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Semir Osmanagic Claims Bosnian "Pyramids" Can Communicate with Aliens Through Faster-Than-Light Waves

3/4/2017

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​My modem died. The modem had been getting inconsistent in its performance and needed to be reset with increasing frequency, and then it died completely. So, I had to waste part of the day swapping it out and setting up a new wi-fi network. The bad news is that I lost several work hours, but the good news is that my new wi-fi network is faster and stronger. But since I am behind schedule, my blog post today will have to be a bit shorter than usual. 
​I thought I’d talk a bit today about the recent article in The Express that reports on, and critiques, Semir Osmanagić’s new claims that his magical Bosnian pyramids now provide the secret to Nikola Tesla’s alleged communication with space aliens. Well, the latter claim is more of the Express’s interpretation, but it’s not far from what Osmanagić intended.
 
Writing in his native tongue in the magazine of Radio Bosnia, Osmanagić alleged that high atop the natural formations that he mistakes for pyramids, he has discovered energy that moves faster than the speed of light, which Tesla had said could be used to communicate with other planets. He calls this energy “standing waves.” As translated in the Express, he said:
The discovery of Tesla’s standing waves at the top of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun— which are believed to travel faster than the speed of light, while not losing strength as they pass through cosmic bodies—prove the existence of something referred to as a cosmic web or cosmic internet which allow for a[n] immediate intergalactic communication throughout the universe. […] The pyramids are energy boosters that send and receive information through the Sun.
​I’m guessing that beneath the translation issues we are actually talking about Tesla’s hypothesized “stationary waves” or “non-Hertzian waves,” which he claimed were immune from the inverse-square law. As Tesla put it, 
​That electrical energy can be economically transmitted without wires to any terrestrial distance, I have unmistakably established in numerous observations, experiments and measurements, qualitative and quantitative. These have demonstrated that it is practicable to distribute power from a central plant in unlimited amounts, with a loss not exceeding a small fraction of one per cent, in the transmission, even to the greatest distance, twelve thousand miles — to the opposite end of the globe.
​Now, I’m sure you noticed that these waves aren’t described as crossing the cosmos. This is apparently related to Tesla’s 1900 claim to have picked up alien radio signals on one of his wireless devices. By the 1930s, this grew into a surprising claim, reported in the New York Times: “I have devoted much of my time during the year past to the perfecting of a new small and compact apparatus by which energy in considerable amounts can now be flashed through interstellar space to any distance without the slightest dispersion” (July 11, 1937). Thus, you can see how the various claims became conflated into the idea that space aliens and Tesla could communicate with Tesla’s wireless technology.
 
Osmanagić did not say Tesla was in touch with the aliens, but he does believe that the pyramids were.
 
According to our author, the Bosnian pyramids prove Tesla right, but that’s not all. He also alleged that a conspiracy is at work to prevent this information from getting out. I adapt here a machine translation, since I unfortunately do not speak Bosnian:
My research and arguments that pyramids were built worldwide, and that the earliest pyramids are also superior to later ones, has led to a situation where Egyptologists have created a wall of hostility toward me. My assertion that the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun is the oldest pyramid in the world brought about opposition from the most influential Egyptologist in the world, Zahi Hawass, which for many years prevented us from gaining access to the world’s leading scientific TV channels. (emphasis in original)
I guess that would be the History Channel, where Osmanagić often holds court on shows like Ancient Aliens. Osmanagić went on to blast “Darwinism” and to argue that human civilization is the product of space aliens. “Life originated from an intervention on our planet, a type of long term alteration through experiments where evolution played a minor role, and Homo sapiens is the result of genetic engineering. And, of course, we are neither the first nor the most advanced civilization in the history of the planet.” He added that pyramids are the “most powerful” geometric shape, and that the Bosnian pyramids are on magic lines connecting world volcanoes.
 
I regret that since I do not have a command of Bosnian, I can’t translate his mathematical claims about the faster-than-light energy, but perhaps a physicist will be able to look at his claims and evaluate whether he truly discovered the first ever documented proof of faster-than-light information transfer. If that were really the case, I have a feeling it wouldn’t be first reported in Radio Bosnia.
 
