why Scott Wolter has not responded more in defense of certain subjects or posts, and what the phase, "Any Publicity is Good Publicity" means. I can only glean from all these discussions that Mr Wolter's show is done so well, and his purported statements of fact so convincing, and so close to a reality some are thinking exists, that his critics look at it as more of a documentary than an entertainment forum showing light on possibilities and discussion of strange ancient American phenomenon. Your skepticism in fact denotes more credibility to the unknowing public drawing more of the public to assume it is more fact than speculation. I LOVE IT!

And just to be clear, I am not stating the show is only entertainment, and has no "documentary" value, there are a great deal of opinions and discussions I am prone to agree either with, or that there is something to them that time shall uncover, and uncover sooner thanks to Scott F. Wolter's work.

Teresa Daw

4/7/2014 06:32:50 pm

At first I was excited about the premise of this show. But now it is in the same category as the "Ghost Hunters" "Bigfoot seekers" and "Ancient Aliens" ....my comedy channel. Scott Wolter is hilarious! He is so deluded that everything of any sort of mystery MUST have come to the United States because...um...well where else is there worthy to be the resting place of the Arc of the Covenant? And all the goof balls that actually buy into this great steaming load of crap....Oh stop, please. My side ache with laughing. At first I thought I should complain to the History Channel but now I find I can't miss an episode...its just too funny. Say "Hi" to Amelia Earhart for me when you find her in a tree in Central Park where the less intrepid have been overlooking her crash site all these years. Ever stop and think why so many people in the Establishment of Real Scientists aren't speaking to him anymore. ..enough said, they don't want their Real research and credible work dragged onto the Monty Python Show. Gotta go...Long Island Medium is on.....ba ha ha ha!!!!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/20/2013 02:26:11 am

So, "Ray" …

You're NOT going to take even a casual passing skim through Scott Wolter's book on the KRS, eh … ???

Ray

12/20/2013 05:41:46 pm

I really don't know why you're here. I'm here to discuss and debate the issues but your participation amounts to nothing more than referring me elsewhere. Does that mean that you really don't understand what Wolter's alleged dating method is all about? I would expect that if you knew anything about it and could defend it that you would do so when challenged. But your comments here amount to little more than heckling and evasion.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/21/2013 02:38:37 am

Ummm … Ray … Sorry to point this out, but you are the one here engaged in "heckling and evasion" …

In his book, "The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence" (2006), on pages 13 to 47, Scott Wolter explains and documents in DETAIL his study of the weathering of the minerals in the incised Runes, leading him to conclude that it was IMPOSSIBLE for the KRS to have been a late 19th century hoax …

Either READ the stuff, or not … I have neither time nor inclination to type up pages and pages and pages of technical material (with accompanying photographs) … just because you're apparently too lazy to look at the book on your own …

*what*ever*

John Ballas

12/20/2013 08:05:28 am

Scott, I like how you made your comment. You are absolutely right. It is only a show for entertainment purposes. But Ray wants to push the envelope and make it, Oh, so serious. that it has consequences. I mean come on, Really???? Do you think anybody really cares? And how do you like how Ray did not like my dumb ass political comment??? Hehehehe. Now we know which way Ray does lean.
And speaking of strange things. Here is another dumb ass comment that is political and means absolutely nothing, nor does it have consequences. More people believe in the possibility of "Big Foots" existence than believe Obamacare will work. And I heard about this on the major News Networks. So the bottom line is, leave Scott Wolter be, and make his interesting shows. Because I as a fan love the show. And his opinions about history are what makes this show great. I am not so critical about any show. I take them for what they are worth. And respect what the show purports. Just as I graciously respect Rays opinion.

John Ballas

12/20/2013 08:05:33 am

John Ballas

12/20/2013 08:05:44 am

SCOTT LUND

12/20/2013 08:30:07 am

John, Thanks for your kind words,, sometimes I wonder if I am the only one who can understand my ramble and babble. I like how you kept hitting enter when told your post did not post, everyone has done that on occasion, sometimes more than twice. It shows you are human. MSN used to have that issue with their threads, and after a while, I learned that when I get that message I should just hit refresh and it will publish the post.

Ray

12/20/2013 05:34:11 pm

If you don't want to take the show seriously, fine, don't take it seriously. But at least be adult enough to not mock someone for having a different opinion than yours.

And, no, I won't leave Scott Wolter be. Now go back under your bridge and stop inserting your childish and pointless drivel into a discussion that you can't possibly understand.

John Ballas

12/20/2013 07:25:12 pm

Ray I respect the fact that you have an opinion. But your comments are garnished with a jealousy that is quite obvious. As I see it, You are a wanabe who comes here acting like you know something about the KRS and you are such an expert. But I have been working in this field of study for some time and I do get paid well for doing my job. And as for pointless and childish drivel. And based on your moronic comments. Your intelligence shines right on through. I will bet my sons know more about geology and dating than you do. Go back to school and study something.

John Ballas

12/20/2013 08:18:17 am

Sorry about my multiple listings. Connection really sucks about now. Scott, Just wanted to say that "Braveheart" was a cool movie. I liked that also. Yes, I did notice some differences in the accuracy of that movie also. But all was done to make the movie more exciting and was not so bad. Now we will see what negative comments come next on this blog?

SCOTT LUND

12/20/2013 08:52:01 am

Exactly John, media said it was a true story, but I have yet to see a true story without dramatic license utilized. That movie never showed that the time he was gone learning was as a monk in Glasgow I believe, and that he was from a wealthy family. It said his uncle took him away and taught him respect for freedom, but it was a Bishop that indoctrinated him there. The killing of his wife he married in secret being the spark starting the fire, that is thought to be accurate. But as to open field warfare? No, it was at Sterling Bridge he let a couple thousand through and then slaughtered them, sending the rest that witnessed the lack of chivalrous tactics to run away. BUT, I agree with you John, great movie, inaccurate many times, but I found the truth only by inspiration of epic film. Without it, perhaps I would have no idea of what I just wrote above, and I enjoyed finding out all the info I wrote above. I am a little miffed though....Mel Gibson will not send me a copy of his historical journal verifying that Scotland existed before 1996...it takes all kinds, ya know?

SCOTT LUND

12/20/2013 08:56:34 am

And before you tell me that my copy of the DVD has all that information in the Extras under "The Making of Brave Heart", I should not have to go out and buy new batteries for my remote, come back home and push a button....not gonna happen.

(Light Hearted Fun Ray)

John Ballas

12/20/2013 09:40:02 am

Really? There were extras on the DVD? I did not know that. Now I have to check it out. I think it is great that the inaccuracies lead you to learn more about really happened. I have also learned that at Sterling Bridge is where it all started. It is good to know this. Even before you watch the movie. So in your mind you know the truth before you enjoy the Drama. How cool is that? History is such a great subject, no matter how people want to see it. Mystery is also a great aspect of it. Makes us want to know more.

Ray

12/20/2013 05:45:09 pm

Scott, I really don't care if you think the show is just entertainment. It's not just entertainment for me, and I've said why.

Ray

12/20/2013 05:58:28 pm

Scott Lund wrote: "...I mentioned that the stone was wire brushed in the early 1900's..."

And yet you don't see any problems this creates for the date Wolter's got for the KRS? Doesn't even a nonexpert understand the problem that such an alteration of the surface weathering creates for any age supposedly determined from it? See, this is what I mean when I say that you guys go on the basis of faith. An honest and reasonable person would immediately question the date derived from it - but not you guys. And that has been my point all along.

SCOTT LUND

12/20/2013 10:27:25 pm

Ray, you say that has been your point all along? So a final example of how you base your condemnation and strange retorts towards myself and others is based off of evidence such as my post about the wire brushing and myself not seeing any connection to that throwing off the dating? Hmmmm....

Seriously?????

'Cause right after I wrote that I wrote this...."You are aware of how important original material is to access age. Just in that alone, I do not believe it can never be assessed on its own merits, and there will always be a view it can never be validated whether or not there is a journal to your standards."

So I do not understand that that can affect age detection??

In fact, to following up to you I wrote...."As to your question on the differences in weathering between that which was exposed above the soil level and that which was not, I mentioned that the stone was wire brushed in the early 1900's, so I assumed you would know that partially answered your question in that a great deal was compromised and I am not at all qualified to comment on behalf of Mr Wolter to try to prove his methods, nor other than generalizations, should I try"

So is this Black and White enough to show that your point never really did have a point? Or would you prefer it in Journal format?

Ray, all banter aside, you must have some potential or something to offer or your posts would only hear the sound of crickets. This example shows there are things you say a post does not contain and in fact they are actually there. This has happened on numerous occasions, not every time, but enough to be noticed and questioned. Is it that you see a portion of a response and before you can finish reading it a bunch of real good ideas emerge going from one idea and then connecting to the next? If you look back at the my original posts I feel you missed certain information on and see that beyond the crap I am giving you, I am accurate even somewhat on you missing information, do you find yourself aggravated because you could have swore you read the whole post and that part was not there? Please, do not answer here whether or not there is anything to my questions, seriously. If you are going through what I think you are going through, it is a tough situation, and even tougher if you do not recognize it as it will destroy your self esteem in not knowing why you function the way you do. That destruction can be either your own inner conflict of things, simple things, not going the way they normally should once too often, OR people accuse you of things unjustly and you feel they just do not understand you, it is their problem and they are wrong about you. If this rings a bell, I can give you an email. If I am wrong and presumptuous, tell me to fvck off..it will not bother me a bit and I understand. I do hope I am wrong and you say fvck off, but if I am right I hope you are able to ask why.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/21/2013 02:31:29 am

In his book, Scott Wolter explains in detail how he studied the weathering of minerals in the incised Runes ...

SCOTT LUND

12/21/2013 11:24:35 am

Ray, Reverend is so very correct in his repeating of this too you, and your reasons that this is not proper are wrong. Why waste time and try to explain and debate each aspect of the methods used and validity of when it is the whole process that was credible. How can you expect to be an asset to a debate when you are unaware of the material other than second hand relay as your foundation if your request was granted?? That is what you are asking, second hand relay first leading to a fruitless discussion that is therefore a waste of time. Your request is so very contrary to the accurate protocol of discovery you champion. Can you see that at all??? even a little bit???

ray

12/21/2013 05:16:09 pm

I'm sorry that you can't control yourself and that you must resort to personal attacks because you can't understand what I'm saying. I'm also sorry that you think that a compromised sample can still provide you with confidence in an age determination. I'm also sorry that you think a TV show that's only half in English is equivalent to a peer-reviewed study. And I'm sorry that you have such confidence in an alleged dating method that has never been put before experts in dating before it was published in a popular book. I'm also sorry that you think science is done that way. And of course, I'm sorry that you just don't care that referring me somewhere else is equivalent to answering my questions. Oh, and I'm sorry that your take on what constitutes science is no better than what the creationists, the UFOlogists, the Bigfoot believers, the alternative medicine believers, the conspiracy buffs, etc. call science. Other than all of that, you're doing just fine. Have fun with your personal attacks-in-lieu-of-science belief system. Toodles.

SCOTT LUND

12/21/2013 11:11:38 am

the above post had a typo..."I do not believe it can never be assessed on its own merits" was suppose to say "I do not believe it can "ever" be assessed on it's own merits. I think the surrounding context shows that it was a typo, but just to be clear....

John Ballas

12/23/2013 01:11:27 pm

Merry Christmas everyone.

SCOTT LUND

12/23/2013 01:14:30 pm

And a very Merry Christmas to you John.

John Ballas

12/23/2013 02:19:56 pm

I have noticed here that all is hashing out the dating systems being used and what is right or wrong. Also I have noticed on Scott Wolters show that he is always trying to figure out who has made the Runes and where these individuals were heading. And how old the Runes are. Well it seems to me if we start taking a harder look at studying the Scandinavian Peninsula. The people who lived there and there cultures then maybe we could better understand who and why these people have decided that they should come here. For riches or land claims or what not. And Ultimately we can sit here and argue the facts on proper dating systems all we want. But in the end we do not find the real answers we are looking for. And these answers are going to be very difficult to find whether we like it or not. Because most of the people that make up Sweden, Norway, Demark, and Finland are all Enthnic Slavs who migrated to the north from central Europe, and of those, Originated from just south of the Caucasus Mountains. And the reason I do know this is because over 60% of all who live in this region today have a shared DNA Haplogroup R1 mutation M253 that Is connected with all Slavs that migrated to central Europe and to the north into what we now know as Scandinavia.
Ethnic Slavs are carriers of the R1a DNA, R1ala Mutations specifically, and always keep in mind that different Haplogroups ( Goths, Dacian ,Huns, Khazars, Rus Vikings, Finno - Urgies, Mongols, Balts, Romani Gypsies, Ottoman Turks, Tater, etc.) And with all of these cultures mixed in to form the inhabitants of the area the Vikings come from. We get all sorts of symbols and writings with meaning almost all things we could not possibly understand. So the must have been many different tribes in these Nordic areas that could have made up the different peoples who have come here and made these Runes we try to figure out. Also I welcome anyone here try to sort out all of this. Because I have been trying to do this for years. And if you can, you can surely figure out all questions about the Runes. Have fun.......

Jon Bryant

12/25/2013 01:32:18 pm

Jon Bryant12/24/2013 2:46am
Scott, I'm a long time fan and enjoy your TV shows a lot. I don't agree with everything I see/hear on your shows, but they are interesting and definitely provoke thought and discussion. An interest of mine is the "early man controversy" ......when did man first appear in North America? Have you ever investigated, or do you plan to investigate, the Early Man site at Calico, California, or the Texas Street archeological site in San Diego, California? These are only two of many sites in North America that provide evidence (in great dispute) of human habitation in North America dating back 200,000 years or so. I've read about these different sites and the differing and conflicting interpretations of the "evidence" of early human presence in North America. I would like to see a program such as yours explore this controversy, and expose these sites and explain the evidence/artifacts found in them. I think it would be a very interesting topic and would evoke lots of controversy (just what you need more of !! :) )

joe

12/28/2013 04:38:53 pm

Tara jordan your a bitch you should try getting out there as oppose to sitting on a computer and commenting on a blog on a blog congratulations your 0 degrees away from being retarded

Tara Jordan link

1/4/2014 01:57:53 pm

Unfortunately I am the type of bitch you can't afford.

John Ballas

1/4/2014 03:07:56 pm

Is the "bitch" label you just received a standard degree or an Honorary degree? And did you have to take any classes for that?))))

Wow? some peoples kids.........

Jason Rumsey

2/22/2014 06:26:34 am

No, just the type of bitch I would throw overboard in a sea storm, but that's beside the point. I have to tell you, if your job on this site is to work people up, you are doing a great job, if you don't have a job on this site then you REALLY NEED to stop calling people retarded moronic and the like. This is of course your own personnel opinion but if you value your health I would stop. Just saying, there are allot of psychopaths out there and you pushing their buttons is not a good idea, ask your boyfriend Jason. You can find anyone nowadays, all you need is a name, which you have provided and important knowledge that you have also provided out in your blogs. I am just trying to let you know that some people don't take to kindly to others attacking their character or even there mental status.

Jason Colavito link

2/22/2014 06:39:00 am

Enough, Jason. As per my new comments policy of 1/24/14, personal attack and insults will now result in automatic deletion. This is your warning.

FAAQ2

12/29/2013 11:17:29 am

I find it rather funny that everyone seems to think that Scott Wolter is full of crap - and yet probably believe that Al Gore - a shameless charlatan claims that global warming is real. And Oh yes the earth is the only place where intelligent life exists in the Universe. I don't see you so called experts stepping up and claiming anything other then you are correct and Scott is wrong - and the same ones that think only an overweight italian in 3 ships found North America in 1492..

John Ballas

12/29/2013 12:29:57 pm

Was Columbus overweight? Lol...... I thought you had to live in United States to get Fat. Maybe he discovered weightwatchers too.....

SCOTT LUND

12/29/2013 08:47:03 pm

So if I understand you correctly, Al Gore, the overweight Italian, is causing global warming because Charlotte's Tan is shameless and you do not see anyone in the universe stepping up to argue it would only take 3 ships to find intelligent life to verify they are correct and Scott is wrong because they are the same ones who say Al Gore found North America...OK, I agree

John Ballas

12/30/2013 11:26:15 am

Scott, Remember this? Al Gore invented the internet??? What a prolific man. Just for the fun of it. I should check if he has any Honorary Degrees. Maybe in ecology or climatology.

SCOTT LUND

1/4/2014 06:39:43 am

Of course he invented it, he is the first authority in AlGoreRythm's...

SCOTT LUND

1/4/2014 06:46:37 am

And yes, now you too are infected. Ever since I first linked algorithm with Al Gor Rythm, I have not been able to think of one without the other, it will NOT leave my head...Kinda like the kids and their Barney Songs.

Your Welcome!

Joe Welch

12/29/2013 06:43:39 pm

Scott,

I just viewed your program on Burrows Cave. I live in the Iuka area and have hiked on the property countless times. There is absolutely no evidence of a cave on that particular property.

Evidence is necessary to either validate or falsify a hypothesis. No evidence means no conclusion can be made. Could there be a cave? Certainly. If there is a cave, could it be filled with Egyptian gold artifacts? Certainly. And I have an invisible companion who constantly advises me in all aspects of my life. Without evidence... verifiable evidence... you can't make a valid inference or conclusion.

Why not have experts from the University of Illinois (or other university) validate Mr. Hubbard's artifacts? My experience with academics indicates that you would get an objective... and expert... opinion.

Until you have evidence of a cave and Egyptian artifacts... you have nothing. There is no cave.

Joe

John Ballas

12/30/2013 11:19:30 am

I want to go back to the comments about Scott Wolters Honorary Degree. I was just on Ancestry .com. I was there researching my next project. And I did com across some information on George Washington. I thought it was interesting. I will paste this word for word from the site.
When George Washington died on December 14, 1799 at nearly sixty-eight years of age, he would have lived twenty years less than his childhood mentor. Certainly the stress of war battles and being a two-term first US President had taken a great toll on his overall health. Yet, I cannot help but wonder how George Washington, the richest, most respected, powerful, and beloved man of the new country, would have spent an additional twenty years of living had the Master granted him those days. Possibly he, like Fairfax had done with young George, would have found a young lad whom he could mentor? Of course, that is only my own wish! But, Washington certainly must have inspired many boys and men across the country, not only during his Presidency but after his death.

Honors

Although George Washington had never graduated from college, he received an honorary LL.D. from five educational institutions: Harvard, 1776; Yale, 1781; University of Pennsylvania, 1783; Washington College (Maryland), 1789; Brown, 1790.

Note: Interested readers can consult other sources for the various battles involved in the Revolutionary War.

Did you see it! Wow! our own forefather has Honorary Degrees! And became a great President. And look at the Colleges! Maybe some of you would like to go and verify these. Jason would you like to take a shot?

So, does this prove any point? I am sure I will get some feedback on this. Since I know you nay sayers cannot stand to be proven wrong. I like it when everybody thinks they are an expert. And then you end up with blogging sites like this one.

Jason Colavito link

12/30/2013 11:22:05 am

You seem to misunderstand the problem. The issue isn't whether an honorary degree has value (everyone from Maya Angelou to Stephen Colbert has one) but rather that Scott Wolter does NOT have an honorary degree, but claimed to have one anyway.

John Ballas

12/30/2013 11:50:58 am

It does not really matter to me, a degree means nothing at all. Go to college and take some classes and pay for a title that claims to be a degree. Or Honorary degree. Same thing, means nothing. The only thing a degree does, is reinforce someone who thinks they are a expert and boost the ego trip they are on. I value the work someone does, not their title. Scott has a television show. And if it was of any harm, I am sure it would not be on air. Scott can make all the claims he wants, but I will still watch his show. Maybe I will agree with his finds, maybe I won't. But I will respect his opinions. His Ideas are what make people gain interest in this field. And to make people think is healthy. Maybe by his show, more truth and newer ideas will be born. Bottom line he is doing good. Look at all of the bad science of the past. We beheld these opinions and then proved them false. This is the same thing here. History is not being changed. It is being looked at more closely. Especially by the younger generation who does not even get this type of teachings in schools these days.

Jason Colavito link

12/30/2013 11:54:13 am

Have I ever said that a degree was needed to make claims? (I don't have an advanced degree.) Evidence is what matters. But when a public figure fibs about his resume, that's news, which is what I reported when I wrote this last year.

John Ballas

12/30/2013 12:07:32 pm

Jason , care to start a blog on politics.? You will find loads of these people. And at the same time you could become a household name. Think about it? All the advertising you could do on it. Its money in the bank.

Jason Colavito link

12/30/2013 12:17:20 pm

The market, sadly, is saturated.

John Ballas

12/30/2013 12:46:36 pm

I agree. And the subject matter is also sad. Sometimes I wonder if it will really matter who came to America first? Maybe there should be a show about "What will become of this America"? And who will be here next? I try not to become depressed thinking about it. I focus on things I can try to have an impact on. So we carry on. Thanks for you responses. I appreciate .

s. h. link

1/1/2014 05:13:06 am

Years ago, a college professor loaned me a book published by the Smithsonian. It was available through subscription only to college teachers. In it, there was an article about the discovery of pre-Columbian, European or Middle Eastern-made artifacts discovered various places in the United States. I know from dealing with professorial types that most of them don't want their theories challenged so resistance is natural coming from them. Still, Wolter's televised 2013 programs are really grasping at straws and getting off the track of archaeology. Even the Great Wall of Texas, if you examine the core samples, appear to have come from a single stone. How are you going to get a magnetic trace that is different from various parts of the same stone? Duh!
If mortar was indeed used between the stones, why not take samples of it? It would likely not be like the stone itself, and would resemble mortar used by ancient peoples. The fact that he does not time his visits to maximize the possibility of discovery, like solstices, low tides, etc. As a detective, he leaves much to be desired. His hydrochloric acid test would show the same result on many rocks because calcium carbonate is present in many southwestern rocks. A sample from my mine literally dissolved like an alka seltzer.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/1/2014 10:10:05 am

I think that the H2 "America Unearthed" TV shows have positive value precisely in doing what they HAVE obviously done, i.e., encouraging thought and discussion and exploration of North American history and pre-history, which may or may not mostly match-up with the received traditions ...

John Ballas

1/1/2014 12:34:00 pm

Rev. Phil , thank you for your input. These were my feelings all along. Whether the show is right or wrong or who has what degree or even makes the claim of a degree. What matters is how the show inspires all of this discussion. The question at hand is, What really happened? Unfortunately nobody cares what really happened. All anyone cares about is a claim of a honorary degree. And if every one here could do some quality research and add it to what Scott is trying to do. Then maybe, just maybe, this can all make some sense. Remember, if it was not for the show, we would not all be here debating all of this. Every one here seems to have some good points, just try not to be so negative.

Jason Colavito link

1/1/2014 01:03:50 pm

John, this is a change of pace for Phil, who has spent much of the last year telling me that I shouldn't be discussing America Unearthed's claims because I needed to "lighten up" and treat the show as "entertainment." You're welcome to join the many and varied conversations about the show in my weekly episode reviews, available by clicking the "America Unearthed Reviews" link at right.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/1/2014 02:36:14 pm

Jason …

Ummmm … NO …

Along with suggesting that Critics should indeed "lighten up" in view of the NATURE of the H2 "America Unearthed" TV shows, I have ALSO relentlessly posted my comment above (which ISN'T anything brand new from me) …

In addition, you COULD recall that you and I early on in this blog had a lengthy and spirited exchange about the completely inappropriate and rigidly minded longstanding DEVOTION to "The Clovis Date" by the North American archaeology community, until only fairly recently when it was de-canonized by a "blue ribbon panel" ...

Jason Colavito link

1/1/2014 09:50:37 pm

You have an odd sense of "longstanding." The Clovis-first paradigm (as opposed to Clovis culture) entered archaeology around 1945, was widespread in the 1960s ("Man the Hunter" phase), and was repudiated before 1990. That means that it was the predominant paradigm for less time than the Mound Builders paradigm (c. 1780-1894), and almost the same amount of time that science accepted Piltdown Man (1912-1953).

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/3/2014 09:18:19 am

Jason … to refresh your memory …

One of my minor degrees was in anthropology, specializing in North American archaeology … and I have done my best to *keep*up* through the years …

ROUTINELY … in the scientific literature (!!!) … for DECADES past … WHENEVER a published report of a site in North or South America included a C-14 date that was OLDER than Clovis or Folsom … PART of the criticism of the report -- ROUTINELY -- was that the date MUST be "wrong" because (essentially by DEFINITION !!!) the Clovis/Folsom date was THE oldest … EVERYBODY already KNEW that, you see ...

In previous exchanges (above, with NO recognition of the IRONY !!!) you cited a "blue ribbon panel" that (FINALLY !!!) reluctantly acknowledged that … well … okay … we HATE to admit it … BUT … maybe The Clovis/Folsom date SHOULDN'T be simply asserted and assumed and CLAIMED to be "THE oldest by DEFINITION" …

Hello … ???

See … THE received tradition ISNT necessarily entirely True and Correct … Is it … ???

In my opinion … again … the H2 "America Unearthed" TV shows DO have a positive value in encouraging thought about and discussion of and CHALLENGES to the received enshrined canonized ideas about North American history and pre-history ...

Jason Colavito link

1/3/2014 09:28:49 am

You must get paid by the ellipsis. I'm not understanding why you are so incensed about the Clovis-first paradigm, which was in full swing for barely 30 years and was disproved by actual evidence that could be reviewed and replicated. Were archaeologists of the 1960s too dogmatic? Sure, but that was half a century ago, and most of them are now dead. It hasn't been the 1960s for a very long time, and there's no point in tarring all of modern archaeology based on what you didn't like about 1960s textbooks.

John Ballas

1/1/2014 02:46:09 pm

I can see that Tara is still on here comming up with her. unproductive comments. Now we can see that she has some knowledge of the Drugs she is on. I can see she did a little "Molly" last night.

Bob Zacherl

1/3/2014 06:11:53 am

Scott was way off on the cave in Pennsylvania. He claimed it to be made by masons for ceremonies. My neighbor has known about the cave for a long time and knew it was built for the underground railroad. After episode aired my neighbor visited alegheny college in Meadville pa and search the cave. He found it was built by the land owner to hide the slaves on their way to Canada for the underground railroad. All info was they to see,

Margi

1/3/2014 07:08:01 am

First of all, having a higher degree, whether honorary or earned, doesn't mean the person knows what he or she is talking about. One of the smartest people I've ever heard of is Jack Horner, a paleontologist at Montana State University...no PhD, but still the expert on dinosaurs. Second of all, in my experience just about anyone can get a higher degree. I've known plenty of people with supposed "earned" doctorates who aren't very bright...except they knew how to play the game. Third of all, if Wolter is bright enough to get himself a TV program on the history channel, good for him. I did read his book about the Kensington stone, though...not very intelligently written, I must say.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/3/2014 09:04:20 am

Seriously …

What -- specifically -- did you find poorly done in Scott Wolter's work and report on the Kensington Rune Stone … ???

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/3/2014 09:42:27 am

Jason …

LOL … It WASN'T only the "60s textbooks" that were rigidly inappropriately DOGMATIC about the "Clovis FIRST" claims … THAT ideological rigidity carried through for quite a while POST 60s … and ought NOT have required a "blue ribbon panel" to be (FINALLY) laid to rest ...

Jason Colavito link

1/3/2014 10:02:27 am

You have to remember, Phil, that at the time there was only one site that presented evidence of pre-Clovis material, and those findings were disputed. (I'm not disputing them; I studied archaeology with one of the archaeologists who worked Monte Verde.) When all of the evidence points in one direction (at the time, Clovis-first), it takes more than one person's efforts to counter the weight of evidence. That's why it required multiple archaeologists to validate it.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/3/2014 02:07:11 pm

Jason …

You know or have reason to know that it wasn't ONLY Monte Verde, but also sites in Florida and Pennsylvania that were ruled *wrong*date* … simply and ONLY because the C-14 dates came in OLDER than the rigid dogma ALLOWED ...

Jason Colavito link

1/3/2014 10:27:49 pm

Meadowcroft Rock Shelter in Pennsylvania remains controversial, and archaeologists remain divided about the evidence for its age, even after the "paradigm shift" that interests you so. As you well know replication and confirmation are keys to scientific acceptance, and a single date from a single site isn't enough to warrant a paradigm shift; repeated results are what is needed.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/4/2014 03:33:04 am

Jason --

I am not at all interested in any "paradigm shift" in North American archaeology … I AM interested in avoiding the ideological rigidity that formerly canonized "the Clovis date" as THE earliest (by definition) …

For sure, C14 dates must ALWAYS be carefully done and interpreted properly … But, no … "Meadowcroft" isn't the ONLY reputed apparent pre-Clovis site in the hemisphere, is it … ???

Jason Colavito link

1/4/2014 03:57:53 am

You are purposely conflating time periods, Phil. What I said is that when the site was first excavated in 1977, it was the first to provide strong evidence of a pre-Clovis occupation. There are now other pre-Clovis sites known, but they were found later. By 1990, Stephen Williams was already writing in "Fantastic Archaeology" that most of his colleagues accepted the site's date, and in 1997 a panel of 12 archaeologists verified the findings.

As you might now, it takes time to excavate, report, and interpret a site. Gobekli Tepe, for example, was discovered in 1963 but only excavated in 1994 and published a decade later, with public awareness beginning only in 2008-2010. That, too, dramatically changed archaeological understanding, but it's typical of how actual archaeology is slow and methodical.

You might note that your hated Clovis-first interpretation only emerged two or three decades AFTER the discovery of the first Clovis points in 1926.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/4/2014 04:25:09 am

Jason --

I have never "hated" the "Clovis first" idea … I simply never accepted it as a necessary DOGMA …

The sites and their dates are what they are … It shouldn't REQUIRE a "blue ribbon panel" to accept that … THAT is and has consistently been my point … That you continue to DEFEND that now discredited rigidity only makes YOU look bad, bro. … Give it up ...

Jason Colavito link

1/4/2014 05:05:21 am

But how do you know that dates "are what they are"? A single carbon date doesn't do anything; multiple samples and replication are necessary, and sources of error need to be ruled out. Ideally, others who were not involved in the first dating attempts should review the evidence and take independent samples. All of this takes time, and these kinds of controls are used so that episodes like the Piltdown Hoax don't happen. You seem, for obvious reasons, to be promoting the idea that one person with one test should have the presumption of correctness.

And "bro"? Really?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/4/2014 05:17:47 am

Jason --

If you have indeed studied archaeology, you know or have reason to know that indeed, an investigator commonly DOES obtain C14 dates from MULTIPLE samples, and in a particularly significant excavation, will send samples to multiple labs for testing, AND will make use of OTHER dating techniques well, using both "absolute" and "relative" methods …

And again … The Pennsylvania site ISN'T the ONLY reported pre-Clovis site in the hemisphere is it … ??? (Yes, "bro." … Unlike some folks in these "discussions," I prefer to keep things on an interpersonally FRIENDLY level as much as possible, avoiding personal animus … Is that a problem for you … ??? Do you want or need to engage a certain level of hostility … ???)

