Somehow, the January "Conspira-Sea" Cruise Is Still Making Headlines in August
In light of continued claims that the remains of “giants” could not be those of Ice Age mammals because scientific men would not mistake one for the other, I thought I would share this passage I discovered in the September 1869 edition of the Canadian Naturalist summarizing a presentation that the famous paleontologist O. C. Marsh gave to the American Association for the Advancement of Science’s eighteenth meeting in Salem, Mass. that August. The presentation focused on bones found in Nebraska:
While engaged in sinking a well at that place, in June, 1868, a layer of bones was found by the workmen at a depth of sixty-eight feet below the surface, which were at first pronounced to be human, but during a trip to the Rocky Mountains, Professor Marsh examined the locality and bones, and found that the latter were remains of tertiary animals, some of which were of great interest.
In other words, locals (presumably of some official capacity, to judge by the use of “pronounced”) mistook Ice Age animals for human remains until a specialist in animal bones set them straight. We can add this to the similar account from 1827 on the long list of mistaken fossil identifications.
Just in case you care, the AAAS didn’t think the presentation worth publishing in their Proceedings, mentioning it only in title, “On a Remarkable Locality of Vertebrate Remains in the Tertiary of Nebraska.” It is only by dint of the Boston Daily Advertiser reporting Marsh’s words (and the Canadian Naturalist reprinting that account) that anything of this important testimony survives.
You’d think that such things would be old news, but to many in the giant- and Nephilim-hunting community, it is still shocking to discover that some people can’t tell the difference between animal and human bones.
There must come a point when an event has receded far enough into the past that it’s no longer news. Right? The Conspira-Sea cruise took place seven months ago, so it was a bit of surprise to see Popular Mechanics running a lengthy account of the January conspiracy theory gathering now, in their September issue. Given the number of outlets that have devoted space to this cruise, from Popular Mechanics to the Refinery 29 “lifestyle” site, you’d think it was the biggest thing to have happened in the history of conspiracy theories. It wasn’t even in the top echelon just of conspiracy theory conventions this year. The authors who think this was something special might do well to check out the MUFON conference, the Paradigm Symposium, and even the appropriately named upcoming History Channel Alien Con.
I was struck by author Bronwen Dickey’s description of conspiracy theory cruisers:
The conspiracy group […] was mostly serious-looking senior citizens in "Infowars" T-shirts. Some of them wore casts, others walked with canes. Two relied on motorized scooters. None looked like he or she could afford to spend money frivolously. One eighty-year-old man's toes poked through the tops of his worn leather loafers.
Cruises and conspiracy conferences both attract disproportionate numbers of senior citizens, so this isn’t much of a surprise, though the description seems rather unkind.
I think the saddest detail in the whole story has to be this one: “At breakfast one morning, a woman whose father had survived the Holocaust told me that she broke down in tears when another cruiser claimed it never happened.” Of course there were Nazi apologists on the cruise.
I was also interested in the account Dickey gave of how Missy and Ron Hill, a married pair of truck drivers from Florida, claim to have become interested in UFOs and ancient mysteries: They said that they were churchgoing people when they met, and then they started listening to Coast to Coast AM while on overnight trucking runs. “After that, we were kind of hooked, I guess,” Ron Hill said. The couple now travel the world to visit prehistoric power centers in search of alien “star gates.”
While anecdotal, and possibly incomplete, this story illustrates the problems with paranormal media. In the old days, producers of syndicated mystery-mongering shows felt compelled to at least offer a sop to reality, if only because they had to sell their show separately to hundreds skeptical stations across the country, rather than a single cable network. In Search of… for example used to open with a disclaimer: “This series presents information based in part on theory and conjecture. The producers’ purpose is to suggest some possible explanations, but not necessarily the only ones, to the mysteries we will examine.” Contrast that to Coast to Coast or Ancient Aliens, where the only remnant of this is a tendency toward rhetorical questions (“Could it be…?”), more to protect the producers from being proved wrong than to protect the audience from their paranoid lies.