But I think the takeaway here is that Osmanagić is a full-on ancient astronaut theorist, and his Slavic nationalist agenda has merged with the weird fringe obsession with Tesla and the widespread disgruntlement with evolutionary theory into an all-encompassing 360° fringe worldview.
25 Comments
Ralf Buelow
3/4/2017 12:19:04 pm

Osmanagic refers to a German professor, Konstantin Meyl, who invented some strange theories, see
http://www.meyl.eu/go/index.php?dir=10_Home&page=1&sublevel=0
Note that you are free to teach crazy things in a German university or polytechnic school; it is covered by the freedom of science principle.

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At Risk
3/4/2017 12:58:58 pm

"...Tesla’s 1900 claim to have picked up alien radio signals on one of his wireless devices."

Perhaps this would be akin to later aircraft controllers' screens picking up "UFO's" darting all about, in scientifically impossible ways.

But, maybe this is a mild ideomotor-seeming interplay from the spiritual world, as another example of unexplained connections between the seen and unseen worlds. Were unseen spirit beings (demons) busy with this kind of mischief back in 1900, by giving false alien radio signals on Tesla's wireless device?

I'm merely being controversial here by suggesting that demon spirits can likely give off false and illusionary interplays, sometimes bewildering science.

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A Buddhist
3/4/2017 02:27:35 pm

If you attribute all that you cannot explain and do not like to demons, then you will not much expand your knowledge an understanding of the world.

Better to leave extraordinary explanations as a last resort.

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Americanegro
3/4/2017 05:00:33 pm

On the bright side, the mystery of the stoneholes is finally solved. Demons.

A Buddhist
3/4/2017 06:15:58 pm

Americanegro:

No, because to At Risk, the stone holes are good. Only evil or non-Christian matters he seems to attribute to demons.

Fawkes
3/4/2017 07:49:11 pm

I guess that means Jesus made the stoneholes then, unless stoneholes are somehow inherently evil that we don't understand yet.

Americanegro
3/4/2017 08:11:11 pm

A.B. You stepped on the punch. Please don't help. I'm workin' here!

A Buddhist
3/4/2017 08:31:36 pm

Fawkes:

If At Risk be a Christian for whom there is little or no free will, then who knows? Maybe Jesus created the holes using Norse explorers as agents.

At Risk: You keep suggesting that the plausibility of the journey recounted on the KS is a piece of evidence that it happened. But surely there is another explanation: the person who created the fictional narrative wanted it to be plausible, whether for nefarious or artistic reasons. Since there is so little evidence of Norse settlement or exploration in that part of the world, my explanation has increased explanatory power compared to a situation in which there were evidence of Norse exploration of the interior.

Fawkes
3/4/2017 11:19:55 pm

I prefer to think of a workman style Jesus out there in the Midwest with a hammer drill just going to town on some rocks. No Norse middle man, just Jesus making a ton of holes. Maybe he even stops to take a smoke break every now and then.

At least that was the picture I was painting in my head.

Jim
3/5/2017 08:40:49 am

Surely, and these demons, if they could give false alien radio signals Imagine the fun they could have with ferrous only metal detectors !!!

At Risk
3/5/2017 10:56:16 am

"The fun questions are the ones we can't yet answer!"
- Sean Carroll, "Out There" columnist, Discover Magazine

"Exploration is an obession. The more I discover, the more I want to know!" - Meave Leakey

"The most absurd and reckless aspirations have sometimes led to extraordinary success." - Vauvenargues


"Il faut aller voir!"

Fawkes
3/5/2017 01:33:18 pm

The problem is you start with an answer.

Only Me
3/4/2017 01:14:23 pm

That means Osmanagić believes his "pyramids" are ancient modems emitting subspace signals. So, how exactly is this possible using stone? I suppose it relates back to his claim of water flowing under the "pyramid" activates the quartz crystal in his "megaliths" via the release of "negative ions".

There's the answer for you, Jason. Why rely on lousy modern technology when you can have a pyramid for the fastest, most reliable Internet on the planet...and beyond?