Jason Colavito link

1/4/2014 05:49:03 am

I'm not being hostile, Phil. "Bro" is a rather juvenile vocative, and I was surprised at you for using it.

I'm not understanding your problem. I was addressing the situation when Monte Verde was being excavated, and you are talking about what we know today. Many of the other suspected pre-Clovis sites have problems, and few have widespread support.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/4/2014 07:15:02 am

As you know by now … as I've indicated numerous times (above), my problem is that for a few DECADES, any and all pre-Clovis site dates were airily dismissed out of hand as *wrong* BY DEFINITION simply cause they COULDN'T be *right* because everybody already KNEW that "Clovis" IS "the oldest" …

"Dating" is OFTEN tricky … So what … ???

Lastsister link

1/9/2014 05:48:17 am

Rev.
When I go to visit NE I am going to check out the coastal area for some of those sites mentioned on the history channel. I grew up there and never knew about them. there is so much history in that area. Well I had heard about the one (tower?) in the Chelmsford or Tewksbury area. It just intrigues me so much, I love it and I like the AU show. Go Scott!!!

Drew Wilkerson link

1/3/2014 12:38:09 pm

Jason,

I think you should cut Scott some slack. His show is heads and toes above most of what the History Channel claims as fact, "Ancient Aliens" and the like. It's and interesting show, never really discovers anything, but interesting. I like him and will probably keep watching..... Best wishes,

Drew

SCOTT LUND

1/4/2014 07:12:39 am

In an earlier post between John Ballas and Jason, John mentioned he wondered if the actual proof of Pre Columbus land discovery would matter to anything. Perhaps not what Jason wants as that is not the subject of this one particular thread, but....Good Question, what and how would it matter? Why the hoopla? Would any prior treaties and ownership have any possibility of legal disqualification?
Could we get our $17 worth of beads back and get rid of Long Island?

If so, and Norway/Sweden became the legal anglo authority here, that means MN could be the new Washinton DC, and you all can get the hell out of my yard......

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/4/2014 07:39:49 am

Unfortunately …

Physical possession and political control of territory is what seems to matter most in these questions throughout history, much to the dismay, e.g., of the indigenous peoples of North and South America …

But … They also performed many aggressive "land grabs" of their own, as when the Ojibway in the 18th century drove the Dakota people out of their traditional homeland in central "Minnesota" … Some of the Dakota people in turn seized Paha Sapa ("The Black Hills") from the Crow people, and not that long afterward the European invaders seized The Black Hills from the Dakota people …

ALL of history almost EVERYWHERE is about people on the move, exploring, settling, moving on, conquering, infiltrating, discovering, assimilating (or not), emigrating and immigrating …

It's REALLY interesting, isn't it … ??? But we ought not be shocked to learn the details as they become available … "eight Goths and twenty two Norwegians on acquisition journey from Vinland westward …" etc., etc. ...

John Ballas

1/4/2014 08:01:29 am

I am going to agree with what Rev, Phils Comment. I have been studiing the Slavic people for some time and there migrations. And it is all of the same. But information is tough to find, because a lot of it predates 30,000 to 20,000 years ago. So I try to keep it closer to the last 1200 years. So it is more in line with American history.

And I thought I would mention, I live near Pittsburgh, and there is more proof in this area of older inhabitants like what is at Meadowcroft in southwestern Pennsylvania.
I have actually found a spearhead and some other parts of them while making a soccer field. This was close to a river and not at a cliff side where the flint is found. Definitely not American Indian relics. Resemble more like the Clovis style spearhead.

SCOTT LUND

1/4/2014 09:14:29 pm

Funny you mentioned how the Anishinaabe pushed out the Sioux, I censored myself on that post as I also asked if our present treaties with the Canadian immigrants and newest residents of the land now called America, would hold up since the Norse were here before the Cree and the Canadian Anishinaabe/Algonquin Peoples. Kinda like the $17 dollars in beads, they were the wrong tribe to have the authority,as they were just passing through... so of course they said sure and actually got what turned out to be a good deal.

PS I was walking by your place last week and entertained an offer on your house for 17 Elvis extended plays in mint shape. The records sound excellent, give them 30 days before evicting them would you? Thanks!

Mark Kostbade

1/4/2014 03:43:59 pm

I am pretty sure this blogger (Jason) has an honorary Ph.D. at putting people down for no good reason. Jason, why are you so viscous?

Only Me

1/4/2014 08:29:22 pm

Because the squeaky wheel gets the grease?

I think you meant vicious...unless you're trying to imply Jason is an oily character.

Jason Colavito link

1/4/2014 10:32:01 pm

Do you complain when the news reports on public figures? Did you object that the media was "putting people down" when they reported in 2007 that MIT's dean of admissions had a fake diploma, prompting her to resign? Was that being "negative"?

I wrote one (1) brief news article about a news story a year ago. I'm not the one who then decided to spend a year being outraged about a story Scott Wolter himself confirmed was true. Unless you think Scott Wolter was "putting [himself] down," too.

josephs

1/6/2014 12:19:51 pm

As a general observation of say 1/5 of the posts, a trend in the ones who support Wolter start of by saying they have no credentials formally as such, but have always suspected the establishment to be hiding/covering up/shutting down various historical artifacts that would rock the academic world. Do you have any opinion on why people feel that in all of academia, everyone from student to professor, desire to suppress the ones who wish to change history completely? I mean that is a vast number of people, with the ability to go down in history as a game changer if there were truth in the fringe claims.

anne Beal

1/4/2014 04:07:57 pm

Just watched the episode Arizona Cross. Fascinating stuff about Exxon and the Knights Templar. So...when Mussolini's body was hanged upside down at a gas station by an angry mob, do you know what kind of gas station it was? Yup, it was an Esso! No, I'm not making that up!

Ed Chrumka

1/4/2014 05:55:43 pm

I watched the latest Scott Wolter show discussing the lost colony of Roanoke. It was a strange experience listening to a forensic geologist twist unrelated events, guesswork and supposition into "theories". I must admit I was very entertained when legitimate historians rebuked his notions, but annoyed when he suggested to a Cambridge history professor that Queen Elizabeth had syphilis. Does the History Channel care about history? Does anyone at the History Channel realize how Queen Elizabeth is revered by the English people? I did inspect the credits and discovered that he gets his Indiana Jones wardrobe from Duluth Trading. Too bad, I liked their stuff and now I can't see myself wearing it because I'm afraid I might be mistaken for Scott Wolter. The show is not educational - unless you believe that Al Gore invented the Internet.

SCOTT LUND

1/4/2014 09:20:40 pm

Cool, I get to repeat this.....Of couse Al Gore invented the Internet, well at least the main part of how it works...AlGoreithms, without them the internet is nothing. Duh...

John Ballas

1/5/2014 05:02:50 am

I watched the episode also. And as I can remember. The Cambridge professor also told Scott that there was no record or even evidence that Queen Elizabeth had any sort of disease let alone syphilis. He was corrected and I am sure he agreed. And it was just a thought because it was common disease in those days. Oh and the Al Gore comment I had made, if you had any form of common sense , you would have known it was sarcasm

Bat Boy

1/4/2014 09:42:49 pm

Pure tripe and codswallop written by your crazy neighbor, the delusional fantasist; which makes it perfect for the History Channel which has long since become the Pseudoscience Channel.

You used to have to go to the supermarket to buy hilariously trashy stories such as these in the National Enquirer and Weekly World News. Now they are broadcast by the Pseudoscience Channel.
One wonder how long it will be before H2 has a special on "Bat Boy".

SCOTT LUND

1/5/2014 04:52:16 am

Bat Boy, where will you stand when proof comes forward, perhaps as soon as this summer, confirming the Greenland/Scandinavian migration through Minnesota was more widespread than 22 and 8? Still sniffing you own guano? I bet you will still act like it don't stink as you dig your heels into story time of safe history.

John Ballas

1/5/2014 05:08:03 am

Scott, Bat Boy is just another one of those who has to hide behind a name. And feels safety because this is only a blog site. Meanwhile, he is probably home watching reruns of Ghost Hunters, And Ghost Adventures.

Bat Boy

1/8/2014 07:40:53 pm

Scott,
Is that "proof" of "Scandinavian migration through Minnesota" coming before or after H2's "The Quest for Bat Boy" special?

I hear they have a certain geology undergrad lined up to explore the subway tunnels of NYC questing for signs and "proof" of Bat Boy.
"What if a human could mutate into 1/2 Bat?"
"Could this mutation enable the creature to survive subterranean urban living?"
"If the creature lives in the subway system, where would it most likely be found?"
"Dr. E. Nergy has interviewed numerous witnesses to a nocturnal hominid with glowing eyes and what appears to be an elastic webbing between its arms and trunk. An high pitched squeal has also been noted..."

Due out in August...
Guaranteed to lower your IQ by 15 points.

History Channel is a laughing stock.
The SyFy Network has more credibility as they don't claim to represent reality and their cheesy shows are at least entertaining.

BB.

Scott Lund

1/13/2014 09:40:16 am

@BatBoy ~ I acknowledge and empathize with your quest for recognition and acknowlegment, however, H2's "The Quest for Bat Boy" special was cancelled as it showed the mental deficiencies that exist in anything or anyone associated with that mutation, and they therefore felt it would be politically incorrect and tasteless to profit off the misfortunes of such outcasts shunned from social society due to their inability to recognize the stench of their own defecation, both in the physical aspect, and in the social interaction metaphor that is how their communication is viewed by general society. While I feel I would have enjoyed analyzing the interactions of such moronic simpletons, I trust, and shall adhere to support of the H2 producers and their decisions. It is in keeping with that support am unable to answer your questions now or in the future....you are just too easy of a target. Sorry, but thanks for playing???

david johnson

1/5/2014 11:01:31 am

America Unearthed is just a tv show. It's supposed to be interesting and generate revenue. Although nothing is ever discovered that hasn't been seen before, it's fun to watch. Much like that fat little redneck girl who thinks she's a beauty queen. Don't get upset because you are smarter than the show, it's supposed to be entertainment, not rocket science. Scott please be forgiving of the folks who hate you for making a living off of other peoples ignorance, that's show biz.

Jason Colavito link

1/5/2014 11:06:29 am

Talk about damning with faint praise!

Daryl L. Hunter link

1/5/2014 11:22:12 am

David, if it is entertainment without education it should be on A&E not the History Channel. That said, I guess if if the History Channel wants to defecate on their brand, that is their choice.

I don't have time for entertainment, I only have time to learn - to bad I can't learn from the History Channel!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/5/2014 12:13:22 pm

I had never heard of "the menehune" of Hawaii before the latest show …
*whatever*

John Ballas

1/5/2014 12:23:49 pm

Jason, You are "Big Time" now. Honey Boo Boo makes your blog! I wonder what she thinks of America Unearthed? Yeee Haaaaa!!!!

John Ballas

1/5/2014 03:44:47 pm

What I find really fascinating is how people here can get so bent out of shape over a Television show. I mean this crap goes on every day. People making claims that do not hold water. Listen to the News. All of these politicians, and the lies they tell. And different Newsgroups that support them. But some people have been here making the same old comments for a year now. O.K. why not just come out and say it. You hate Scott Wolters guts like it is personal or something. You same people are losing too much sleep over it. It's time to get a life. Or maybe program the parental controls on your remote so you cannot watch H2. Also there are some good psychiatrists online you can talk to. Also Tara knows which Pyramid you can get some good Esctasy to put you in a better mood.

Rev. Phil Gotsh

1/6/2014 02:14:09 am

Yeah … Go figure ...

Daryl L. Hunter link

1/6/2014 02:29:53 am

Because I publish the website "The Greater Yellowstone Resource Guide" http://www.greater-yellowstone.com , the Discovery Channel producer of the Deadliest Catch contacted my and asked if I know of any exciting jobs in the Yellowstone region that might make a compelling television show. I referred them to the grizzly bear management team. Now if I didn't have integrity I could have promoted myself. You see I lead wildlife safaris around Yellowstone and am also a wildlife photographer. Yes I could have misrepresented myself and made a bucket full of money telling lies about the glory and danger of what I do and I could have made it entertaining, but it would have been a lie.

A friend of mine has been featured on "mountain men", they had him starving to death on the Snake River near my home walking distance from the grocery store. I can't ever watch that show ever again either.

Some people are comfortable selling lies, I am not. I also don't want to waste my time consuming them.

Daryl L. Hunter link

1/5/2014 04:44:14 pm

Wow, I just scrolled up the blog, Scott really has some dedicated sycophants!

John Ballas

1/6/2014 11:57:39 am

You might be right there, I don't mind the kiss ass part. But it is irritating when people obsess about things they do not have any control over. And this show will be on air no matter how much they bitch. High ratings keep it on. So if you don't like it, don't watch. And no, we do not need a Yellowstone show. I suggest just going there and checking out the place instead. Great place to go.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/12/2014 10:10:04 am

The Scott Wolter BASHERS are the apparently truly dedicated sycophants, having put up entire blogs and MANY posts ...

SCOTT LUND

1/18/2014 04:58:39 pm

Daryl, I absolutely have to say that on your site you have thee best and most awe inspiring gallery of any I can think of, including NG and Life. I actually just relaxed watching the slide show, and did not scroll, just let them come up and wow me with each fantastic pic. Thank You.

Daryl L. Hunter link

1/19/2014 12:58:58 am

Thanks Scott, it is a labor of love, I do wish NG would scroll though a bit more often :D

Scott Lund

1/19/2014 09:19:32 am

I am surprised they have not had you freelance for them, the filters you use enhance a relaxation after the awe, it really does lift you up to let you relax. My ignorant impression of NG is they seem to cherish more of a foreboding, the rain is coming enhancement.

(Personally I want to see the blind and know the brand of scent cover you used to get those.) Deer Calm?

Scotty Roberts link

10/30/2016 05:26:41 pm

So does Jason. ;)

John

1/11/2014 02:02:07 pm

The Heart of Quantum Theory:

"The one thing I am certain of is that nothing is certain"

Scott Wolter

fan101

1/11/2014 05:39:58 pm

I googled Scott Wolton after watching an episode of America Unearthed tonight to see if I could find any additional followup info. I wasn't expected to fall into this blog. I scanned the past year of posts briefly and just wanted to say ... shame on you all for your pettiness. How about you all put your energy into continuing the research of the artifacts that do exist, that have been hidden from the public and not taught in our schools. I find the show delightful. I do not care what Scott calls himself, nor do I care about his degrees or credentials. It is TV, enough said. I do care that the places he goes to and the artifacts shown are real. That being said, what other TV shows air this type of history, especially in the US. They are amazing and exciting and I am thrilled that this program is aired and revealing our nation's treasures and mysteries. I would so much rather watch stories about these amazing places I'll never get to see in person, than waste time on the popular reality shows that plague the networks today and do nothing but promote the degradation of our society. Scott fell into a dream opportunity ... KUDOS to him. At least this show may inspire some young minds to grow up and pursue exciting careers ... as opposed to poisoning their minds with the immoral trash on the other networks.

SCOTT LUND

1/12/2014 01:39:25 pm

@Fan101, Bravo! Bravo! (except for that pettiness part, 'cause I ain't growing up and I rather enjoy irritating the "Know it all," to whom everything is known, except that everything they know today, come 'morrow is wrong.

Eileen

11/30/2014 02:05:28 am

I agree with fan101...shame on you all. I am an educated person, have a master's degree in mental heath therapy and have lived a long, well rounded life. I see a lot of other therapists with masters degrees and it scares me that people go to them for help! My point is that a degree is proof that you studied a lot and did what you needed to do to get the degree. Itt does NOT mean you will be good at what you do. I LOVE the opening of his show when he says the history is all wrong. We have been fed crap from the government, from schools, etc for a long time and we need to start thinking critically and independently!! And they are taking control more and more everyday and we sit by and do nothing. There is so much out there that cannot be explained, and established science gets very threatened when someone suggests something different. C'mon people open your minds and do some of your own research and stop wasting time criticizing someone who is at least asking questions!! And stop believing everything you are fed just because someone in "authority" said so!!

Bill Robertson

1/13/2014 11:46:18 am

Scott,
My wife and I thoroughly enjoy your program.
If you haven't read Gavin Menzies's book 1421 a Bantam Book
9780553815221 about the Chinese in North America, before
Columbus, I recommend it. It may add further interest to your
very interesting and convincing program.
Bill.

Jamie Eckles

1/19/2014 06:10:33 am

To start a show off with the proclamation "The history we were all taught growing up is wrong" started me off on the wrong foot. Anyone doing science who declares something like that isn't really doing science. Yes, SOME of what we were taught is wrong, but not most of it. I'm glad people like Jason are around to give point by point critiques of the claims that are made by people like Mr Wolter. The few shows I've watched have really troubled me with his lack of any deeper background on the experts he uses or the conclusions he makes. I was taught that science is ALWAYS probationary, and that if the data changes then the science corrects itself. It really doesn't appear as if Mr Wolter is interesting in getting at the truth, preferring instead to reach for the sensational and titillating, give the audience what he thinks they want to hear. Debunking exists because some people can't sit by and watch bunk be promoted as science. I'll finish with this quote by someone I admire:

“I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness..."
― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

Lor

1/25/2014 07:49:36 am

Having first come across this article and the comments attached to it in February, the fact that it is still flailing along is utterly one of the funniest things I have ever seen. The time people have put into this and the hilarious nature of the repetitive posts are the definition of children playing in mud.
Seriously: "winning" an internet argument is like winning a Special Olympics race...

Scott Lund

1/25/2014 08:51:43 am

Yet Lor, here you are, and almost a year later adding fuel to the fire...but it's O.K., at least now I can apologize to someone "directly" for taking that blue lined parking spot last week. I am sorry, and it will not happen again.

Ron

1/28/2014 01:28:20 am

By responding you obviously take Lor's comment personally, Scott. Would there be a reason for that?

Scott Lund

1/28/2014 12:24:40 pm

Yep! Pet peave when someone is full of themselves while complaining about an issue of pettiness implied to be beneath them, yet they are annoyingly unaware they are continuing to facilitate more of the same. You are aware of the ironic nature of this first hand, right Ron?

Matt

1/25/2014 01:51:36 pm

...and Bob Villa wasn't a contractor and never built a thing in his life. So goes the world of entertainment.

CINDY THOMPKINS

1/25/2014 06:55:01 pm

SCOTT, excellent program, excellent coverage of material. Keep up the good work and may the GOOD LORD guide you in all of your endeaveors. Be blessed!!!

CINDY THOMPKINS

1/25/2014 07:03:58 pm

SCOTT, Excellent program, Excellent coverage of material. Keep up the good work, and may the GOOD LORD guide you in all of your endeavors. BE BLESSED. And....JASON, try helping instead of hating. (errors corrected) AMEN.

Jerry Falkman

1/27/2014 04:55:16 am

There is no doubt in my mind that the prime motive for all these bull shit shows is GREED. I believe there is little regard for the truth as long as someone can make the almightily buck.

I find Jason's observations accurate and truthful. Thanx Jason

Cloud Proud

1/27/2014 05:45:31 am

I can't help but question the number of overly friendly supportive comments on this site in favor of Scott. Given the extreme number of comments on other sites mocking him, his work, his abilities, or shall we call them inability to find his backside with a map both hands and a squadron of Knights Templars to guide him to it. My feelings is this is camouflage and market manipulation, you know like what BP did with that little leak in the Gulf. The hired a marketing company to go online and post all sorts of positive things about them to keep them in a positive publicity light. How many of the "Commenters" on here are real, and not a marketer working for Scott or for Discovery Inc. trying to keep the show from tanking? Given the fact that his specialty is nothing more than a concrete inspector, I did that same job working road construction building bridges and Highways, does that mean I get to lie on my resume too? I can forgo my IT career and make up all sorts of wild lies about archaeology. I have a YouTube channel so I guess I am almost on TV, as good as. LOL To think I spent all that time, money working getting degrees in Networking, Programing, Web Development, and a Business degree to go with them. When I could pull it out my backside no Knights Templar required. Though I am related by blood on my fathers side, have three castles in France with our family's name on them. But that is another true story Scott only deals with fantasy so will refrain from things like that when dealing with him. There is or was talk of an online petition to remove his show, ones like it due to the fact that they are simply lies. School children have enough trouble grasping real facts not made up pseudo new age science. Discovery is guilty of the "If you repeat a lie enough time it becomes a truth. Get enough people to believe it then it has to be real even if there are no facts. Remember facts pesky facts and the last election, they are doing the same thing Fox news does to news. Wolter might as well go to work for them he would fit right in with the people working the news desk making the "News" up as they go along, all bad as long as it get's whoever is on the enemies list. Obama case in point, anyone not a GOP TP Party member, White, rich top 10%, or works for a living. Basically the same views as Scott, don't get me started on the Brown, Black, Red, Yellow, Skinned people needing a White person to lead them out of stupidity, ignorance, into the light. LOL how self centered can you get to bring race into things. Then again that is what you get from a glorified concrete inspector playing Indiana Jones on TV. Given his lack of respect for other cultures, races, nationalities, its clear he has had not training in even the basic Anthropology, or Sociology, or for that matter Psychology, no just how to play with concrete. Feel a letter to Discovery Inc. suggesting they keep him home playing with concrete and off the air, maybe an new online petition with that on it. LOL

Ron

1/28/2014 01:25:09 am

Cloud-
A little long, but some valid points.
It is obvious that some of the posters over the last year are not just rabid morons. The length of time some have put into this indicates they have more than just a passing interest in fending off Wolter detractors. Otherwise, there are some real questions about their need to find friends and get in touch with the real world.
Whether these individuals are hired internet hit men or friends of Wolter is undeterminable, but it definitely seems organized and focused.
Scott L does seem a little rabid at times. His pettiness indicates he does not understand the that an argument should be philosophical in nature and based on logic. Ultimately this does not help whoever is paying him, or his friend Wolter, whichever the case may be...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

1/29/2014 09:28:00 am

How about this … ???

Knock off the snarky personal attacks and instead discuss claims and ideas and facts and their interpretation … ??? or not ...

Cloud Proud

1/31/2014 10:32:11 am

Here is an example of what is meant by people not liking America Unearthed. I posted something about it, someone complained about what I said so another poster explained to them why we complain about this show. I don't want to post the exact location of the site it's popular for streaming instead of cable. The fact that streaming links take days not hours to get posted to the site tells people it's an unpopular show. No more than one person or bot is posting links when the average is ten to twenty posting five to ten links per day. Now the American Horror Story is over people might be forced to watch crap like this but I doubt it. People can always find something to watch, read a book, do something other than watch "American Cover Up"-$cotts attempt at covering up reality with his version of fantasy BS. If you're concerned that I just posted negative comments not ones supporting the show, I wouldn't do that. I would post some supporting "American Delu$ion$ for Ca$h money", if I could find one.
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": the hope is that somewhere, somehow one of the producers of these lame shows will read our complaints and stop pushing their 'goddess' worship history on America! fake and phoney patriots like this host need to find a new job selling bridges or sand
6 days ago

:Why post on a thread about a show you dont even like, everybody here knows how to google somebody if they want to.
6 days ago

: yup.....it's just entertainment to "entertain" for less than an hour. nothing more, nothing less. Remember the good old days of the history channel......they are history..

I love the subtle product placements during the show. Like the guy who uses his book for a straightedge to outline the Washington map. Like the first season much better.

THX 4 LNX everybody
4 days ago

: all I see is mounds, no story of Abraham's death......

this show was better before he posted his 'theory' about the pagans

his atheist attitude destroys the show, I watch to see what propaganda they are teaching now
5 days ago

:What happened to Lincoln?

:this show is so lame, he starts off real excited ... all to find NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE!

atheists, satan's tools.

:Thank for the links guys! =D Been waiting since yesterday xD

:I discovered that if I add the total length of my toenail clipping plus the square root of the number of Ewoks that live on Endor divided by the amount of loose change in my floorboard minus some other made up numbers, you will come the obvious conclusion that Snoopy is an animated dog and not a real mammal !!! Why are the masons hiding this fact from us? Are the masons in cahoots with the keyhole gnomes in an attempt to steal one sock from every American? Need to get Scot on the case €:◊ þ

:so now we know the history of the "gspot" lol...just had to say it! Would still like to know where on earth the last episode of Bible Secrets Revealed is...maybe the Pope or FreeMasons have it locked away.

:this show is by far the dumbest of the history re-write stories of our nation and history in general = lame

:Still no links? I guess this show is not top priority. :(

:I agree but it is good for a laugh"

Nigel C.B. Durrant link

1/30/2014 08:05:38 am

When I was eight or nine years old – about 50 years ago – I started to become seriously fascinated by the world around me. I began consciously to try to discover how things worked, what made people tick and why things were as they were. It intrigued me why we could eat eggs all year round but chestnuts only at certain times. Why did the moon sometimes look round and sometimes not; why did some people go to their church on Sunday while others went to the synagogue on Saturday (and what were those strange letters above the synagogue door)? I read books, visited museums and, later, attended lectures, pleasurably absorbing the history of the things I saw on my daily round, whether at home or further afield. Everything tells its own story and it quickly became abundantly clear that I had to choose between the mutually contradictory versions I read or was told before I could entertain a clear idea about anything. Checking my references was of the essence!
As I grew older I came to realize that it was not so much a love of learning as such that inspired me but rather a developing awareness of the importance of being well-informed in order to develop valid insights into anything and consequently to map out my place in the order of things.
A couple of days ago I happened upon a recording of the pseudo-documentary ‘America’s oldest secret’. I watched this programme without any preconceived notions, stoically (or masochistically?) taking in everything that was on offer until the end; within the first few minutes it became clear that I was treating myself to unmitigated trash. Next day I gave myself over to ‘The desert cross’ after which I had no reason to assume that any of the other titles in the America Unearthed series would be less objectionable. From the opening embarrassingly unconvincing ‘reconstruction’ of the 1924 find and the presenter’s son’s wooden ‘So wadda we goin’ to see?’ at the beginning to the contrived conversation with the finder’s grandson at the end, the whole episode exuded not only incompetence but an almost palpable lack of respect for any serious viewers. This is why I applaud Jason Colavito’s exposé of the perpetrator of these farcical productions: their transmission to an unsuspecting public can merely debase peoples’ efforts to form a pertinent opinion for or against any commonly accepted theory.

Al Connelly

2/1/2014 12:11:18 pm

It is not surprise that Discovery Inc retains Scott Wolter. He bogus and Discovery programming is a series of lies and distortion. Often the programs dispense Progressive Koolaid to poison the minds of the unsuspecting.
Wolter's programs have constant repetition. It suggests that either
- the target audience is assumed to have some combination of low intelligence and inability to concentrate, or are just drunk.
or
- by constant repetition the audience will believe the nonsense.

Debbie

2/1/2014 12:23:30 pm

I think Scott you're doing an amazing job I record every episode and find it very interestingit's amazing how much they are hiding the truth they just don't want to rewrite history keep up your amazing work love your show

Cloud Proud

2/1/2014 09:55:35 pm

Debbie, Who exactly are they? Who are the nameless, faceless, unseen, all knowing history denying, lying, Monsters that having nothing better to do then lie to everyone about Americas and its pre Columbus History? Every single one of the Conspiracy theorist can never seem to solve that riddle, why is that? I mean in order to have a Conspiracy don't you have to have actual members of said Conspiracy for it too exist? You can't just make a blanket claim like Scott Wolter has done and provided no proof that "They" exist. If you're talking about private land owners that don't want him trespassing on their lands. With his crazy theories that once published will bring even more nuts like some on this blog out of the trees to further trespass on said private lands. To also look for the clues that we have already established Mr. Wolter is nothing more than a glorified concrete inspector playing a part on TV. That some of you seem to be unable to separate the acting from reality of just what he is. IS this the "They" you speak of people not wanting every nut in the world coming on their lands acting as if they own them, have a god given right to be there do what they will. All in the pursuit of phoney I won't even call it science since science has rules, is made up of facts, deals in realities not pulled out of the backside of a Concrete Inspector with delusions of grandeur that he is Indiana EFFing Jones out to prove some great mysteries to people with "Low intelligence" that don't get that he has an agenda to sell his books, other crap to you. All in the name of Profiting from it, that is his sole motivations. He does not do this out of some need to set the record straight, or anything remotely like it. All else fails follow the money, right into his pockets. If it was he would not be selling anything have no agenda nothing to prove would not be pushing his work on Clueless people like he is a scholar when he is a liar. Can you provide an example of "They" I would really like to meet, talk with them? I don't want some oversimplified the Government, if you're going to go that rout you better be able to give names, dates, departments, phone numbers, agencies, everything else. Because everyone else that is making claims on here about Scotts lack of abilities seems to be able to provide more than enough real evidence to back things up. I understand certain Political groups have issues with those pesky little things like "Facts" but then it cost them one election is about to cost them several more. It also applies in this case those pesky "Facts" sure seem to get in the way of what Scott is selling so he forgets to mention a lot of them on his show, books, lectures, etc. So if people don't talking about them how are others going to know he is selling BS forgetting to mention things like the Kensington Rune Stone has been proven to be a fake, but he never mentions that on his show. Keeps using it as evidence to support most if not all of his claims. Simply Google KRS and the Hoax, Fake, Scott, do some research might learn more than you intend too. Then again pesky things those "Facts" always getting in the way of a good lie. I will be waiting patiently for an example of "They" but won't be holding my breath, since I don't think you will ever come up with a single one. But I am sure your excuses will provide some much needed laughs too! If your going to make a statement about faith and having to simply believe in things, I will be forced to point out recent studies to the link between Faith/Religion and Mental Health disorders. As in believing in "They". Unseen group out to stop the truth getting out, could go on but my point is Wolter sounds more like a escaped mental patient the more I read his work watch his show. With a persecution complex trying to get people to share in his paranoia. Seeing things that are not there, all the classic signs of someone that is in need of help. Not a psychiatrist just worked at a treatment center for a few years but I could make a good case for treatment.

2/1/2014 01:18:23 pm

You gotta blog, He gotta tv show (second season, btw). I think we all get it. Interestingly it is a tv show, not a work of science. Scott Wolter is like Agent Mulder, he wants to believe, in everything! It is so amusing to read all the pseudo intellectual angst on this blog. Hush little children, don't watch such deeply troubling programs. Rather, read boring blogs about escapist tv shows that decry the lack of science and questionable credentials of it's principals. Tv, it'll rot your brain.

Cloud Proud

2/1/2014 11:21:49 pm

CJ, Great point Jason has a great blog and Scott has a crappy show that is on its second year. Not sure where you were going with your posting so I will go with this: The Simpsons Season 25, Episode 11 Specs and the City, The Vampire Diaries Season 5, Episode 12 The Devil Inside, Doctor Who Episode 27 The Time of the Doctor, American Horror Story Season 3, Episode 13 The Seven Wonders, Family Guy Season 12, Episode 11 Brian's a Bad Father.

My point for listing the shows above is they also have been on longer than Scotts show. Are more entertaining, have a larger following, and shows that people will watch anything on TV. From Vampires to Fox news its all made up with an eye on selling products or manipulating a group into believing something they are pushing. If Jerry Springer and all of what makes up for daytime TV, the simple truth that Scott has a show on TV, and Jason does not is not that big of a deal in my books. What Scott is selling fits in nicely with the rest of the brain numbing emptied of all real facts, predigested crud.

