In the continuing chronicle of celebrities who love ancient astronaut theories, today’s entry comes from Rob Lowe. He told Radio Times that the show is his guilty pleasure, along with other trashy supernatural reality shows: “My guilty pleasures are shows like Ancient Aliens, Finding Bigfoot and America’s Most Haunted.” I hope he likes laughing at them rather than believing in them. Last night Nephilim theorists Steve Quayle and L. A. Marzulli appeared on The Hagmann Report to discuss—what else?—giants. It was pretty much what you would expect, but there were some interesting claims. First, remember when Quayle and Marzulli both advocated the existence of giants in Afghanistan and alleged that the U.S. military had captured or killed one during the Afghan War? Well, it turns out that the two men are sensitive to the criticisms offered by me and others that the stories they have told are inconsistent and contradict each other in their details. Rather than conclude that there is some deception going on, Quayle and Marzulli now claim that the inconsistencies are due to two different giants both being captured within twelve months of each other! Because that’s the logical solution. Quayle and Marzulli allege that they have “secret” information that they can share only with other Nephilim researchers and which it is too dangerous to give to the public. Funny how it has done them no harm despite the dangers it presents. (Later Marzulli, in discussing what he does not want to tell us about giants, accidentally revises this to suggest the information is instead unproven and un-vetted.)
The first half-hour of the three-hour show (Marzulli and Quayle appeared in two hours of it) was dedicated to restating Afghan giant claims that the two men have made for more than a decade, now with the added wrinkle that the various contradictory claims represent different giants. The second half hour switches to David Wilcock’s recent fantasy that a lost city has been discovered in Antarctica. Quayle, who refuses to give names, alleges that a scientist who just flew back from Antarctica—given how few people are stationed there, and how rare flights are, you’d think it would be too easy to find out who just from that description—told him that world leaders are being flown into the icy continent. This allegedly includes Newt Gingrich, who is apparently representing the Trump Administration. Given that world leaders are public figures, their known whereabouts should effectively refute this claim. The remainder of the half-hour involved Quayle promoting his podcast and Marzulli promoting the for-profit tour he and Quayle and running in Peru. They will devote much of the second hour to product pitches as well. Marzulli repeated claims from Ancient Aliens about the impossibility of building Inca building with only men and “llamas.” He also thinks that because he isn’t personally adapted to high elevation labor that indigenous peoples could not be either. He said that Ancient Aliens is correct, but that the aliens are really fallen angels. Quayle added that the Maya, Inca, and Aztec all allege that the giants are “white.” (News flash: They did not.) He said that “this isn’t a white [vs.] brown man argument” but that one cannot study any world culture without studying white giant cannibals from Canaan. To this he adds a ridiculous claim, that the word “cannibal” etymologizes to Canaan and Baal because the Nephilim were Baal-worshiping Canaanites! “Cannibal” is actually a Spanish corrupt of the tribal name of the Caribs, whom Columbus called the Caniba. Columbus thought them to be anthropophagus. The Nephilim were not cannibals in the Bible—Genesis 6 is silent on this—but only in the non-canonical Book of Enoch, which Quayle uses to create a (false) link between the pre-Flood Nephilim and the Biblical claim that worshipers of Moloch killed babies. This was not cannibalism. Quayle specifically cites Numbers 13:33 in which he says the Nephilim are mentioned along with a report that in their cursed land “the land devours its inhabitants.” “In other words,” Quayle said, “they were munchin’ and takin’ everybody out to lunch but they were on the menu!” No, not even close. The relevant passage is actually in Numbers 13:32 in which the Israelites report that the land of Anak was an inhospitable place—traditional commentators read it as either a land of famine or of strife. A plain reading of the context makes plain that the reference to eating up the inhabitants is figurative. The Bible does report cannibalism cases, but these are not from the Nephilim and are more often curses pronounced of God’s enemies. Quayle said that we as humans must stop fighting over politics in order to embrace conspiracy theories about secret bases and lost Nephilim cities in Antarctica. Funny how he was happy to fight over politics when Democrats, whom he said were literal demons, were in charge. He says that there is “old technology” down there, but it’s interesting that now that Trump is in power, he no longer blames the White House for masterminding the Nephilim takeover. But criticism such as mine must be wearing on Quayle, who took time to blast “skeptics, doubters, and the paid trolls” who refuse to accept his message of hate. He claims that the world leaders visiting Antarctica are proof that the Nephilim’s secret citadel must be real. Oh really? When former Secretary of State John Kerry was in Antarctica, he was accompanied by the media, and every second was documented. When did he find time to slip away to a secret underground super-city? Quayle said that he suspects that this week’s Atlantis Rising documentary, which linked Judaism to Atlantis, is part of a secret disclosure project run by Satan in which the public is purposely being deceived into believing in Atlantis rather than the pre-Flood world of Nephilim so the elite can bring the Nephilim back through a portal opened through CERN’s Large Hadron Collider. Quayle claims that while showering he receives flashes of “revelation,” and this time God told him that the DNA of the type that L. A. Marzulli is extracting from “giant” Nephilim bones could be used to clone Nephilim. I am not sure how that would be compatible with demon-giants entering through portals, but consistency isn’t their strong suit. Marzulli claims that these same elites destroyed most giant bones and most photos of giant bones. He blames the Smithsonian, the Catalina Island Museum, and others; and he openly admits that the Book of Enoch has “historicity” and can be used as a legitimate source for the behavior of the Nephilim. I want you to stop and