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Scotty Roberts: Anunnaki Descendants Mated with Israelites, Migrated to Ireland

2/27/2015

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I should start today with the sad news of the passing of Leonard Nimoy, best known for Star Trek but influential in the world of fringe history as the narrator of In Search Of... and the host of Ancient Mysteries on A&E. He introduced many people over the past four decades to both science fiction and the pseudo-historical fantasies built from sci-fi parts.

Before I get into the main topic for today, I have a brief review of last night’s episode of Expedition Unknown S01E08 “Code to Gold,” which followed almost exactly the Freemason conspiracy treasure hunting format used by many of last season’s episodes of America Unearthed on a rival channel. By contrast, when host Josh Gates heads off to Virginia to look for the fictitious Beale Treasure—a vast hoard of gold supposedly buried in Bedford County around 1819—the show gives a fair airing to a number of different perspectives on the treasure, including what I am certain is the correct solution: that it never existed.
The Beale Treasure story derives from a work of fiction, a pamphlet published in 1885 by John B. Ward, a Freemason, who claimed that the three numerical ciphers therein were composed by the likely non-existent Thomas J. Beale in the 1820s and would give the location of his treasure to anyone who could decode them. One of the three, he said, had been decoded by using the Declaration of Independence as a key. Ward, of course, made a good chunk of cash selling the pamphlet to would-be treasure hunters. In 1982, skeptic Joe Nickell determined that Beale never existed and that Ward had fabricated the documents, which contain words that did not exist in the 1820s. He concluded that Ward modeled the hoax on the “secret vault” allegory of Freemasonry, which is also Nickell’s explanation for Oak Island and many other mysteries. It’s his favorite explanation for anything involving underground treasure.

After visiting with several different treasure hunters who each have their own pet theory about where the treasure is buried, Gates meets with the Freemasons in Philadelphia to discuss Masonic codes, but he declines to promote conspiracy theories about Masonry. Instead, he turns to the NSA (which, if you believe that other show is in the clutches of Masons), where an expert demonstrated that one cipher was critically flawed and that the other two were not ciphers at all but random series of numbers thrown together from the first cipher. Gates correctly concludes that this won’t change the minds of treasure hunters but pretty much closes the book on this “mystery.” Ward dreamed up the hoax, and that was that.

The episode was well-produced, and given that I’m not at all interested in fruitless treasure hunting, enjoyable to watch. It had its share of TV fakery—I doubt Gates just happened to stumble upon a cave while carrying spelunking equipment for what he claimed was a boat trip down a river, but his caving adventure did produce this wonderful line you won’t hear over on H2: “I feel like a giant baby squeezing my way out of a limestone birth canal.”

Actually, given H2’s penchant for psycho-sexual rewritings of history, you might hear something like that.

Scotty Roberts on Irish Anunnaki
Our friend Scotty Roberts uploaded a paper to Academia.edu in which he claims that the Irish deities known as the Tuatha De Danann are the Anunnaki of Mesopotamian mythology. The paper can also be found as an article on Mysterious Universe. This is ridiculous on many levels, but in discussing the mythic beings Roberts manages to demonstrate his lack of familiarity with the many layers of mythology and the changes mythic figures underwent over the centuries, as well as his poor research. 

He begins by discussing the Irish deities and notes that they are also depicted as “flesh and blood” kings. He seems to find this surprising, but he fails to note that the source he consults for this—the Lebor Gabála Érenn—is not ancient but medieval and exists in several different redactions. The reason that the Tuatha De Danann appear as kings and queens is that their stories were rationalized and euhemerized by Christian monks, who only on occasion hint that the stories were originally told of divinities before being downgraded to mortals, much the way Euhemerus reduced the Greek gods to Eastern monarchs and Snorri Sturluson turned the Norse pantheon into a traveling band of Trojan heroes. Section 7.317 explicitly calls them “gods,” while in 7.318, the monkish commentator adds that Christians view them as “demons.”