But his contains the same message" "Don't trust the Govt, they are trying to keep secrets from you". "That I know and only I can show you". Same sorry but TP Party BS that they have been pushing on the low information voters/viewers for the last several years. "Don't trust Obama", same "the Govt. knows all about UFO's, Aliens, Atlantis, Abductions, Cattle mutilations", the same crud Discovery, History, others have been churning out forever.

"They know, I know, Don't trust them, I am your friend," This same crap was popular back in the 1970's during the Vietnam war. Now the Hippies have gotten older and the message is hidden on TV in pathetic shows like this one. Used by certain political organizations to try to make the Govt. look suspicious them look friendly. We all see how Scotts own political, religious belief contaminate the show have commented on it repeatedly. The very words he uses at the start of his show are the best example there are of this, some imaginary group out to stop his life's work. As a fertilizer salesman spreading BS all across America and beyond.

If the start of the show is not enough to put you off the fact that it does not carry a warning that its nothing but total BS should alert you that something is very much wrong. I feel the need to help protect the low information views that come on here keep defending Scott and his supposed work.

So I am going to see if something can be done to make the show carry a warning that its nothing more than theater, total BS, not of any scientific value. Like all the shows I listed at the start of this, but then it goes all against the "Don't trust the Govt." that is so important to his Superman/Christ ego he has of himself.

If people know they are being lies too, that this is fiction how will they want to watch? If they are willing to watch Fox news, Jerry Springer they will watch his show, if nothing else like other just to laugh at him. College kids have turned it into drinking games, drink when he self promotes, mentions the Kensington Runestone, product placement of one of his books, talks about himself in 3rd person. Get's a phony tip, drags his family into this mess, claims something it real when its clearly not, say things like "won't stop until he gets to the bottom of this", I think you get the point, I wont play I don't want to get that drunk. Nor do I want to be bothered with watching the show, passing out after 10 minutes 200 shots of 190 proof. LOL

Personally I am a big fan of Doctor Who it has more scientific knowledge in it then America Unearthed/Septic Tank. The explanations on Dr. Who are at least well thought out, plausible, and interesting, (Kidding). At least it makes no pretense at being what its not, a show based in fact dealing with reality.

You know its all fantasy from the get go, not someone trying to pass of reality TV phony as scientific fact. Not to mention everyone on Dr. Who can act circles around Scott and Co. I am hoping this will be the last season for this show that Discovery Inc. will figure out that people are not buying the pseudo science, Aliens, Viking in Minnesota, and go back to shows with some educational value.

2/7/2014 06:06:44 am

Maybe you should wear a warning "threatened by and intolerant of everything and everyone that does not mirror my political views and values no matter how ridiculous". Just an idea.

John Ballas

2/7/2014 06:44:56 am

Wow!!! from the great knowledge that you have from the quality programs you watch I can't imagine how you came up with so much to say here. Your life must be sooooo exciting! And as far as your opinion, It does not add up to a hill of beans. You need to go back to PBS and watch Sesame Street. And hit rehab at the same time. Maybe you are smoking a few doobies while you watch TV too.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

2/2/2014 08:05:46 am

LOL … Yeah …
It seems to be like a sore in the mouth … Your tongue … just HAS to go-there go-there GO-THERE … and poke it and wiggle around …

hmmmmm

2/1/2014 02:55:37 pm

It was hysterical when Scott asks the director(or whatever she is) at the Denver airport if it was built by the illuminati....what did he expect.."ok you got me..yes the illuminati built this place" what a joke this guy looks like...but seriuosly..bigfoot is an alien pet that got loose

ted b.

2/1/2014 05:17:48 pm

scott wolter is a promoter that just rehashes old finds,and adds nothing of scientific or historic credence to these STAGED presentations. .NOTHING SCHOLARLY here!!!!!!!

Brian Lynch

2/3/2014 05:55:47 am

My girlfriend is a big fan of America Unearthed meanwhile it causes me to cringe listening to the rhetoric mixed with suspenseful music and dramatic camera effects.

I have absolutely no problem with scientists hosting TV shows. Carl Sagan, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Brian Cox, and even Peter Weller are great at bridging the gap between science and the general public.

I also have no problem with exploring facets of science and history that are generally unknown or contentious. Of course every scientist in the world is well aware we do not know everything, the things we do know are not necessarily accurate, and there are some things we will never fully understand -- we wouldn't be scientists if we thought textbooks already had all of the answers.

My issue with the show stems from the fact that Mr. Wolter continuously acts as if the "academics" (as he refers to them) are out to get him. This raised a flag for me and led me to search for more about him... and I ended up here. It was no surprise to read that his academic background is sketchy at best. The History Channel continues to disappoint me with shows about ghosts, big foot, and other pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo for the masses.

What I do find appalling is that this comment section seems to be filled with people who want to keep supporting America Unearthed and its charlatan host. (Sorry Scott, but that is what you amount to being...)

I guess it is not that surprising in a world where most people are more interested in following Honey-Boo-Boo and Justin Bieber... maybe America Unearthed and Ancient Aliens should team up.

Sofie

2/6/2014 12:29:13 am

ANALYZING SCOTT WOLTER THE SCOTT WOLTER WAY:

1. Scott tells a lie.
2. Scott repeats the lie over and over again.
3. "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it."
4. Scott is a NAZI!
5. Scott could even be the grandson of Adolf and Eva.
6. Wollte means wanted in German.
7. Scott IS the grandson!

Seriously people, he's just a bad actor, making use of a brain dead audience and capitalism.
You should be used to things like this by now.

John Ballas

2/7/2014 06:32:03 am

Unbelievable! Sofie, does it make you feel good to get this out??? To let people know you hate Germans too? And accuse them of being Nazi? Or are you just so full of Jealousy? I step back from such drama and I would never engage, or victimize self.
some people feel alive by causing drama.
some actually lie about others or libel, in order to feel important.
I usually ignore such people. sooner or later , when one doesn't give them energy, they go away.
i had one person call me names and actually make false claims about me here. I just ignored the person.
Why do some people falsely accuse others? How can anyone do something so despicable to another human being?? I am sure that Scott is the better person in this case and will ignore your remarks. As he does with most all negative drama on this blog.

Sherman Hubbard

2/7/2014 08:10:58 am

Have any of you read the scientific report "Asiatic Echoes - The Identification of Ancient Chinese Pictograms in pre-Columbian North American Rock Writing" by Dr. John Ruskamp?

Ron

2/9/2014 10:40:49 am

Sherman,

Please relate the academic authority of Runskamp's work?
What academic journal(s) has it been published in?
What scientific research has cited any part of his "commercial book" as a source of reference?

Here's what is obviously easy to ascertain about him with a little time looking for facts:

His bio reads:
John Ruskamp is the Senior Research Analyst for Epigraphic Research, a registered Illinois association dedicated to the scientific investigation of some of the world's most enduring enigmas.
(A registered Illinois association!?!)
Currently John is involved with the Adler Planetarium's near-space high altitude balloon program and lectures on the following topics: "The Identification of Ancient Chinese Pictograms in pre-Columbian North American Rock Writing;" "The Scientific Studies of the Shroud of Turin;" and "The Cultural Significance of the Hooper Ranch Pueblo Sun-dagger Shrine and Quetzalcoatl effigy."

So what is Epigraphic Research? It’s website (http://asiaticechoes.org/about_epigraphic_research) states:

Epigraphic Research is a registered Illinois research association dedicated to the rigorous scientific study of some of the world's most enduring enigmas.
Current projects include: monitoring and disseminating scientific research about the Shroud of Turin; investigation of the Hooper Ranch Pueblo sun-dagger shrine and Quetzalcoatl effigy site; and the ongoing identification of ancient Chinese based pictograms located in the North American rock writing record.

So far it sounds like a lot of cut and paste. What about his “current projects”? A review of public information about him indicates that only thing he is apparently “involved in” at the Adler Planetarium is that he is listed as the licensee for the Radio Club. He has never lectured there.
The first lecture topic listed is the title of his book, which I presume means that rather than a scholarly presentation he probably just talks about it then tries to sell it.
He has performed no known research about the Shroud of Turin. His “lectures” about the shroud have taken place at such well known academic halls as the Resurrection Lutheran Church in Chicago and Cross Lutheran Church in Yorkville, Illinois in 2011. He has one upcoming in March for the Earth Science Club of Northern Illinois. And apparently nowhere else, at no other time.

So I say again:
Please relate the academic authority of Runskamp's work?
What academic journal(s) has it been published in?
What scientific research has cited any part of his "commercial book" as a source of reference?

michael montgomery

2/8/2014 07:29:42 am

People with the negative attitude Scott Wolters is not claiming to be the worlds smartest guy out there he is just simplifying and telling us there is something out there before Christopher Columbus I also followed his show and I also did reports on the places he showed us and my reports are very identical to his. Please remember its only entertainment. if you don't like it don't watch it and give the guy a break.

Martha

2/12/2014 02:20:13 am

You people suck I use to love watching America Unearthed till i read all this crap.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

2/12/2014 09:29:39 am

Every party of any size seems to attract a few dedicated "poopers" ...

Nico Beldoni link

2/12/2014 09:32:13 am

'... before Christopher Columbus I also followed his show and I also did reports on the places he showed us and my reports are very identical to his.'

Dinkums!

But maybe I should give you a rest.

Kevin link

2/15/2014 09:33:04 am

No matter whom the person is, as soon as they hit the public light they come under public scrutiny. I don't know Mr. Wolter...but I do watch his show with my children. Some things I agree with and some things I do not. For example, the Dinosaur on the Templar Knight sword; Mr. Wolter claimed this was a lizard. I have never seen a lizard like that. But I have seen dinosaur that looked like that. However, since neither Mr. Wolter were there when that etching was made...who is to say for certain?

As far as his educational credentials are concerned. Mr. Wolter has a BA degree in geology. This is not in dispute. His self-given title of Forensic Geologist. The dictionary says that "Forensic" is an adjective that means, "pertaining to, connected with, or used in courts of law or public discussion and debate." This is EXACTLY what Mr. Wolter does...He is a Geologist and he raises hard questions about what we know to be our American History....and he challenges it and opens it up for public discussion and debate. The Title is perfect for what he does.

Now, on to the highly disputed honorary Master's Degree. I have no doubt that this is "authentic". Who bestowed this "honor" upon him I cannot be certain. But who cares...the MA is an HONORARY degree...even if it would turn out I am completely wrong and it is not real...who cares...it is NOT REAL...and never was. It was not an academic degree he earned by sitting in a seat at some University.

So, let’s get back to the forensic geology which Mr. Wolter is so talented at presenting...lets discuss our opinions from the evidence presented...or if you choose don't watch his show. Science and history very much lend itself to interested and highly debated contests…let’s not lose sight of what we all can learn from these debates.

sherri

2/15/2014 02:37:49 pm

I was so excited when this series first began. At the end of the first episode, I was incredibly disappointed. Nothing was proven, just more suppositions, more "could have been", "might be possible", etc. When is there actually going to be an episode where information which was never found before is finally made public? From the looks of the new shows, that is not happening anytime too soon! The show is a phony representation of science or pseudo-science because nothing is ever found or proven.

Kevin link

2/15/2014 03:59:25 pm

Sherri:

I too am disappointed that at the end of the episode...in most of them...I would say 7 out 10...they just leave you with more questions. Sometimes, and this is very exciting, they find answers. The only thing I would say is ...lets not lose sight of the spirit of the show...I think the spirit of the show is to INVESTIGATE. I remember watching the Pilot for Cold Case. The very first episode...the PILOT...they didn't solve the crime. Talk about a let down. :) The spirit of the show is not to solve everything..."FORENSIC"...often times the idea is to raise more questions so that we can solve some of these...or some just may not have enough to be solved. It's tough solving the secrets of the universe in 40 minutes. But now the same issues are presented before millions...to be discussed, scrutinized and researched. Then maybe...just maybe we can solve the secrets of the universe! Take care....Kevin

Kevin link

2/15/2014 04:00:31 pm

white coat

2/15/2014 07:48:14 pm

Most that is seen as true is. There are reasons why "what we have been taught are not true" cannot be re-wrote. I have seen sights and know what they say of the past as do many others. Much is interesting as well as fact. We on the earth part titled the United States must relax and enjoy what is left of what our founders left to us. To the few who understand the distant past hold tight and pass to others who you see fit to overtake your knowledge for ages to pass. One day more knowledge will be shared of human&earths past. Our world is more obvious than we. .. . .. . ..

Andreas

2/20/2014 03:46:59 am

I personally like the show. Yes at some points Scott is 'pushing' his thoughts about what happened in his oppionion but that is what I like about him because most people nowadays only believe in what everyone else believes. And yes there is also some 'drama' added but hey this is tv man.

How much worth is a degree that is based on books that doesn't tell (the whole) truth?
And remember that a lot of people who have become icons didn't even finish school.

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create.”

-Albert Einstein.

Regards,

Andreas

Ron

2/22/2014 04:20:15 am

Andreas

Outside of your cut and paste quote, the poor grammar and spelling errors in your post are clear illustrations of the important need to “finish school” and the extraordinary value of a college degree “based on books.” Thank you for serving as a prime example of fans of this show.

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
- Albert Einstein

Regards,

Ron

Lynn

2/22/2014 04:44:02 pm

America Unearthed...what a joke. It doesn't suprise me that the host isnt an actual "forensic geologist".The average joe watching the show can tell he doesnt know what he's talking about. I for one cant stand the guy and wouldnt let him investigate the concrete in my house foundation. I guess if HC would make a show with this joker as a host they would make a show about anything....

Scott Lund

2/22/2014 07:14:15 pm

Lynn, above you is Ron....Ron, below you is Lynn. Go to it kids, it is obvious you both need it desperately.

Dan

3/4/2014 05:11:59 am

Wow! Looks like a group of people that need jobs. After a long week's work, the show is entertaining and so is Scott. Nothing more, nothing less. When the hour is up, believe what you want to believe.

Ron

3/5/2014 02:30:02 pm

Yes!

An hour you will never get back...

Ron

joe

3/13/2014 07:06:11 am

What I dislike most abut this show is he seems to start at the middle, follows what can be called anecdotal at best and claims are nothing more than assumptions. Lets take the Ark of the covenant ,the holy grail, and the giant cave in the grand canyon. He first needs to prove they actually exists. He just presumes they are real without any facts too back up this belief. kinda pouts the cart before the horse

Don

3/23/2014 11:55:29 am

Scott Wolters is totally full of shit

Scott Lund

3/24/2014 05:56:40 am

Gee Don, is that how the whole trailer park feels, or just you?

Doug link

3/24/2014 08:44:38 am

Does it appear to anyone else, but there seems to be a whole lot of villages missing their idots???

Scott Lund

3/24/2014 12:25:23 pm

"Does it appear to anyone else, but there seems to be a whole lot of villages missing their idots???"

Yes Doug, they are missing their "idots" but the humor in the irony is making it bearable...

Doug

3/25/2014 05:30:16 am

Touche' Scott....When times get unbearable and I can stomach it, I'll read and catch up on some of the comments posted here which reels me back to reality... I then remember, there are some really Special Kinda Stupid people out there - and they don't know their "Special."

Scott Lund

3/26/2014 04:05:34 pm

Special is as special does....I am as guilty as the next in going there, but I personally hate when people think they are smarter than others when in reality they are just more susceptible to brainwashing or traditional paradigms and unwilling to negotiate those beliefs. To dash that what someone has drawn a correlation towards after intensive study, and to do that because it does not hit all of "their" experiences, does not necessarily mean it is wrong, perhaps it means perhaps they should widen their horizons. Sorry, saw a soap box that had the words, "Climb Me," upon it and I support a following directions paradigm.

Alwayswondering link

3/26/2014 12:27:22 pm

Seems to me Mr Wolter's show has done exactly what it was intended to do.....cause questioning and heated discussion. Whether or not his credentials stand up to 'accepted' standards would seem to be beside the point. I would say we should always question the status quo, always strive to learn more, always seek truth. It is what I like to call 'anglo-european arrogance' to firmly hold to the belief that the americas were soley discovered by European explorers thoughout history. Why is it so hard for the white man to accept that there is a history to this continent that came before him?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

3/27/2014 05:16:02 pm

Yes … The H-2 America Unearthed TV shows have a VERY positive value in stimulating interest in and discussion of North American History and pre-History ...

Ron

4/1/2014 04:38:21 pm

Yes...The H-2 America Unearthed TV shows have concentrated the focus of numerous wild-eyed, mouth-breathing, conspiracy-spewing nut jobs on this website for well over a year. I’d say that makes life for intelligent Americans safer (as well as offering us opportunities for immense jocularity)…

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/2/2014 04:43:05 pm

April Fool … !!! Good one ..

Scott Lund

4/2/2014 09:14:13 pm

Aww Rev, I missed it and got fooled....I must have been focused on closing my mouth as I breath. I guess me doin that kept Ron from being a target of immense jocularity...Maybe next time!

(close...breathe....exhale...close....breath)

Robert Goodyear

12/3/2014 09:51:46 am

... and he might be marginally believable had he not lied about his credentials.

Christopher Mann

4/6/2014 05:26:30 am

Let me begin by admitting what many will conclude from my remarks. I am not a scholar, in contemporary vernacular. I have never studied Archaeology, Geology, or even a rudimentary introduction to Physical Education, at any institution of advanced learning. I am a U.S. Army infantry veteran and just about as “un-extraordinary” as one can be. I have a high school education which I’m sure many who comment here, will be rather quick to point out; based on my less than exemplary grammar and punctuation. Having said that, I submit to you that I think, I question, and I study. I do not require a college degree to do so and I can assure that I often exert little mental energy when having a verbal dialogue with many alumni who by collegiate proclamation, and by proxy, call themselves scholars. To whatever field of study I choose to devote my mental and physical energy, I consider myself an “ist,” as it were.
As it would relate, I am indifferent about Scott Wolter. I cannot say that I see him as a scholar, but I also do not see him as the “village idiot.” I find the “America Unearthed” television show often reaches conclusions impetuously, and hypotheses are quite often founded in conjecture. I must ask however; does conjecture not have some fundamental relationship with theory and hypothesis? How often does a major scientific discovery occur that isn't at some point, rooted in supposition? I have nothing against Scott Wolter other than his propensity to be convinced by his own speculations, based on insufficient research. Let us however explore his ambitious claims with open eyes, rather than blindly dispel them based solely on his CV. I mean no offense, just the thoughts of an "Average Joe..."

Christopher Mann

Whitfield

4/7/2014 11:32:30 am

Scott
Most of the previous writers seemed to have missed the point of your explorations. It doesn't matter what your credentials are, you are opening a door that leads to Truth. And you are questioning the mind-bound Orthodoxy. The greatest failure of Humankind is Ignorance.
Keep digging.

Ge Ki

4/8/2014 06:13:44 am

Whitfield - You are missing the point. The point is that we don't have to be fooled into becoming interested in history. You seem to believe it's OK to tell a kid "Hey kid, did you know that Geronimo could fly?" because it would get the kid interested in Geronimo. It's fine to lie. However, a good teacher and the truth can be just as interesting. Besides, there are plenty of people out there who would simply believe that Geronimo could fly, and then spread it on to others, without bothering to study it. Pseudo-science harms our kids and our society.

Sherry link

4/12/2014 04:20:59 am

Well played sir. It's o.k. to question authority. Don't be mindless 'sheep' and wonder..."Is this true"? Just because it says so in the books... doesn't mean it's SO.

Al Barrs

4/12/2014 07:31:13 am

So, just what did your expect and prove by your attack of Scott Wolter? That your are superior to him? That your are some kind of expert investigator? What??? If you don't like Scott or for whatever reason don't watch or read his accounts... Who cares from where his education came from...the college of hard knocks is still the best teacher... So, what secret are you hiding about yourself?

Jason Colavito link

4/12/2014 07:36:08 am

Tell me, Al: Do you yell back at the news whenever they report something bad about someone you like? Sometimes a news story is just a news story. Were you outraged when Robert Irvine's resume was revealed to be a fake? Did you protest the TV station that broadcast the news?

More to the point: Where are you in the comments on my articles exposing Sean David Morton for his misrepresentation of his PhD, or Robert Temple for his credential inflation? What's so special to you about Scott Wolter?

11/4/2014 11:59:02 am

Jason,

Really, let it go! Get a job or something to occupy your mind.

I wonder just how long your list is of "discredited people". I think you have left the world of "hobby" and arrived at obsession? What does this really do for you when you discover someone has exaggerated their education? Do you personally feel smarter? You are starting to sound crazy.

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 07:41:13 am

Al Barrs - It makes no difference who says it - Scott Wolter lied. It doesn't matter if the person saying that is an expert investigator or a 10-year old child. Scott Wolter lied. There are plenty of good people who do great work without an official degree. But they don't lie about their qualifications. Wolter lied. If you think it's OK to lie about having a degree, then that shows what your priorities are.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/12/2014 08:09:33 am

Gi Ke (whoever you are) --

*sigh*

again

Scott Wolter didn't "lie" about his education and degree(s) …

The whole bit was an innocent misunderstanding, which Scott cleared up a year and half ago … Get OVER it …

I have known Scott Wolter as a personal friend and professional colleague for 25+ years … We have worked together on a number of scientific educational products … I KNOW that he is NOT a substantially dishonest person … Is he a "god" -- PERFECT in every respect … ??? No … Neither are you …

Get OVER it already ...

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 08:50:44 am

"Reverend" Phil, you established long ago that you're OK with lying, so your moral compass doesn't mean much. Besides, a cuppa coffee is an honorary degree to nobody but Wolter. Just curious, "Reverend," do you preach that the Bible's Joshua was a good guy? 'Cause he sure did slaughter a lot of innocents - children, babies, fetuses, mothers, you name it. Is that your moral compass?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/12/2014 10:31:50 am

No … I am NOT "okay with lying" … nor am I "okay" with misrepresenting the views and character of other persons ...

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 10:52:26 am

"Reverend" Phil - But you're OK with slaughter.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/12/2014 05:25:11 pm

Ki Ge (whoever you are) …

I am "okay" with "Kosher" slaughter … Done properly, it is humane, and results in the best quality meat ...

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 05:42:15 pm

"Reverend" Phil - Yep, I knew you were afraid to answer the question.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/12/2014 05:50:43 pm

Ge Ke (whoever you are) --

Okay … You're a "vegan" and you object to ANY "slaughter," kosher or otherwise … What ever ...

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 10:55:29 pm

"Reverend" Phil - Cracking ourselves up, are we? Guess you're not accustomed to answering questions about Joshua's murderous ways. You just do the one-way preachy-thing.

Will Phil

4/12/2014 10:13:23 am

Rev,
The problem is Americans today don't understand science. They have no real concept of scientific theory. Rather than investigate, they just accept. A perfect example is natural selection. All those who won't accept it that I've talked with never read Darwin's work, are looked at the scientific evidence. They just dismiss it as false. But as soon as some untrained clown decides he has found human and dino footprints together, they accept it as valid "scientific" proof.
Wolter takes advantage of peoples ignorance to make money. When people are to ignorant, biased, and/or lazy to investigate on their own, You get works like Wolter's garbage, Chariots of the Gods, et al.
If he's a professional college of yours, I'd be interested in knowing the profession?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/12/2014 10:34:03 am

As a member of the biology section of the American Association for the Advancement of Science for now forty years, I do agree that the general public knowledge and impressions of "Science" are woefully poor ...

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 06:52:53 pm

Lest "Reverend" Phil be mistaken for an actual scientist, it is important to note that being "a member of the biology section of the AAAS" requires nothing but paying the membership fee. Readers can see that by clicking through the form here: https://pubs.aaas.org/org_membership/new_member_setup.asp?p=2

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/13/2014 05:48:28 am

Ge Ke (whoever you are) --

Yes … "Science" is an open enterprise that doesn't require passing YOUR muster ...

Ge Ki

4/13/2014 09:05:12 am

Science is an open enterprise that must accept rational criticism from all, including me. But in your world, Scott Wolter's ideas should not be criticized, 'cause he's a friend of yours.

Bob Miller

4/12/2014 11:21:58 am

What I find depressing about America Unearthed and other similar shows, many of which appear on The History Channel, is that anyone would actually take these things seriously. This is a sad commentary on our educational level and the critical thinking skills of so many people. This show fits right in with the "monster" and the ancient alien shows, etc. The question is whether Scott Wolter is simply a bald-faced liar and scam artist or whether he actually believes this nonsense himself. I'm betting on the former. If that's the case, he's a low-down scumbag.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/12/2014 05:22:32 pm

Bob Miller --

Relax … Lighten up …

Scott Wolter is the host of a series of interesting and controversial TV shows about North American history and pre-history … They are commercially produced and marketed to draw an audience that will stick around long enough to see the paid adverts …

Whatever one thinks about the specific claims and content of any of the episodes, IMHO, the series has a positive value in stimulating interest in and discussion of some intriguing questions about North American history and pre-history ...

If you find the shows less than worth your while … change the channel ...

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 05:40:40 pm

"Reverend" Phil, unlike you, I am concerned not only with myself, but also with the others in our society being lied to by Wolter. So just changing the channel doesn't get it.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/12/2014 05:48:42 pm

Well …

The "America Unearthed" H2 TV shows are *out*there* in PUBLIC, for anyone and everyone to see, watch, hear, discuss and argue about …

Similarly, everything Scott Wolter has written that has been published is OPENLY readily available for examination, study and critique …

YOU seem to be bothered that YOU haven't been granted some kind of right to review the stuff BEFORE it is put out*there … and that nobody first consults YOU to determine FOR them (for ALL of us … !!!) what is in fact true and correct … ("imprimatur" … "nihil obstat")

Sorry … But as far as I'm aware, we only have ONE Pope at a time ...

Ge Ki

4/12/2014 06:46:01 pm

"reverend" Phil: Of course, you're veering off-topic and making bizarre statements about me now that your previous point has been obliterated and you're out of gas on that one. Anyone can scan this entire page and see that I've never had the slightest desire to review Wolter's lunacy before it goes public. But as we've seen all along, lying is fine with you.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/13/2014 10:38:08 am

Gi Ke (whoever you are) --

lighten up

Ge Ki

4/13/2014 01:23:40 pm

"Reverend" Phil - You wish. But Wolter's lying doesn't inspire any lightness in me. I have no intention of "lightening up" for that charlatan or for his supporters like you.

Scott Lund

4/13/2014 01:58:56 pm

I am speculating someone who feels more intelligent than the presenter submitted something to the show and was ignored....A woman scorned and all will never lighten up....

Ge Ki

4/13/2014 02:24:15 pm

Yes folks, Scott Lund's conclusions are every bit as evidence-based as Scott Wolter's. Believe me Scott, I have nothing that Wolter would be interested in. And if I did, I would publish it in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, as Wolter should attempt to do. No self-respecting scientist would break his discoveries on non-peer-reviewed media such as Wolter's TV show. Who wants to end up like Fleischmann & Pons?

Steve

8/30/2015 05:36:51 am

What kind of reverend will follow Wolters as he lied to his audience about Jesus? Check yourself, I doubt your a 'christian' if you do or your credtials are as phony as Wolters honorary degree.

Scott Lund

4/13/2014 02:27:26 pm

Bob Miller: What I find depressing about commentators of this and other similar shows, many of which appear on The History Channel, is that people are not creative enough to grasp the real possibilities and pontificate the negative to anyone that does actually take these things seriously. This is promoting a sad commentary on our future educational level and the creative thinking skills of so many people. This show fits right in with an accelerated progress of discovery. The question is whether Scott Wolter is simply a great presenter or whether he actually believes these connections of common sense himself that lead to and promote reasons to discover the truth.. I'm betting on both. If that's the case, the people who try to stop that, and the progress it could create, are not much more in my eyes, than low-down scumbags.

Scott Lund

4/13/2014 02:31:11 pm

Scott Lund

4/13/2014 02:42:43 pm

GE KI, of the sacred "Peer Reviewed" journals older than 8 years, but not older than 50 years, and not including math or chemistry, how many can be quoted as fact today? Keep the faith Ge Ki, and remember, Clovis first!

Ge Ki

4/14/2014 04:31:24 pm

Scott Lund: First, Will Phil addressed your comment below; see his reply to "Reverend" Phil.

Second: The vast majority of peer-reviewed journal articles over the last 50 years can be "quoted as fact" today. That's because the BS gets weeded out by the stringency that is provided by peer-review. That's why Scott Wolter doesn't want to subject his BS to peer-review before going public with it.

Your question suggests that exposing a BS research article to critics makes it MORE likely for that BS to get published. By your logic, Wolter's non-peer-reviewed "findings" are more reliable than what's been peer-reviewed. That idea obviously collapses on its own.

will phil

4/13/2014 12:34:02 am

Rev,
I like your statement that you and Scott Wolter "have worked together on a number of scientific educational products". He has shown a complete disregard of scientific method and you seem to think that joining AAAS makes you a research scientist.
You need to stick with the bible; it requires faith with no proof (same as Wolter's trash).
I hope Wolter does his concrete testing with a lot more care than he does "science". An undergrad degree does qualify him to do lab tests, but certainly not unsupervised research. You have to prove yourself capable to do research for anyone except the History channel.
Find one state level university, even his own University of Minnesota-Duluth, to verify ANY of his results. Good luck with that.
Read some of the articles published by the AAAS and you'll see how science is tested, reviewed, documented, and mainly shown to be reproducible.
The Vikings sailed South to the Gulf of Mexico, sailed up the Mississippi, and cut over to Oklahoma? Seriously? Then carved a rock to mark their land claim? Then just left? Seriously?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/13/2014 05:52:21 am

Indeed, the vagaries of REAL history can be puzzling …

Why DID the Scandinavian Vikings establish a settlement at L'Anse aux Meadows … and then LEAVE … ???

Having established contacts with North and South America, why didn't the people of Hawaii do MORE in the way of trade, etc., with the peoples of North and South America … ???

Who knows … ???

will phil

4/13/2014 11:39:15 pm

Simple rev. I'll put it in terms you can believe, that aren't too complex. The Vikings obviously didn't find any big rocks to carve their land claims on. Hence, with no runic property deeds, they had to leave.
The people of Hawaii had to stop visiting the Americas after the aliens quit taking them in their space ships because they had to go build the pyramids, as proven in the scientific work "Chariots of the Gods".
Scott Lund,
You prove his point. Had you any true knowledge of science, you would know sacred "Peer Reviewed" journals is a moronic statement. The journals aren't peer reviewed, the works in them are. And of the works in the journals, most of the work stands, even from 50 years ago and more. The theories themselves may be modified as more data is added and the theories get refined, but the data and results that were published are only extremely rarely proven false. The difference is that Wolter's trash has nothing to verify. The vast majority of theories are still valid and accepted because they are peer reviewed and can be duplicated.
I can't believe people are so stupid to think that any scientist would not be thrilled beyond belief to find proof of a fact unknown prior to them discovering it. The Viking settlement at L'Anse aux Meadows is a perfect example. They had to allow peer review for the claim to be verified, and it was when they submitted enough evidence. No scientist said Vikings did not find the new world before Columbus, it was known from the Sagas. Science needed proof that the specific site was Viking. Like Global warming, aka Climate change, a good theory will be tested, refined, and either accepted or rejected based on experimentation and observation. Just saying "I'm right and science is wrong and I don't have to prove anything or be reviewed by others" doesn't cut it.
If I claim I can cure cancer, or you going to use my methods or would you want that closed minded crap Medical science uses because of their peer reviewed mumbo-jumbo. Personally, I want it peer reviewed and tested before it's used to treat me.
As far as "pontificate the negative to anyone that does actually take these things seriously" the whole point is that there are people who are seriously lacking any knowledge of science that do take his crap seriously. When a charlatan tells you not to trust the Smithsonian, you may want to question why not. I'm sure they might want to be the only museum in the world with valid, proven new world Viking inscriptions referring to Vikings meandering around North America as far as Oklahoma.
Maybe if Wolter would teach scientists to use cell phone apps to prove theories, we'd all know a lot more about our world.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/14/2014 04:43:16 pm

Will Phil --

Thanks for clearing it all up so clearly up ...

