One of the criticisms that comes my way at least once a week is why I bother reviewing cable TV shows. Some ask who is watching them, and others wonder who takes them seriously. Here’s another reason it’s so important to get high quality information about fringe history claims out where the public can find it: The public is apparently extremely interested in fringe history mysteries. According to Decider.com, 13 out of the 50 most popular streams on Netflix currently belong to The Truth Behind, a 13-episode NatGeo series from 2013 covering such fringe history hits as the Ark of the Covenant, crystal skulls, the Loch Ness Monster, UFOs, and more. The Truth Behind is hardly the most offensive of its ilk, and more often than not it comes to a conclusion that debunks some of the most ridiculous fringe claims. However, the sudden popularity of the NatGeo series speaks to the public’s continuing interest in fringe topics, even if Netflix’s internal ranking system doesn’t actually tell us how many people are watching the show.
Netflix is currently also streaming the first season of America Unearthed, and this has spawned a new round of emails from first-time viewers who (a) can’t tell the difference between me and show host Scott Wolter, or (b) are mad at me for criticizing their new crush, or (c) are thrilled that someone has published facts to refute the show’s outrageous claims. Speaking of which, Scott Wolter turned his blog over to his friend Steve St. Clair on Saturday so St. Clair could discuss DNA results that he believes prove that he is descended from people who were married to people who founded the Knights Templar. St. Clair railed against “the angry skeptics, who take pot shots at the show from the peanut gallery” and demanded they produce evidence to refute his claims, as though the burden of proof somehow this time failed to fall on the claimant. “The facts are the facts. At some point, the pundits must come out with legitimate evidence to dispute my claims, or slink away with their tails between their legs.” Since there is currently only one other science-based skeptic reviewing America Unearthed, and she is still on season one, I presume St. Clair has pluralized me. St. Clair objects that skeptics fail to understand that at just 44 minutes per episode, America Unearthed has too little time to provide details to support its claims. As someone with a degree in broadcast journalism, I fully understand the limitations of television, and my criticism of the narrative in the shows in which St. Clair appeared this year fell squarely on the fact that the narrative was missing important connecting details and let several threads drop entirely. St. Clair’s claim to be related to the Templars was asserted, for example, and then not a single word of support was provided. This isn’t a function of time but rather of slipshod writing. Unfortunately, in his blog post St. Clair never actually makes the case that the Sinclair-St. Clair-De Santo Claro family is directly connected to the foundation of the Knights Templar. What he claims is that the family is connected back to the brothers Richard de Vilers and Hamo and William de St. Clair. The three donated land to Savigny Abbey around 1120, according to St. Clair, though this isn’t quite true, according to Sinclair sources. The donation occurred in 1135 and was confirmed in 1139 and again in 1143. St. Clair claims that the abbey was Cistercian and therefore must have been closely connected to the Templars. However, the abbey, now in ruins, was a Benedictine-derived independent Savigniac monastery until about 1148, when due to financial trouble the Congregation of Savigny merged with the Cistercians. The donation of land likely occurred because in 1119 Pope Celestine II placed the site under his personal protection and asked the nobles to support it—which didn’t work since, as noted, they went bankrupt and ended up merging with the Cistercians. The long and short of it is that the donation of land in 1135 had nothing to do with the Cistercians or the Templars, so the fact that other families who were associated with the Templars also donated to the abbey, which had departed from Benedictine rule to form its own Savigniac order, implies nothing about a connection between the St. Clairs and the Templars. It only shows that noble families competed in public displays of charity and intermarried over the course of centuries. Unless one wishes to argue that these marriages were somehow dynastic alliances designed around a Templar conspiracy rather than the prosaic dynastic politics of European aristocracy, logic dictates that more evidence is needed to suggest anything more than the limited pool of available noble brides in High Middle Ages. To take a more familiar example: Louis XVI of France, a Bourbon, married Marie Antoinette, a Habsburg. Napoleon I of France married Marie Louise, also a Habsburg. Somehow this failed to make France into an eternal ally of Austria, and despite the Habsburg blood running through Bourbon and Bonaparte veins, this implicates neither Napoleon nor Louis in the trials and tribulations of the Habsburgs, nor French endorsement of the Habsburgs, their great rivals. Therefore, Steve St. Clair needs to show more than just a genetic relationship to various medieval people; he needs to show that this involved an actual ideological or political relationship, and further that said relationship was tied to the Knights Templar, which the Sinclair family notably failed to join and just as notably testified against in the 1300s. King Stephen of Scotland’s wife, Matilda of Boulogne, notably patronized both the Knights Templar and the Congregation of Savigny in the 1130s and 1140s, before the merger, and then the Cistercians afterward. But this was widely seen at the time as an effort by the queen to acknowledge the rise of new orders, as rivals to the long-established Benedictines, not as co-conspirators. The donations were entirely separate, and the Savigniac and Templar orders did not work together in those years. It was only after 1149, when Louis VII of France gave Savigny to the Templars at the behest of Bernard of Clairvaux that the Savigny Abbey has anything to do with the Templars—and that was fifteen years after the St. Clair family donation. They wouldn’t have had any idea that the Templars would come calling—unless you posit another conspiracy! But Steve St. Clair tells us that “Savigny was an unusually important Cistercian Abbey.” Sure, just not at the time he wanted it to be.