But how could they do otherwise? The people who produce these lies are often divorced from reality or cynical opportunists, and the media professionals who empower them are either true believers, too (like Committee Films’ Maria and Andy Awes) or cynical opportunists themselves. It did not surprise me at all Dickey described two fringe types literally chasing her down the hall screaming threats and offering to fight anyone who got in the way, or that another fringe figure planned to ambush Dickey in order to engage in public humiliation of her.
8/21/2016 08:59:08 am
>>>You’d think that such things would be old news<<<
8/21/2016 09:55:12 am
I'm glad you mentioned "In Search of." It seems like about seventy percent of the HIstory Channel's shows are based on subject matter from that series. They either re-hash it or directly rip it off. Some of the series we see are based on only one episode of "In Search of." I think a lot of the subjects like giants and UFO's are intentionally exaggerated in a kind of side show way just to make money. My fav. "In Search of" is "The Danger of the Coming Ice Age." LOL. Funny how that has turned around to Global warming only forty years later.
8/21/2016 10:38:54 am
Michael Pye and Kirsten Dalley have edited books devoted to pseudo-history.
8/21/2016 04:40:03 pm
Timely... just finished listening to Tetzoo podcast and one of the hosts recounted how he and a team of reasearchers mistook a recently buried modern fox skull for a fossil. Being good scientists they analysed the skull before actually promoting it as a newly discovered fossil species, but behind the scenes had gotten all excited about it. The host literally said how this happens sometimes to scientists and how easily the new bones can fall down into old layers of dirt and be confused for being original to that lower strata.
8/21/2016 06:53:25 pm
>>> vulnerable people who might be better off spending their limited cash elsewhere<<<
Not the Comte de Saint Germain
8/21/2016 05:32:45 pm
I suppose the media cover the ConspiraSea cruise so much because it's such an odd juxtaposition. It's not exactly news that UFO enthusiasts hold get-togethers, but the idea of a cruise for conspiracy theorists is rather jarring. How well can you relax when you're constantly discussing the nefarious forces that control the world?
8/22/2016 01:51:07 am
Holocaust denial is just the most despicable concept.
8/22/2016 05:15:55 am
I can only think of about 4 fringe historians that are Holocaust deniers.
8/22/2016 05:28:19 am
I reserve the right to state that Western Civilization is pre-eminent without that being a racist statement,
8/22/2016 05:44:49 am
I reserve the right to say you're full of shit, as always. I also reserve the right to tell a homophobic, sexist, racist bigot he is in NO position to complain about political correctness.
8/22/2016 06:00:40 am
More distorted reasoning from Only Me.
8/22/2016 06:26:43 am
Day Late and Dollar Short
8/22/2016 11:25:07 am
Time Machine, you're such a charmer. People must really like you in real life.
8/22/2016 01:50:20 pm
Actually, non-Christians find my information interesting and find no trouble with it. They are grateful.
Not the Comte de Saint Germain
8/22/2016 02:35:39 pm
Apparently you've forgotten that I'm not a Christian, and I think you're full of bilge.
8/22/2016 03:05:51 pm
You know what you can do with your reference encyclopaedia.
8/22/2016 03:11:54 pm
Ah, yes. More proof TS is full of shit. Do you EVER get tired of being proven wrong?
8/22/2016 03:32:24 pm
You accuse people of being homophobic, that means you are liberal about LGBT
8/22/2016 03:36:34 pm
>>>I've said it before, I'll say it again; your drug hypothesis is a reflection of your personal beliefs and not scientifically or historically established fact.<<<
8/22/2016 04:19:27 pm
"You accuse people of being homophobic, that means you are liberal about LGBT"
8/22/2016 04:31:45 pm
8/22/2016 04:39:22 pm
Templar Secrets holds this position:
8/22/2016 05:02:35 pm
Get a Formal Education
8/22/2016 05:58:45 pm
I know a lot of things from a plethora of sources. I don't, however, claim to know more than actual experts in their respective fields because I read books from second-hand bookstores in the 1970s. You are the one who admitted to that.
