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Scotty Roberts on Eve's Secret Reptilian Descendants

11/27/2013

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Sometimes I imagine a parallel world where, for whatever reason, the Roman Empire never adopted Christianity and the world moved forward with Classical paganism. Would we today be plagued with Olympian fundamentalists searching atop Mount Parnassus for Deucalion’s chest? Would we be facing controversy over whether to include in textbooks the Promethean account of creating mankind from clay in a single-sex world until the arrival of Pandora? Would internet posters be complaining that mainstream academics refuse to admit the reality of the Heroic giants? The Babylonian priest Berosus told us that even before Christians started hunting for Noah’s Ark on Mt. Ararat, the Babylonians had already made a tourist attraction of the site where Utnapishtim’s (a.k.a. Xisithrus’) Ark had had supposedly come to rest. Things don’t change that much.

This is sort of the long way around introducing a bizarre piece written by our friend Scotty Roberts, organizer of the Paradigm Symposium, in his Intrepid magazine. Father Jack Ashcraft, who was featured in the August edition of Intrepid, directed me to the story. I was frankly flabbergasted by the combination of pseudoscience, outlandish claims, and journalistic sins incorporated into such a short piece. It begins inauspiciously with some rather unusual writing:

Taking a biblical story and dissecting it to lay bare all the internal organs and skeletal structure is a meticulously important process necessary in an understanding of ancient culture. Simply said, the Bible, for all of its gloriously revered tales of Jehovah God and his interactions with his human creation, spawning three of the world’s major religions, is a source point for understanding the ancient anthropology of humanity. Depending on your view of the veracity of biblical scripture, there is no shadow of doubt that it’s [sic] pages reveal stories, accounts, myths, legends and fables that mirror – or are mirrored by – a plethora of cultures in the ancient world. The importance of the bible, if not for faith and practice, is to see it as a book that demonstrates another facet of events as experienced and recounted by ancient mankind.

This paragraph sounds like it says something, but it really doesn’t. What is the “ancient culture” of the first sentence? I suppose it must be the Israelites, since the Bible won’t do much to help understand the Teotihuacan people. The Bible is “a” source for understanding ancient history, but then so are Greek mythology, the Indian Vedas, and Native American oral traditions. The final sentence is true for any ancient text.

Try this overwritten, content-free sentence about the Bible as infallible authority on for size:

While that may or may not be true, it is clear that when one takes a step back from the text of the bible, removing the sometimes rose-colored glasses of dogma and systematic theology, you can start to read between the lines and see, as it were, the vastness of the world flickering between the slats as you walk along the perimeter fence of one of the world’s most holiest of books.

The editor in me is tempted to begin crossing out unnecessary words, but I don’t think anything would be left other than a cliché. The whole article is rife with extraneous words, overwriting, misspellings, and incorrect word choices. (Not that I’m one to talk about spelling errors, but then again I don’t run a magazine.) In places, it makes it hard to understand what Roberts is trying to say since the precision of his point vanishes amidst the verbiage. For example, he discusses “Hebrew linguistics” when I believe he means to refer to the “original Hebrew text.”

All of this comes by way of introducing the old saw about the origins of Cain’s wife and whether Cain was having sex with his own relatives or whether there was a separate creation outside of Eden. Roberts asserts that when Genesis 4:17 states that Cain built a city and named it for his son Enoch, we can then read this as Uruk because of philology, though Uruk is typically identified with the Biblical Erech. That said, the identification is an old one, going back to A. H. Sayce’s Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion from 1887, where he identified the two sites not through Roberts’ attempt to change “n” to “r” but by identifying Enoch with Uruk’s Sumerian name, transliterated from the cuneiform as Unuk or Unug. This only seems close when we use the English spelling of Enoch; his Hebrew name, Hanokh, is not really so close. Some scholars such as Oxford scholar Stephanie Dalley consider that a scribal change has misattributed the building of the city to Cain when it was originally Enoch, whose son was Irad, the apparent namesake of Eridu. (Dalley, however, is prone to revisionist history: She proposed a poorly-received idea that the Hanging Gardens were based in Nineveh.)