Ge Ki

4/14/2014 04:54:33 pm

Translation of "Reverend" Phil's comment: Gee, Will Phil, can't you write something more in line with my attention span? I like bumper stickers. Will you buy me something?"

will phil

4/14/2014 08:05:58 pm

Rev,
I apologize for trying to make you think. I know it conflicts with the supernatural wonders in your biblical world, where the world stands still so a Jewish leader can complete the total slaughter of his enemies, sound makes the walls of a fortified city fall, god tells his chosen people to slaughter everyone except the young virgin females (for obvious breeding purposes), a man can beat his slaves as long as they can stand on there own after 3 days and it's not a sin, a man made a boat that held pairs of every animal on the planet (including the new world, which he didn't know existed), and my personal favorite, the Egyptian Pharoahs had magicians who could throw staffs on the floor and have then turn into snakes. Accept that, and Vikings in Oklahoma makes sense.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/15/2014 10:20:37 am

Thanks AGAIN for clearing it all up and up and UP -- TWICE in a ROW … !!!

WOW … !!!

Ge Ki

4/15/2014 10:38:59 am

"Reverend" Phil - Here's a question short enough for even you: Was the Bible's Joshua a good guy, or a bad guy? You remember, he's the guy who slaughtered children, babies, and fetuses in Jericho and elsewhere. Cuz God told him to.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/15/2014 10:42:08 am

Ge Ke (whoever you are) --

Why do you want to know … ??? Are you considering naming your son, "Joshua" … ??? Or, is your daughter dating a guy by that name … ???

What's UP … ???

Ge Ki

4/15/2014 05:26:37 pm

Because I want to know. When other Christians ask you if Joshua was a good guy or a bad guy, how do you answer them?

Ge Ki

4/15/2014 11:43:27 am

Translating again for "Reverend" Phil: "I can't answer the question, or else it's curtains for my delicate Biblical belief system, so I'll try to deflect it with the absolute best excuse for humor I can scrape together!"

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/15/2014 02:20:53 pm

As It is Written:

"That's so funny, I forgot to laugh …!!! "

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/15/2014 02:43:43 pm

But …

Why are you so interested in "Joshua" … ??? (and I seem to recall that you also expressed an interest in Kosher Slaughter … ??? Are you studying Torah … ??? Considering Conversion … ???)

Patrick Bisson

4/16/2014 10:03:46 am

Thanks for creating this blog Jason after watching the America Unearthed show on Isle Royale I was sick to my stomach... I live close by.
Keep up the good work sir!

Ron

4/19/2014 09:07:13 am

Mr. Gotsch-

Considering your rather rabid and ongoing defense of Wolter's lying about his phantom degree in this laughable thread, when will you take the time to defend him in any other of Mr. Calavito's reviews? For instance: there are currently 133 comments to Calavito's review of the AU episode "Great Lakes Copper Heist", yet strangely your name appears nowhere to defend Wolter's "science".
I assume this means you agree with how ludicrous Wolter's assumptions are...

Ron

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/19/2014 09:46:32 am

"rabid" … ??? (ummm, kitten … I'm not the one infected with "rabies" in these blogs …)

LOL …

Ge Ki

4/22/2014 12:58:14 pm

Ron, great point. As usual, and as shown many times on this page, "Reverend" Phil resorts to lame "humor" when unable to answer a question.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/22/2014 02:08:33 pm

Two hydrogen atoms had stopped off for a cold one on their way home from work …

As they were leaving the bar, one said, "Oh … !!! I have to go back inside. I left my electron on the bar …"

"Are you sure … ???

"Yes. I'm positive …"

Rev. Phil Gotsch

4/22/2014 05:24:33 pm

FABULOUS new set of jokes on "Late Show with Dave Letterman" tonight … but … I don't dare post them here, as they are STRICTLY Adults*ONLY ...

Scott Lund

4/22/2014 08:55:11 pm

Kitten, lol...Rev, I think he is one step away from Sugar Plum.

CPT Rick

4/29/2014 02:58:20 pm

I do believe Mr. Scott Wolters has a vast amount of technical knowledge and not just here say info. Instead of picking at his theories as imaginary in nature go and prove it yourself. Fact is fact and proof is proof I always say. I myself don't believe in the history text books about how we got here in the first place. So many inaccurate reports on our United States History in general. Historians make up stories in order to make things believable but where is the actual proof. Our Government keeps vast amounts of true historical data secret from the public. Look at the Grand Canyon per say. The Smithsonian Museum conducted a investigation in 1909 concerning a possibility of actual Egyptians living in or near the Grand Canyon in caves. They apparently found mummies and other artifacts but as usual they back paddled back in 1909 saying nothing was found even though evidence supported otherwise. Is that all myth as well? The government wont let any helicoptor fly in the area where a sopposive cave where all these artifacts lie waiting for us to analyze and share with the world. I guess they don't want the public to realize that our american history that has been written is all not true and there is more that needs to be said. Scott Wolters and others out in the real world are trying to get the message out but being stifled at every corner. Why ?

Indiana Jones

9/22/2014 09:52:48 am

God Bless you CPT Rick, but you're another lost soul in trying to sort out what is fact and what is fiction. You don't see your own vacillating contradictions as you move from "I don't believe US History textbooks, but I do believe Egyptians were found in Grand Canyon caves". Oh boy. Well, I'm a real scientist, Anthropologist actually, and the starting point for all your beliefs and disbeliefs should start with the sources, how credible are they in the real scientific community, and have they been vetted by real scientific rigor and comprehensive investigation. Real science delves deep in evidence without passion, prejudice or preconceived conclusion. A good scientist just lets the evidence reveal what it reveals, and such evidence must be substantial enough to survive his or her own scientific ethics and the scrutiny of the scientific community. My advice to you is to first figure out what science, it's research methods, and it considers facts really are, and then base your conclusions on that. Then take it case by case, some hypotheses are vetted by good science, others are not. Once your good at it, then you can more easily separate out two and attach yourself to real fact-based theories. Things like Evolution, Plate Tectonics, and that the Maya culture actually came from the Maya area (not Egypt or aliens) are based in well-researched studies over many years with tons of supporting facts or evidence, critiqued and upheld by a large scientific community. Other conclusions, you'll see, are not. When you get good at this you'll dismiss most of your "conspiracy theories", like the government is hiding scientific discovery from us, and embrace practical, logical reasoning behind good science, separating out desire, belief, and imagination from well established facts. I Wish You Luck, Professor Jones

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5/18/2014 01:24:23 pm

The history everybody is looking for and trying to prove is spelled out at VoyageoftheThundergods.com

The Greeks and Crimean witches were in America a long time ago!

Matthew J. Willis

6/13/2014 01:45:31 am

So......., did that chick ever get her nails done?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

7/4/2014 03:11:05 am

Derek Buttery

7/22/2014 08:19:41 am

WOW!!

Certainly a lot of self important people that post here, and each one 'better' than the previous or next...

I am 100% happy to notify everyone that doesn't care, I know nothing!, and I am happy with this knowledge.

Love this blog's entertainment factor.

Steve White

7/22/2014 04:16:02 pm

Hello Scott,

All this unfortunate distraction regarding credentials and English grammar (please excuse any mistake I might make) aside, I think your H2 program is very interesting and important. I've been following it for a while. However, I do wonder why you don't cite the work of Cyrus Gordon (whose credentials are legendary, if that helps-he was with Wooley in Mesopotamia) and his work on the Bat Creek Stone which supports your position. He further takes it to suggest that Bar Kokhba made it to "ol' Kintuk" also Tennesee and Georgia, where he made quite an impression on the Yuchi, who still practice Sukkot (in its ancient form) to this day.
Also in your corner would be Gloria Farley with her book, In Plain Sight, about the Heavener Rune Stone and many other amazing artefacts from all over the ancient (old) world, but found in Oklahoma and several other states.
But to cut to the chase, I'll be at a family reunion in Minnesota on Saturday and, as it turns out, it's near the Alexandria Museum and as it further turns out, you're the director (?!)
I'll try to take advantage of this brief window of opportunity and get out there on Saturday and maybe meet you, maybe discuss a possible site in the vicinity of Greenwich, Conn.

Steve W

Debbie

8/3/2014 11:00:57 am

I agree with sayitaintso. Scott is a handsome guy and I enjoy the shows. He IS a geologist after all, so give him a break!

8/12/2014 08:08:41 pm

I'll just leave this over here:

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t25432/

http://www.science-bbs.com/13-archaeology/55b2f1ee990f3031.htm

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.archaeology/gwfI40olhbQ/_RMOpvxrK2EJ

Dani

8/14/2014 07:50:55 am

Scott is smiling as he totes all his plunder to the bank.
I wonder how the Ad Men generated the hype "Go See the New World", and win a new donkey, to all those cultures when very few (Vikings, some South Americans) even knew North America existed.
It wasn't like "hey I hear the Grand Canyon is a nice place to visit, pack a lunch and let's go.

Jay Bee

9/3/2014 06:44:12 pm

Wolters is an intellectual plagiarist and thief! All he does is take other scholar's ideas,theories and findings and attempts to take credit for them.

Ann L

9/5/2014 09:21:45 am

Jason Colavito - Thanks for this web page. I once told my daughter to watch more documentaries like the Discovery Channel showed, instead of soaps and reality tv. Then she started telling me about strange things which were 'definitely true' because she'd seen it on a documentary with experts.
Truth and reality are important and we have to weed them out from lies and misinformation. Thanks again.

John Ballas

10/19/2014 07:53:37 am

Good point Ann. It is sort of like what Russians have to do when they watch the News.

Nivek Noyl

9/10/2014 11:31:21 am

It's tv people. We watch it for ENTERTAINMENT. If you take it seriously YOU are an idiot.

Indiana Jones

9/22/2014 10:14:10 am

I ran across this website to find out more about Scott Wolter because a few of my students had questions from his show (which I have never seen), and according to much of what they passed on, it does appear to be either quasi-science or pseudo-science with a flare for the drama. This is quite common in recent years, as much about entertainment than anything else. The real science is often to detailed, dry, complex and holistic to grasp and therefore no hold the attention of most TV audiences. So I'm just responding here in general to much of the contraversy I skimmed through in this blog, many of which are souls in trying to sort out what is fact and what is fiction in programs like Scott Wolter's. Folks don't see their own vacillating contradictions as they move from "I don't believe US History textbooks, but I do believe Egyptians were found in Grand Canyon caves" (about 10 blogs back). Oh boy. Well, I'm a real scientist, Anthropologist actually, with real graduate degrees, and I'll tell you the starting point for all your beliefs and disbeliefs should start with the sources, how credible are they in the real scientific community, and have they been vetted by real scientific rigor (debate) and comprehensive investigation. Real science delves deep in evidence without passion, prejudice or preconceived conclusion. A good scientist just lets the evidence reveal what it reveals, and such evidence must be substantial enough (not 1 bone, 1 artifact) to survive his or her own scientific ethics and the scrutiny of the scientific community. My advice to you is to first figure out what is real science, it's research methods, and how it considers facts, and then base your conclusions on that. Then take it case by case, some hypotheses are vetted by good science, others are not. Once your good at it, then you can more easily separate out the two and attach yourself to real fact-based theories. Things like Evolution, Plate Tectonics, and that the Ancient Maya actually came from the Maya area (not Egypt or aliens) are all three based in well-researched studies over many years with tons of supporting facts or evidence, critiqued and upheld by a large scientific community. Other conclusions, you'll see, are not. When you get good at this you'll dismiss most of your "conspiracy theories", like "the government is hiding scientific discoveries from us", and embrace practical, logical reasoning behind good science; separating out desire, belief, and imagination from well established facts. Go for it, Professor Jones

11/4/2014 05:41:58 am

So that's my life long problem, too much curiosity and not enough degrees! Ok, Mr. Indiana try selling your approach to network TV. I think any thing that awakes curiosity is good. I believe (in most cases)the average, adult, person will not believe or quote what they have seen on TV as gospel without further investigation. We certainly don't want highly educated persons to believe in TV based information, that could really screw things up. I say we get to the bottom of this, call a Kardashian and see what they think.

Mr. E

9/23/2014 10:47:43 am

Cathleen Anderson

9/28/2014 10:30:35 am

In the long run, what Scott Wolter did with this degree in a coffee cup isn't going to really matter. The fact that he is trying to rewrite history into something that clearly never happened will be what he is remembered for.

I'll bet his forensic geology business has suffered because of his show with the very sloppy "science". This stuff makes any expert testimony he is likely to give very impeachable.

John Ballas

10/19/2014 07:47:52 am

I'll bet his show have hurt absolutely nothing at all. As all science is looked at with opened minds. People say that man has never landed on the moon. And make claims that it is all a hoax. But did it hurt space exploration? Which one are you? What can you prove? What evidence can you provide about anything? Jason Colavito brings up these same very questions about Scott Wolter. And his degree. But I think Scott does bring to light some very interesting ideas. Degree or not. Somebody was here. And there is proof of this. I have seen with mine own eyes some of this evidence. Sorry to disappoint all of you.

Joe Brunetteq

10/13/2014 01:35:25 pm

I have watched some episodes of America unearthed and Scott Wolter claims so many other people came to America long ago and all these places were visited and monuments were left yet he has never proved one damn thing. The show is the same garbage as the UFO and bigfoot shows.

John Ballas

10/19/2014 07:36:23 am

Exactly.... This is the whole purpose of the show. Until somebody can prove that no others have been here. This is why we investigate this. But evidence does show that someone was here at some time before Columbus was. I would like for someone to find who these people where? After all, people are curious.

Joe Brunette

11/8/2014 10:53:48 am

I think it was the native Americans. Actually Columbus was never here in the U.S.A., he landed in Hispaniola.

Andrew Blackburn

10/19/2014 07:12:03 am

Scott Wolter isn't proving anything on the show. He is simply introducing thought provoking ideas to the public so we will research and find things out on our own. His show is basically a quick history of what is being looked at, a few artifacts, a few locations, a basis of knowledge for what is being questioned, and it is up to us to research these ideas and make a hypothesis ourselves. That is my thought about the show anyway.

Robert Goodyear

11/17/2014 11:42:39 am

Andrew,

WE do not have the credentials to draw ANY conclusions from Wolter's hypotheses. Give the name of ONE credible main stream scientist, in any field (cryptozoology is not main stream) who agrees with either Wolter, Tsoukolos, or Bobo the Sasquatch hunter.

I am submitting a program concept to H2 where I time-travel back to 1861 and join my grandfather with the 8th Illinois Cavalry.

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Dave

11/2/2014 08:14:56 am

Please stay on topic.

Robert Goodyear

11/17/2014 11:30:28 am

Scott,

I your search for Lost Giants, perhaps your should team up the equally uninformed team from H2's "Sasquatch" series.

It's obvious to me that Sasquatch and your Giants are the same beings.

In fact, get Giorgio Tsoukolapagos in on it, as well. He can prove that the earth was created by Ancient Aliens from the planet Vulcan for the sole purpose of making moron fakes LIKE HIM, YOU AND THE REST OF THE NUT CASES, prove how moronic your theories are.

Just give me ONE piece of dna that cannot be identified.

Christine

11/17/2014 07:41:38 pm

Aw come on! Leave him alone. He's got a good gig and you are just jealous. He is charming, handsome, and keeps your attention. I love watching his show and what he says interests me incredibly. A degree is not what matters. It's what you know. And he knows plenty. Besides, I'd rather watch him than ANYof you. He makes the show. What matters is what the audience wants.

Robert Goodyear

11/18/2014 05:01:01 am

Christine,

Just because you are "doing him" doesn't mean you have to stick up for him.

Perhaps I should just be mad at the History Channel and H2 for airing that kind of UNPROVEN GARBAGE.

There is ZERO proof, zilch, nada.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/18/2014 06:29:06 am

I would like to see the MMPIs of these most ardent Wolter-bashing zealots …

What makes them *tick* … ???

I dunno … *shrug*

Robert Goodyear

11/18/2014 06:40:17 am

All the "bashers," as you call us, have actual college degrees ... and use LOGIC.

You, on the other hand, probably dropped out of High School in 10th grade, and think Logic is a new brand of chewing gum.

Bring on the dna proof, if you know what that is.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/18/2014 01:54:07 pm

Okay, okay …

There is one *clue* … An intake interview is exceedingly valuable … It's made in real time and may involve responses that are more spontaneous than will be provided in a test format …

Thank you …
Anything else … ???

Robert Goodyear

11/23/2014 04:27:33 am

"Rev." Gotsch,

Read it and weep.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_parallel_(computing)

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/23/2014 08:19:10 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) --

Thank you for another *clue* …

"Word salad" is indicative -- not definitive, but certainly diagnostic ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/23/2014 10:56:41 am

As I have written previously, the H2 "America Unearthed" TV shows have positive value in stimulating interest in and encouraging discussion of North American history and prehistory ...

Robert Goodyear

11/18/2014 05:04:51 am

Christine and all other "believers," I have a family of greys living behind my neighbor's barn. They have created pigs out of chickens by manipulating their dna.

Robert Goodyear

11/21/2014 11:11:04 am

For david, roth (who must not think much of himself, since he uses all lower case for his name)

I took a course in Geology many years ago in my second year of Community College.

Therefore, I am a Geologist.

Robert Goodyear

11/22/2014 11:52:49 am

"Rev." Gotsch, In which "religion" were you ordained, or is that a title you gave yourself, as did Tsouaklos?

Can you say ExTRA-TerrestrIAL? Or as he says EXATERRESTAL?

Has anyone else notice that Georgie Porgie cannot pronounce the word THE? The way he says it pretty much sums up what I think of his theories ... DUH.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/23/2014 01:35:24 am

"Robert Goodyear" --

Why do you want to know … ??? What is your background, training and life experience … ???

Robert Goodyear

11/23/2014 04:15:44 am

Because your posts do NOT reflect ANY main stream religion.

As I said before, I took a geology course in my 2nd year of Community College.
Therefore I am a Geologist.

Now you know what I think of your self-proclaimed "Rev." title.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/23/2014 07:55:52 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) --

Kitten … Ummmm …

LOL … The posts I have made in these Wolter-bashing blogs indeed are not theological or religious in character … So, it is true that they do not "reflect a religion," mainstream or otherwise … duh …

So let me just post again what I have posted consistently …

I have known Scott Wolter for 25+ years both as a personal friend and as a professional colleague … So I know him to be a person who is essentially honest, and of good character …

Ge Ki

11/23/2014 12:36:21 pm

Oh jeez "Reverend," are you back again? Ladies and Gentlemen, meet the very revered one, "Reverend" Phil. He's nothing more than a shill for Scott Wolter and thinks that everything Wolter does is fine, because he's a friend of Phil. But there is one question that I could never get the good "Reverend" to answer, and that is: "Do you teach kids that it's OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree?" If you search this page, you'll find that I've asked Phil this question many times, and he always skirts it. Note that this question does not accuse Wolter of lying. It's just a question about what we should or should not be teaching our kids. But the revered "Reverend" Phil can't bring himself to answer it. Three guesses why. Watch now as he does it again: OK Phil, do you teach kids that it's OK to lie about receiving an honorary degree?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/23/2014 02:35:10 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

The whole bit about the honorary degree was an innocent misunderstanding … Scott Wolter cleared it up a couple of years ago … Get over it, already ...

Ge Ki

11/23/2014 03:38:42 pm

And voila! "Reverend"Phil can't go near the question.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/23/2014 04:02:12 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) …

I teach and encourage both children and adults:

(1) to AVOID being judgmental or self-righteous toward others …
(2) to correct an innocent mistake or misunderstanding …
(3) to accept graciously any admissions of having made an error ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/23/2014 05:33:31 pm

Why do I feel … like this is a *live* episode of "Portlandia" … ???
LOL ...

Ge Ki

11/23/2014 05:50:24 pm

Too bad that doesn't answer the question, "Reverend" Phil. Avoiding it, as usual.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/24/2014 03:09:19 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

LOL … have a nice day ...

President Obama

11/23/2014 01:20:41 am

Anyone that thinks Scott Wolter actually commented on this blog is a moron. Anyone can comment on here and leave whatever name they want, obviously I am not President Obama. Think about it

Robert Goodyear

11/24/2014 07:21:12 am

Terribly sorry, "Rev." Gotch.

I see that you are an "Interim" Pastor (that means they couldn't find anyone qualified) of the Faith Lutheran Church (ELCA) in Insanity, MN.

OK, so I purposely misspelled the name of the town.

The point is the same.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/24/2014 08:03:15 am

"Interim" Parish Ministry is a specialed calling in which a pastor is appointed by the bishop on a temporary basis in order to help the congregation prepare to call a long term pastor …

Robert Goodyear

11/24/2014 09:00:44 am

I have no idea what a parish or a bishop is in your "religion."
In the Roman Catholic Church, a bishop is no more than a man who sucks up to the Pope.

Who do bishops suck up to in the Lutheran church?

By the way, wasn't Martin Luther excommunicated from the Catholic church for disputing it's practices?

So why do you cling to Catholic parishes, bishops, and cardinals (if you have them)? And who is your "Holy Father?"

Lutheran hypocrisy at its worst.

Since you are so intent on believing Wolter's moronic hypotheses, did God create the first single cell life?
Did he create it ONLY on earth?
Is it impossible that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe?

Why is there air?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/24/2014 09:29:10 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) …

WOW … !!! Just … WOW … !!!

L … O … L …

You really truly have NO clue at all ...

yernightmare

12/20/2014 12:46:24 pm

You get your jollies harassing a Christian Pastor and making fun of him. Your not a man your a sick social misfit who thinks he is too mush better than anyone else and cannot ever give up the slightest bit your sick inflated ego to understand humility. Your a waist of human flesh. You have no value, no worth and should be squashed like the vermin you are. Oops maybe I'm not a really good Christian. Oh well I'll make the exception in your case jackhole.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/24/2014 08:08:58 am

"specialized" calling

Robert Goodyear

11/24/2014 10:22:50 am

Again, the most irreverent "Rev." Crotch fails to answer the questions, choosing to avert the attention from himself.

Not surprising at all.

Last question. What has Wolter PROVED to you, other than the fact that you both suck up to each other?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/24/2014 10:31:33 am

Being rigorously trained and experienced, I don't much care for the term, "proof" (except in "whiskey," math and formal logic) …

Instead, I go for "evidence" …

Based upon my own lengthy personal and professional real world real life experience, I know scott Wolter to be a person who is essentially honest and of good character …

But, no … Neither he nor I are inclined to "suck up" (except for quaffing a good cold brew) …

BTW, your juvenile "Crotch" remark (above) doesn't help your wish to be taken seriously …

*shrug*

Robert Goodyear

11/24/2014 11:17:01 am

Also, there is no PROOF OR EVIDENCE that you are divinely inspired, except the word of others as hypocritical as you.

Have another beer, or whiskey.

I prefer to abstain from all alcohol ... it tends to muddle the mind.

Robert Goodyear

11/24/2014 11:12:16 am

Fine, your Holiness, let's leave this up to the other Bloggers.

Do you agree with "Rev." Gotsch, or me?

Will you, in all your humbleness, FINALLY answer the questions, and accept the "Panel's" decision?

If the majority agree with you, I shall never say more ... on this blog.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/24/2014 11:56:51 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) …

May I please at least have the option of being confined to "the comfy chair" when the verdict of the Spanish Inquisition is announced … ???

Robert Goodyear

11/24/2014 01:29:13 pm

Mister Gotsch (whoever you are)...

Frankly, you may be confined wherever you like.

And why haven't you found out "who I am," yet?

There are only about 50 of us out here.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/24/2014 02:04:13 pm

Mr. Goodyear (whoever you are) --

LOL … Not being affiliated with the Spanish Inquisition, I am not nearly so zealous about these things as you seem to be …

I do know a very little bit about "tires," and of course we all love the blimps … but …

*shrug*

Robert Goodyear

11/24/2014 02:23:47 pm

Master Gotsch (whatever you are)...

It's obvious that you enjoy out little debate, but you have an edge ... you're a master debater

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/24/2014 02:35:38 pm

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) --

LOL … You made a cute but transparent attempt at a funny punny … but, no thank you …

And no … I don't care much for "debate," per se … The maneuvering and manipulating don't appeal to me … Going for points and trying to *win*win*win* … No, thank you …

My own preference is for genuine honest open serious conversation … but that kind of thing is increasingly rare everywhere these days ...

Ge Ki

11/25/2014 03:02:42 am

"Reverend," since you won't answer my question about the proper way to raise children, let's try a softball question from your field of study. In the Bible, Joshua tells his people that God told him that they should kill every man, woman, child, baby, and fetus in Jericho, and take the city as their own. They carry out the unimaginable slaughter, and today your religion teaches that Joshua is a hero. Do you think it's OK to kill if a god tells you to do it?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 03:08:12 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

One of the unsettling things about many of the Bible stories is that they are frequently starkly realistic, especially about nature and about human history …

Bot … *Cherry*picking* a particular incident or story or person is not a helpful approach … The entire picture must be in view ...

Ge Ki

11/25/2014 03:29:13 am

Well, you "cherry pick" in your sermons, don't you? You don't review the entire bloody Bible every Sunday. Well then, just forget the Joshua story. Do you think it's OK to kill if a god tells you to do it? How would you advise one of your congregants?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 04:45:17 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

I tend to give useful real world commentary, as per "Otto" in "A Fish Called Wanda" -- "Avoid the green ones … They're not ripe … "

Ge Ki

11/25/2014 05:01:52 am

So if one of your parishioners asked you, "Is it OK to kill if a god tells you to do it," what would you say?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 05:12:56 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

Why do you want to know … ??? Do you believe that a "god" has been telling you to hurt someone … ???

If one of my congregants asked me such a question, I would first switch into mental health intake interview mode and try to learn what lies behind such a question … See … Such a "question" requires or at least implies as pastoral relationship …

As I have indicated numerous times already, I OTOH consistently decline to "answer" a "question" posed by a Self-appointed Grand Inquisitor …

Ge Ki

11/25/2014 05:49:37 am

Why do religious figureheads try to denigrate those who question their claims? You name-call me a "Grand Inquisitor," but I am just a student of nature who does not understand how your religion makes sense to you. So yes, I ask questions. Excuse the hell out of me. Your inability to answer questions about your own religion demonstrates that you have not quite thought things through. Perhaps you were discouraged from asking questions by a name-calling minister. I, OTOH, am happy to answer any questions about my beliefs. I am not ashamed of them. I am not the one who honors murderers and those who (supposedly) direct them. You claimed that you prefer "genuine honest open serious conversation." That doesn't seem to be true either.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 07:56:35 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) …

Ah … !!! FINALLY we start to begin to "reach" … I'm a "student of Nature," too … BIG fan of biology and the earth sciences, in particular …

In my own experience and opinion, there is no conflict between good science and genuine faith, any more than there is "conflict" between, say, poetry and physics … Both are entirely legitimate ways of understanding life, the universe and everything …

Ge Ki

11/25/2014 08:43:53 am

"We"? I'm the only one "reaching." I ask the questions, and you run from them.

We can address the compatibility of faith and science. But it's only fair to deal with questions in order. My question was: Is it OK to kill someone if a god tells you to do it? A serious question.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 08:51:53 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

(A) In my own faith tradition, I do not follow or adore or obey "a 'god'," but only "The LORD of The 'gods'," i.e., "Adonai Elohim," i.e., The LORD God …

(B) Why do you want to know … ??? Have you been hearing a voice or voices telling you to do certain things … ??? If so, you may consider talking with some professional person … Offering psychotherapy via the internet would be a violation of the code of ethics … Seriously, dude ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 08:59:16 am

But, regarding "killing" … It does happen … "self defense," or by accidental negligence … or for food … or "in a rit of fealous jage" …

Ge Ki

11/25/2014 12:21:49 pm

"Seriously dude" - how hip. I ask the question to find out how you teach your flock.

I am surprised that you do not worship a god. Does your flock know you're an atheist? If your god is not a god, what category of being is he?

Of course, the killing of children, babies and fetuses I referred to in Jericho was not self-defense. So let's make it real easy for you: Is it OK to kill an innocent child if the being you call God tells you to do it?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 12:30:34 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

If you are sincerely personally spiritually interested in "The God Question," I will advise you as I tell all such:

Seek out and become actively involved in a Living Community of Faith which is dedicated to worship of God and where faith, hope, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control and taught and cultivated and put into action …

If, OTOH, you are simply on a missionary journey for The New Atheism, well … you are at your destination already, and congratulations to you …

But if you wish to interrogate God directly, go to The Book of Job …

Ge Ki

11/25/2014 03:56:35 pm

“Reverend” I feel very sorry for your flock. You have demonstrated an utter inability to answer questions about your belief system.

First, “The God Question” is not the question I asked. “The God Question” is your attempt to change the subject. I already have an excellent answer to “The God Question.”

My question was about killing when your god commands it. I’ll put you down as “I don’t know” on that one, since I’ve asked it several times and you haven’t yet come up with an answer. If you can’t condemn the killing of an innocent child, then you are sorely in need of a better moral compass.

Instead of answering my question, you suggest that I just join your religion, where I’ll find “faith, hope, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control” being “taught and cultivated and put into action.” Of course, unbeknownst to you, these are all possible without religion or an imaginary sky god, along with a few more benefits: honesty, free inquiry, respect for nature, gender equality, and reason. Someday, if you ever honestly question your beliefs, you may experience these as well.

And finally you suggest that, “to interrogate God directly, go to the Book of Job.” I’ve been there. It has nothing good to offer. God kills Job’s loved ones to test his faith. Sounds like something Saddam Hussein would do. Small wonder then that your worship of this psycho prevents you from condemning the killing of innocent children. Yes, I feel very sorry for your flock.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 11:12:17 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

The vituperation and dripping condescension in your "questions" (which are nothing of the kind) indicates to me where you indeed are coming*from …

You don't like The Book of Job not least, because in it, God turns the tables on Job and asks HIM a few questions …

Again … Yes … The God Question" is THE question, whether any of The New Atheists know it or not …

Have a nice day ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 11:15:47 pm

But again … Seriously …

If you are hearing a voice or voices telling you to do certain things, you may benefit from professional help ...