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Clint Knapp
3/5/2017 12:19:25 am

Therein lies the problem: Pyramids require aliens to build them.

We simple humans can only hope to create networks of infinitely complex circuits in ever-shrinking scales impressed on silicon wafers and powered by that pesky electricity thing.

Jason's wifi network simply has no hope of tapping into the great space-magic ISP without alien intervention, and he's spent too much time denying their greatness to receive any aid.

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Dubious f
3/4/2017 01:17:27 pm

Osmanagić’s claims have nothing to do with science principles. For one, how can you review by peers a quackery of a sham, Tesla or not....
If only we could put the hill in the hadron collider and prove it's just a f**g rock, we could start having reprieve from these nobody loons. Fascinating how we can spend hours on stupid stuff, probably focusing us out of the real scary issues...

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Shane Sullivan
3/4/2017 01:32:42 pm

I never went to college, but given what Semir Osmanagic was allowed to present as his doctoral dissertation, I'm pretty sure I would have done well.

http://www.semirosmanagic.com/en/maya.html

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Irna
3/4/2017 01:38:53 pm

Hi Jason, do you actually need a translation of his claims? Of course that's just a mumbo-jumbo of scientific-sounding words without any significance... Anyway, if you wish a translation of a specific part, let me know :)

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Americanegro
3/4/2017 05:06:54 pm

"Aujourd'hui, mon modem est mort..."

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The Curator
3/4/2017 05:51:07 pm

Ou peut-être hier, je ne sais pas.

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A Buddhist
3/4/2017 08:36:31 pm

Rem non intelligo.

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Americanegro
3/4/2017 10:33:24 pm

Vide supra.

Mark
3/4/2017 05:44:27 pm

>I regret that since I do not have a command of Bosnian, I can’t
>translate his mathematical claims about the faster-than-light
>energy, but perhaps a physicist will be able to look at his
>claims and evaluate whether he truly discovered the first ever
>documented proof of faster-than-light information transfer.

I'm a professional mathematician, so I figured I might as well take a crack at it. Unfortunately, I don't speak Bosnian either, and the machine translation seemed to be especially bad when they were talking about technical stuff. Also, I'm not a specialist in electromagnetics, though I know the basics.

I'm going to ignore the stuff about standing waves and Tesla and how the big bang is a hoax. That's fundamentally a side issue. The real question is, is the Bosnian pyramid doing anything interesting, physics-wise? If the answer is yes, we can reexamine the other stuff as a possible explanation.

As far as I can tell, what they did is they equipped a drone with an EMF meter and flew it around the pyramid. They picked up an electric field of either 156 or 150 "mV" - the translation's unclear - which they claim had geometric structure. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what mV is supposed to mean; electric field is usually measured in Volts/meter, so I'm going to assume that's what he meant, but it's really not clear.

The thing is - and I'm sure we all saw this coming - the Earth's electric field varies between about 100 and 200 V/m on a clear day. See, for example:

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10712-012-9210-2

(I'm using that link because, although it's a historical survey, it displays a graph of the Carnegie Curve labeled with volts/meter, whereas most modern scientific papers I've seen use % of mean.)

So, in terms of raw quantity, this is completely normal. Whether there's anything to the claims the field exhibits a geometric structure, I can't tell, due to the quality of the translation, but I doubt it.

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Fawkes
3/4/2017 07:52:49 pm

I was also wondering about the units but decided not to look into or worry about. Maybe they had an instrument that they were measuring voltage on and we're reading mV millivolts is what I thought. Lots of things will give you an output as voltage.

I just assumed they were using some sort of instrument they didn't understand and couldn't really explain what it was doing.

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Mark
3/4/2017 08:00:35 pm

I think they might have originally written mV^{-1}, but the exponent didn't make it through the Radio Bosnia website's formatting. If it's actually milliVolts, that strongly suggests they did something _very_ badly wrong with their instruments. Which, really, wouldn't surprise me at all...

Marcus
3/7/2017 04:55:24 am

.. wouldn't the "most powerful" geometric solid be a triangular pyramid, and not a square-based one?

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