None of this is relevant to the purpose of the article, which this far in is still not clear.

Roberts next introduces Carl Sagan’s early speculation that ancient visitations by extraterrestrials could be possible (as they remain possible but utterly without proof) in order to justify interest in whether aliens were responsible for the events of Genesis. To do so, he introduces creationist talking points that have no basis in reality, beginning with the utterly fake claim that the “missing link” is still missing—as though all the many ancient humanlike beings from the past were there merely for decoration:

So what scientists are doing, in all reality, is simply incorporating exponential leaps of faith to fill in the gaps. In a sense, science is creating a mythology of it’s [sic] very own in that it uses the human imagination to fill in the gaps in the theorized sequence of human ascendancy from primates into higher levels of sapiens.

He further asserts that humans and apes share no “95%” of their DNA but only a “woeful” 67% of their DNA, which is an utter misunderstanding of recent scientific research, which finds that while humans and non-human primates share more than 90% of their DNA, “transcription factor binding and histone modifications were identical in over 67% of regulatory elements in DNA segments that are regarded as promoter regions.” In other words, while the DNA is the same, each species expresses its genes using somewhat different mechanisms.

From his mistaken view of evolution and DNA research, Roberts suggests that “visitors from another world” supplied the variant DNA that makes humans human.

Roberts next tries to make the case that the serpent of Genesis was an alien who had sex with Eve in order to insert alien DNA into her bloodline. (And here we all thought that was what the Nephilim were up to!) To do so, he refers to the Hebrew word for serpent, nachash, which he claims means “magician” or “sorcerer.” While conventional dictionaries define the word as serpent, it derives from a verb associated with divination through the common root of “to hiss” or “to whisper.” Soothsayers hissed their prophecies and snakes, well their hissing ought to be obvious. Instead, Roberts takes this as evidence that the serpent was no snake but rather a magical extraterrestrial.

He finds variant definitions for each word in the Genesis account of the temptation of Eve, turning the “fruit” of the tree into “offspring” (i.e. fruit of the womb), “eating” as “having sex with a woman” and “touching” as “having sex with a woman.” (His definitions specify male penetrative action rather than female receptive sexual congress.) He wants us to then read the passage as referring to a sexual encounter.

Now while we are to take literally the temptation of Eve as sexual intercourse with a snake, Roberts next asserts were are to take symbolically the Tree of Knowledge, which he searches Hebrew dictionaries to relate to the use of the Hebrew word for tree as synecdoche for a door, thus creating for him a “portal” to—and I am not making this up—“the pre-Adamic races” of “the Atlantean civilization.”

Good luck proving Atlantis existed.

He then translates “pleasing to the eye” as “desirable,” “desired” as “lust,” and “took” as “marry.”

But when we plug in the new definitions into Genesis 3:6-7, it just doesn’t work right:

Original: “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

Revised: “For God knows that when you have sex with a woman your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” When the woman saw that the offspring of the trans-dimensional portal to Atlantis were good for food and desirable, and also lusty for gaining wisdom, she married some (offspring) and had sex with a woman. She also gave some (offspring) to her husband, who was with her, and he had sex with a woman.

I have followed Roberts’ rules for word-substitutions exactly. If you see in it what Roberts claims, all the better for you:

What really happened in this scene in the Garden of Eden is that Eve, the mother of humanity, lost her virginity to the Serpent, as you can see that she encountered him sexually before ever having sex with her husband, Adam. And further down the passage, the text is implicit that Eve was impregnated by this encounter.

I imagine he’s hoping that we utterly ignore the surrounding language, context, and grammar and render the passage something like this:

“For God knows that when you have sex your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” When the woman saw that the offspring born of enlightenment were greatly to be desired, and she lusted to gain carnal wisdom, she took the serpent as a mate. She also came on to husband, who was with her, and he had sex with her as well, impregnating her a second time, so she was great with serpent-seed and his own.

Note very carefully the dark implication of this revisionist history: that there are two divergent “bloodlines,” one human and the other alien, and that these bloodlines can therefore justify differential power structures in which some humans are genetically distinct from others and therefore are either more or less (depending on your perspective) worthy than others. This idea that there is an elite civilizing group who are genetically distinct from the rest of humanity is deeply disturbing.