Roberts tells of how the Tuatha De Danann descended onto a mountain in a cloud that covered the sun for three days. It’s interesting that Roberts rejects the oldest version of the first redaction, the Book of Leinster (1150 CE) version of section 7.306, which describes this event in mythical terms, but prefers the later additions to 7.306 in the Book of Fermoy (1373 CE) and also when the story is repeated again in 7.322. In those cases, the descent on the mountain in fog becomes a smokescreen created by the Tuatha De Danann burning their ships to show that they would not leave Ireland. The two versions represent different levels of euhemerizing of the same story, but for Roberts, the second version is “less steeped in the mistiness of legend” and therefore for him more correct! I would argue that it’s just the other way around: that the rationalized version is an attempt to place stories of the divine in a human world.

(Just to note: Roberts’s citation of the Lebor text, including the line used to introduce an excerpt from the Macalister translation, appears to be copied from Wikipedia, since in both texts the following words appear exactly: “A poem in the Lebor Gabála Érenn says of their arrival.”)

Robert then asserts that the Tuatha De Danann became the Elves, and that the word Elf is “a derivative of the ancient Sumerian Elil and the Hebrew Elohim,” an unsupportable assertion for many reasons. First among them is neither of those words is Indo-European, while “elf” is an Indo-European term believed to be closely related terms for “white” (cf. Latin albus), suggesting the elves magical or moral power. We can see that in the Old English form of “elf,” aelf, and its medieval Norse and German counterparts, alfr and alp respectively. By contrast, the Elohim derive from a Semitic word, il, a word associated not with whiteness but strength. I am not familiar with “Elil,” which I believe is a variant of Enlil, the high Sumerian god.

But this is not enough language play for Roberts. He then connects the Tuatha De Danann to the Jewish tribe of Dan, and thus to the Watchers and the Nephilim, because, really, what fringe theory doesn’t involve Jews and Watchers? Roberts claims that the Tribe of Dan traveled to Mt. Hermon during the Exodus and there were indoctrinated into the pagan rites of the Watchers, who in 1 Enoch descended from the sky onto Hermon. I think that he is referring to the later events when Dan became a center of idol worship under Jeroboam (1 Kings 12:30).

Unbeknownst to me, this is apparently a popular fringe theory in End Times prophecy since Hippolytus of Rome claimed that the Antichrist would come from the Tribe of Dan. Therefore, Christian anti-Holy Bloodline conspiracy theorists assert that Mary Magdalene descends from the Danites in order to assert that the Merovingians, by dint of being Magdalene descendants, are lineal Danites and therefore satanic breeders of the future Antichrist. In other words, there are some Christians who assume that there is some substance to the Holy Bloodline conspiracy and then back-form a satanic conspiracy to fool us all into thinking the Holy Bloodline conspiracy is true. It makes my head hurt.

But Roberts doesn’t make so facile a connection as Dan = Danann. Oh, no! Instead, the Tuatha De Danann are Canaanite worshipers of Anu whose menfolk married the womenfolk of Dan: 
The people of the Israelite tribe of Dan intermingled with the Canaanite Tuatha De Danann, also known as the Dragon Lords of Anu, said to be the offspring of the ancient Sumerian Anunnaki. This is also one of the interpretations of the Sons of God intermingling with the “daughters of men,” referenced in the Genesis chapter six story of the Nephilim.
He then asserts that the combined Canaanite-Israelite group migrated across Europe, bequeathing Nordic and Celtic culture wherever they went, a culture he called “Canaanite Anunnaki Serpent culture.” Roberts asks: “Are these simply tricks of word similarities or are the coincidences far too great to overlook?” The first. “Danann” is not related to “Dan” but is the genitive of Danu, a reconstructed goddess name that scholars variously link to Indo-European words for running water or goodness. “Dan” is a Hebrew word referring meaning “judge” and may be a Hebraizing of Denyen, one of the Sea Peoples whom some believe became the Tribe of Dan, or even the Danaoi, a Homeric term used for the Mycenaeans.

Roberts connects the Tuatha De Danann to Greece by asserting, from website and fringe book claims, that the lost Psalter of Cashel claimed (in the full quotation) that “The Danans were a highly civilized people, well skilled in architecture and other arts from their long residence in Greece, and their intercourse with the Phoenicians. Their first appearance in Ireland was 1200 B. C., 85 years after the great victory of Deborah.” The trouble is that the quotation is not from the Psalter, but has been found in various forms in Victorian works, typically attributed to Philip MacDermott’s Annals of Ireland (1846). You’ll see how Roberts got misled because he copied from people who copied from people who copied from Victorians who never read the original:
O’Brien, in his learned work on the Round Towers of Ireland, considers that these beautiful structures were built by the Danans, for purposes connected with Pagan worship and astronomical observations, an opinion not improbable, when it is considered that the Danans ruled in Ireland about two centuries, or one hundred and ninety-seven years, according to the Psalter of Cashel, and were highly skilled in architecture and other arts, from their long residence in Greece, and intercourse with the Phoenicians.
The Psalter was only used to claim the length of the gods’ reign; their sojourn in Greece was O’Brien’s brainchild, fed through the filter of MacDermott.