66 Comments
666
2/16/2015 07:27:50 am
One of the first things that a budding genealogist learns is to trust no one and no document; or, rather, to trust them with varying levels of skepticism, relying only upon well-verified documentation that, together with other proofs, establishes a pattern that can finally be accepted as "reasonably certain". For the common people - farmers, tradesmen, servants, slaves, anyone not wealthy or ennobled - it is difficult to prove lines older than about the year 1800, very difficult before the year 1700, and almost impossible prior to the year 1600 - the records simply do not exist. For minor nobility and the very wealthy, it is difficult to establish lines before the year 1300, very difficult before the year 1200, and virtually impossible before the year 1000. (R. Reginald, 1982)
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Uncle Ron
2/16/2015 07:42:03 am
"Napoleon I of France married Marie Louise, also a Habsburg. Somehow this failed to make France into an eternal ally of France . . ." ?
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spookyparadigm
2/16/2015 09:47:11 am
But that wouldn't provide a new sideshow exhibit each week.
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EP
2/16/2015 07:43:26 am
Scott Wolter's blog always has the best comments.
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Only Me
2/16/2015 11:36:40 am
That last comment gave me the sad face. Using programs like AU for educational purposes is incomprehensible.
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Rick
2/16/2015 11:52:44 am
I find AU is just as credible as the chain letters going around on social media. I work with a guy who is pretty gullible and believes much of what is going around Facebook concerning politics. Of course he wants me to prove him wrong. I told him he has the burden of proof but he says the chain letter is the proof. Sigh. Anyway I finally told him that I don't believe anything on social media even if it turns out that I wrote it. It's like citing a bathroom wall as a source. I treat AU the same. I don't even believe that the name of the host is SW anymore. Think about it, how many lies can someone tell you until you stop believing anything they say?
Harry
2/18/2015 11:08:44 pm
Rick,
mr. j
2/16/2015 04:38:43 pm
"One little note to Scott: my son (he's 10, has Autism and home schooled) loves your show. It has lit a spark in him and he is now ravenous about history where before, he was just mildly interested. He now says he wants to be a, "Historical Detective." Thanks for inspiring him!"
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Tony
2/16/2015 08:35:12 am
"Speaking of which, Scott Wolter turned his blog over to his friend Steve St. Clair on Saturday so St. Clair could discuss DNA results that he believes prove that he is descended from people who were married to people who founded the Knights Templar. "
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666
2/16/2015 08:44:26 am
There's no significance in being a descendant of a Templar family. The actual Knights themselves were warrior-monks who adhered to a vow of chastity, meaning they had no offspring.
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EP
2/16/2015 09:00:35 am
And, as we all know, people never have children before taking vows of chastity, nor do they ever break such vows.
666
2/16/2015 09:03:23 am
Hugues de Payen was married before he was a Templar, and renounced this life when he became a Templar.
Tony
2/16/2015 09:04:47 am
A vow of chastity? Where's the fun in that?