Roberts asserts that this serpent-born bloodline are the same as the fish-man Oannes (no, Roberts fails to understand the complex development of his myth, which did not originally feature any fish-people) and wise dragons—all “reptilians,” from the mythology of David Icke. He further asserts that the Sumerians developed civilization 6,000 years ago (“virtually overnight”) in order to record the explosion of Vela X into a supernova. Roberts claims—against all evidence—that the very first word recorded in Sumerian cuneiform was the word for “star god.”

His claim rests on the work of George Michanowsky, whom he falsely identifies as a “specialist in Mesopotamian astronomy.” Michanowsky was an archaeologist who conducted research in Bolivia, where he saw rock carvings he linked to the Vela X supernova. Michanowsky fell down the rabbit hole and quickly decided in The Once and Future Star (1977) that this single event was responsible for archaeological phenomena worldwide, including records of the event on Sumerian tablets dating back 6,000 years. (This would actually place them in the proto-literate period, before writing is known to have emerged c. 3300 BCE.) He asserted that Atlantis was real, was also the Isles of the Blessed before Noah’s Flood, known as Nidukki to the Sumerians as well as the later Dilmun, the paradise where Utnapishtim sits immortal.

Michanowsky was not an expert in Mesopotamian languages, and his identification of Nidukki with Dilmun derives from Sir Henry Rawlinson’s identification of the same back in the 1880s. Rawlinson correctly placed Nidukki and Dilmun in Bahrain; the Dilmun of myth as the land of farthest east probably preceded the application of the name to the real territory of Bahrain, much the way the Greeks ascribed mythological names to new lands they discovered.

In fact, Michaenowsky’s claim is so discredited that even David Childress, in Lost Cities of Atlantis, etc. (1996), didn’t believe it—and he believes everything.

If you’re curious, Roberts’ passage on Michanowsky is taken nearly verbatim and without citation from an article published by Brad Steiger, who is no paragon of scholarly virtue. Compare the two passages and see the amazing similarity:

ROBERTS

George Michanowsky, a specialist in Mesopotamian astronomy, then demonstrated how that first word ever written by a human hand was soon after linked to the symbol for “deity,” communicating the thought, “star god.” In the blink of an eye, the Sumerians gave humanity the first love song, the first school system, the first directory of pharmaceutical concoctions, a law code, and the first parliament.

STEIGER

Literally "overnight" in evolutionary terms, the Sumerians gave the world a law code, the first love song, the first school system, the first parliament, and the first directory of pharmaceutical remedies. […]  George Michanowsky, a specialist in Mesopotamian astronomy, saw how the very first and most fundamental symbol of Sumerian script was one which represented "star." He went on to show how the first word ever written by a human soon became linked with the symbol for "deity," thus communicating "star god."

More passages exactly coincide between the two writers, and Roberts appears to derive his ideas about the guiding force behind history—the reptilians—from the same source Steiger was writing about: Rudolf Steiner, the ex-theosophist who rewrote Blavatsky’s Theosophy. This is ironic, of course, because Steiner not only embraced the same Darwinism that Roberts rejects in favor of aliens, but also thought that all consciousness was merely the product of evolution! A consequence of this was Steiner’s belief, echoed in the idea of “dual bloodlines” that certain races were inherently more spiritually developed, while others were doomed to degeneracy, unless the individual, through force of will, escaped that fate. Of course for him the white race was the pinnacle of evolution.

Fringe history is a kaleidoscope, taking the same few fragments of borrowed ideas and constantly rearranging them into “endless forms most beautiful,” or at least most profitable.
12 Comments
Erik G
11/27/2013 06:24:11 am

Re: your first sentence, Jason... "Roma Eterna" by Robert Silverberg (2003) presents us with such a world. Intelligent, amusing, and strangely plausible. Excellent SF. If you haven't read it already, give it a try. It makes far more sense than the Scotty Roberts piece. But then, nearly everything else would.