8/22/2016 07:41:09 pm
The Monarchy and Church was toppled through the introduction of democracies and elections and the introductions of Republics through Freemasonry.
8/22/2016 07:49:14 pm
Jesus Christ won't give you a job
8/22/2016 08:42:07 pm
Your Freemasonry revisionism is pointless, as you already agree history is bunk. Remember, opinions formed by flawed databases? That means you continuously contradict yourself by using the works of those "flawed databases" as crutches to prop up your own claims.
8/22/2016 09:52:36 pm
Without drugs there would be no religions.
8/22/2016 10:10:20 pm
Msgr. Ronny E. Jenkins, The Evolution Of The Church’s Prohibition Against Catholic Membership In Freemasonry
8/22/2016 10:25:16 pm
Wrong, as usual. You don't have any scientifically or historically verifiable evidence of drugs = religion, much less drugs = intelligence and civilization. No matter how often you repeat the claim, it remains untrue.
8/23/2016 05:52:17 am
Right now - this very second,
8/23/2016 05:58:00 am
There is something called ethnobotany
8/23/2016 06:01:13 am
Right now, this very second, none of those things lend credence to your revisionist history of Freemasonry.
8/23/2016 06:13:08 am
Anyway, your original post has been proven wrong. No libel was committed against von Daniken, Wolter or Hancock.
8/23/2016 06:51:52 am
Jason Colavito can still be dragged to court over remarks made about Daniken, Hancock and Wolter in relation to racism. It's up to the potential plaintiffs.
8/23/2016 06:58:20 am
Right now, Only Me is refusing to accept that the Vatican is excommunicating people who are Freemasons in 2016.
8/23/2016 07:02:10 am
>>> falling back on the work of historians and scholars to support your position<<<
8/23/2016 08:02:45 am
Libel has not been committed. End of discussion.
8/23/2016 08:41:56 am
>>>You're still relying on the work of historians and scholars<<<
8/23/2016 08:46:23 am
8/23/2016 08:52:00 am
"You're in no position to judge others."
8/23/2016 09:00:27 am
It's not a good idea to shoehorn kooky racism into genuine racism.
8/23/2016 08:38:26 am
“The Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and, therefore, membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful, who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.”
8/23/2016 08:48:54 am
Awesome! Thank you for providing evidence Freemasonry didn't "topple monarchy and church" or "replace throne and altar." Seems democracies and laws didn't do what you claim they did.
8/23/2016 08:51:08 am
Kookery racism is different to genuine racism
8/23/2016 08:53:17 am
Committed libel, Jason did not.
8/23/2016 08:55:48 am
>>evidence Freemasonry didn't "topple monarchy and church" or "replace throne and altar."<<
8/23/2016 08:58:37 am
It's not a good idea to shoehorn kooky racism into genuine racism.
8/22/2016 12:56:23 pm
Considering that the Conspira-sea cruise never happened, it was a false flag to cover for USO/Bigwebbedfoot activity, its not surprising its still being expounded upon.
8/22/2016 08:17:41 pm
The cruise occurred on Loch Ness right or lake George? We do have a reputed canal monster on the barge aka Eric canal in palmyra my just a few miles from hill comoroah. The canal lady sails a nighttime dinner cruise in the summer!
An Over-Educated Grunt
8/23/2016 10:21:05 am
In the postscript to "From Hell," Alan Moore describes Ripperology as sort of like a fractal inscribed in a circle. It will never, ever exceed the area of the circle; there are no new Ripper murders after all. However, each new writer or speaker adds one more crenellation, meaning that the perimeter of the figure is far longer than that of the circle inside which it's inscribed. Same thing with, say, ConspiraSea (or Roswell, or pick a modern fairytale, or even this comment thread). Every time a new audience finds out, more crenellation. Probably somebody out there more interested in the problem than me could build an entire career on the anthropology ofconspiracy theorists.
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