Ge Ki

11/26/2014 11:11:35 am

“Reverend,” I don’t blame you for lashing out. I’d be pissed too, if I’d just discovered that my belief system condones the murder of innocent children. So much for joy, peace, and love.

I agree with you, it’s not a good idea to obey voices. But drunk with your religion-induced hypocrisy, you glorify the voices heard by Joshua. And Abraham. And Noah. And Moses. And Abram. And Job. Yes, your “holy” book is full of people obeying voices. Indeed, your entire belief system is based on them.

And since you’re cherry-picking the Job story, understand that there is one reason why this was voted into the Bible: It teaches religionists not to question what their higher-ups teach them, even when horrible things are inflicted on them by a God that supposedly loves them. So a preacher’s twisted logic goes like this: “Something good happened to you? That’s because God has blessed you. You should continue following me (and giving money). Something bad happened to you? It’s just God testing your faith. You should continue following me (and giving money).” Part of your job in the church is to spread this message to keep your flock from straying into the more rational belief systems.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/26/2014 12:46:20 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) …

LOL …
See … ??? Your "questions" are nothing of the kind … but are simply hostile snarky attacks upon persons and things you do not understand, which you therefore fear and hate …

Have a nice evening ...

Ge Ki

11/26/2014 03:59:32 pm

What's really funny is that you aren't obeying voices in your head. You're obeying voices in someone else's head from thousands of years ago. Can I get an LOL on that?

Regarding fear and hate: What is more fearing and hateful than teaching children that non-believers deserve to be tortured in a fiery hell? That's really sick, "Reverend." But again, it does serve your purpose of keeping people from defecting to the more rational belief systems.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/26/2014 05:57:11 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

Well, again …
"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing personal opinion … "
-- Proverbs 18:2

Have a nice evening ...

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 02:18:11 am

Now "Reverend," don't be so hard on yourself.

Robert Goodyear

11/25/2014 02:29:25 am

Gotsch,

You don't like debates because you are certain, at least in this case, that you will los, lose, lose.

I'm afraid your Altzheimer's is too far advanced for me to take any pleasure in winning.

You have answered NO questions posted in this blog, other than you acquaintance with Scott Wolter, an egotist with his own television show.

Goodbye

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 02:58:04 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) --

For whatever reasons of your own, that is your "take" and your claim … and so, your choice …

*whatever*

But again, as I have posted previously, Scott Wolter is my personal friend and professional colleague for 25+ years … I know him to be essentially honest and of good character …

In my opinion, the H2 "America Unearthed" TV shows have positive value in stimulating interest in and discussion of North American history and pre-history …

So ...

Robert Goodyear

11/25/2014 04:37:03 am

Ge Ki, Go get him, Pal.

He hasn't answered ANY questions, philosophical or otherwise, aside from pledging his allegiance to Wolter. He has never mentioned anywhere his position on evolution (that's science, not religion).

GOTSCHa (WHATEVER you are)

So far, it's two to one against you. But I'll be generous and fair and give you a month to catch up.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 04:48:56 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) --

As I already observed (above): genuine honest open serious conversation is rare … while the Spanish Inquisition is too common …

(Why would anyone be interested in "answering" your "questions" … ???)

Have a nice day ...

Robert Goodyear

11/25/2014 04:46:11 am

Your Holiness Gotsch (WHATEVER YOU CLAIM TO BE)

Being an all knowing cleric, you should have a LOCICAL answer for this.

Where did the people of "Nod" come from?
Were they Adam and Eve's children?
Can you say "Incest?"

Was Mary (The) Magdelene (or Mary Magdela) Jesus' wife, as a recently found papyrus document portrays her?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 05:05:20 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) …

Let me say it this way --

"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing personal opinion … " -- Proverbs 18:2

Robert Goodyear

11/25/2014 06:12:56 am

CROTCH (whatever you CLAIM to be)

Listen, MORON, I watch "America Unearthed," "In Search of Giants," all the "Sasquatch" shows ad even imbecile Giorgio Tsoukanos' "Ancient Aliens," on a regular basis, in order to UNDERSTAND their rationale, and also because I take pleasure in seeing how they all "Twist the Facts" to PROOVE their delusions.

The second part of your Proverbs 18:2 "fool" reference applies to Wolter

You, sir, are a fraud and a charlatan.

You refuse to answer any theological questions, other than those posed by your delusional "parishioners."

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/25/2014 08:44:45 am

LOL …

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) …

You may find that your personality settles down and becomes more amenable to genuine conversation if you broaden and deepen your sources of information …

And … Relax … Take a couple deep breaths … Have a shot of whatever it takes to calm down your fervid anxiety ...

But, no … I am indeed many things (in no respect perfect or all*seeing*all*knowing), but I am neither "fraud" nor "charlatan" …

Another thing I am not is susceptible to being bullied into submission or manipulated by chat room flaming (including juvenile name calling) ...

"Like a dog that returns to its vomit is a fool who reverts to his folly … "
-- Proverbs 26:11

Have a nice day … *whatever*

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/26/2014 12:52:34 pm

Okay … The resident New*Atheists have concluded their efforts to turn this blog spot into a missionary pulpit for their faith claims …

So back to the topic …

Having been a personal friend and professional colleague of Scott Wolter for nearly 30 years, I know him to be a person who is essentially honest and of good character …

Waaaaaay back in January of 2013, in this very forum he cleared up the innocent misunderstanding about the "honorary master's degree" ...

Ge Ki

11/26/2014 04:17:49 pm

"Reverend," as you are unable to condemn the slaughter of innocent children (it's true folks - see our discussion above), your vouching for Wolter as being "essentially honest" - already a pretty weak endorsement - is essentially worthless.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/26/2014 05:59:18 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) …

I tend to go with the general superiority of "empirical" knowledge, i.e., that which is based upon actual experience …

Have a nice evening ...

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 02:28:12 am

"Reverend" - Then how fortunate that your lack of a moral foundation is demonstrated by plenty of empirical evidence. Our discussion above recorded, on numerous occasions, your unwillingness to condemn the slaughter of innocent children. It is no wonder that you excuse Wolter's lie about his "degree" on account of he's your buddy.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 02:39:12 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

I have been a personal friend and professional colleague of Scott Wolter for 25+ years … I know him to be an essentially honest person, and of good character …

*shrug*

In this very forum, nearly two years ago, he cleared up the innocent misunderstanding about the honorary master's degree …

*whayever*

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 02:59:55 am

*whatever*

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 03:07:18 am

He sure did clear it up. He erased any doubt that he's either lying or nuts. "Well a few members of the faculty gave me a cup of coffee and told me it was an honorary degree." Good enough for you, anyway. But then, slaughtering innocent children is OK with you too.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 03:25:57 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

Your obsession with "Joshua and Jericho" is nothing short of bizarre …

But, okay … I'll play …

Since you have not denounced the shooting of Mike Brown by Officer Darren Wilson last summer, I assume that you totally approve … Since you have not criticized Mike Brown having tried to grab the officer's gun, I assume you approve … Since you have not denounced the looting and arson in Ferguson, I assume you approve … Since you have not denounced the affair between Clinton and Lewisnsky, I assume you approve … Since you have not denounced the impeachment and trial of President Clinton, I assume you approve … Since you have not denounced the Nazi death camps. I assume you approve …

Gosh, this is fun …

*sigh*

Really … Seriously … get some help dude (whoever you are) ...

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 05:22:46 am

"Reverend," what you need to understand is that I have not dictated to others what they should believe on any of those things you've listed. You, on the other hand, continually dictate to others that they should believe the Bible, which portrays the slaughter of innocent children in Jericho as a good thing. If I went around telling people that Nazi death camps were good, I would expect to be questioned about it. And if I could not answer those questions, I would change my mind to a more rational position that I could defend. Alas, you are unable to either defend your beliefs or change them, so you're kind of stuck. But you'll still preach your indefensible beliefs, because you're not really concerned with truth.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 05:41:56 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

I admit that I AM impressed … Now you claim to be able to read my mind, to be able audit my classes and sermons at a distance, such that YOU KNOW that I "dictate to others what to believe" about the Bible Stories, etc., etc. ..

WOW … !!!

So, then all*seeing*all*knowing one (whoever you are) -- please tell me:

(1) how MANY meatballs are there in the kettle of Swedish meatballs on my kitchen stove at this exact time … and (2) what COLOR is the apron I am wearing right now … ???

(and) why HAVEN'T you commented upon and/or clearly denounced the recent events in Ferguson, Missouri, when called upon to do so … ??? I can only conclude that you APPROVE ...

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 05:55:53 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

I confess that I just made your assigned task a little trickier by eating -- for taste-testing purposes only -- one (1) of the meatballs …

"God" only knows what horrible things you KNOW about "Swedish meatballs" … (So … feel free to pontificate on them as you wish, O Exalted Teacher …)

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 07:29:04 am

Wow, silly AND childish! Your flock hit the jackpot, "Reverend"!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 07:34:35 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

LOL …

I agree that your Spanish Inquisition stance, "I will question YOU as seems right to ME, but YOU may not question ME … !!! … is "silly" and "childish" …

(The Swedish meatballs were delicious, BTW, but I confess that I have lost count … There are leftovers, but I'm not sure how many … Maybe you can tell me … ???)

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 08:06:52 am

You think questions about slaughtering children in the Bible are silly.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 08:24:24 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

"Questions" that are nothing of the kind (i.e., open honest seeking of information and understanding), but are in fact thinly disguised attacks based upon ignorance … are ... yes, "silly" …

In my personal collection of aberrations, I have a small stack of "Jack Chick" tracts and comics, in which some smart*a** Fundamentalist kid stands up in the geology or evolutionary biology classroom and peppers the teacher with, "OH YEAH … ??? Well, what about [……..] … ??? … and what about [……..] … ???"

The kid's "questions" are invariably based upon scant and distorted inaccurate "knowledge" of the subject and serve no useful purpose except ironically to illustrate the lack of understanding and preparation of the person hurling the "questions" … Everything done by "Jack Chick" is WELL seen as a "cartoon" indeed ...

Your notions about the Bible Stories are like that … You apparently have read a couple of the "New Atheist" sacred scriptures (by such as Dawkins, Hitchins, Harris, et al.) … and so imagine yourself to be well educated in theology and philosophy and the Bible … But the very nature and slant of your "questions" shows otherwise …

Do your own homework; study up (no, you haven't) … and offer a REAL question which indicates that you are OPEN (no, you're not) and CURIOUS rather than simply hostile …

(My cooking apron is a lovely slate blue, BTW …)

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 09:33:10 am

"Reverend" - If I had gotten my beliefs from "Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, etc." I would be happy to give them credit. They are exceptionally bright and their beliefs well-reasoned. But I arrived at my own beliefs well before I ever heard of them. I actually figured things out myself. But thanks for the complement.

The difference between you and me is that I would welcome the questions from the fundamentalist kid. Go ahead, try me. Ask me about my atheistic beliefs.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 10:23:19 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

I am already thoroughly familiar with the "New Atheism," as per Dawkins, et al. … and the "old Atheism," as per Bert Russell, et al. ...

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 10:31:48 am

"Reverend" - Great! So what parts don't make sense to you?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 10:43:32 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

I am not alone in noticing that the claims and beliefs of the "New Atheists" bear a striking mirror image to those of the Fundamentalist-Creationists … i.e., they are narrow, rigid, and shallow … dogmatic … and often based upon (as I indicated already above) a distinctly "cartoonish" view of the opposite stance which is mockingly airily *dismissed* ...

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 11:08:22 am

"Reverend" - That's a bit unfocused. Got anything specific that doesn't make sense?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 02:17:21 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

The entire SYSTEM of the "New Atheism" is rigidly dogmatic …

Ge Ki

11/27/2014 03:36:27 pm

"Reverend" - Your saying it doesn't make it so. Can you illustrate your criticism with even a single example?

Ge Ki

11/28/2014 03:44:21 pm

Nothing? Well then, it's great to know that atheism makes perfect sense to you. To sum up then, you are unable to make sense of your beliefs, and you are unable to find anything unreasonable in mine. Welcome, fellow atheist!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/29/2014 02:57:47 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

No … No "atheist" here ...

I fully understand Fundamentalist-Creationism, too, and thus I CAN make sense of it while still vigorously REJECTING it ...

Ge Ki

11/29/2014 11:05:15 am

"Reverend"- Making sense of creationism is not the same as creationism making sense.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/29/2014 11:14:00 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

In order genuinely meaningfully to understand "Fundamentalism-Creationism," one must (temporarily) suspend one's dis-belief and ENTER that way of thinking …

Only in making that (temporary) move can one understand why it "makes sense" to the devotees …

One must be able to do that also in order to understand the "New Atheism" devotees' beliefs and claims …

I have done so … but remain a Catholic Christian ...

Ge Ki

11/29/2014 11:22:04 am

What we were discussing was our own opinions, not those of other people. What about atheism doesn't makes sense to you?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/29/2014 11:37:00 am

"Ge Ki" --

"Atheism" finally is (IMHO) inadequate … It turns out to be rigidly dogmatically "Rational-istic" …

I prefer a world-view which is inclusive, open-minded, ruled not exclusively by cold logic, but also including feeling and ambiguity ...

Ge Ki

11/29/2014 12:51:47 pm

Then you do not understand atheism. "Rigidly rationalistic" - by which I assume you mean "rigidly rational" - Yes, atheism is definitely that. Everything I believe has a rational basis. Anything wrong with that? "Dogmatic" - not at all. That is the opposite of rational. Dogma requires that something be accepted because others accept it. Dogma is belief based on faith in what someone else says. That is entirely what your religion is based upon. There are dogmas in the rational world as well, but these are regularly overturned. Those that remain, such as Newton's laws of motion, are solid. And even Newton's laws had to be modified when Einstein came along. So we have no sacred dogmas. You do. For example, you must believe in one and only one god. You must ignore the possibility that there are other gods out there that just haven't shown up in our tiny place in the universe. Even I acknowledge that possibility, miniscule as it is. But you are forbidden from doing so. Likewise, you are required to ignore the Bible's flaws for the sake of perpetuating the dogma of the Bible's divine perfection. Your religion is rife with dogma, and unlike mine, your dogmas are absolute and immutable, no matter how strong the evidence against them.

The other part of atheism that you don't understand is that feeling is very much a part of my life. You seem believe in a cartoonish stereotype requiring a rational person to be an emotionless Mr. Spock. In fact, the love I have for my family and friends, and for this planet and its creatures, is all the more intense because I believe in death after life. We need to make the most of this life.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/29/2014 01:05:12 pm

"Ge Ki" --

Oh, I *get* your understandings and ideas … Indeed, one of my best friends is an "atheist," and he is a very normal integrated person who has feelings as well as thoughts and ideas … Re: "God," he says, "I have no need of that hypothesis …" and I agree … In my own experience and understanding, "God" is NOT an "hypothesis," nor is my own Catholic faith dogmatic …

Some "atheists" are so by default, that is, for them "the 'God' Question" is simply irrelevant, and they 'do not 'believe in any 'god' …"

But, also … there are others ("the New Atheists," e.g.), who DO rigidly dogmatically assert that, "there is NO 'God' …" and dismissively deride ALL people of faith as "faith heads" (as per, Dawkins) ...

Ge Ki

11/29/2014 03:37:21 pm

1) Re: Your atheist friend, who "is a very normal integrated person who has feelings as well as thoughts and ideas": Then you seem to agree that atheism fulfills your preference for "a world-view which is inclusive, open-minded, ruled not exclusively by cold logic, but also including feeling and ambiguity."

2) Re: Your god as hypothesis: Since your god has not been proven, he has not advanced beyond the hypothesis stage. Your friend is right about that. It is this lack of proof that requires you to call your religious beliefs "faith."

3) Re: "nor is my Catholic faith dogmatic": That's just plain funny. And again, your saying it doesn't make it so. I gave you an example of just one of your dogmas. You have not pointed out any flaws in that example, so it stands.

4) Re: "Atheists by default": I'm not one of those atheists. For me, "the God question" is relevant, and I have an excellent answer to it. Of course, I agree with those atheists in not believing in "any god."

5) Re: Dawkins claims "there is NO god": Wrong. A simple search for "Dawkins" and "no god" turned up this chapter in one of his books: "Why there almost certainly is no God." So Dawkins does allow for the miniscule possibility that there is a god or many gods. Of course, his belief is that there is no god.

6) "Faith-heads": Yes, he uses that term. I don't. But have some perspective. "Faith-heads" is nowhere near as evil as teaching kids that non-believers are so bad that they deserve to be tortured in a fiery hell. Or teaching them that it's OK to slaughter innocent children.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/29/2014 03:46:09 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

LOL …

BACK to your usual bristling hostility and customary snotty condescension …

Okay … your choice … *whatever*

Ge Ki

11/30/2014 07:36:27 am

Again, one huge difference between you and me is the way we respond to rational arguments and questions. You view them as hostile and condescending, and you try to snuff them out so they don't make you think too hard about church dogma. I welcome them, because if there is a flaw in my beliefs, I want to know about it so I can change my beliefs accordingly. If my belief system required me to justify slaughtering innocent children, you can bet I would change it. But you can't change yours; dogma rules. Infanticide's great when a god commands it!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/30/2014 11:38:54 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

It is obvious to any reasonable person, on the face of it, that your "questions" ARE both hostile and condescending …

Your "questions" are nothing of the kind, that is, open sincere seeking of understanding, but you try to use your "questions" as weapons in an ideological battle between (what you view as) incompatible world-views …

Ge Ki

11/30/2014 12:36:21 pm

I said "arguments and questions."

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/30/2014 01:06:24 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

Yes …

Your "questions" are argumentative in character … Exactly so …

Look …
If you want to U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D the "Joshua" stories, you will have to do some serious -- OPEN MINDED -- study of the texts and traditions, the history of Israel, etc. …

It's like … Really … ???
Can one simple-mindedly meaningfully flatly critique the SLAUGHTER of innocent Japanese babies and children in Nagasaki and Hiroshima without first coming to grips with ALL of the history of WWII, including ALL of its history, origins, inherent cultural aspects, etc. … ???

Ge Ki

12/2/2014 02:11:29 pm

Sorry, I had a surge in other stuff that couldn't wait. I am glad that you have elected to engage on the Joshua question. instead of retreating behind responses like "LOL" or "*shrug*" or "whatever."

So how much do we need to study "texts and traditions, the history of Israel, etc." to realize that slaughtering the children, babies, and fetuses in Jericho (not to mention the men and women) could have easily been avoided and, since the kinder avenues were ignored, was insanely cruel? Your god, whom you claim is all-knowing, should have seen this coming since long before before creation. Could he not come up with a better plan for providing a homeland to Joshua's people? Maybe wall off an area to keep all people out until the day he's ready to give it to the Jews? Bingo - no need to kill anyone! This is a serious question. Why is it so difficult for such a celestial super-genius to come up with a plan that does not require the slaughter of innocents?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/2/2014 02:22:15 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

Thank you for your frank de facto concession (*shrug*) that you have NOT actually studied the texts, traditions, the Bronze Age archaeology, etc., re: the "Joshua" stories …

*shrug*

see, e.g.: Judges 1:27ff, etc. … or not … *whatever* ...

Ge Ki

12/2/2014 02:30:32 pm

Rather than attacking me, just answer the question.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/2/2014 02:51:50 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

I'm not "attacking" you …

I am simply noticing (not for the first time) that your "question" is: (1) nothing of the kind, but is a hostile interrogation, and, (2) thoroughly based upon your ignorance of the background materials, which you steadfastly reuse to study …

*shrug*

Ge Ki

12/2/2014 03:41:12 pm

This from a guy who thinks Judges 1:27ff somehow erases or justifies Joshua's slaughter of innocent children in Jericho.

You simply can't explain why your all-powerful god couldn't come up with a better way of giving the Jews a homeland. Surely he could out-think an uneducated simpleton like me?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/2/2014 03:57:53 pm

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

*shrug*

If you will ever get up off your lazy a** and do some solid homework … you will learn from the history of the texts and traditions, from Bronze Age archaeology, etc., that the comings and goings of the people of Israel in the land of Israel were almost always relatively peaceful …

But those FACTS don't fit the simple-minded neatness of your anti-religious bias ...

*whatever*

Ge Ki

12/2/2014 04:32:37 pm

Translation: You can't explain why you worship a god who ordered innocent children slaughtered in Jericho. And so soon after commanding "Thou shalt not kill." Reckon there should be a little asterisk there. Why don't you pretend that I'm an uneducated member of your flock, and help me to understand? I've actually studied the history of the texts and traditions, from Bronze Age archaeology, etc., quite a bit. Perhaps you can tell me what I'm missing?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/3/2014 12:09:48 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

Translation: your bristling irrational hostility to religion makes it difficult for you to admit your ignorance of the FACTS of the matter ...

Ge Ki

12/3/2014 05:41:55 am

"Reverend" - You view questions and arguments as hostile, and you respond quite badly to them. I, OTOH, welcome them. Go ahead - ask me anything about my beliefs. I'm not in fear of being challenged. You'll find that my beliefs are all consistent with each other. For example, I don't say that killing is bad one minute, and then turn around the next minute and say that it's glorious to kill innocent children. I suppose that kind of belief system would make me a bit prickly too, so I sympathize with you. Plus you have to get up in front of a crowd every Sunday and tell them to believe it. Uggh, that must be hell, misleading all those people. I sure couldn't do it.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/3/2014 06:51:00 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

Ummm …
Again … patiently …

(1) Your "questions are nothing of the kind, i.e., open sincere requests for information and conversation about something that interests you …

but rather …

(2) You are attempting to conduct an interrogation that comes directly and only from your own bristling hostility to religion … and it really really pisses you off that I don't just roll over meekly and play along … That is YOUR problem, not mine ...

But also … You (in your know*all*see*all god-like position) make bald assertions that demonstrate your ignorance …

E.g., one of the HALLMARKS of my classes, sermons, pastoral conversations, etc., has always been my openness to (genuine) questions … One my consistent habits in my parish ministry for many years is to set aside the traditional "homily" now and then and instead conduct an open "Ask a Question" time (the only rule being that I won't take questions about sports, politics, etc., but only about the Bible, the faith, the lessons for the day, the traditions, etc. …)

Look … You need to S-T-U-D-Y a bit before you can ask any REAL questions … When WAS Bronze Age "Jericho" demolished, by whom, when, and in what manner … ??? How DID the people of Israel IN FACT come onto possession of the land of Israel … ??? When … ???

Ge Ki

12/3/2014 07:27:27 am

1) I am genuinely interested in how you could believe as you do. Unfortunately, you view questions and argument as hostile. Thus, you have never really tested your beliefs and are afraid to do so here. I, OTOH, welcome your questions, no matter how hostile. Go ahead, ask me anything about my beliefs.
2) "Ask a Question" time: No doubt you conduct this in a room full of believers; no peer pressure there against asking tough questions, is there? Someone who expressed disbelief that your god could order Joshua to slaughter innocent children would surely be shunned from your community. So you haven't dealt with the tough questions. I, OTOH, welcome any questions about my beliefs, and I don't need to be in a room full of others who believe like me.

3) RE "When was Bronze Age Jericho demolished, when, how, who, and how did people come into possession of Israel, and when": I'm ignorant, so suppose you tell me? And be sure to explain how this information makes it OK for Joshua to slaughter innocent children.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/3/2014 09:12:43 am

"Ge Ki" (whoever you are) --

LOL …

Well, look … again …

Fascinating … Your stance-demand is again exactly the mirror image of that of the Fundamentalist-Creationists, and my response is the same: Get off your A** and STUDY, and then pose a reasonable question …

Look, it isn't my responsibility to give you a semester equivalent course in Biblical Studies 101 … no matter how many times you insist otherwise …

S-T-U-D-Y … (no, you haven't) ...

I'm reminded of the apocryphal tale of Rabbi Shammai, faced with a (supposed) "student" who demanded, "Teach me the entire 'Torah' while you are standing on one leg …" and Shammai chased him away with a stick …

S-T-U-D-Y ...

Ge Ki

12/3/2014 10:07:05 am

"Reverend" - How much studying did you have to do before you realized it was OK to slaughter innocent children if a god commanded you to do it?

Robert Goodyear

11/27/2014 09:13:50 am

Jesus Grotsch,

I HAVE asked you serious, unambiguous theological questions (who are the people of Nod?) and never got a single RESPONSIBLE answer.

I liken you to an RC Bishop who interrogated me prior to my marriage to one of his parishioners.

He asked me where I go to church. I told him I feel closer to God simply walking through a forest than in ANY church I've attended.

Thinking that he now had the upper hand, he said, " Well, I hope you meet him there some time,"

He had no answer for my reply.

I said, "I have. Have you?"

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 10:25:50 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) --

Why do you want to know about the people;e of "Nod" … ???

Robert Goodyear

11/27/2014 11:19:55 am

Gotsch (whatever you CLAIM to be ... certainly NOT a cleric)

ANYONE who has read and believes the Bible for WHAT IT SAYS, and not what some self-proclaimed "pastor" INTERPRETS it to say, would ask the same questiosn. Quote a passage in Genesis where it SAYS where the people of Nod came from.

Hmmmm. not going to answer a serious question, right?

You are WORSE than Wolter in not answering serious questions.

Do you even KNOW the answer to that one? If so, please enlighten me with a passage from Genesis.

By the way, other than your probable excuse that God passed the history of the world on to Moses in a dream or verbally, was Moses there for the creation to know all about it?

Robert Goodyear

12/3/2014 05:22:41 am

Rev. Gotsch,

Sir where are the FACTS in your arguement?
Blind belief in a god that MAN created carries no FACTS, whatsoever.

Since the various churches have modified their doctrines to accept the existence of many forms of life before man was "created from dust, based on FACTS, were the people of Nod created by extra dust leftover from the Garden of Eden?

I know, I know. A Day during the Creation could have actually been a million years.

I am NOT being condescending or argumentative when I ask where the people of Nod came from.

It is a serious question, for which I have never received an answer of any kind from a cleric or anyone who actually studies the Bible..

Get up some nerve and answer the question in the best way you know how, and please no condescending comments about how we are all ignorant and after you, and do not deserve an answer.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 10:39:00 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) …

Again …

*sigh*

Really … ??? You think that your juvenile name games make you look smart and thoughtful and wise … ???

Robert Goodyear

11/27/2014 12:56:15 pm

"Rev." Gotsch,

Most of us have been taught that we are all ancestors of Adam and Eve. If this is correct, who were the people that lived in the land of Nod? Adam and Eve first had Cain and then Abel. Cain slew Abel, and was driven from the land of Eden. He went east to the land of Nod and took a wife. Cain was in Nod, before Eve conceived and bore Seth. Genesis 4:25 "And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth; For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew." Seth was the third child born. He was to replace Abel, who is now dead by his brother's hand. Who, then, are the people of Nod and how did they get there? On day six of creation, God created man: Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness....." {27} "So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Notice that God created male and female. By His spoken word, He created male and female. Where did He place them? Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth..." To replenish something means that there was something there before. They were told to repopulate the earth. Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth..." They were given dominion over the entire earth. In creation week, God created man and woman, placed them on earth, and told them to repopulate the entire earth. Genesis 2:1 "Thus, the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." Everything that God created on the first six days was considered 'all the host of them'. Now, let's read another scripture that explains this further: Psalm 33:6 "By the word of the Lord were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth." The creation of the heavens and earth and all that is upon the earth was by God's Word! On the seventh day, He rested. Now, comes the very interesting part: Genesis 2:7 "And the Lord formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul." Notice that this man was formed out of dirt. He was molded into the image of God, like a potter molds a vase. Notice also, that only one man was formed here. In Genesis 1:27, both male and female were created, (not formed), by the spoken Word. Mankind is made in the image of God and has some characteristics in common with our Creator. Whenever mankind lays his hands upon anything it is changed. We impart a part of ourselves into whatever we touch. We leave fingerprints, we shed cells, sometimes we even leave some of our DNA on objects that we touch. If you enter a cave where there is living rock, the tour guide will warn you not to touch the living rock, to just enjoy the beautiful colors with your eyes. If you touch the beautiful rock, it will cease to be living rock, I'm not sure if it dies or not, but the beautiful colors will disappear and it will become an ugly chunk of plain rock. In this case the human touch is harmful. Mankind can also take clay and make beautiful objects, then manipulate them by firing them in a kiln and painting them, and soon a beautiful art piece emerges. The only way to avoid our changing everything that we touch is by wearing sterile gloves, draping ourselves with sterile gowns, and even wearing a mask over our mouth. When God spoke mankind into existence, He did not physically touch the bodies. However, when God picked up dust and formed mankind in His hand, I'm sure the Creator imparted fingerprints, and cells, maybe even DNA into the dust that He manipulated to form Adam. Have you ever tried to do anything with dust? To form something out of it you would need water, to make the dust into clay. Is it possible that God spat on the dust and made clay? We don't know, the Bible doesn't say. The Bible does say that Jesus spat into the dust and used the clay to heal blinded eyes. Then, there is the breath of life that God breathed into Adam. Humans are affected by inhaled substances, some people are ill and inhale medication to improve their condition. It can be harmful to inhale some substances, like firemen at a fire need to wear protection from the toxic smoke; in some situations law enforcement or military use a gas that renders people unconscious or even dead. Oxygen therapy can help many people and aromatherapy is beginning to have more
followers. When substances are breathed in they are picked up by the blood and transported throughout the body, whether these substances are good or bad the blood distributes them to all cells. So, air that enters the body creates changes within that body, for good or bad depending upon the source of the air that is breathed in. Think about it, if God breathed into a clay man, that already had touches of God within the cells, and the blood picked up that breath and carried it throughout the body

Robert Goodyear

11/27/2014 01:05:01 pm

whether these substances are good or bad the blood distributes them to all cells. So, air that enters the body creates changes within that body, for good or bad depending upon the source of the air that is breathed in. Think about it, if God breathed into a clay man, that already had touches of God within the cells, and the blood picked up that breath and carried it throughout the body, how could it be the same as a body that was never touched or breathed into by God? Obviously, there has to be differences between the man that was spoken into existence and the formed man, the formed man simply has more particles in him that came from God, so he would be more like God. Genesis 2:8 "And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed." This formed man was not placed on earth to subdue it. He was placed in a special garden planted by God, Himself. Genesis 2:15 "And the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it." The purpose of this man was to keep and dress this special garden that God planted. In Genesis 1, man and woman was to replenish the entire earth. This man was to keep a garden.
Genesis 2:23 "And Adam said, This is now bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man." The woman created in the garden was from the flesh of man. The woman in Genesis 1 was created at the same time as man by God's spoken Word. The Garden of Eden was a special place unto God. The man in the Garden of Eden was a special man because God walked in the Garden of Eden to have fellowship with this man. If you trace the generations backward from Jesus, it goes all the way to Seth and unto Adam. Adam, who was formed from the dust by God, Himself, was formed to be special to God, to have fellowship with God. This Adam was the beginning of God's Chosen People (Israel)! Adam was the first Israelite. Adam's bloodline goes to Abraham and on to Jesus. Adam has special blood, for sure! The man and woman of Genesis 1 were the common couple who formed the Gentile nations.