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Scott Hamilton
11/27/2013 06:41:17 am

My favorite Roberts phrase has to be "ancient anthropology of humanity." Just trying to unpack that could take days! Does he mean anthropology engaged in by ancient humans? Or does he specify "of humanity" because he's actually referring to aliens engaging in the anthropological study of humans? So many possibilities!

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Shane Sullivan
11/27/2013 07:30:22 am

Maybe he means ancient humans engaging in the anthropological study of modern humans, by divining the future through probabilistic computations.

Which, y'know, they got from the aliens.

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Fr. Ashcraft link
11/28/2013 05:56:28 am

It is worth noting that the "Christian Identity" groups throughout the world (a pseudo-Christian sect of racists) employ this exact same line of thought to conclude the Jews are the offspring of Satan, and thus inferior to the "white race" and evil by nature. Granted Roberts is attempting to cleanse the absurd ideology of its racial elements, but one cannot so easily distance such an idea from its source.

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The Other J.
11/28/2013 06:01:32 pm

"Sometimes I imagine a parallel world where, for whatever reason, the Roman Empire never adopted Christianity and the world moved forward with Classical paganism."

If such a world existed, I really question whether it would have the same problems with literalist takes on its myths, or if such a society would grow and develop with the understanding that its myths were figurative representations meant to help us understand the world and human affairs in it.

I don't know of any proof of this one way or the other (and I've written this same hypothesis in these comments before), but my sense is ancient people never took their stories as fixed historical truth like so many of our current fundamentalists. To do so would limit the stories' function and utility. Take Egyptian Pharaohs; if each successive Pharaoh was meant to be god, the population must have understood their myths weren't literal, they were metaphorical. Otherwise they'd face a crisis in cognitive dissonance each time their god died and returned in the form of another guy who wasn't god the day before. Either god is now gone with the Pharaoh, or god the Pharaoh is really "god the Pharaoh," and the entire thing is a kind of socio-political theater that serves a useful function.

Robert M. Price has described something similar with regard to a scholar who was visiting a remote Greek village during Easter (back in the 19th century, I believe). In that area, older pre-Christian fertility rituals that occurred around the same time as Easter had been absorbed into the Easter celebration. After the the day Jesus was meant to die, the women in the village held a procession down the main street where they cried and wailed and pulled at their hair and clothes. When the scholar asked one of the women why they were crying so hard, the woman replied 'If Jesus doesn't rise in three days, the crops won't grow.' They understood they were participating in a kind of ritual social theater, but nevertheless participated fully. That doesn't mean they actually believed their crops wouldn't grow -- they understood that the figure Jesus was meant to have died 2000 years before and was already meant to have ascended to heaven. But they also seemed to understand that religion was more about creating a framework for social organization and direction than it was about the truth or falsity of its stories.

So who knows, maybe if the world was still pagan, in today's industrialized, scientific world, there would be throw-backs who would be looking for archaeological evidence of the Labors of Hercules. Or maybe chemists and physicists would also be part-time priests at shrines, because their scientific minds weren't concerned with rationalizing metaphors that weren't meant to be taken as fact in the first place.

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Varika
11/29/2013 06:17:02 pm

Given that there are those in the modern pagan community who do, in fact, indulge in the same sort of literalist thinking, I personally feel we would, in fact, have the same issues. I think we would have these issues because how people think and believe wouldn't be different, only WHAT they believe.

"Either god is now gone with the Pharaoh, or got the Pharaoh is really 'god the Pharaoh'..."

Due respects, but I don't see how this would have been an "either/or" situation. Rather, I think it's fairly clear that ancient peoples with this type of system--the god-king system--understood more that the mortal host body of the god died and the god then took a new vessel, who had been human but was now the god. It was about migration of soul, not of physical matter.

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The Other J.
11/29/2013 10:22:07 pm

Regarding the first point, I don't think we have any evidence to suggest that modern pagan communities are actually reiterating ancient pagan practices rather than reacting to current religious practices through a pagan angle. In other words, modern pagans could very well take their faith as literal since they were brought up in a "literalness of faith" paradigm. And since most modern pagan practices aren't that old at all, it's not clear to me that modern pagans are actually participating in ancient practices, or that ancient pagans would in fact be acting like modern literalist religious fundamentalists in Gandalf robes.