consider that for a moment: Marzulli and Quayle endorsed the Book of Enoch as a historical and accurate account of the world before the Flood. This is an insolvable problem, and one that even the ancients understood. How do they propose that the Book of Enoch, which claims to have been written by Enoch himself before he was taken up to Heaven in the years before the Flood, survived said Flood? Did Noah take it on the boat with him? If so, why is it not Scripture? And if the book is not actually the work of Enoch before the Flood, then it is lying, which demands we ask how it is that we are to accept the word of a liar. In the second hour, Marzulli claims that those who doubt his claims do so because they don’t want to admit that the Bible is true. He does not explain why the existence of giants would prove that the rest of the Bible is true, any more than the existence of Jerusalem, threshing-floors, or Philistines does. He says he is working on a new documentary series on UFO encounters, and he says that the Christians he talked to were able to end their alien abductions simply by uttering the name of Jesus. You mean like waking up from a dream? Oh, no! Of course not! They simply instantaneously teleported back to their beds at the exact moment they uttered the name of Jesus and woke up... no... realized they were dreaming... no ... sent the demons back to hell. Quayle utters some angry words about modern preachers, whom he views as too focused on themselves rather than God, and he demands a return to the old time religion of fire and brimstone. Marzulli finishes up by saying that “the attacks are unbelievable” on him and Quayle for claiming that giants are really evil fallen angel hybrids who are plotting with global elites to bring about the end of the world through cannibalism, homosexuality, rampant violence, etc. Gee, why would people doubt that? Both me n hope you will return to God, embrace conspiracy theories, and give them money for various new products that promise more of the same.
18 Comments
Shane Sullivan
2/1/2017 12:40:20 pm
So they've finally come around and announced their acceptance of the teachings of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church. Good for them.
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Only Me
2/1/2017 12:42:01 pm
Okay, let me get this straight. The following is "safe" to reveal:
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bear47
2/1/2017 03:45:07 pm
Only Me,
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Only Me
2/1/2017 05:07:15 pm
Glad to have made you laugh, Bear. I was completely astounded at their idiocy.
Tom
2/1/2017 04:17:39 pm
None of this is surprising to avid followers of scifi/horror for instance the lost/found City in Antartica is Lovecraft and Alien vs Predator the white giant is Alien Prometheus etc. What these gentlemen are doing is merely mining fiction mostly without acknowledging the sources which has a hint of plagiarism.
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V
2/2/2017 11:10:34 am
A HINT of plagiarism!? It's a whole goddamn clue-by-four of plagiarism, friend! Possibly a whole HOUSE of clue-by-fours.
Ruth
2/6/2017 01:14:30 pm
When you speak personally to SQ he brings up science fiction movies all the time like Hollywood has hidden all the earths top secrets.
Killbuck
2/2/2017 09:35:14 pm
The Reply of the Week!"
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Richard Spearman
2/5/2017 03:46:15 pm
Keep your obscenities off this high quality website...you will simply deter people from accessing it.
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Kal
2/1/2017 01:15:43 pm
"Attack on Titan" is a popular Japanese cartoon series about giants called Titans that eat the humans. It is fiction.
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Bkd69
2/1/2017 01:28:16 pm
I hate to break it to them, but at the last media affairs committee meeting on Gehenna, we decided against using pseudo documentary programs as a screen for disclosure, and to continue using superhero movies and shows, and supernatural dramas.
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DaveR
2/1/2017 02:50:35 pm
Don't forget high profile celebrities like Rob Lowe, Katy Perry and Megan Fox.
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DaveR
2/1/2017 02:16:29 pm
These guys have a one way ticket on the crazy train, and it looks l like they're on one of those bullet trains.
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Frans
2/20/2017 04:59:25 pm
I don't think it is a crazy train but a gravy train, they make money with BS that they seem to make up while speaking
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The whole 'Twilight Zone' twist to this is...(drum roll please) We ARE the ''Nephilim''....we allegedly ARE the One Third of rebellious souls that left paradise in the Book Of Revelation that Lucifer took with her, to establish a mimic of Heaven down here on Earth, we TRESPASSED down here into this forbidden dimension we all live in, (''forgive us our trespasses")...The creation of Man, etc. takes place AFTER some (not all) the events in Revelation...think of Revelation as written in the style of ''Pulp Fiction'', lol...the timeline in Revelation is not 'linear', it's content takes place in different epochs, but in the end it all apparently comes together and makes much more sense.
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Geoffrey Tolle
2/1/2017 10:00:33 pm
Just a minor point from an ABS (Amateur Bible Scholar) - The point of the land eating its inhabitants might not be figurative as you and a number of other scholars have (very reasonably) suggested. If you read the surrounding story closely, you will note that it is not only the Anakim who are described as giants but the scouts as well. There are also (as I remember) some slightly odd ways it refers to the way the scouts traveled. My alternate theory is that this description of the promised land was originally based on a vision of some nabi ("prophet") who was probably channeling an alternate or altered version of the nefilim in "Enoch 1".
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Americanegro
2/2/2017 08:29:58 am
Anthropophagous. Where can I get one of those "paid troll" jobs? Sounds like fun.
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Barry
1/19/2019 04:39:02 pm
There were giants in the earth in those days. For those of us who take the Bible for what it says, we don't need all this mumbo Jumbo. Robert Wadlow. Ever hear of him? But I guess all those pictures are photoshopped.
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