666
2/16/2015 09:07:42 am
If Steve St Clair *is" a descendant, he's descended from illegitimate issue of a Knights Templar who broke his vow of chastity,
Matt Mc
2/16/2015 09:15:33 am
St. Clair's own relatives say that he is not related to "Bloodline" Sinclairs.
666
2/16/2015 09:18:47 am
Yes, there's sectarianism amongst the Rosslyn believers.
EP
2/16/2015 09:36:54 am
666, in your rush to quote other people in an attept to sound smart, did you even notice that you're contradicting yourself?
Joe Scales
2/16/2015 11:05:49 am
Then there's "Living in Sin Clair"...
EP
2/16/2015 11:30:53 am
Good one, Joe Scales! :D
Clint Knapp
2/16/2015 03:39:18 pm
"St. Clair's own relatives say that he is not related to "Bloodline" Sinclairs."
666
2/16/2015 09:51:00 am
Confrere brothers within the Templars were allowed to be married, but - because they had married and had children - were not allowed to live in the same House as the full-knight brothers who had pledged chastity,
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EP
2/16/2015 09:53:49 am
So... Your point is what, again? (Aside from apparently failing to understand how human reproduction works.)
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spookyparadigm
2/16/2015 09:51:37 am
That "ratings" factoid is very interesting, if representative. That it is NatGeo only makes me wonder if it is some kind of mechanical anomaly.
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Rick
2/16/2015 11:16:32 am
"Ah, you have to love those hard line academics who would rather hold on to flawed history that makes them sleep all cozy at might rather than be true academics and never stop looking. "
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Only Me
2/16/2015 11:52:10 am
Look at it from this perspective, Rick. Let's say, for the sake of argument, Steve proves his relationship to the Knights Templar. Will it:
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Rick
2/16/2015 12:03:37 pm
True. All true. I figure his main angle is a TV deal or book deal, or he wants to be one of those talking heads they call anytime any show mentions Templars. I think he has observed SW and Butler and realized that if he can establish any type of link to Templars then he will be on the short list of guests for every fringe show until he dies.
EP
2/16/2015 12:21:42 pm
Steve St. Clair's antics have ensured that every time I come across him on the net, I can't help thinking that Steve St. Clair has a really tiny penis.
666
2/16/2015 01:39:15 pm
Look at it from this perspective, the buffoonery of Steve St Clair is dependant on the historical Christ.
EP
2/16/2015 01:46:27 pm
Tell us more about how the Bible is a lie and Christianity is evil, 666. That's certainly a unique and original perspective you've not shared with us on countless previous occasions.
666
2/16/2015 01:54:40 pm
All you have to do is to quote the Gnostic Scriptures - not just at Steve St Clair - but also at the likes of Simcha Jacobovici, Bruce Burgess and other Jesus Bloodliners (eg "I have come to destroy the works of the female").
666
2/16/2015 02:12:51 pm
There's not that much difference between Catholic Christianity (Faith) and Gnostic Christianity (Knowledge), since they both have a common source. A split developed sometime towards the late first century. Faith and Knowledge are fused together in the works of Paul.
Only Me
2/16/2015 02:48:31 pm
"Look at it from this perspective, the buffoonery of Steve St Clair is dependant on the historical Christ."
EP
2/16/2015 03:00:57 pm
You mean "Gardner", right, Only Me?
Only Me
2/16/2015 03:07:39 pm
Whoops! Extra "e" is extra. :)
EP
2/16/2015 03:15:53 pm
Fun Fact: Laurence Gardner literally thinks that The Lord of the Rings is nonfiction.
V
2/16/2015 04:17:00 pm
Hey, Barnes and Noble is not a bad place to do research. You just have to know how to evaluate your sources--the same as you do at an academic library and the Library of Congress. I worked at an academic library for a while in college. Their source materials weren't that much more reliable than the B&N down the street.