O’Brien’s Round Towers (various editions, 1830s-1890s) is the origin point for claims Roberts doesn’t even know he’s copying! In that crazy bit of unmoored antiquarianism, the author claims that the Tuatha De Danann were from the East (India, originally), migrated through Europe, and gave rise to various civilizations, spreading culture with them as they made their way to Ireland, where they built temples to Indian and Greek gods. He claims that the round towers of Ireland are evidence of this primeval pilgrimage, but we know today that these towers are medieval in date.

Roberts’s piece concludes with speculation drawn from Laurence Gardner, who is not accurate or reliable enough to waste the time to summarize, and some musing about how historical research shows that the Tuatha De Danann have Sumerian origins!
32 Comments
EP
2/27/2015 06:49:50 am

Prediction: The focus of this thread is going to be neither Leonard Nimoy nor Expedition Unknown :D

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Clint Knapp
2/27/2015 07:24:27 am

For a guy who said this last night...:

"I have a mild, somewhat-of-a-passion for alternative/fringe theory as it relates to alternative historical hypothesis, but that does NOT include things like Bigfoot, UFOs, or Ancient Aliens."

Scotty seems to be skirting awful damn close to Ancient Aliens land by adopting their convoluted view on the Annunaki/Nephilim. Not entirely, mind you, but close. The devil really is in the detail in this case, I'm afraid.

Scotty tries to build an etymological argument, but fails to note that the names he uses are not Sumerian at all. Anu is the Akkadian form of the Sumerian An, Ea is the Babylonian form of Enki, and "Elil" can only be a typo as for Enlil as far as I can tell; the Sumerian Lexicon (free at sumerian.org) contains no such word, and the closest I can find is "elilum", meaning "to cry with joy".

By convoluting the names and languages themselves, it becomes a much more Sitchin-esque attempt at snowballing too much together with too little care.

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Salt link
2/27/2015 08:05:19 am

Ellil is the Akkadian for Enlil.

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Clint Knapp
2/27/2015 08:11:52 am

Well, there you go. He uses a typo form of a name that still isn't Sumerian.

Snarky
2/27/2015 09:06:45 am

I thought Elil was a prescription medicine for men that puts lead in your pencil.

EP
2/27/2015 08:06:22 am

It's funny you should mention Sitchin, since Scotty Roberts says this in his paper:

"In the vaguely historical, mostly pseudo-anthropological works of Zechariah Sitchin, the Anunnaki are space travelers who descended in linguistically forced 'fiery rockets'."

Scotty Roberts, oblivious to the irony of his own words, as always...

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Clint Knapp
2/27/2015 08:09:41 am

Yeah, I had a mention of that in the initial draft of the comment (I revise myself a lot) but somehow it got cut.

EP
2/27/2015 08:12:57 am

Speaking of revising, watch Scotty Roberts ninja edit his stupid paper in light of our mockery. Just like he he did with his Exodus Reality website.

EP
2/27/2015 07:39:52 am

Jason, you left out some of the best parts of Scotty's paper!

"Tuatha de Danaan are the basis for J.R.R. Tolkien’s tall, elegant, bright, shining Elven people of Lothlorien. Tolkien had his finger on the pulse of a shadowy history, and was more than obviously hailing to those historical roots."

"they were the descendants of the Black Sea princes of Scythia, now known as the Ukraine. Like the original dynastic Pharaohs, they traced their ancestry to the great Pendragons (note: Uther and Arthur Pendragon of the Arthurian legends) of Mesopotamia"

"In Merovingian legend, and in accordance with modern Reptilian mythos – these are the ancestral Euro-Semitic peoples who forged the bloodlines of the royal families of the Franks, as well as the royal houses of Europe’s history."