Regarding the second point, I have a hard time believing that people were so dim as to just accept transmigration of the soul and ignore any political attitudes or plans that the new god-king brought with him to the throne. If the soul has migrated to a new body, then that soul would also bring with it its own godly intentions and plans. But if I'm an ancient Egyptian slurping on my bread beer and see this guy who wants to be Pharaoh and wants to build a monument to himself, and then somehow he becomes Pharaoh and gets to building that monument, I don't think I'd just forget that before that dude was a god he wanted to build that monument to himself. Instead, it'd seem pretty clear to me that the dude is using his god status to justify his human intentions.

I don't see how thousands of years of successive god-kings could all just be blindly accepted like that, and I don't believe ancient people were that thick; at least some people must have bought into it consciously as a kind of socio-political theater, just like the women in that Greek village. Perhaps most. I would think that by not accepting the godhood migration as literal, it makes the transition of power easier to accept. When god-king status is accepted as a useful legal fiction (for lack of a better term), it would make the transition of power easier and more stable than having a sectarian crisis of "that guy can't be god!" each time the next Pharaoh dies.The longevity and relative stability of the Egyptian empire alone suggests more stable transfers of power, which to me suggests that acceptance of a legal fiction, rather than blind literal faith that could get in the way of those transfers of power.

Hell, I'm not even certain people of Judaeo-Christian-Islamic faith have always accepted their traditions as literally true. I've know monks today who don't and observant Jews who accept archaeology that counters the bible. And I've known Hindus who certainly don't accept their tradition as literally true. They're good critical thinkers, but I don't think they're historically unique in their critical thinking capacity. We ain't that special.

Fr. Ashcraft link
11/29/2013 11:45:03 am

Mr. Roberts claims that the article comes from his previous book on Nephilim, for which I wrote the forward. I must point out that I did not read the entirety of his book, but only the incomplete parts provided to me by the author. Just as I also wrote the forward to his newest book before I had knowledge of his co-author. My mistake was not being more prudent with whom I trust and speak in favor of. If I knew then what I knew now, I would NEVER have written a word in support of either book.

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7/15/2014 08:09:00 pm

Here is the testimonial that Father Jack Ashcraft wrote for my book, "The Secret History of the Reptilians: The Pervasive Presence of the Serpent in Human History, Religion and Alien Mythos."

"Scott Alan Roberts has done every Christian a service by bringing together the myths of various cultures and religions surrounding the figure of the serpent, coupling them with the UFO phenomena, and posing very serious questions regarding the origins of faith, the veracity of Sacred Scripture, and the nature of spiritual and temporal reality. This book isn't just another “ancient alien” offering, with the usual evidences and conclusions drawn, but a tapestry of religious, archaeological and cultural information designed to challenge not only the easy answers of faith, but the entrenched sanctity of the science of anthropology. Whether one agrees with his analysis of the plethora of information presented or not is irrelevant. The fact is he presents a case that theologians must be prepared to answer."

Fr. Jack Ashcraft Byzantine Catholic Priest


* * *

As for Ashcraft's writing of the forward to John Ward's and my book, "The Exodus Reality: Unearthing the Real Moses, Identifying the Pharaohs and Examining the Exodus from Egypt," the good Father was fully aware of that John Ward was my co-author. Ashcraft was given the FULL manuscript, in advance of his writing the foreword.

Several times I have seen Jack deny having any knowledge that John Ward was my co-author, yet in that foreword, Jack Ashcraft wrote:

"Indeed it appears from the traditions of Judaism that there is much we do not know about Moses, and by proxy the Exodus. Scotty Roberts and Dr. John Ward present herein two different theories with regard to the figure of Moses and the Exodus. Theories which Christians and Jews alike should examine with an honest and open mind, not leaving faith at the door, but allowing for a mature faith that embraces historical evidences that, while perhaps not found within the sacred texts of our respective religions, may provide more answers for us, even as extra-biblical texts such as the Midrash do. In the end we may find that our faith is advanced, our embrace of the truths of our religions bolstered, and our sense of their place in human history vindicated."