OK, Reverend, what is your take?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 02:21:14 pm

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) --

Ummmm … For the most part, only diehard Fundamentalists and/or diehard skeptics/scoffers take the Primordial History Stories of Genesis 1 - 11 literally …

Robert Goodyear

11/27/2014 01:07:08 pm

PARDON ME. We are all DESCENDANTS of Adam and Eve.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/27/2014 02:30:54 pm

But … again …

BACK to the topic at hand …

In my associations with Scott Wolter, for now nearly 30 years, as his personal friend and also as a professional colleague, I have come to know him as a person who is basically honest and of good character ...

Robert Goodyear

11/27/2014 03:06:03 pm

"Rev." Gotsch,

So YOU are one of those who does not take the Bible for what it SAYS, but rather YOUR interpretation of it.

You cling to YOUR subject that Wolter is BASICALLY honest and of good character (I noticed the QUALIFIER).

You don't answer theological questions that, IN YOUR EYES, are put forward by the uneducated, atheistic, and (AS I AM) Needing to understand.

Don't bother replying. ... although I'm sure you will, just to "get my goat."

I say that BASICALLY you are an IGNORANT, CHAR:LATAN. SELF- AGRANDIZING EXCUSE for a clergyman.

GO TO HELL (not that I think you won't)

DONE.
FINITO.
AMEN

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/28/2014 11:03:57 am

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) --

LOL …
God Bless(+) … (as per Romans 12:14) …

Have a nice evening ...

Robert Goodyear

11/28/2014 11:54:58 am

CROTCH BREATH ... and you DO know what that means.

Go shove your fists back up Wolter's ass, where they normally are.

Then lick them clean and die painfully of sepsis..

I did leave one think out of my last post.

FUCK YOU !

By the way, you will NEVER have the last word, asswipe.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/28/2014 12:39:03 pm

"Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are) --

Demon … What is your name … ???

Robert Goodyear

11/28/2014 01:09:05 pm

Legion

Robert Goodyear

11/28/2014 12:57:20 pm

My name is Robert Goodyear.
Why do you want to know?

Look me up ... assuming you know how to use Google.

I misspoke in an earlier post. I said there were about 50 of us out here. The number is closer to 109.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/28/2014 01:26:32 pm

"Legion"… I command you in The Name of the Lord Jesus of Nazareth -- LEAVE him … !!!

Robert Goodyear

11/28/2014 01:45:27 pm

Get thee behind me, GOTSCH.

Robert Goodyear

11/28/2014 01:51:03 pm

If you think you are up to a battle of scriptures, BRING IT ON, ASSHOLE.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/28/2014 02:09:09 pm

LOL …

" … aromatherapy is beginning to have many followers … "
-- The Good News According to "Robert Goodyear" (whoever he is) ...

Robert Goodyear

11/28/2014 02:21:55 pm

The stench of your hypocrisy shall follow you all the days of your life, and you shall dwell in the depths of hell forever and ever.

AMEN

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/28/2014 02:39:39 pm

A spiritual-Bibllcal note for interested "lurkers" …

A general -- CENTRAL -- rule in spiritual conflict is NEVER to allow one's self to be drawn into anything like a conversation with a "demon"(see the Greek term, "daimon") …

It's pointless … See … A "daimon" is opposed to anything truly Spiritual, and serves only the god of the self …

Note that any "daimon" just goes NUTS over a Blessing with the Sign of The Cross, "In the Name of The Father and of The Son(+) and of The Holy Spirit … Amen" A "daimon" can't RECEIVE a Blessing(+) ...

A "daimon" seeks its own power and authority, and so cannot and will not acknowledge that JESUS is Lord … So a "daimon" (including the prince of the demons, "the Satan," i.e., in Hebrew, "the Accuser" or "the Adversary") will try to use even Holy Scripture to tempt or confuse or lure one of the children of The Light …

So ...

Robert Goodyear

11/28/2014 02:59:21 pm

Is that the best you can come at me with?

Seems to me you're speaking about YOURSELF.

Again, you will NEVER get the last word in the end.

But even daimons have to sleep.

Nighty Night.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/28/2014 03:05:46 pm

"Those who say, "I love God,' and hate their brothers and sisters, are liars; for those who do not love a brother or sister whom they have seen, cannot love God whom they have not seen … "
-- The Apostle John, First Letter 4:20

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/29/2014 03:01:58 am

So …

Such are the kind of people who want to *trash* Scott Wolter's character …

Robert Goodyear

11/29/2014 03:13:00 am

I shall continue to "trash" Wolter, as I will continue to trash your holiness.

Roman Catholics bow down to the Pope, and kiss his holy ring.

What is the equivalent in the Lutheran church? And do you bow down and kiss his unholy ass?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/29/2014 03:21:12 am

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls …

Interesting, isn't it … ???

*shrug*

Robert Goodyear

11/29/2014 04:25:59 am

Pister Gotsch,

If you can remember that far back, do you recall my story about walking through a forest?

I HAVE met Him ... but apparently you'd rather not talk about it.

Robert Goodyear

11/29/2014 03:29:24 am

Very, Especially when you refuse to answer the basic questions.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/29/2014 04:54:16 am

One wonders …

How many internet posts indicate a need to refill a prescription ...

Robert Goodyear

11/29/2014 07:16:59 am

Poster Gotsch,

You have far exceeded the required amount ... You have posted MUCH more than I have.

Go get your 5 daily Xanax.
And maybe a Viagra or 2.

Robert Goodyear

12/2/2014 06:57:09 am

Gotsch,

It seems you must have had your Xanax prescription refilled, and that you are now taking them.

I'm still confused about you calling yourself "catholic".

Martin Luther SEPARATED HIMSELF AND HIS CONGREGATION from the Catholic Church.

Once again, I am not conducting an "inquisition".

I asked a simple question about the people of Nod.
Where did they come from.

If you choose not to answer, then my only conclusion would be that the Seminary never bothered with such trivial things.

Was Mary Magdalene (Mary Magdele) a prostitute, or do you take the scriptures out of context? Mary Magdela is first named well after the reference to the prostitute.

If one of your parishioners would ask the same questions, would you tell them your interpretation of the answers?

Rev. Phil Gotsch

11/29/2014 07:35:11 am

One last word directly to "Robert Goodyear" (whoever you are): (even though this will not please your several "daimons") …

I do hope that some day you will be able to receive Peace and Light … faith, hope and love (+) ...

Robert Goodyear

11/29/2014 12:28:33 pm

I SHALL RETURN ... in my own time.

As I said, you will NEVER get the last word.

Robert Goodyear

11/30/2014 02:38:39 am

How big is a:legion?" How many of your enemies are In me?

In Roman timed a Legion could contain as many as 8000 troops and auxiliaries.

Who gave YOU the power to command my legion to leave me?

None have deserted me. I am still here, with the same perspective on "the church" and it (in pastors, priests, bishops, cardinals (and the personal voice of god's mind), the pope?

One more word directly to Rev. Phil Gotsch (whatever you claim to be); ....

I do hope that some day you will abandon your faith in a god created by MAN.

Did your sermon today contain references to me and/or Legion?

I'm sure you've been awake all night putting your misguided sermon together about that.

'Til next time

Buh bye

H2 Television Network

12/3/2014 06:26:33 am

I find it sad that you chose to belittle people who ask perfectly valid questions.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/3/2014 07:29:37 am

"H2 Television Network" --

You're kidding, right … ???

H2 Television Network

12/3/2014 10:01:21 am

Mr. Wolters program on our Network is STRICTLY for entertainment purposes. Mr. Wolter approached us regarding a series HE proposed regarding the possibility of finding ancient remains in America. He offered no proof at that time that the government or anyone else was "hiding" the supposed artifacts.

Perhaps you should read the disclaimers.

Robert Goodyear

11/30/2014 04:27:31 pm

Awwwwww... Pastor.

No more commands?

Did you finally realize that you hold NOTHING over me?

KDDid

12/1/2014 01:09:07 pm

who cares...great show.

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/2/2014 09:27:00 am

"KDDid" (I love your moniker) …

Yes … Before this interesting series came along, I was completely unaware of most of the artifacts examined and sites visited ...

Robert Goodyear

12/3/2014 01:43:26 am

Oh ! Now I see how it's supposed to work.

First you must praise his holiness Gotsch, then after that you will receive an answer.

So ....

Reverend Phil Gotsch is the holiest, most devoted to God, person I've ever met online. He is basically honest and forthcoming, and kind to every living soul.

Where di the people of Nod come from?

PS It's not nice to attempt to disguise your vulgar language by adding asterisks (*) . It kind of takes away your believability.

Robert Goodyear

12/3/2014 10:31:00 am

Ge Ki,

How about a little variance in your question?

The slaughtering of children is getting really old.

Keep it so simple that even an undereducated cleric should be able to give a reasonable answer.

That is, if he can come up with one.

Ge Ki

12/3/2014 04:11:30 pm

Robert - I'll leave that to you. There is no more black-and-white issue than slaughtering children, and I'm staying with it.

Robert Goodyear

12/4/2014 03:16:15 am

Ge Ki

That's your prerogative.

?Rev. Gotsch has made it perfectly clear that he will not answer that question.

It's a moronic question in the first place.

Ask another question that puzzles you. He may take you more seriously.

Robert Goodyear

12/8/2014 09:16:05 am

Geekie (whatever you THINK you are)

Douchebag, there are also many shades of grey (50, I think).

Was it any more vicious and cruel than the Crucifixion of Jesus.

Of course, since you so proudly claim to be an atheist, you'll probably say that Jesus was only a man, and must have deserved it.

Black and whit, MY ASS.

Robert Goodyear

12/9/2014 07:26:32 am

logicalGEEK,

Are you just ignoring a superior intelligence, or do you have no answers?

Ge Ki

12/4/2014 03:53:01 am

Robert - If you think you can do better at getting the "Reverend" to explain his bizarre beliefs, go right ahead. Doesn't look like you've had much success so far, so you'll forgive me if I don't take your advice. And FYI, I have raised many other issues in the many exchanges with the "Reverend" that I've had over the course of the past year or so, which you can find simply by doing a search for my name.

Robert Goodyear

12/4/2014 07:54:23 am

Ge Ki,

I sincerely apologize for the insinuation that you have a one celled mind.

You are obliviously less educated than either Wolter or Gotsch.

I am NOT an Atheist as you so proudly claim to be.

I am simply looking for answers to ambiguous factoids in the Bible.

I know his holiness, Rev. Gotsch will never answer them.

You should realize that he will never answer your "slaughter" question. But not because he can't, but rather that the question is coming from a bigot.

See you in hell...

Robert Goodyear

12/4/2014 08:29:15 am

Ge Ki,

PS 've tried looking you (Ge Ki) up on Google, but evidently, you don't exist.

Try looking me up. There are only about 109 of us listed on the web.

I looked the Rev. Gotsch up in less that 3 minutes. The info was quite telling.

Robert Goodyear

12/13/2014 06:35:04 am

logicalGEEK,

Are you just ignoring a superior intelligence, or do you have no answers?

Justin Little

12/6/2014 09:21:02 pm

Jason your beginning of this is completely upsurd. You probably have never been in the field or left your computer chair and that must ruffle your tail feathers that someone has been given a opportunity like Mr. Wolter has been given and proven he's knowledgeable. Quit crying Jason you'll be ok.

Robert Goodyear

12/7/2014 02:56:45 am

Justin,

How far did you get in school? Judging by your use (mis-use) of the English Language, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, and say 4th grade.

"Don't let trolls keep you from finding the history we've been lies to about all the years."

LIES? Methinks you have lice for brains.

When you get your GED, write again. I CAN'T WAIT.

"You have an amazing look on things and also (proven facts)" " that even the moderator of this site could even began to fathom,"
Firstly, you use grasp of English Grammar is horrendous.
He has PROVEN NOTHING. He SPECULATES. Look that word up, since I'm certain that you have no idea what it means.

justin

12/8/2014 05:54:23 am

I appreciate whoever this Robert kept my comments hidden I must of hit a soft spot for him or a point he knows is true but would make him look stupid. Thanks Robert douche!!!!

Robert Goodyear

12/8/2014 06:43:12 am

Damn right you hit on a sift spot I know is true.

You're an illiterate bigot with his head up his ass.

Don't bother replying. You will only emphasize my points.

Please go back to get you GED.

justin

12/8/2014 07:05:08 am

Robert I want to greatly apologize that was not meant towards you what so ever my hands and mind type so fast because of this blogger stupid comments about Scott. That was directed towards the Jason idiot that started this site. Once again I truly apologize. Jason I hope you read this.

Sue-Ann Crone link

12/13/2014 01:57:21 pm

Wow you all are real haters and jealous of Scott's success. What has any of your achieved lately lol? When people talk about you whether good or bad...it is GREAT Publicity!

Fred L. Riggleman

12/13/2014 02:25:34 pm

To those attacking Scott. Why would you be so skeptical of this man when the man currently in the White House can't produce an official birth certificate, an records of a law degree, no friends who knew him in school, no birth certificates for his children, any pictures of he and his wife earlier in life. If there is anyone perpetrating a hoax on America it is the man in the White House. I have so little respect for him I won't speak his name. He didn't fool me when he ran for the office the first time nor the second. Put all your energy it work and find out how this illegal alien got into this country and with whose help. He didn't do it on his own.

Robert Goodyear

12/14/2014 02:51:41 am

Wrigleman,

Obama DID produce his official birth Certificate. His birth was also recorded in a Hawaiian newspaper, as well. ""an" records of a law degree?" Please produce official records of your GED. He had MANY friends In college. He was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. And there are ABUNDANT photos of Michelle and Barak together in their younger years.

Just another Radical Republican't with no respectable agenda.

Try going back to school, and this time PAY ATTENTION.

Robert Goodyear

12/14/2014 02:58:03 am

Wigglewoman,

How do you explain his win for a second term, if he was the Anti-Christ you make him out to be?

More people voted for HIM than ANY Republican't candidate.

Robert Goodyear

12/16/2014 01:18:39 pm

As I have said before, I took a geology course in my second year of Community College ... therefore, I am a Geologist.

Harold

1/10/2015 08:10:29 pm

Mr. Goodyear,
First, l have to say that I find your brand of scorn hilarious. Reading the back and forth between you and the reverend has been far more entertaining than the original topic. In fact, you sound a lot like myself when I was a little younger.
Allow me to make a few points to all concerned. One, as a holder of an advanced degree, I do not feel I am superior to those who do not possess one. However, it does speak to the tenacity of the mind and the passion for one's chosen field of endeavor when one has worked hard for many years and borrowed reams of money to acquire that degree. For these base reasons, I feel that such degrees should command at least a modicum of respect.
Albert Einstein famously quoted: "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." He also stated that "education is not the learning of facts, but the training of the mind to think."
In relation to Scott Wolter, I do think he takes his conjecture too far but I don't think it's dangerous because anyone who is relatively intelligent can see through it, yet those who are not may be stimulated by the subject matter and might just educate themselves further and that is always a positive.
I certainly appreciate the scientific method, without it, charlatans may well rule the world. However, adhering to the mainstream with extreme rigidity is unhealthy. I would cite the Indonesian megalithic ruins of Gunung Padang. Absolutely fascinating! Apparently, this site is layered and gets progressively more ancient as they dig further. It has the chance to be even older than Gobekli Tepe and that has me very excited. I am very interested in our ancient history or anything older than the Egyptians. I find this mysterious period to be endlessly enticing and I suspect that human civilization is far older than we know. Having said that, I do not trust carbon dating methods much anymore. I have read too many studies on carbon/radiation fluctuations relating to deterioration over time and the margin for error is just too high. Even sunspots can affect carbon dating and that is concerning.
Gornaya Shoria in the mountains of Russia is promising as well. Whether it is natural or man made, it is gorgeous and I hope to see it before I pass.
Btw, I am an independent, politically speaking and I do not espouse to conspiracy much. But I have to admit, there are some very puzzling aspects of Barry's past. If he truly was the editor of the Harvard law review then where are his publications? I know that when I was in law school back in the dark ages, one must be published and I have researched his and can find none as have many others. I don't dispute his birth cert. but there are some spurious details of his life that don't quite add up.
Anyway, thanks for all of the lively discussions on this site, I have found them very entertaining!
Happy New Year to all!

P.S. I too wondered about the land of Nod in Genesis and the details are sketchy to say the least but the cuneiform texts specifically name five cities pre deluge or antediluvian.
Eridu -- the city to which "sovereignty descended from heaven"
Badgurgurru -- "fortress of workers in bronze"
Larak
Sippar
Shuruppak

As far as I have researched, these cities all existed to the east of eden and therefore must have made up "Nod." Interesting to note that Nod is Hebrew for "city" or "fortification." Later, Cain named his first city Enok after his son, Enoch, who of course was the grandfather of Noah or Utnapishtim in cuneiform.
So, I guess that brings us to how Cain found another women outside Eden if there weren't any apart from his own mother? I wish I knew brother. It is either a conundrum that will remain unsolvable or we have to just accept the various contradictions that exist in early scripture. My own opinion is that it was so far removed from the writers of the Pentateuch that they borrowed some here and there and pieced it together according to their beliefs.
I would also add that there must have been widespread civilization before the flood and I suspect it was VERY different from what we know. It is this period of history that intrigues me the most and I can only hope that we can find more ancient sites to explore and possibly provide some answers. But as we already know, it will only prompt a million new questions for us to ponder.

riggleman cant win

1/5/2015 10:49:13 am

way to fall for the extreme far right propaganda buddy, only lunatics believe that crap you are pushing out, and it must be hard to do, or maybe easy if you've been force fed lies up your hershey squirter for years, yeeeehaww hillbilly

Jimmy

12/13/2014 03:03:08 pm

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SteveG

12/13/2014 10:19:11 pm

Jason I think the way your going on about Scott says more about you as a person than it does anything else. So sad!

Rev. Phil Gotsch

12/15/2014 01:15:20 pm

(Maybe its something that happens as a result of reading way too much H. P. Lovecraft … ??? *shudder* )

Robert Goodyear

12/16/2014 01:23:09 am

(Maybe IT'S something that happens as a result of reading too much Divinity crap ... ??? *barf*)

Robert Goodyear

12/16/2014 01:25:09 pm

Gotsch,

My claim to be a college educated Geologist is just as valid as your claim to be able to speak to your god and cast out "my" "Daimons."

And yes, I have walked through the forest and met and talked with Jesus.
You had no comment when I mentioned it earlier. My question now is, HAVE YOU?

Revereend Doctor Dan

12/20/2014 01:04:21 pm

Just stop talking to this guy! Your wasting too much space and time talking to a worm. Move on.

Bad Reverend

12/20/2014 01:01:45 pm

After reading your post I think you should have your scrotum removed and shoved down your throat. Then your head removed and shoved up your ass. Then the remnants dumped in the desert.
Your quite deserving but as far as value your about as relevant as a pimple on the ass of sea slug in an ocean on a planet on the other side of the universe that gets wiped out by an exploding sun. You my friend will not be remembered! In fact I doubt if you own family claims you. IF THEY DO IT'S WITH A VERY BITTER TAST IN THIER MOUTHS.
Pasters and priests, ministers and laymen are only helping those who want it and don't threaten you at all. Since you choose to attack them you are the sick one and need professional help and strong medication. I think you could be a threat to yourself and others and need to be contained or eliminated from the streets of society.

Robert Goodyear

12/21/2014 05:48:42 am

Hey Mr. Grammar School drop-out Bad Reverend,

What is a "paster?"

His mom dropped out of school because she was pregnant, but he paster.

Harold

1/10/2015 08:41:14 pm

Mr. Goodyear,
After some additional research I give you what I consider to be the best explanation concerning the land of Nod. I saved it years ago and was lucky enough to find it. It was written by an apologetic around 2004.

After Cain killed Abel and was declared a “fugitive and vagabond” by God (Genesis 4:12), the Bible says that he “went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod” (4:16). It was in this land that “Cain knew his wife” (4:17), and it was here that his son, Enoch, was born.

When a person reads about Nod in Genesis 4, he often pictures a land where a large group of people already were dwelling by the time Cain arrived. Because the Bible gives this land a name (“Nod”), many assume it was called such before Cain went there. Furthermore, many believe that it was in this land that Cain found his wife. Based upon these assumptions, some even claim that God must have specially created other humans besides Adam and Eve, otherwise there would not have been a land of Nod, nor would Cain have been able to find a wife there. Are these assumptions and conclusions correct? What can be said about these matters?

It is very likely that when Moses wrote the name “Nod” (Genesis 4:16), he was using a figure of speech called “prolepsis” (the assignment of something, such as an event or name, to a time that precedes it). People often use prolepsis for the sake of convenience, so that the reader or audience can better understand what is being communicated. For example, I might say, “My wife and I dated two years before we got married,” when actually she was not my wife when we were dating, but a very dear friend. We may see a special on television about when President George W. Bush was a boy, but the fact is, George W. Bush was not President of the United States when he was a child. From time to time, even the Bible uses this kind of language. In John 11, the Bible speaks of a woman named Mary who “anointed the Lord with ointment” (11:1-2), yet this anointing actually did not occur for about three months. John merely spoke about it as having already happened because when he wrote his gospel account this event was generally known. Another example of prolepsis is found in Genesis 13:3 where we read that Abraham “went on his journey from the South as far as Bethel.” This area actually did not wear the name Bethel until years later when Jacob gave it that name (Genesis 28:19). However, when Moses wrote of this name hundreds of years later, he was free to use it even when writing about a time before the name actually was given.

When Moses used the name Nod in Genesis 4, the reader must understand the land probably was not given that name until sometime after Cain moved there. This is consistent with the meaning of the name Nod (“wandering”), which in all probability was given because God told Cain he was to be a wanderer upon the Earth (Genesis 4:12). Thus, the land of Nod almost certainly was not an area filled with people whom Cain would eventually befriend. It would become that in time; nevertheless, it probably was not such a place upon his arrival.

But, someone might ask, did Cain not find his wife in the land of Nod? Actually, the Bible never tells us that Cain’s wife came from Nod. The text simply says that Cain “dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch” (Genesis 4:16-17).

To conclude that God specially created others besides Adam and Eve because “there was a large group of people living in Nod when Cain arrived” and “from this group Cain got his wife” is faulty reasoning and sheer speculation. Scripture does not teach the above premises, nor does it ever hint that God specially created others than Adam and Eve. In fact, the Bible teaches the very opposite when it explicitly states that Adam was the first man (1 Corinthians 15:45) and that Eve would be the mother of all living (Genesis 3:20, emp. added). It seems clear that there could have been no other people on the Earth contemporaneous with them (except, of course, their own children). Even though some allege that God specially created other people in addition to Adam and Eve during the creation week, such cannot be defended logically in light of what Scripture teaches.

Chris

12/26/2014 06:38:53 pm

To ALL of you Americans who feel its your duty to attack Scott Wolter, why dont you request the "Pedophile House" to declare war on him and blow up his house. Your a bunch of pathetic pricks, no wonder America is hated, if you want to know why we, the people of the world hate you, read all the comments of this pathetic website.

You are ALL a bunch of morons, with any luck Russia, China or another country drops a nuke on you bastards, the people of the world are sick and tired of your crap, and funny enough, even Americans hate their own, which goes to show how pathetic you lot are.

I am not a violent person, actually far from it, but after reading these comments, and other comments you pricks write on other websites, I would love to beat some sense into you with a baseball bat.

Do you ask yourselves why people want to attack America, do you ask yourselves why do people want to kill Americans, take a look at the comments on this page, its written in black and white.

Jason, your the first person I would kick the crap out of, your an asshole.

Only Me

12/30/2014 07:11:16 am

Hoo boy, look out guys, we got a badass here!

You should go write a 200 page manifesto of complaints about America and send it to the President. Maybe also make a five hour YouTube video listing everything wrong with America that is ruining your life. Don't forget to tweet a link and also include one on your Facebook page so you will get a billion likes.

Robert Goodyear

12/30/2014 02:37:30 pm

I think Chris is pissed because his mother dropped a " t " from his first name. Everyone here knows that he thinks he's Christ.
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I am not a violent person, but I'd personally pull the trigger on him.

And the moron goes on ....

God

12/30/2014 02:39:28 pm

Satan

12/30/2014 02:42:46 pm

marcus AIR-ALIAS

1/5/2015 10:46:12 am

hey chris, sorry here in america, we care about what is broadcast to our children on a network named the history channel. we care that people are being taught the wrong things, we care that this guy is bogus. I guess in your country its ok to talk out your ass like scott wolter does. That attitude of yours and belief that it's ok to teach false things is probably why your country sucks, and why you'll be led astray by a dctator one day. BUT I MEAN IT DOESNT MATTER DOES IT HUH CHRIS, INFORMATION HAS NO POWER RIGHT CHRIS, I MEAN WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN TEACHING WRONG FACTS AND BELIEFS ABOUT ANYTHING, hmmmmmmmm hitler ring a bell, damn i thought most americans were stupid, but you chris, arent even smart enough to contend with the dumbest americans.

Entertained

1/4/2015 01:59:40 am

Wow. I watched "Unearthed" last night for the first time. I found it well done and quite entertaining. This blog, not so much.

It's sad to see a man so wrought with jealousy about someone else's success that they try to discredit him. That's a typical libtard tactic. Don't even try to refute the facts that are presented, immediately go into personal attack mode. A degree, honorary or earned does not make one intelligent, nor prove that they know what they are talking about.

Get over it Jason, you didn't get your show and Scott Wolter did. Come up with your own idea for a show and maybe I'll watch it too.

1/4/2015 08:02:10 am

Intertwined

Your quote applies to you, dipwad.

" A degree, honorary or earned does not make one intelligent, nor prove that they know what they are talking about. "

1/4/2015 10:54:03 am

Hey Chris, I don't know whether any "Pedophile House" would attack Scott Wolter. Unless Frank Joseph gets really mad at Scott Wolter for using his child murder fantasies on America Unearthed without giving Joseph any credit...

Alex Mack

1/6/2015 09:15:39 am

Scott,

I saw your America Unearthed program on the French explorers la Verendrye and du Lhut. I want to bring to your attention to the Radisson stone which was found in Grand Portage, MN. The stone was destroyed in the fire that destroyed the great hall in 1969 but there are pictures of it which I am working to track down. Obviously it's impossible to prove the authenticity of it based on a photograph but interesting nonetheless in the context of your theory that these stones were land claims. I'm rather skeptical of the "Duluth" stone since the carving on it "Duluth" represents the Anglicized version of the explorers name. I rather doubt that he would spell his name that way since in the historical record the spelling is du Lhut.

Robert Goodyear

1/6/2015 12:25:58 pm

Alex,

Thank you for yet another call-out of Wolter's "knowledge."

He's a hoax with a TV show on the oh-so-well respected History Channel (H2).

He has proven nothing but his ignorance, and his attempts to change history.

The problem is, there are millions of morons out there who take the History Channel and H2 as gospel.

Please watch The Smithsonian Channel and The National Geographic Chanel (NatGeo) if you want proven facts.

Knower of all thngs

1/8/2015 01:57:08 am

Anyone who believes Scott Wolter, Giorgio Tsoukals, Bobo or anyone else at H2, DESCENDED from a worm.

asgunnell

1/10/2015 11:00:53 am

The comments on this blog are very entertaining. The blog post - not so much. The fact that you've got a reverend trolling the comment section and sounding a little like pee wee herman makes it all worth the read.

Jack Reid

1/10/2015 02:42:10 pm

I think someone should start a campaign asking the "HISTORY" channel to change its name to "HYSTERY" Channel.

Jester

1/13/2015 04:07:44 pm

Asinine blog for asinine show. Full of fake geologists, reverends, intellectuals, and genuine obama voters. Here, you are all equally worthless, and my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who don't pack the gear to serve in my beloved corps. That's all of you!

Joe

1/18/2015 03:38:24 pm

I want to know if he as no credentials, then how could he have worked at the Pentagon after 9/11? I mean the government doesn't just hire anybody especially at a place like the Pentagon. Besides, he's a forensic geologist, in no way does that sound like he's an archaeologist, so calling him one then saying he's lying about being one just sounds stupid.

Douglas J. Lawson

1/18/2015 10:40:17 pm

I would like to chime in because I feel compelled to give Scott F. Wolter some KUDOS! If you do not like Scott F. Wolter or the H2 channel, then, do not watch it. If you look carefully, you should be able to find some mindless reality television that you all love so dearly. As for me, I tend to welcome all sources of intelligent conversation, and perhaps make my OWN decision as to what I believe and what I do not believe. I think this man is great! I am even planning a trip to NYC to view these Obelisks that I had no idea that they even existed! This guy has introduced me to all sorts of artifacts that were never 'taught' to me in public schools. So for that, I say KUDOS Mr. Scott F. Wolter! I am a BIG FAN! I am looking around SE Michigan (where I live) to see if we can get you to come here. I heard there was ruins under Lake Michigan that may produce something exciting. Please get that cool submarine thing and get down there!! HAHA

Donald Dow

1/20/2015 01:09:44 pm

I'm a fan of Scott's show (fan of the show).. If you look at the sheer size of the American continents in comparison to the world overall and the fact that people have been sailing long distances for thousands of years... wouldn't it only make sense that someone other than Native Americans have set foot on the North American continent long before documented?.. Or does that seem way too logical?

Allen

1/24/2015 01:16:58 pm

(Wow! This a really long thread.)
Anytime we add to the body of knowledge then we are making a contribution. I don't advocate for anyone padding there resume. I applaud people who are open to alternative theories and are secure enough to question our facts & assumptions.

Jack Meove

1/24/2015 06:43:28 pm

Jack Meove

1/24/2015 06:49:17 pm

more by the city to generate revenue? This is how you and others like you think! Once my driver license expires I all the sudden lose my ability to drive because I FORGOT?
As long as were all stooping to such low levels, I think I will join your way of thinking. I think you have convinced me to coming around to your way of thinking. SO, I think the way you look…. your picture…. you look like a Fudgepacking, RumpRobbing, Buttpirate with the Buttflu. Guess what! Now IM RIGHT! When you go to a Bar so you let “Someone” “Push In Your Stool?” You like this bitch? How’s this make you feel? I hope your Hepatitis wipes your Liver out and you die a slow horrible death… Wait,,, better yet, I hope they find you a Liver, you get a transplant, and it fails, then you die.

He who is HE

1/24/2015 07:27:23 pm

Religion, uuhhgg, what a terrible invention of Man. All any of you do and Im mean ALL OF YOU HUMAN'S.... ARE UTTER IDIOTS WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGION. THIS WORD SHOULD NOT EXIST! NONE OF YOU, ANY OF US UNDERSTAND IT. Interpretations? G*D breathed man. This means his spirit, G*D formed man, this means the physical body. Really?