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EP
2/16/2015 05:56:40 pm
You must have had a great Barnes and Noble there. Or gone to a shitty college :P
Matt Mc
2/17/2015 02:24:22 am
Living in DC and having to have gone to the National Archives and Library of Congress for research many a time (now given I was looking for archival video material), I can honestly say that there is no comparison between them and Barnes and Nobles. Some Colleges like Johns Hopkins and U of Maryland have excellent libraries but they are strong on certain subjects (John Hopkins for example has a excellent medical library, American University has a excellent Political Sciences library, U of M has a great engineering and physics library ect..) The Library of Congress and National Archives has great libraries on all those subjects, it is a lot harder to find things at the Library of Congress and Archives and sometimes it takes days for something you requested to be delivered and you have to stay on premises and depending what you are doing schedule appointments but like I said there is absolutely no comparison between Library of Congress/National Archives and a book store or even a college library.
tm
2/16/2015 03:43:35 pm
Mr. St. Clair brags that it took him 16 months to research and write a 6,000 word blog post. Sigh . . .
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V
2/16/2015 04:22:28 pm
...did he even go to college? Because, like, my Freshie English class required us to research and produce 5,000 word research papers EVERY WEEK, and some of my teacher education classes wanted them every couple of DAYS.
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Joe Scales
2/17/2015 01:52:56 am
Well, just like celebrity deaths, buffoonery on Wolter's blog comes in threes. Butler is now a guest blogger, aimlessly rambling upon his affinity for sheep.
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EP
2/17/2015 03:56:44 am
I don't want to write a lengthy refutation, since Jason might want to do it himself, but Butler's understanding of history is nonexistent.
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CHV
2/17/2015 10:14:09 am
Even if Steve were directly related to the Templars in some way, I could not care less. I'm related to to US presidents on my mother's side. That and a nickel leaves me with a nickel at the proverbial end of the day. As for any claims by Steve that he may be a descendent of Jesus, I consider that to be unprovable without a DNA sample from the father in question.
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Joe Scales
2/17/2015 10:55:17 am
Well, with any long lineage, the affects of inbreeding are bound to become apparent.
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EP
2/18/2015 03:31:28 am
Only if you inbreed :P
Dan
2/18/2015 02:35:25 am
The most amazing thing about this topic thus far is that Steve hasn't come by to troll.
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EP
2/18/2015 03:31:05 am
I wonder if that is because he's under or is trying to get a contract... It would sure suck if someone were to remind the world of his retarded behavior on this blog in the past... ;)
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Matt Mc
2/19/2015 12:11:51 am
Steve and Rev have been noticeably absent. I think it is another sign that AU is over. They no longer feel the need to protect the honor of their friend as he slides back into obscurity
Sinclair
2/19/2015 12:18:05 pm
WOW how many times do I have to post to this site stating that StClair is in no way connected to the Sinclair family. He has hijacked the family lol, He's a crank a Charlaton .His followers are leaving him in droves as he makes a bigger ass of himself every day The jig is up StClair now bugger off
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Only Me
2/19/2015 12:57:10 pm
"His followers are leaving him in droves"
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EP
2/19/2015 01:43:51 pm
Steve St. Clair had followers?!?! :O
RTS true caithneser
2/19/2015 04:45:08 pm
Steve st Clair is not related to anyone from Caithness who has the name Sinclair. Don't waste your time with him.
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Another true Caithneser
2/19/2015 05:08:14 pm
Steve St Clair started his own St Clair/Sinclair site to prove his great lineage to the Earls of Caithness & Knights Templar & is the self proclaimed DNA expert on his site, but DNA science through the years has become more sophisticated thereby ruling out Steve's Sinclair connection. StClair is now attempting to change history with his "research" that moves Sinclair family out of Caithness into England to match his own DNA.
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Gary Gianotti
2/21/2015 02:11:16 pm
Wanted all of you to know this one! Some months ago I sent Scott Wolter and Image from orkney Scotland! The ancient dig site that was the dated site of being 1500 years older than the Giza Pyramids!
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Sinclair
2/21/2015 03:56:59 pm
Nice work Gary,I saw a photo of it !