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Alaric
2/28/2015 01:04:17 am

I have to say, it's very rare for me to be reading comments on a blog and suddenly burst out laughing. I think it was "the great Pendragons of Mesopotamia" that pushed me over the edge.

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Only Me
2/27/2015 08:24:55 am

Before it's forgotten, RIP Leonard Simon Nimoy (March 26, 1931 – February 27, 2015).

"Live long and prosper."

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Lets LLAP
3/6/2015 09:40:15 am

http://www.shopllap.com/

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Dave Lewis
2/27/2015 09:11:02 am

I found this over at the Lovecraft Ezine:

http://lovecraftzine.com/2015/02/27/king-in-yellow-statue-now-available-for-sale/

It must be safe to look at because I didn't have an uncontrollable urge to scratch my eyes out.

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Only Me
2/27/2015 09:27:36 am

You're thinking more along the lines of "Le Roi au masque d'or" ("The king in the gold mask"), written by Marcel Schwob.

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InquisitorX
2/27/2015 09:59:40 am

It is interesting to note that, considering Scotty Roberts other racial based theories, the Tuatha de Dannan/Tribe of Dan idea appears where else? You got it!

British Israelitism- a racist movement.

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Patricio del Oro
6/10/2020 02:23:23 pm

Druidian, Drooze, Dravidian, Druidism, Judaism. Ireland’s language has Semitic roots. Christ may have been a composite of the Druid Esus, and Krishna. See Remains of Japheth and other philological studies on the Irish language. Britain was referred to as the land of Tin, where joseph of Arimethea most likely came from.

We speak of things like anti-Semitic, when I feel most don’t even understand what that even means. (This isn’t an attack on you, but noticing how potential truth may be tainted by this kind of thinking) Islam is called anti-Semitic at times, while also being Semitic. While on the topic, why don’t I hear about anti-japthism or anti-hamism?

Irish written language is called Ogham, or Og, a descendant of Japheth.

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Shane Sullivan
2/27/2015 10:44:15 am

"After a series of wars, it is said that the mythical Tuatha de Danann were defeated, and subsequently receded into the 'hollow hills,' eventually coming to be known as the Elven folk of Celtic lore."

The saddest part about this is that the laziest and most cursory google based research will tell you that elves are Germanic in origin, not Celtic.

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EP
2/27/2015 11:23:58 am

And by "Germanic" you surely mean "Reptilian"... :)

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Shane Sullivan
2/27/2015 12:16:35 pm

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/229/6/b/viking_lizard_kin_by_concheria-d6imefw.png

Kevin
2/27/2015 12:11:20 pm

After their defeat by the Milesians, the Tuatha de Danann were referred to as the Fear sidhee and Bean sidhee (men from under the hill and women from under the hill). In Gaelic, the "s" is pronounced as an "sh" and the "dh" is silent. These names have morphed in to fairies and banshees.

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EP
2/27/2015 12:47:33 pm

Funny you should mention it. Scotty Roberts wrote an illustrated an "anthropomorphized historical novel set in Tudor England, Ireland, and Scotland", which features fairies prominently, as you may read for yourself here:

http://www.tamohare.com/tamtext.html

While you're there, you may want to consider buying one of the original watercolors from the book for $300.

http://www.tamohare.com/art.html

It may sound like a lot of money, but it comes with a "signed letter of authenticity". You know, in case anyone ever accuses you of forging the art of Scotty Roberts.

Your comment suggests that Scotty Roberts may not have done enough research in writing his "anthropomorphized historical novel"...

Shane Sullivan
2/27/2015 03:59:39 pm

Yeah, that's basically the origin of the Aos Si. But, for the record, the word "fairy" comes from the Latin "fatum", or fate, not a Gaelic word.

Elves, on the other hand, are Germanic spirits, closely associated in the Eddas with Aesir and Vanir. Aside from being Indo-European in origin, they're unrelated to the Aos Si.

EP
2/27/2015 04:01:39 pm

Can we all just stop arguing and take a moment to admire Scotty's amthropomorphic art? :)

Shane Sullivan
2/27/2015 05:24:24 pm

Actually, EP, I like some of those illustrations. The perspective is a little skewed at times (how fitting!), but it really is the best thing I've seen Roberts' name attached to. I know you were joking in that deleted post, but I kind of wish he would stick to it.