We are all Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, Christian! Do you think J*SUS teachings were only for one type of people? Do you think M*hammad teachings were for only one People? M*ses? These were profits. All of our Books of Faith come from the same place, the writings within 90% similarity of each others. But yet we fight and kill each other. FYI, The Council of Nicea destroyed the original writings of the B*ble, and included Apocrypha. My Brothers and Sisters INCLUDE EVERYONE. I am responsible for my fellow mans life, ALL. not some. ALL! as all of us are! One of many lessons that all our great profits taught was being able to disagree, accepting when were wrong and seeing it. And accepting our weakness of Ego, Pride, Vanity. KNOW THY SELF. means more than what is says. When you get to a point where you are not insulted by slandering remarks, realize when your wrong either by forced insults, or through kindness and take none personal. Then you have arrived at the starting point of learning and understanding. I take responsibility for all of my brothers and sisters. My life belongs to all of you as yours belongs to me. And people wonder why I wish for the end.....

joan gross

1/26/2015 08:59:56 am

when I was in the 5th grade,1969, our history book called our state (SD) was required reading. In that book we learned that the Vikings, or Norse had left evidence of their presence near Pierre , SD long before the arrival of Columbus. We were all proud that we knew that fact,. But after the Moon landing and LBJ,s administration all the books we studied disappeared. I found later on that books my father studied as a child had disappeared. Much later on I found out that only a small group of people OKs what the future generations are allowed to learn as fact and rules. We have the internet now but how do we filter the baloney from fact. We have been fed baloney so long that it is impossible to know what is true or false. You can only believe half of what you hear and nothing that you see. It is an old adage,but true. And unfortunately at the very bottom people can be lying sacks of you know what in order to be in charge and make the most money.. It only takes a few moments for any information to be distorted. We can not control that. Too bad not all of us were born with bullshit detectors.Most of us , including me get snowed so easily.

Kristoff

1/29/2015 06:39:48 am

Hello
About British Ancestors and Spanglish movement with last 11 century's

Have you ever asked yourself of origins of Great Britain , cause within our European chronicles it seems original saddlers of British Islands were Druids who write in Persian ancient writing language and his twin next brother ancestor's Umayyad( Islamic caliphates established after the death of Muhammad modern Spain on European maps from 740 AD) . English is based on tribes, the Angles, the Saxons and the Jutes .They are the only country in Europe who never has their own original language because it’s based on what they copy from other countries delicate to make your own which means clearly they are not from Europe. Another important fact is no one else besides Great Britain has such involvement and went on crusades on to protected their Holly Land don't you see the special connection between Middle East and England why they keep on coming back through history to the middle east . Christianity came to Europe in 9th century officially but they start sell Bible novel in 7th century to convince everyone took them around 300 when everyone start buying those story’s , even though between 10th to 14th century bible has been constantly change by monk's so it looks like perfect story so Vatican can gain revenue . Before that we believed thunderbolt and war called (Perun) that lives in the sky also Swarog which meant heat and fire.
Until Christianity movement went big on Europe by the end of 9th there we had no major wars between Balto-Slavic and Spanglish - to whom in 8th century according to our chronicles we refer to Spanglish as" The land of mute or dumb" which clearly explain why English Spanish is so primitive nobody can spell right mainly because your silent letters are nothing else but extra letters stick words so it doesn't look to close to German dialect but clearly looks like Births never even notice that and correct their own grammar mistake over the country’s until these days . Once Christianity took over we haven't have even one century without major battle or more like 50 years without war within Europe . Perhaps slavery tradition can crate bigger picture when you add up all fact's about British tradition of slave colonies in India, British Guiana (also spelled Guyana), North America, Iraq, which is typical for Middle East. Eating lam it’s also another trace of Middle East traditions and deeply connected to the British saddlers. Not mention writing date backwards first month, day and year. US Gov. is still serving to British parliament nothing change since 4.07.1776 when United States claim Independence from Great Britain, that is why we have Bush continuation crusades in Iraq for last 30 years since early 1991 which used to be big part of British Empire, in order to for fill Elizabeth II New World Order by hands United States Gov. which will never happen knowing us Slavs mainly because for us face another war its nothing new. CIA support Muslim nation in middles east countries in 1980's while we were involved in cold war otherwise Russia would take Afghanistan out the map and we will never face terrorist attacks.

Question is are we facing World War III to saddle down this issue, cause it looks like Muslims under British Authority of New World Order who never stop support founding Bedouin try to concur Europe and rest of the world to set global Gov. with forced fake terrorist attacks and deny history origins that we have for over 4000 years within Europe , we beat Mongols many times and they know better than that, they are not a match us.
According to Nostradamus we should WW III, are we approaching this conflict in some way I will leave that to you I’m sure you could pulled out some fact’s and create great show.

No offense to anyone in this post its just basis true we all know in Europe just a matter of time when we goanna flip the switch and make right this time , so middle east don't dictate us how should we live or what should we believed .
I hope you can dig more information on this topic and help others understood.

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Michael Renz link

1/30/2015 08:40:53 am

I cant comment about Scotts Honorary Degree, but I can say, that a BS in Geology is pretty handy thing. My wifes family is over flowing with PhDs... I only have a modest BS in Geology, but that little sheepskin has taken me all over the place and given me a great career. I also make more money than the PhDs in the family, go on more adventures, have more freedom, publish more papers (industry stuff, non-peer reviewed) and get to do more seminars and lectures than all of them. My point? Its not the degree but how you use it. Education doesn't stop once your university classes end.

I am not a TV watcher - but I found Scotts series on Netflix. I have really enjoyed what I have seen so far. What I appreciate the most, is Scott presents a "cool face" for geology. So often the sciences are represented by dorks. Scott shows the public a more appealing image than some over weight, mouth breathing, lab rat with an advanced degree. Oh yea, and he is no kid. As a 58 year old geologist myself, its refreshing to see someone my age who is fit and personable representing the field. Old guys rule.

Jason, I would not go casting stones... I saw your inflated bio...Like Scott, you have taken your BS and run with it...good for you. However, one thing Scott has over you... the guy is tall, fit, good looking and masculine....and has a TV show.

Scott - if you read this...rock on brother!

Jack J. Szpytman link

1/31/2015 02:16:28 pm

Many areas in the annals of history are full of information that originates from exaggerated speculation; and, are very limited in true revelation. As an example of this problem see how my explanation of the Great Flood: www.universal-flood.net was revealed. JJS

Jack Sanders link

1/31/2015 04:42:12 pm

Really, why do you care if he has a BS or MS or stands on his head on alternate Tuesdays for a burger today. It is what he says and does and points out that has some interest, at least, rather than the endless intellectualization your generations are so obviously lost in believing your self to know, What? What are you able to actually prove you know as I would really like to know what it is you are so proud of knowing. Really!

George

1/31/2015 06:23:07 pm

I think that whole "M" thing is actually a W and stands for Wolter! It represents the person of the Trinity-Father, Son, and Holy Wolter. Further proof would be of the fact that if you put your two middle fingers as one you would then have three fingers in homage of that trilogy. As for the number thirteen it is an interesting note that if Wolter was spelled using an A there are thirteen letters between A and O!! Come on people!!! Can't you see your nose on your face???!! Another thing-wasn't it absolutely shocking to see a replica of the Statue of Liberty in the country it was designed and built in? I was so shocked that I almost scat myself and I know that would have had a hooked X for sure cause I was sitting down!

chris

2/1/2015 04:59:37 am

I like the idea that someone like Scott questions the establishment’s histories. (Which by in larger are fiction) everything is an interpretation of the facts. And those who use fictitious religion to force fictitious doctrine - based on writings of men using the words “religion” and “faith” as truth, they proclaim. Even though our history was type-set and printed on paper, it’s not proof of the truth! Scott is asking only to question what we have been told is our history. I believe the world is asking the same questions of their governments and scientists. There a saying: “Question everything, Learn something, Answer nothing (Answer nothing I believe means “Keep your options open”)
–Euripides

I like that Scott is questioning the established historical facts.

Adolph jackson pough

2/1/2015 06:01:14 am

I enjoy Scott's show- most of it is BS but some is factual as I have read about it before in books etc. The hooked X thing, and it's meaning I find rather far-fetched and meaningless. It probably is a signiture of sorts or a code but the reasons given by Scott for it are illusive. As a person who has Saint Clair, as well as other known Knights Templar members in family history, I am intrigued by all this. There certainly is something to it- just what it is may never be proven to everyone's satisfaction. It does make wonderful bedtime stories though!. I also enjoy Robin Hood and "the Life & Times of Judge Roy Bean"

Edward Lopez

2/9/2015 02:02:07 pm

Chris: Balderdash!

"And those who use fictitious religion to force fictitious doctrine - based on writings of men using the words “religion” and “faith” as truth, they proclaim."

Scott Wolter is just as a religious fool as are all religious believers. It really doesn't matter if he holds any kind of degree since when he expresses his beliefs in mythology as being real he becomes just like human excrement. An education should train a person to use logic, reason and common sense. Scott's "high" education failed him as he sounds like a jerk when he expresses beliefs about god, jesus, mary magdalene, the holy grail, etc. He really sucks.

nyceddie

3/1/2015 04:38:02 pm

The illusion is that Scott seems to question establishment's histories. But if one is intelligent as I am and an atheist without a belief system, one can readily see that his questioning is a sham for one cannot question outside sources until one questions inner sources. Logic and common sense tells one that there cannot be a god, any god, and a son of a god. That all such tales were created by man to control weak-minded ones Scott is one such weak-minded person because he should first question his religious beliefs and realized that religious beliefs exist only in the minds of those who have been mentally conditioned. It doesn't matter what Scott questions when it's attached to his religious beliefs. To hear him mention Jesus, Mary Magdalene, and the other mythical creations that to him, according to the way he expresses himself constantly, were real people even though he knows that there is no historical evidence for their reality. He has no right to question anything as long as he is a religious slave.

Question EVERYTHING!

George Demplerod

2/1/2015 05:52:24 am

Dear Scott On a show you did- you examined the realization that people of the Minoan Civilization in the Mediterranean sailed regularly to Isle Royale in Lake Superior to mine Copper Ore? I have a problem with that. Seems to me they would be left standing in their boats looking up at Niagara Falls asking how do we get around this thing? Not to mention sailing against the terrific current of the Niagara River above through the lakes. "hint" there were NO ship canals or LOCKS back then !?

Dave

2/1/2015 01:36:02 pm

P. T. Barnum was right!

VVV

2/3/2015 03:05:09 am

I've seen all of the Unearthed episodes. I watch it for the entertainment value and because I have a great interest in alternative science and ideas that challenge dogma. Having said that, 80% of what is presented on the show is laughable and SW comes across as an arrogant blowhard, but there is an underlying message which is valid; that mainstream science will not explore or entertain the possibility of many of the subjects brought up on the show. As an example, I have a question to the sceptics and deniers on this blog: is it plausible that the Templars made their way to North America? i am not asking is it a fact, only is it plausible? Yes or No?

Mike MB

2/3/2015 09:51:47 pm

I don't watch much TV, but lately I have been turning on net flix and letting it run while I work all night into the early AM everyday. well I ran out of things I liked - so I ran all those again and again, over a few moths. got so boring I started running documentaries and all the alien stuff and so on. LOL

I saw this show the other day, season one is on flix. i don't always see what is going on because I am up and down and running around working, packing things and shipping. but i kept hearing Scott Wolter saying things that just made me wince! LOL

So today I decided to watch some of this stuff and it;s freaking me out. I mean really. I ran a search and found this place here easily, just to see if this is some kind of joke. I have known a lot people with these mannerisms and this guy has got to be the luckiest of these type of people ever to get a gig like this. LOL WOW!
this reminds me of that movie awhile back. National Treasure. LOL where everything just goes way too fast, everything is agreed to way too quickly, it's absolutely hilarious to me how many times this guy refers to himself as an absolute 100% source is incredible! I mean it is Amazing!

I'm not name calling here when I say this and I am not pretending to know this guy at all, but all the people I have known that act this way, that have these mannerisms are incredible liars. The kind of Liars that never stop, pathological. It's not just the show, it couldn't be, I think it would be impossible for someone to cover this condition up and I don't think some one can fake either. I am going to go look for more info on this dude. Wouldn't it be cool to get this kind of funding for something that was not bullshit?

[email protected]

2/4/2015 10:02:04 pm

not sure if scott wolter has a masters degree im interested in his show because it highlights anomalies that never get mentioned in main stream books about history. Most archeological digs are funded by private interests who have strict clauses not to reveal what they have found so out of the ordinary finds never come to light especially if the Smithsonian institute has anything to do with it. There are thousands of newspaper articles dating from pre civil war to early 1900s about skeletons over 8 feet in height being found all over America and actually being put on show proving a race before native americans.

Mike MB

2/7/2015 02:35:46 am

Referred to in Genesis as Nephilim. Seems odd that people claim to find these things and then they disappear. Doesn't make any sense to me, if they are real then what is it going to hurt to show them? Are people going to go instantly mad and kill themselves? No, and if some did, well, maybe that's the way it;s supposed to be.
This guy though, Mr Wolter, it's just incredible how he operates. Other shows that are producing these types of stories and scenarios have done well without being so dumb, what in the hell was the History Channel thinking letting this happen this way. The show could be better without the bull crap is what I am getting at,It could be a very interesting investigative show rather than this weird assed treasure hunt, false ego bumper, lame credit collecting, bogus dry run of a show it is.
I have only seen season one. Things that stand out in my head right now as tired as I am. A few punks in Tulsa ( grew up in that area myself) find a sand stone rock in the river. LOL with a BULL on it. get real. I have sat in caves and scratched all kinds of pictures and things into the sand stones in minutes, even gone back to finish with finer tools, and in later life gone to the SAME places to visit my old stomping grounds and look at my work again. Guess what? it was weathered! OMG! yea in just 15 years it was weathered. but this guy takes the rock to get it inspected, while those kids are getting high on the tracks back in Tulsa laughing their asses off that they got a TV show to come see their shit. LOL Too Funny. and the cliff! and the scribed stuff in the sand stones where the old cowboy dude took them to see the sun set! Really?

anyway, some stuff is cool to see but the whole things pretty silly. seems to me if I am going to look at cool stuff from all over the world with semi ridiculous comments and all that Ancient Aliens is much more entertaining. Yeah I know, but it still is more entertaining. At least they toss in the " Cold It Be?" and "You Decide" type of thing rather than if you don't believe me your an idiot because I, Scott Wolter" am correct! BS. what a Joke. he doesn't even see it as a Joke. You can tell, he really expects you to believe his Bullshit and if you don't, then you are an idiot. The show is insulting to people, even people on the show.

Sandra Winter link

2/5/2015 02:24:42 pm

Many of the statements here are not from archaeologists or other trained scientists. There are juvenile comments and accusations. Those did not come from academics. Even the structure of the wording is all wrong.

If Mr. Wolter does not have a masters degree, earned or honorary, he should not claim so. He could well do his program with his legitimate credentials and add in his experience. That would be fine.

There is a methodology to studying these mysteries. As long as that is followed, then the work could be respected.. I would encourage him to do so, and to his naysayers to, in kind, do so.

After all, it is a television show, done for entertainment. It does not need to be embellished with other claims. Nor does it need to be a scientific endeavor worthy of academic study. It should, however, be done with a clear methodology in place.

Sandra Winter, BA, MA (anthropology)

Michael Bahr

2/9/2015 07:12:56 am

Scott, I love the Show and thank you for digesting and researching the possible hidden truth! History is written by the winners and it is clear we have been fed a bunch of B.S. As for the critics, it seems they have numerous issues and should be looking at their mirrored reflections!

patrica edward

2/10/2015 01:57:05 pm

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Mike MB

2/11/2015 08:27:27 am

Wow! You see that post above? What an incredible post! totally amazes me how stupid some people are and on so many levels.

How does this happen?

Sandra Winter link

2/11/2015 02:26:43 pm

I don't know.

Paolo

2/16/2015 07:20:11 am

America Unearthed is no different than shows where they hunt for Bigfoot, Sasquatch, the Yeti, Nessie, or other "monsters" or aliens or ghosts. They string you along with suspenseful music, blurry pictures, and whatever. However they all end the same...inconclusively. No monster scat, no bones, no lairs. The monsters were there yesterday but not today when the crew shows up....and the hair always belongs to a bear of a dog! If you're going to watch these shows then realize your curiosity may be brought to a fever pitch but beware the let down at the end.

Randy

2/25/2015 02:10:03 pm

It takes a lot of bravado to go against the grain of conventional thinking. Always has, always will, hang in there Scott!

Mike MB

3/1/2015 07:58:15 pm

Incredible. , as far as a show goes, The Man is a Liar. Bravado does not mean LIAR, the guys a freaking Liar. if you lie about who you are for anything. you just shot your credibility to hell. seriously.

if I tell you I am a superhero you woudl not believe me. if I insisted you'd tell me to prove it. If I could not do that, you just proved i'm a liar, If I insist after that and keep going around claiming to be a super hero. well then... what is up with that? This dudes a Liar. LOL plain and simple. thats all. write in the history book. he gets all kinds of cool trips and exposure and dough to live on by being a liar, doesn't matter if he's sprinkling truth in there.

Get it now?

Darin H.

3/4/2015 07:17:39 pm

Mr. Wolter,
If these ancient people came here where are the settlements? You can't mine tons of copper in one go and send it all back in one shipment. Your test of the copper against an ingot for purity is weak. The ingot had been worked, meaning impurities had been removed, therefore a correlation based on purity can not be accurately ascertained with any surety at all. In the episode you act like the old world didn't have copper, in fact there were many sources of copper in the old world<(meaning not north America).

Here is a nice published article on copper you should probably read.

http://www.academia.edu/954316/Bronze_Age_copper_sources_in_the_Mediterranean_a_new_approach

A suggestion, be more scientific and less speculative. Maybe invest in a co-host that specializes in anthropology and archeology.

cerda

3/5/2015 06:40:12 am

Scott, Your show is interesting but I have one major issue with some of your research. It certainly would change history if we found out that people from other lands were in the Americas long before Columbus. It so happens that extensive genetic origin research has been conducted by many who are qualified to examine genetic evidence. The particular gene pool I refer to is the Native American Indians. If you perform a Google search on Dr. Thomas Murphy ( see this site: http://mit.irr.org/dna-vs-book-of-mormon-review ) and other well known PhD Genetics scientists, you will find out that 100% (not 99.9% or some fraction, but 100.0000000%) of ALL human bones/remains found in North, Central, or South America dating back to pre-columbian times, or prior to 1492, are from one origin. Those 100.0000000% are ALL with an originating gene pool from Northeastern Asia or near Mongolia. Thousands of pre-columbian remains have been discovered and DNA testing conducted to determine there is no doubt that only Native American Indians populated the Americas prior to the European and African influence that started around 1492. Thousands of living Native American Indians have submitted to DNA testing as well only to find that 99.4% are from the originating gene pool of Northeastern Asia near Mongolia. The other .6% comes from European and African influence after 1492. This may cause many in the Mormon community some heartburn as their belief based on the B of M is that the Indians or Lamanites are of the seed of Abraham and are Hebrew or Jewish in genetic descent or origin. The facts proof completely otherwise since Mongolia is not even close to Israel. In all of your shows, I have watched them all, you could have attempted to find human remains, dig them up, and have the genetic material extracted from existing bone marrow, which preserves for thousands of years, and see if any of them are able to be analyzed as being from a different gene pool, other than Northeastern Asia or Mongolia. I believe what Thomas Murphy and others proved crosses over to proving that there were no other gene pool influences into the North, Central, or South Americas until 1492. This is real science based on the human genome project completion earlier in this century and the ability to identify the gene pool or gene pools for which any individual may trace their roots to. In the case of the Native American Indians, their gene pool of origin is near Mongolia and not Israel as the B of M says. In the case of the Welch mingling with Indians who now speak like the Welch and have blue eyes, etc, in the Northern part of the USA as you reported in your show, or Knights Templar coming here, or a Prince from one of the United Kingdom regions building a castle on Nova Scotia or somewhere near there, or the thousands of people it would have taken to steal all that copper from Northern Michigan over hundreds or even thousands of years, certainly many people from other lands, if they were here, had to have also died here and be buried here. So find the human remains and have the genetic proof made known and there you will find your truthful answers to share with us all. By the way, I was very interested in your TV series until I got to your last three episodes where you attempted to claim Jesus had a wife and a kid and you did not ever give us anything to go on as to why you felt that was true except for a 15th century painting with a pregnant woman in it who you assumed was Mary Magdalene carrying the child of Jesus. I believe that if any of that were true, we would know about it from those who personally knew Jesus and knew the truth about Him and who died for that truth as they would not deny Christ, His existence, His deity, his Godhood, His ministry, His resurrection, and His ascension to Heaven. You can read all about Jesus and the actual people who knew him quite intimately for several years, some His entire life of around 33 years, and never did any of the Bible authors even come close to eluding that Jesus got married and had any kids. That is just a fantasy for people who try by the powers of satan to debunk the true Son of the Living God. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Him. Broad is the way that leads to destruction and many people find it. Narrow is the door that leads to life. Jesus is the narrow door. Agonize to find the narrow door but the pain is worth it. I pray that you and everyone who reads this will allow the Holy Spirit of Christ to lead you and them to His truth.

Šuŋgléška

3/6/2015 03:14:57 pm

I agree with others who have mentioned the use of DNA analysis that would seem to narrow the list of pre-columbian visitors that could have made it here without leaving a lot more pre-columbian DNA all over the place. More significant though, I would think, would be that there would have to be a very long period of isolation to explain the very large numbers of Native Americans who died from exposure to the mix of germs that European explorers brought with them. There would have been at least some immunity to these germs, but as much as 98% of my people died in multiple plagues.

RW - Chattahooche Nat'l Forrest Resident.

3/14/2015 11:16:23 am

Scott: Why people are doing all this put-down is beyond me. What is in a degree? One can learn more by studying the structure of the formations and the stone drawings than they could ever gain from sitting in a classroom and reading books. I learned so much from your report. I even wrote you a letter, but obviously you have moved on, a letter to the History Channel came back, but I never saw your telecast until this year. I think I may be part Creek Indian. I have also tried to find Richard Thornton, I would like to sit down and talk to him also........not to criticize either of you but to glean from you. If you read this and would contact me, it would be a red letter day in my life. RW from Georgia

MIke MB again

3/14/2015 01:44:18 pm

RW LOL can you not read what you wrote and find anything wrong with it?

You state right in your first line that plain and simple facts are beyond you. ( you point out that you are so simple you do not understand ) You are asking "SCOTT" a person that did not even write this article, will probably never read this article, will never answer your obvious questions from your comment. The question " what is in a degree?" LOL It seems like you cannot be real but you are a part of the masses, easily deceived masses. The "Telecast" LOL funny you said that, is Not Scotts, it;s The history channel running a show that is a joke. They picked a liar to be the main character in the show, ya get it ? The people they interview on the show can't even believe the crap this guy comes up with out of the blue like he does.

What the hell does you " Thinking " you might be a Creek Indian have to do with anything you were talking about? Just saying that is weird as hell. I mean, seriously. You may have just as well blurted out you don't even know who you are but you sit around guessing.

I am pretty sure you don't nee to sit down and talk to Scott or Richard Thornton to glean , seems like you might be the " ONE" you mentioned in your third sentence that can get his degree from looking at a drawing on a stone. You do realize many of the things you saw on the show are total fakes right? I mean ridiculously obvious fakes. if you don't you have a real problem, one that may require medication. If you have some inclination that your ancestors were Muscogee and that interests you, the you should go look for records of that. makes no sense to blurt it out in a comment on a site to a person that is not ever going to see your comment and that has nothing to do with any of your concerns.

See?

MB Mike

3/14/2015 01:58:17 pm

Jason, I really hope you are not slapping your forehead every time some one comments directly to Scott in here. It is amazing though isn't it? It's what makes me not wonder how people get money from folks on the net anymore. I used to wonder who could really be that stupid, to send 39.99 + shipping and handling to some swindler and then fade away making that swindler an instant millionaire. Now I do not.

Maybe Scott could do that for his next Gig? Tee shirts and Key chains. OH! even better, he could sell fake degrees!

David Andrews

3/15/2015 05:01:46 pm

William Kirk

3/19/2015 07:27:57 am

I find many of the comments here, pro or con, to be rude. Though people will almost always side with an emotional argument over one based on facts... fact will win in the end. In the meantime, please remember that throwing more mud in the water just makes it harder to see bottom.

Tony

3/19/2015 10:21:46 am

I find the show fascinating.
Yes, it asks far more questions than it answers, but you've got to admit, Scott's not anywhere nearly as much a flake as Giorgio Tsoukalos on Ancient Aliens...that show amuses me greatly, I can't deny it, and I'm certainly open to the possibility that we have been and/or are still being visited by ETs. Most scientists seem to accept that it's as likely that there's other life out there as not. I WISH Giorgio and his crew could find something like evidence, but the truth is, Giorgio never provides a single shred of evidence for his wild speculations. He just keeps speculating, without even a nod to logic or reasoning (and they pronounce foreign names incorrectly ALL THE TIME, which is very annoying for anyone who speaks those languages and knows how to pronounce stuff).
I think Scott's doing a much better of job of at least investigating his suspicions, not just making wild claims based on loose speculation.

MB Mike can't take it anymore.

3/19/2015 01:24:28 pm

can't take it anymore. outta here.

tonya newton link

4/2/2015 02:02:45 am

Scott watched your show hooked X
Jesus did not have a child.

Lillian Zachar

8/13/2015 07:19:14 pm

How do you really know? Where you there, Tonya Newton?

Bonjing

4/12/2015 10:19:54 am

Mehhhh......
Scott Wolter's just constantly in a dead end search to trying to prove the Templars or the Vikings were deep in the North American continent before Columbus "discovered" the continent and built all sorts of structures because the "primitive" Indians were never smart/sophisticated enough to do so. Just an extension of the White European cultures declaring that they "discovered" pretty much the whole world and the people they encountered along the way just did not count......
Frankly, l smell "backward science" that strongly reeks of racism with guys like Scott....

Scott Lund

4/24/2015 06:05:35 am

Dead end search? That statement sounds like results first science which is just as bad as what you feel about the exploration based entertainment you are commenting on. Perhaps if you have time to enjoy art instead of Euro-centric guilt, and look at Mississippian culture, art and legend, while keeping Norse culture in the back of your mind, you may re-evaluate the term, "Dead End Search."

John Christian

4/18/2015 01:11:11 pm

I know this is an ancient thread by internet standards, but I want to point out that the paradigm of a masters/phd degree issued by an academic university as a requirement to become an expert in any field is just "old and busted". If you know your stuff, you know your stuff -and not following the mold of bending to these giant, bloated, ideological institutions should actually be looked at as a "plus".

Regards,
John

Ge Ki

4/18/2015 01:36:47 pm

John Christian - As has been pointed out a million times on this page, the point of this page is NOT that Scott Wolter doesn't have a particular degree. READ THE TITLE. The point is that he LIED about having one. Maybe you're cool with lying. I'm not, especially in academia, where everything depends on honesty.

arkof

12/13/2015 08:55:00 am

why not just tell us how you really feel?

Valerie G,

4/21/2015 12:20:51 pm

No matter the training, observation and confirmation of findings with experts in their respective fields outweighs internet flame wars. Mr Wolter is a man who can take an unbiased look from a fresh perspective and see patterns while exposing us to little-known finds. I'm happy to look and listen to his evidence and theories, and hope to see much more of his work.

Ge Ki

4/21/2015 01:28:54 pm

Valerie - The fact remains that Wolter lied about his credentials. In your world, liars are trustworthy. Not in mine. There is no reason to believe Wolter to be "unbiased." And I have seen plenty of examples when he has not been unbiased.

Scott Lund

4/24/2015 06:07:50 am

Ge Ki, you have seen plenty of examples? Awww, how sweet, you are a fan.

Ge Ki

4/24/2015 07:27:04 am

Great rebuttal, Scott Lund.

Cannibal

5/5/2015 04:58:55 pm

Scott Wolters, you are an asshat. Your opinion should be wholly discounted on the basis that the so called 'facts' that you present are hyperbole, the arguments you make, and historical accounts you present are drivel. By involving your son in your snake-oil business you will curse him to living the same faux-academic charade that you exist by. There is no limit to your arrogance. The lies you perpetuate are no different than those that created these hoaxes which you now examine-- a desire for undeserved recognition. If I were to guess you are likely dictating a new bible via your direct communiqué with god-- typical of your level of egotist.

michaelangelo

5/10/2015 07:11:58 am

Not all whites except maybe all republicans they've been stealing and lying thru out history just look at every government in the world.

Nunya Bidness

5/10/2015 11:30:41 pm

Holy-sh*t, the shear magnitude of arrogance and "ego-centrism" of Academia is on full display here! this is why nobody other than yourselves can stand to be around you. you assume it's because they're not smart enough to appreciate your brilliance, but in reality, it's because your sh*t really does STINK. it kind of reminds me of that South Park episode when Kyle's family moved to San Francisco where the people just loved to smell their own farts.

just having an abbreviation or two after your name doesn't mean you can't also be completely full of sh*t. afterall, when i speak of "Academia" i'm referring to the same institution that once believed in free speech and new ideas, but that now champions made up words like "trigger warnings", "micro-aggressions", and "free speech safe zones" (not to mention signed and initialed step-by-step contracts for consensual sex; great idea). honestly, any institution that promotes that form of logic, or lack thereof, really isn't all that encouraging. get over yourselves; you're not half as smart as you would have others believe.

oh, i almost forgot. hey Richard LaFortune: that line you wrote about Wolter incorrectly spelling find ("you can found things" instead of "you can find things") and then commenting that he probably didn't get an honorary degree in English grammar was really funny (of course it was only me and my college friends that actually got the joke - wink;). that qualifies for highbrow humor, right?

Ursula R.

6/5/2015 03:25:52 am

My thoughts exactly....
Guess what people? It's good to reexamine, rethink and question you.
I believe that at some point Einstein was disproved on some idea and died believing he was wrong. Later those who said it was wrong were sad to find out Einstein was right!
I'm sure you "brains" know what I'm referring to. :)

RETLOW TTOCS

5/21/2015 01:27:51 pm

Dont blame Scott. Blame the producers and director of the show. Blame the network for not giving ample time to film a complete 300 part documentary. Scott does a great job. TV doesnt work well without a formula. The formula supersedes the premise.

steve hartwell

5/21/2015 02:17:48 pm

While tonite watching my first watched episode of one of Scott Wolter's recent 2015 episodes about the Holy Grail/Templar story, I've been wracking my brain on how to say what needs saying to Scott Wolter and to the American people about Scott Wolter and his Holy Grail/Templar episodes.

Scott, I do believe what you're episodes on this subject are saying is true.

But I know better than to believe you falsely claiming to have figured it all out.

Oh, wait - I know what to say -- how about,

unbe-LIEVABLE !!!

"I believe this; I believe that; My research shows this; My research shows that; the sign/symbol that proves MY theory ..... "

I don't know which is worse,

- you plagiarizing all the non-American researchers you get your stuff from, like for example - Michael Bradley of Nova Scotia, CANADA who wrote the Holy Grail/Templar trilogy you stole most of your episodes' content from

- the majority of your fellow Americans watching your episodes who believe you -- being so stupid to believe you figured it all out yourself

- or that most of them probably now also falsely believe that Nova Scotia must be part of the United States, which most if not all of them probably didn't even know existed before they heard you mention it quickly in your show while 'forgetting' to say it's a PROVINCE OF CANADA.