Fr. Jack Ashcraft, OSBM
Byzantine Catholic Priest

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Fr. Jack Ashcraft link
7/16/2014 04:42:16 am

I've never denied having written those passages, Mr. Roberts. In fact, I made a VERY public apology and recanted for having done so. While you sent me manuscripts, they were not yet complete as you were very much still in the editing process. Also, and I admit this to my own shame, I failed to read the manuscript sent to me. At that time I thought of you as a friend and trusted you. That was a mistake of catastrophic proportions. Add to this the fact that the information I subsequently found out about your associate Mr. Ward was not available to me before the publication of your second book and you have a situation wherein I was far too trusting and a but gullible in assuming the best from your research.

Your position on Moses is one I disagree with, but that is hardly the most egregious of your literary and theological heresy. Nor is it something I would argue much over as it is a non-issue. The essential problem is with your theology of eugenics. I most certainly and categorically deny I knew that before the publication of your first book, and had you told me I would have warned you of the racist connections at that time. I still maintain that you've done Christians a favor in writing that book. We have therein an excellent example of Christian Identity racial theology. In examining it we can better refute your racial assertions made therein.

Again, I publicly recanted and apologized for ever having written anything in support of you or your dubious work. I did so as far back as November of 2013, when after repeated attempts to address the issues with you and being called names in return, I finally gave up. Here is the original post wherein I recanted and apologized for lending you any support: http://www.trueexorcist.com/2013/11/the-exodus-reality-academic-reality.html

Your attempt to drag me into the mire of your error with you doesn't work, Mr. Roberts. I've been open and honest regarding the above. Now, rather than defelect and obfuscate, perhaps you can explain why you see no problem promoting a theology with obvious racist connections and implications.

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star trek fan goto ----> BREAD AND CIRCUSES
11/22/2014 09:32:26 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_Circuses_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series)

"Bread and Circuses" is a second season episode of the original American science fiction television series Star Trek, broadcast on March 15, 1968. It is episode #54, production #43, written by Gene Roddenberry and Gene L. Coon and directed by Ralph Senensky. Its name is a reference to the phrase "bread and circuses" taken from the Satire X written by the poet, Juvenal. In modern usage, the phrase implies a populace that no longer values civic virtues, the public life, and military (manly) service; instead, the people need only food and entertainment.

Set in the 23rd century, the series follows the adventures of Captain James T. Kirk (William Shatner) and the crew of the Federation starship Enterprise. In this episode, Captain Kirk and his companions are forced to fight in gladiatorial games on a planet resembling the Roman Empire, that possesses mid-20th century Earth technology.

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JASON COLAVITO ---Sometimes I imagine a parallel world where, for whatever reason, the Roman Empire never adopted Christianity and the world moved forward with Classical paganism. Would we today be plagued with Olympian fundamentalists searching atop Mount Parnassus for Deucalion’s chest? Would we be facing controversy over whether to include in textbooks the Promethean account of creating mankind from clay in a single-sex world until the arrival of Pandora? Would internet posters be complaining that mainstream academics refuse to admit the reality of the Heroic giants? The Babylonian priest Berosus told us that even before Christians started hunting for Noah’s Ark on Mt. Ararat, the Babylonians had already made a tourist attraction of the site where Utnapishtim’s (a.k.a. Xisithrus’) Ark had had supposedly come to rest. Things don’t change that much.

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a critic
11/22/2014 09:41:16 am

Jason's opening paragraph is brilliant and brings to mind
the Trek episode S2 from 1968. Rome's infamous BREAD
AND CIRCUSES. the reptiod quasi-factiods in the next few
paragraphs dance around the idea that we have dormant
DNA sequences from more than 70 million years ago, and
an epigenome with its "toggle" switches that programs us
in a manner not unlike IBM punch cards in a computer with
more of a capacity than ENIAC or BRAINIAC. We have very
warm blooded reptile brains above our spines. Is SATAN our
raw instinctual impulses that sit above our spine and below
our two "upper" brains that evolution has fused into one
organic holistic continuity? our lobes + neurons etc????

is genesis literal or metaphor? back to poor capt'n kirk in '68!

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