EP
2/28/2015 04:51:10 am

Shane, I was joking in the sense that I was trying to be funny. However, I also believe that everything I said was literally true :)

And I agree with what you said. It's largely because this is one instance where Scotty's name doesn't come with Scotty attached. (Kinda like what Matt Mc, among others, has been saying about the "sizzle reel"...)

Christine Erikson link
2/27/2015 01:29:14 pm

doesn't matter what language a term is from, it is describing the same thing.

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The Other J.
2/28/2015 07:33:35 pm

One of the things that consistently baffles me is the way some researchers turn to linguistic analyses of Irish and Hebrew, but don't bother checking with, y'know, Irish or Hebrew speakers or scholars. I guess that would ruin the illusion.

I'd also hazard a guess the Irish have a much more complicated relationship with those mythical figures than Scotty Roberts does. There's a great anecdote by J.M. Synge when he went out to the Irish west in the late 19th century to collect folklore from Irish-speaking natives. He asked one old woman if she believed in the fairy folk, because people out there were organizing their lives around some of that folklore (like people do around religious beliefs). She insisted she didn't believe in the fairy folk, but that didn't mean they weren't there.

Remnants of that kind of folklore-organization still exist in Ireland today. Like if you sneeze, people rarely say "bless you" or anything like that. I was told it's because way back when, sneezes used to be blamed on fairy folk, and if you acknowledged what they did you were giving them permission to do more mischief. Later, when Christianity became the norm, that shifted to the devil making you sneeze, and no one blesses the devil. People don't believe in that stuff today, but they still don't say "bless you" or "gesundheit" after you sneeze, and if you say it to a sneezer, you might get a funny look.

The best Irish response I saw was by an old man at a grocery store who went up to a little girl having a sneezing fit and said "I can do that better than you!"

Now I usually just say "good one" if I say anything at all.

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Christine Erikson link
2/27/2015 01:28:03 pm

" The reason that the Tuatha De Danann appear as kings and queens is that their stories were rationalized and euhemerized by Christian monks, who only on occasion hint that the stories were originally told of divinities before being downgraded to mortals, much the way Euhemerus reduced the Greek gods to Eastern monarchs"

euhemerus being 4th century (500s) BC we can hardly blame anti poytheistic anti idolatry bias for his opinion. And/or old information he had access to. Some of the "gods" do read like likely human rulers later divinized and/or assimilated to previous deities, themselves either divinized mortals or perhaps god concepts or demons pretending to be gods. Given that Egyptian Pharoahs were
considered to be gods, this is not entirely unreasonable.

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Mandalore
2/28/2015 02:44:21 am

Sorry to nitpick, but the 4th century BC was the 300's. Euhemerus was writing in a period of philosophical exploration and categorization of the world alongside Plato, Aristotle, and others.

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EP
2/28/2015 05:29:13 am

It is worth stressing that the man who wrote this terrible article wants you to pay $4000 (plus cost of round trip to Dublin) for a 10-day tour of ancient Irish sites he's organizing.

Such lack of professionalism is par for the course with Scotty Roberts. Just check out the itinerary of the tour:

http://www.exodusreality.com/ireland2015.html

Never seen such poor writing in my life. And this time, I'm not going to help Scotty out by mocking his specific blunders.

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Patricio
6/10/2020 02:15:54 pm

Ok, but who here has looked into this? The Irish language has literally hundreds of words that match those of Hebrew and other Semitic languages. I’ve personally traced two “lost tribes”, Judah and Dan to Ireland. I have a rabbi which backs me up in this. Yair Davidi.

From what I’ve gathered, history has indeed been corrupted, misinformation runs rampant, logical fallacies run abound, and there are still hundreds, if not thousands, of architectural structures that are still pretty much unexplained to how they got there. I can even prove to you through base-10 mathematics and spherical math why every location is where it is, utilizing a major location as the key. My issue with this writing are sources and citing. It’s simply said, “such and such debunked this”, or just sheer use of preposterousness because something may be stranger than what we’re told or taught.

I’m a son of a best selling historical writer, I am regularly cited in various academic circles and have been lucky enough to explore many of these subjects in depth. Quantum thought states that we create reality, which leaves the door open to... well anything really. A bit off topic but see the “double slit experiment”, which adds a very interesting layer to reality.

That being said, I do believe that reality is very much, Stranger than Fiction.

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