I wouldn't be one damn bit surprised if by the end of your 3rd episode on this Holy Grail/Templar subject you have them all believing Jesus was the 1st American

Which actually would make a bizarre sort of sense, that the future "moral values soul" of, and "blessed chosen by God" United States of America originated and begot by Jesus,

seeing as how the whole Christian Bible and Jesus story that we've all been force-fed for the past 1600 years is phony baloney (as is Islam and Judaism), and I do believe it is all phony baloney,

just like you and the majority of Americans, and the entire United States of America to boot.

unbelievable.....

Nunya Bidness

5/22/2015 04:41:51 pm

say, steve hartwell, you wouldn't happen to be Canadian would you? of all the crap to take offense to, you make it over the fact that he didn't mention that Nova Scotia was a Canadian province?

even as a Christian, i too believe there's a high probability that Wolf's SHARED beliefs on the Holy Grail are accurate, but i never got the impression that he was trying to take full/partial credit for the hypothesis itself; rather, that his own research happened to point in this direction as well. then again, what the hell do i know, i'm American?

Ursula R

6/5/2015 03:20:09 am

To question and question again incorporating new science, new findings and history as we know it now versus in the past is important at so many levels. To attack those who say "we need to look again and reexamine this or that" is simply ignorant.
He has my blessing and many people who refuse to think inside the box.

Ge Ki

6/5/2015 03:34:15 am

Ursula R - Too bad that's not the issue on this page. Look all the way up at the top of the page. See the title? Now if that said "Wolter thinks too far outside the box," then your comment would be relevant. But the issue is the fact that Wolter lied about his credentials, not where he thinks relative to the box. Try to focus.

Eddie white

8/13/2015 10:40:03 am

Scott Wolter must be a moron . In a show about The Lost Colony in North Carolina, he went to a riverbank and picked up stones, to prove his point. There are no stones in this part of the state. All the land in this area consists of sand and silt, washed down from the mountains. What kind of geologist is he? Blatant bullshit.

Billy Worth

8/13/2015 12:46:38 pm

Is Scott Wolter wrong? Maybe, but I have found it very healthy to keep an open mind EVERYTHING! Even if it is 100% proven and factual. An open mind is selfless and being selfless is for me refreshing. I even keep an open mind about MY OPINIONS and beliefs. Anyone with a closed mind is ignirant, selfish and unwilling to accept change. I can also admit I am wrong and be happy to do so. Being proven wrong does not bother me. Being proven wrong lets me knowvI learned something. As far as this subject matter goes I believe in several theories. I am also open to the Ancient Alien theory. You can call me a cook, you can call me names I simply just do not care what you or anybody else thinks about me. I have simply removed myself from the equation. Its funny seeing people get so worked up and upset because of what someone else thinks. This is the problem with the world. Everyone thinks they are right and if someone disagrees... Wars are started, political parties are formed, and people get mad. Why? I wish I knew. When someone disagrees with me I politely say thank you. Its good that other people think differently, buts it bad that people get so upset over it. Even if Scott Wolter is completely wrong... What is so wrong with him having his beliefs. Unless it is physically harming or hurting you... Nothing is wrong! People need to chill. I will get ripped for this post but so what... I could care less what people think of me.

Lillian Zachar

8/13/2015 07:34:55 pm

Nicely said Billy Worth.

Lillian Zachar

8/13/2015 07:31:35 pm

For every negative and nasty unasked comment, really? This world isn't going through enough? That you, in my opinion, shallow minded, jealous, inconsiderate and flat out rude people have to make comments like "I hope you and your daughter die in a car crash"! Really? You've got nothing better to do than bash a guy who is clearly trying to entertain us while supporting his family. If you don't like him, here's an idea, STOP WATCHING. There isn't a gun to your head. Don't make nasty, uncalled for comments about someone you all don't even know. That's what's the matter with this world. All you people with your bad attitudes and dispositions. If you don't have anything nice to say, you have the right to remain silent. Please by all means, DO! Sorry for all these nasty, stupid things you've read, Scott. I'm appalled at man kind at the moment.

Pamela M

8/14/2015 04:16:55 pm

Holy crap! Two and half years later and this is still generating comments? Scott and Jason have struck a chord. I love the show and think it's highly entertaining and though provoking whether the truth is in the mix or not.

Steve

8/16/2015 12:10:30 pm

Scott, if you are reading this, being that it is buried, I'd be impressed. I have watched most of your shows, and have questions for you. First, why expose your hypothesis regarding Jesus having a child without substantive evidence? Can you provide the bloggers with photos of your credentials? Why use foul language in your shows or argue and mock people that are on it?

I believe you substitute evidence with unproven hypothesis. Your baiting viewers on loose non-supported conjecture and failed to deliver. In the process your committing heresy and leading weaker minded viewers who don't question you to follow your show.

The average citizen of the United States has an average 5th grade reading ability. Your show caters to the uneducated people who do not require evidence, and would be susceptible to gypsies selling miracle medicine.

I think you picked an easy target going after the Christian faith and proposing Christ had a child, because if you went after Mohammed, the Muslims would come after you. For your views sake and your own souls sake please be mindful of heresy and the penalty that you won't receive in this world. I think this is a shameful behavior you engage in.

Kaiser Sosay

9/3/2015 07:36:09 pm

Well said. Scott should come out and tell the public his real credentials and get this over with. If you go on TV and claim something then prove it. I like the point about Scott not going after the Muslim faith, he is too cowardly to do that, so he we after people who wont retaliate.

Andy

8/29/2015 05:19:03 pm

History, Anthropology, Archaeology, Science is only as TRUE as the Latest Discovery. (Notice that the "Big Bang Theory" has fallen out of favor) However, there is an organized and concerted effort to displace truth with 'political' gain. In the late 18th and early 19th century it was to the advantage of the United States to promote Manifest Destiny even before it had a name. Therefor, in compliance with that doctrine, it was necessary to maintain the doctrine that ALL AMERICAN INDIANS walked across the Bering Land bridge over a period of several thousand years and thus, by the words of Lewis Henry Morgan that all Indians were Savages even though he successfully defended the Iroquois Indians in maintaining their lands in court. Morgan, although religious most of his life, when he became the head of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, either created or fell into the belief that NO INDIVIDUAL OF FAITH WAS QUALIFIED TO BE A SCIENTIST. So, along with John Wesley Powell the doctrine that NO PEOPLE OF European or Middle East decent ever reached America and no one of FAITH has a LEGITIMATE claim to insist otherwise especially any religious individual or group that claimed that they had found writings and artifacts that indicate otherwise. Even people working for the Smithsonian or National Geographic that found ancient Middle East or European writings or artifacts were ridiculed and maligned having their reputation destroyed and put out of business as a scientific source. Three words are used most often. "HOAX" and "ILLEGITIMATE" and "FRAUD"...in describing anything that does not coincide with the POWELL DOCTRINE toward the Indian Nations. In checking the Caucasian, White, European appearing Mummies in the Chinese Desert... their DNA showed that they had traces of just about every nation running in their family history. Dozens if not hundreds of sites in America show Caucasian, White, family characteristics and the POLITICALLY CORRECT community about has a cow. Every Culture that Anciently had Writing IS FOUND IN THE AREA CALLED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and actually all of North America and South America. AMERICA WAS NOT "LOST" UNTIL THE 'DARK AGES'... The population of the world has been coming and going from America for literally THOUSANDS OF YEARS...why not the Night Templars? The Egyptians, The Manoians, The Vikings, The Irish, The Walsh, The Persians and more (p.s. and some of the Lost Tribes of Israel got here also...oh by the way, Indians do not have Jewish DNA because the Jews were not "LOST", although there is HEBREW writing in ancient America, but that does not fit in to the Manifest Destiny Doctrine nor the Powell Doctrine.) The Windover Bog People (Florida) had European DNA yet the head archaeologist says in a written statement that these Indians walk over the Bering Land bridge just like everyone else. IF HE DID NOT SAY THAT HE WOULD LOOSE ALL FUNDING in any future project. Dr Louis Leakey is a hero for finding Lucy in Africa but when he found 150 thousand year old Indian Burial Site at Calico (Barstow) California, all his funding dried up and nothing got published. Surprise, Surprise.

linkonhayes

8/30/2015 05:33:54 am

That's Entertainment.

Andy (again)

8/30/2015 03:28:12 pm

Note about Scott Wolter's Honorary Degree: There is more to your criticism here than the question of a degree, honorary or not. Hay Jason try this: There is not One Paper, Not One Person, Not One Faculty Professor, Not One Student, that remembers Barack Obama attending or participating in any class or student project while attending Columbia University. There Has Not One Record that has been released by the University nor any of his academic papers, or Philosophies Treatises ever been shown or published. I say that to say this… Are you really concerned that there is not a public record that you can find about some honorary degree or is your “anger” directed to what he is saying? One does not have to have a diploma to be smart. One does not have a degree or a title to have information or a conversation of intelligence or even “Common Sense” (which seem to be dwindling in the time of “Political Correctness”). Jason you are an ‘editor’ and ‘publisher’ but I do not know your credentials. Does that mean that you are not an authority on any subject that you publish or question? Whoop-de-do! There is more to your interest than Scott Wolter's honorary degree. Is there a dislike of Scott Walter personally, or his Faith, or his Method of reasoning, or his Archeology findings, or the fact that America has been visited and colonized by more people that those that seem to be of Oriental decent, over the last 20 or 30 or 40 thousand years? Character Assignation has been the method used by “authoritative government” especially in dealing with the Indians and Ancient Artifacts for over 150 years… Who are you? You want to look into something that is not true work on Man Made Global Warming? Boy, talk about a hoax. And explain all the previous Global Warm Periods when man made Industrial Pollutions cannot be blamed. And no this is NOT the hottest the world has ever been. But because there are more people alive than any time in the past, more people are feeling the 'heat' so to speak.

My question to you is where does your anger come from and why dislike for the perspective that many (groups of) people (White and non White) have visited America before the Native Americans came here and before Christopher Columbus.

Tatyana Sokolov

12/21/2018 01:58:46 pm

Really like your comment. I'm also wondering the same, where is all this anger and spite coming from. Circling back to the original comment made by Tara Jordan..wow...it was cute watching her quickly back down after Scott reponded. In any case, its always easy to judge someone, it doesn't take energy or time to research, but if you turn to destructive methods, that does not say much to me about YOU as a person, hence your point of you is disqualified in my book from that point on. If you're going to criticize someone, do it in a constructive manner, with evidence and research, not nasty spiteful comments.

Stan Browm

9/2/2015 11:26:52 am

Scott;
Much of what you have covered on your show has been covered by Dr, Barry Fell in his book "B.C. America" which was published in 1976. Dr. Fell wrote about pretty much the same rock carvings, and cave paintings, that you have noted. He drew similar conclusions to those you have drawn: that men from Europe reached the Americas well before Columbus. If you haven't read it, I recommend you do so. Also I recommend the Dec. 2012 National Geographic article on page 132, The Lost World of Doggerland and the 2014 August National Geographic issue page 32 "The First Stonehenge, Scotland's Master Builders. The former deals with what happens when prehistoric sites disappear underwater due to glacial melt. The latter deals with Orkney Island stone constructs, especially stone homes at Skara Brae which include stone hearths, stone beds and stone cupboards which are somewhat reminiscent of the North American stone structures you investigated on one of your shows last year, if memory serves, in the New England area. There is a lot of evidence that Europeans explored the Americas not only pre-Columbus but pre-Viking, perhaps as early as 8,000 yrs. ago. Bear in mind that no European country was sufficiently consolidated, that one kingdom could have spent significant amounts of money developing and exploiting the resources in the Americas. It was only after the consolidation of hundreds of minor kingdoms into one very large (for example: England, or Spain, or France) kingdom that European kings could afford to send explorers to the new lands, to exploit them. And of course, it became necessary to do so in order to gather additional wealth for the wars from the 1600's on. Keep in mind that kings, queens, and their offspring of Europe by that time were inbred, mostly to keep the wealth and power in as few hands as possible. (You know, of course that during WWI, the King of England and the Emperor of Germany shared the same Grandmother, for example). I remember reading a book about Native Americans in which the author stated that Western Native Americans were likely descendants of ancient Mongolian people who crossed Alaskan land masses 8,000 years or more ago; and that Eastern Native Americans were likely of European ancestry, and had crossed over 8,000 years ago, when the last great glacial period was ending. The Leni Lenape look entirely different from the Apache, and their customs and beliefs, while sharing some similarities, are notably different. You may want to read Wm. Penn's comments about the Leni Lenape, which he wrote in letter to England, (I forget the recipient).

John

9/13/2015 03:13:06 am

If you guys thought that Scott lied about his Masters being an actual accredited degree, than you have to hear how both Scott and the History Channel are now passing him off as a Historian now, and not a Geologist anymore. But don't take my word for it, watch his new show "Pirate treasure of the Knights Templar", where they distinctly call him at the beginning of the first two episodes a "Historian." Also, here is the conversation I had with Scott over on his blog where he says it can't be changed now:

"Anonymous September 6, 2015 at 5:33 PM

Hi Scott,

How come in the History Channel's description for the new series on their site, does it say that your a "historian" and not a "geologist"?

http://www.history.com/shows/pirate-treasure-of-the-knights-templar/about

-- John

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Scott Wolter September 6, 2015 at 5:39 PM

John,

That's a good question. However, there are certain aspects of medieval history I do know a lot about. I certainly wouldn't try to pass myself off as an academic in history, but I have published a lot of original historical research. 'Amateur historian' is probably accurate.

I'll let you decide when you watch the new series.

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Anonymous September 6, 2015 at 8:12 PM

Scott,

I understand that reading up on medieval history is a hobby and side project of yours, but it still does seem like History Channel should fix the description as it is passing you off as someone that you are not. Has anybody contacted them to inform them of it? It would just feel more honest if it was updated.

-- John

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Scott Wolter September 6, 2015 at 8:19 PM

John,

Medieval history is more than just a hobby or side project to me and I don't think History is trying to pass me off as someone I'm not. What in your definition qualifies someone to be an historian?

What you will learn in this series very few historians know anything about.

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Anonymous September 6, 2015 at 9:07 PM

Scott,

I don't have my own definition of history as it is not mine to call. A historian is a professional and an authority who studies the past, and is accredited with a degree in the field because of their extensive focus in it. Even you said Scott that it is more accurate to say that you are an "amateur historian," so you are aware that you are not a professional in the field since you don't have a degree. And History hasn't described you before as a historian, so it's weird now that they are doing it all of a sudden.

-- John

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Scott Wolter September 7, 2015 at 7:03 AM

John,

Having a degree in history makes you an "historian" or a "scholar of History" or a "Professor of History", but that doesn't guarantee competence as we've seen time and again in the arena of pre-Columbian history in North America. Being paid makes you a "professional" and simply knowing more than most about a particular subject makes a person an "authority." An academic degree isn't required for either title.

Let's be clear that I'm not claiming to be an academic historian, but in this particular subject matter that is germane to this show I do know a lot about it.

I was surprised to see that title for me listed too, but it's too late to change. For the record; I am and always will be a forensic geologist who knows a lot about certain aspects of history. "

Ge Ki

9/13/2015 03:40:40 am

Quite revealing, thanks John. It shows that Scott Wolter is willing to accept whatever imaginary accolades will make him appear bigger than he is. He says he's "published a lot of original historical research." I wonder where he has published? Has any of it been published in academic journals in which articles are first reviewed by actual historians before publication? I can't call it "peer review" because actual historians are way more qualified than Wolter's peers.

Bill

11/9/2015 05:57:16 pm

Nothing guarantees competence but an academic with years of specialized study and research is far more than likely to be competent in the field. More competent than a television host or someone who holds an undergraduate in geology with no formal training in history or any other field traditional to historic research.

A historian is a credentialed professional researcher in the field of history. Academic, private sector, government or independent. I've worked with several over the span of my career and they've all acquired advanced degrees in that or an allied field like American Studies. An advanced degree would require coursework in history and academic and peer-reviewed demonstration as a historical researcher.

I wouldn't throw out or generalize the population of hard-working, hard-trained, academic historians based on a few bad apples. The typical logical fallacy known as the "hasty generalization".

Victor Dyson

9/13/2015 04:13:34 am

Why is Barry Clifford being associated with the likes of Scott Wolter? Mr. Clifford is indeed a real genuine expert and discoverer of artifacts and historian especially in regard to pirate and maritime discovery. So why does Barry Clifford want to be associated with shady Scott Wolter?

Also many of you on this board are quite long winded. WTH?

John

9/13/2015 06:01:48 am

Welcome to the internet.

ScottyMon

4/28/2016 06:39:56 pm

Barry Clifford and expert and discoverer of artifacts? Seriously? What a huckster.

Internat

9/19/2015 03:03:43 pm

SCOTT REALLY HAS DEGREE. HE IS THE SMART AND YOU ALL DUMB

BJradley M. Armitage (M.A.)

10/17/2015 12:00:05 pm

Internat, your broken English call into the voracity of your expertise to comment in such a well thought out site.

its not the point that he only has a B.S. its that he lied about his credentials, there' no such degree as "Forensic Geology" Look lying is wrong, and lying about credentials is wrong no way shape or form

Bradley M. Armitage

9/20/2015 05:22:30 pm

Mr. Wolter, is flat wrong in everything he is saying about the Templars (The Ancient order of the Temple). Let's take a look at his new show, pirates and Templars on the History channel. He describes in detail how the novice is tested to gain admission. Nobody knows this. There are no records. How did Mr. Wolter get this information? just pick anything he says, google it, and his info will be wrong, just my opinion, but accurate I think.

Brad

Zacarias Valles

10/18/2015 03:01:16 am

Once upon a time and to present time a few quacks are born. Sometimes a lot of them at one time.

Ralph Palmer

10/26/2015 05:41:29 pm

Hey Scott,
I was doing some digging behind Lambo Field in Green Bay...and I FOUND THE HOLY GRAIL in a weathered old Jock Strap. I'm convinced now that Vince Lombardi was actually Jesus! Er...will the History Channel send me a check now?

arkof

12/13/2015 08:29:59 am

hey, since scott can gain access to even the most religious places on the planet, like the dome of the rock, why not go to etheopia where everyone knows is where the ark of the cov. is located. then with the power he can declair himself God and he will not need a degree in anything!

peace - out

James L. Coster

12/23/2015 10:40:18 pm

i've watched a number of shows where mr. wolter was involved in one manner or another. and i watch the history channel regularly. mr. walter's shows seem very light on science but are mildly stimulating and somewhat entertaining. however, one show he did particularly upset me - the search for the Holy Grail in which mr. wolter spent the entire episode on some kind of anti-Christian soapbox declaring that Jesus was a regular guy who was married to Mary Magdalene. if there is one thing i know for sure it's that mr. wolter has NO training nor authority to comment about Jesus, Mary Magdalene or the Christian faith in general. as a Christian, i found that episode very offensive and lost all further interest in viewing wolter in any subsequent show. so i say to you mr. wolter - do whatever you want with your "rocks for jocks" degree and your "world hopping" TV shows. but PLEASE, SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT YOUR VIEWS ON CHRISTIANITY!!

Nathaniel McComb

1/1/2016 10:01:26 pm

I love all the comments. It's like reading FACEBOOK. All bunk and junk. It's fun to discover all these armchair experts trolling the internet to start stupid arguments.

Justin

1/13/2016 07:57:32 pm

I think anyone on here that has to hate on Scott this much needs a life. Especially the originator of this blog. I'm no scholar or even claim to be. Scott on the other hand has brought to the publics attention things that are out there. And the ONLY argument here is prove him wrong. Get your own show, publish your own books, and prove him wrong. Otherwise I'd say grow up and get lives. Honestly if I had the money I would back him. On the simple fact of humanity, that it's easier to believe the lie than the truth. The truth hurts, and Scott contests the truth. I applaud him.

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1/13/2016 08:09:50 pm

i don't have any problem with anything mr. wolter wants to say or do regarding NON-RELIGIOUS, NON-CHRISTIAN topics. i have actually found some of his theories interesting. HOWEVER, as i stated previously, scott wolter has NO background, education or credentials of ANY KIND to offer his ridiculous theories on Jesus being "just another guy with a wife." he should have enough sense to keep that opinion to himself - PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION!!

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2/4/2016 11:04:55 am

Irrespective of his qualifications, Scott Wolter encourages you not to accept currently preferred historical explanations as 'facts'. History changes all the time and what we know, or think we know, is often the opinion of historians, rather than fact. I have a degree in History but always keep an open mind and am happy to be proved wrong about something if new evidence emerges. I find Mr Wolter's ideas to be thought provoking and interesting if nothing else! At the end of the day, it's TV entertainment and he does it well.

Jim Coster

2/25/2016 07:29:35 pm

Mr. Wolter must be so proud to see that one of his "entertainment" shows featuring his anti-Christian and blasphemous anti-God views about Christ is being shown over and over again during this Lenten season. I have no idea what Wolter's infatuation with Dan Brown's "make believe" books are nor why Wolter believes it is his mission in life to "prove" that "Jesus had a wife and kids" just like everyone else. I feel sorry for him if his personal insecurity and ego drives this obvious obsession. Mr. Wolter: do you not care that your views on this topic are incredibly offensive to millions of people? Or perhaps, you simply don't give a shit. Without any comment to the contrary from you, I can only assume the latter.

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2/26/2016 02:32:55 am

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I fear for our future with the tv show a substitute for academia and facts. It has to be fun and sensational!!
Scott makes money, that is all that matters. Right? Like a movie that is a movie, no matter its premise. Scott has no responsibility to present facts. Pseudo science is so much more fun then those pesky facts. The ones that take too much time researching.

My morals may be bigger, but Scott's house, and bank acount are bigger. Besides he is having fun....

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3/13/2016 09:37:21 pm

Scott Wolter... What a mess.
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Stop looking up and start looking down was the new way for humans.
900,000 year ago till about 14,000 years ago was the Ancient World. Due to the Gas Planet (Saturn & Jupiter) filtering the Sunlight, everything was bigger, plants, animals, insects & men were mighty men but when the planets changed positions & the strength of the sunlight changed so to did your world. Even the gods/aliens straw away for the Curse of Death from the Sun. Har-1 is the Gen the gods toyed with. Give man speech. In the shape of Orion is HAR-1/Giza too.
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4/4/2016 01:38:08 pm

In Canada we're watching your political situation very closely. Your post though sarcastically delivered is right on. The US is extremely powerful in bullshit baffles brains mentalities in politics, and probably in the population generally. I say this because so many people are taken in by Mr. Wolter's claims. But Scott Wolter is practicing what your country considers successful behavior, he bullshits, and he thinks his shit doesn't stink, this attitude comes out loud and clear. He's full of himself, but then so are many Americans in general. Watched a program where the jury members were described as "American jurors' what the heck else would they be? Why put the word 'American' in there? In a country where grandiose behavior is encouraged, correction, it's a right of passage as a citizen of one of the bully nations, what other behavior do you expect to dominate your media? Your message is correct, but the delivery of your excellent comments are negative, rather than inviting intelligent discourse the post instead invites antagonism.

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4/4/2016 02:25:52 pm

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i can understand how "our neighbors to the north" regard much of what occurs in the U.S. as "bullshit" or ""grandiose behavior" or any other negative comment you can think of. the U.S. as a Country, and Americans as its citizens have enjoyed a level of wealth, success and world-dominance since after WWII that no other country in the history of the world ever experienced. consequently, our "superior attitude" comes from rather legitimate sources - even if such attitude is unattractive.

however, i would remind you as my Canadian neighbor of a few things you may be overlooking. First - Canada spends almost ZERO expenditures on its military. why is that? because its "arrogant neighbor" to the South is the world's leading military Superpower. as such, since WWII, Canada has been able to earmark nearly all of its domestic gross national product on its domestic problems. Second - Canada's "neighbor to the South" is ALSO the world's LARGEST ECONOMY. why is that important to Canada? because, again since WWII, Canada has been able to utilize the almost completely unregulated border between Canada and the U.S. for economic trade, development and vast symbiotic business relations. Finally, because Canada has only Eskimos and Arctic Bears to its North and its closest alley to its South, Canada has NO "natural geo-political threats or predators." So... go ahead and repeat all the negative behavioral attitudes and actions that we Americans are aware we all suffer from down here. But i would hope you would remember while you are making your comments that you are able to live that safe, secure, economically stable and ultra-liberal semi-socialist political lifestyle BECAUSE of that "nasty and impolite" neighbor you have just across your southern border.

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7/17/2016 12:41:01 pm

You need to read "Entryway Into Yesteryears" it about God and his young brother Lord Christ. God remove Lord Christ from Heaven, because he want to start his own religion call Christianity. God is Adam father (Adam and Eve) and Lord Christ is father to Jesus.

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8/4/2016 10:30:45 pm

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8/4/2016 10:25:00 pm

You people have to remember that every show on tv is edited. Scott did a good job and is knowledgable, im sure there were a lot of things he wish he could have said on tv. I like how everyone on here thinks they are a genius. If you really knew the truth you would shit yourself

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9/27/2016 05:31:56 pm

First time I saw him on TV I suspected that Wolter is a more of a "showman" than a scientist. Maybe it is because I spent forty years in law enforcement I tend to have a knack for recognizing self serving people. Also although I am "white male with some college" voting for Trump, I still know a liar. I am not saying Wolter is a liar. There is just no evidence to indicate that he is fully truthful. You know an omission has the strength of a commission. There are plenty in his "investigations"

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11/7/2016 04:30:37 pm

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11/10/2016 12:16:15 pm

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11/10/2016 12:26:31 pm

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, as this thread is loooong and I didn't read the whole thing, but many of you may not be privy to how Hollywood works. Mr. Woltet probably has very litttle to say about his show and how each episode plays out. The channel wants ratings. Rating = $$. Scott was chosen because he's good looking, personable, and has some knowledge in this field. He is successful in drawing the viewer in and taking them on an adventure. The producers of this show probably care very little if the content is true, and believe me, the stars of these shows have very little control over content and editing. Having said this, and being a Forensic Expert in 4 different areas, I can say that Mr. Wolter was engaging and at least brought to the public different areas of history that many of us didn't even know existed. For that, I'm grateful to the show. It is a fun and entertaining hour. My suggestion is that if you find the subject interesting, go research it yourself, and add to the scientific community by sharing your findings. Never, ever, depend on a television show to educate you , but use it as a springboard for further investigation. Now...I have research to get back to. Peace.

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11/10/2016 05:23:57 pm

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i do not like mr. wolter primarily for his belief that Jesus was married to Mary Magdelyn and had children with her. with that said, i agree with you that his show SHOULD NEVER be viewed as a "research" or "scientific" presentation but an "entertainment" endeavor. as an "entertainment" vehicle, it does have some value because it presents subjects and views that the viewing public might not know about and of which they might find some interest in further exploring on their own. understanding that wolter's show is just meant for some interesting and reasonably "mindless" entertainment, i would encourage tuning in.

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5/18/2017 03:40:54 pm

I always find comical how people, when they are in disagreement with someone's view - how quick they are to try to discredit them by accusing them of not having the proper credentials etc. instead of proving them wrong with undeniable proof.
I'm just watching the series GENIUS (Story of Albert Einstein). I am by no means paralleling Scot Wolter with Einstein but if you know the obstacles and accusations that Einstein had to endure and defend because the majority believed that what was in the text books was Gospel truth. What I'm saying is this. Back up your accusations with data & truth...debate your ideas like an adult. Don't be school yard bully hurling accusations...and don't be so narrow minded that ONLY people with PhD's and Doctorates can think.

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Jack Capella

6/3/2018 10:00:40 am

Kensington Rune Stone solved... Wolter's agrees.

https://archive.archaeology.org/0201/newsbriefs/runestone.html

Jack Capella

6/3/2018 10:06:19 am

Wolters explains his honorary degree due to vicious attacks and speculation.

http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2014/09/so-what-about-that-apparently-non.html

So many people who delve into subjects that contradict the main stream are shouted down and dismissed, why? There are far more people shouting than doing the work. I have much more respect for a man like Wolter's who is out there doing something than the over educated hacks, sitting in a room basing their conjecture completely on what they've accepted from past studies.

Get out there and do the work.

Tye Tyson

10/12/2018 02:24:25 pm

The problem with academia in America, especially writers, is that they think a degree gives them the right to sit at a desk 1,000 miles away from an artifact and reject it out of hand. And we're supposed to bow down to them because they taught at a college for 20 years. Nobody cares and you're all a bunch of pretentious a-holes. Go back to your communist brainwashing and leave the fieldwork to the people with open minds.

Jorge Roma

11/15/2018 09:32:19 pm

While I see the show as just purely entertainment, I am saddened with Scott's belief that Jesus was not the Son of man. Jesus did not have relations with Mary Magdalene nor did he extend His blood line with Mary. I pray that Scott finds the Truth and comes to know that the Bible is the inerrant word of God and comes to believe in our Savior. I was entertained by the show up until I saw the episode of Scott making statements against the Truth, at that point I turned off the show and will not watch any other episode. Scott, may God bless you and I hope you find the truth, the way and the life! I have been so blessed by our Lord that there is no shaking my faith and I hope you also arrive at that same truth!

Tony

12/24/2018 06:41:27 am

Whether you are pro-Wolter or against Wolter, why do so many institutions try to hide the truth from us? How do they have the gall to think we are not capable of handling the truth and that their fabrications are better for us than the truth? Perhaps some reasons Scott can't come up with the truth is 1) he wasn't there when it happened 2) somebody removed it, then 3) gave us lies to digest instead.

Lucius Cincinnatus

1/2/2019 09:47:47 pm

I am not familiar with the work of Jason or Scott but came across this post while cross referencing a source linked to Scott. I have no opinion of him or his work yet but am more intrigued to read his work after coming across Jason (who takes a tone that would imply he’s fairly credentialed academically himself) taking to the internet to write a long winded & pompous appeal to accomplishments fallacious attack against Scott... has all the hall marks of a uppity Academic hack threatened by someone with less formal education possibly being able to contribute to his field.

EDWARD LOPEZ

5/5/2019 09:16:53 pm

Today is May 5, 2019 and I'm watching, again, America Unearthed reruns on the Travel channel. Scott is entertaining to watch but irritating to listen to when he claims, as fact, bullshit about jesus, mary magdalene, the holy grail and all the other claims most of which have been proven hoaxes such as the Talpiot tomb which contained ossuaries alleged to belong jesus and his family. It's been debunked.

Obviously, Scott is a devout christian which clouds or removes all signs of logic for it is fact that there is no historic evidence for most of the new testament characters. Scott looks for evidence but ignores the lack of evidence for ridiculous religious belief system.

As an authority figure he missed the boat.

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Dravloucoula de Vampire

7/11/2024 09:22:57 pm

All you academic idiots expected me to read all that bs didn't you ...

Those shows are the only thing holding entertainment together. So holster your lip Harvey,

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7/11/2024 09:26:10 pm

I think there should be more indicators for idiocy on the web. Would definitely keep people like me outta there... Where ever there is...

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