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Gary Gianotti
2/22/2015 02:32:27 am
Hold on, I need to make a correction! The Hooked X I found from the Orkney dig is ancient, Scott's hooked X is the reverse hooked X. By the way, new evidence is showing the Scottish Jacobites Planted the Kenssington Runestone. Lord Douglas Named the county where the stone was found after himself! The Scottish had manipulated the stone as a land claim! They were the Hudson Bay Company and the Stuarts, Douglas lines were officers of the company! Lord Douglas was the Governor of Nova Scotia and the St. Clair/Acheson Lord of Gosford was "A" baron of Nova Scotia that covered the Oak Island territory! How did Scott and his experts miss those facts that the direct families he preaches about, controlled Oak Island and Canada in the 17th and 18th Century! Why, did they not catch on these fact? Because they are not real researchers and they do not do their home work! They appear to be a smoke screen with the History Channel giving disinformation! If you all remember Scott was hired to work at the Pentagon! He appears he was indoctrinated by the Government who are associated to the Media(A&E) who decive society! Either that last statement is 100% true or he really does not know what he is talking about and pulled the wool over his Media Masters own Eyes! Now You have Steve St. Clair on his show, giving 100% BS about the families of the Sinclairs, then he is in Portugal! Why would the Catholic church allow them to film in that church! Especially when Scott told me on the phone, they want to see the Church GO DOWN for their lies! Well I did not like that and I think if the church knew what he told me, they would never have been allowed them to film at that church! How odd, the church allowed them to film and their work is trying to do damage the church history(regardless-No Church Is perfect)! Was the church aware of what they were doing? Did the church not have an English speaking representative, who understood what they were doing or that their goal is to break bridges, not build bridges!
In addition to Abe Lincoln's close friend...
2/22/2015 03:30:13 am
The Scottish chronicle or, a complete history and description of Scotland ...
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Gary Gianotti
2/22/2015 05:29:16 am
Is the X Viking? If the scientist who unearthed this stone are correct on the dates. This Predates the Vikings, back to the ancient lost tribes or the Scythians that these families mention in the Declaration of Arbroath. These are a branch of people who became the Vikings.
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Gary Gianotti
2/22/2015 06:11:37 am
Im going to get the source information and post it that says this Hooked X stone was found at the level where they tested for dates!
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"X"
2/22/2015 10:30:42 am
100,ooo thanx... this has the very Auld Scots being highly
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Gary Gianotti
2/22/2015 11:07:17 am
There is more than one of thes X's there! My associate is going to contact the scholars there and see what they make of this and how old these are!
William M Smith
2/22/2015 12:28:05 pm
Gary - The hooked X located on the Kensington Rune stone 11 times and once on the Naragessit Bay stone near the Newport Tower are symbolic when stood alone and represent the letter A when used in Runic messages. If you notice the hook on the x is always on the right leg and points the same direction as the left leg. This symbol was first used in Portugal in 1250 to represent a means of measurement. This measurement technology came from Arabia in 1250 to Portugal and is called magnetic declination. It is the variance between true north and magnetic north at specific locations on earth. The Newport Tower was built in 1472. It is explained in chapter 3 of the 1494 treaty between Spain and Portugal. The Newport Tower was built by Portuguese and Danish fisherman to process cod fish for the European market. I have been to the tower many times and will be spending a week this summer with the historical society to explain some of the new facts which will be added to my paper in Migration and Diffusion. You can read this paper at (http://www.migration-diffusion.info/article.php?id=222)
William M Smith
2/22/2015 12:53:38 pm
Gary - I forgot to address all the hooked X's you claim exist at the Newport Tower. You will find them at locations where the builder needed to place his lodestone compass to mark the proper location of tower components. (Windows, marker stone, yard arm beam,bearing pockets for trap door) When I visit the tower this June or July I plan on getting photos of the bottom sill in the south window.
Gene
4/13/2015 04:02:34 pm
I've been watching Ancient Aliens and America Unearthed for many years now (and cringing a lot while viewing, but in a fun way). I have just come across Jason's blogs, and I must say, there is an aura of "butthurtness" to them, as well as to his supporters' comments. I feel many of you are taking these forms of entertainment too seriously, as well as maybe yourselves? However, I suppose everyone needs a hobby.
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Steve StC
2/13/2016 09:53:14 pm
Actually @Gene, Jason does this to make money - both directly and indirectly. Directly: he occasionally asks his readers to chip in to keep this hate fest alive and to help him and the other person who pays part of his mortgage fix their furnace. Indirectly: he writes here to sell his "xenoarchaeology" books. The acolytes who chew up every crumb that falls from his keyboard are here to join in the drama.
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