This morning I read Esquire’s fascinating piece on Eben Alexander III, the neurosurgeon who claimed to have visited heaven while in what his attending physician described as a medically-induced coma that Alexander would late claimed was caused by the bacterial infection the coma was used to treat. The magazine found a disturbing pattern of Alexander fudging facts and altering details, extending to several malpractice suits, which he settled out of court. While this does not directly affect the alleged reality of his afterlife vision, what I found interesting was something related directly to his book about heaven: According to emails he exchanged with his physician in preparing the book, he purposely chose to introduce inaccuracies into his description of her in order to create a better story—in a supposedly “scientific” account of the afterlife—even after asking her for the right facts. He wrote to her that the inaccuracies were “artistic license” and that his story was “dramatized, so it may not be exactly how it went, but it’s supposed to be interesting for readers.” These are nearly the words of Erich von Däniken when he told Playboy that he used in “theatrical effects” and had not felt the need to tell “the truth concerning [...] various other little things.” Alexander, when pressed, told the magazine that his experiences should not be taken as proof of the afterlife and that it is arrogant for anyone to claim such proof. Yet he is also working on a new book in which he plans to publish the first of many revelations he said God gave him in heaven, and he’s helping turn his heavenly visit into a movie. He also has several convenient ways you can pay him for various products and services revolving around mystical revelations. I guess some people value the narrative above its component parts and can excuse fabrications, lies, or lapses in logic as minor disturbances in a story that is prima facie true for other reasons. Other people value the component parts above the narrative and see the narrative as a conditional interpretation that has value only insofar as the evidence supports it. And the people who promote the narrative view have no trouble faking facts, fudging events, and rewriting inconvenient truths to help support the narrative. A case in point is the Holy Bloodline Conspiracy, the idea that Jesus and Mary Magdalene had children and that these children gave rise to European royalty, who promptly hid all evidence of it to keep the commoners believing in the divinity of Jesus. It’s a narrative, and one supported by almost no actual documentary evidence—just an endless round of mutually-reinforcing speculation derived from The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail and popularized by The Da Vinci Code. And sometimes what little evidence there is contradicts the narrative, and no one cares. In developing my book of texts used in fringe theories, I found that the alleged support for the idea that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married seems to take its indirect inspiration from secondhand versions of a medieval account of Cathar beliefs, the same beliefs that are also used to support the idea that there is a secret cult of dualists who worship the sacred feminine. This emerges from Holy Blood, where the authors summarize the following medieval text but don’t appear to have read it. When Scott Wolter and Alan Butler follow Holy Blood and declare the Cathars to be in league with the Templars (contrary to historical records) and the protectors of the Holy Bloodline, they would do well to note the evidence from the thirteenth century, which takes some of the wind from the Holy Bloodline sails. The following text was written by Peter of les Vaux-de-Cernay in his Historia Albigensis sometime between 1212 and 1218, describing the events of the Albigensian Crusade to wipe out the Cathars. Although Peter was an orthodox Catholic and firmly on the side of Roman Catholicism, his account is believed to have preserved more accurate versions of Cathar beliefs than those of other anti-Cathar writers, albeit not without some exaggeration. The passage of Peter’s text below has been translated (so far as I know) in the 1800s (secondhand from a quotation in the works of Raynaldi) and (from the original document) in 1969 and again in 1998, with each translation reprinted in other subsequent texts. Despite this, few fringe historians seem to be aware of its contents. As I mentioned, Holy Blood fails to credit the document, and Laurence Gardner’s Bloodline of the Holy Grail is equally ignorant of it, making claims it contradicts about Cathar beliefs about Jesus and Mary Magdalene while betraying no knowledge of…well, you’ll see. What follows is my own translation, directly from the Latin (Bible references added by me): First, it should be known that the heretics [the Cathars] propose the existence of two creators, one of things invisible, whom they call the benign God, and one of things visible, whom they name the evil God. They attribute the New Testament to the benign God and the Old to the malign God, and they repudiate all of the Old Testament except for certain passages included in the New Testament, which they judge to be appropriate because of their respect for the New Testament. They assert that the author of the Old Testament is a liar, for he said to the first created man: “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die” (Genesis 2:17), yet they did not die after eating of it, as he had said they would—though in reality after eating of the forbidden fruit they became subject to death. They also called him a murderer because he incinerated the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, destroyed the world by the waters of the Flood, and overwhelmed Pharaoh and the Egyptians with the sea. They declared that all of the patriarchs of the Old Testament were damned; they asserted that John the Baptist was one of the greatest devils. And they also said in their secret meetings that the Christ who was born in the earthly and visible Bethlehem and crucified in Jerusalem was evil; and that Mary Magdalene was his concubine; and that she was the woman taken in adultery of whom we read in Scripture (John 8:3). Indeed, the good Christ they say neither ate nor drank nor assumed the true flesh, nor was he ever in this world except spiritually in the body of Paul. But for this reason we say “in the earthly and visible Bethlehem”: The heretics believe there to be another earth, new and invisible, and in this second earth some of them believe the good Christ was crucified. Likewise, the heretics say the good God had two wives, Colla and Colliba, and from these he begat sons and daughters. There were other heretics who said that there was one Creator, but that he had as sons both Christ and the Devil. They said that all creatures were once good but that from the vials of which we read in the Apocalypse (Revelation 16:1-21), all were corrupted. If we are to believe Peter, the Cathars considered Mary Magdalene the concubine of an evil monster! This hardly squares with the image of the Cathars as venerating Mary as a goddess. Worse, since her paramour was evil, her children by him must perforce be evil, too. Why would the Cathars protect and cherish the bloodline of evil?
It’s also interesting to note that Colla and Colliba (also given in other printings as Collant and Colibant because, of course, no one can agree on what the manuscript says), the alleged wives of God, are probably identical with Oolah and Ooliba (Aholah and Aholibah) the sister-whores from Ezekiel 23:4 who symbolize Israel and Judah and are described as brides of God. French scholars suggested that the corruption occurred in trying to transliterate the Hebrew alef which begins each name into French, where a “C” was the closest to the Hebrew guttural sound. The final line, about the vials, is subject to dispute. The Latin as I have it reads “filias” (daughters) in all the printed texts I’ve found, but it seems probable (as the 1969 and 1998 translators conclude) that this is a mistake for “fialas” (vials, drinking plates), the word used in the Vulgate version of Revelation, where they unleash corruption on the world. If not, then the reference to Revelation is wrong and the daughters would be the human women from Genesis 6:1-4 (as Raynaldi adds in a marginal note), who consorted with the Sons of God. Either version could be supported from Peter’s text, and the translations and discussions I’ve reviewed are about evenly divided between the two readings, with more recent writers tending to favor vials. I’m actually a bit surprised that there are so many variations in the printed Latin texts of this passage, but they are all clear on one thing: The Cathars held that Jesus was evil and Mary Magdalene was his demonic concubine. Shockingly, those fringe writers whose work I reviewed in conjunction with my translation and who claim to speak for the Cathars seem not to want to deal with this, even if only to dismiss it as papal propaganda.
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Fantasy History Watcher
1/7/2014 06:00:09 am
Wasn't this a satire on the Papal version of Christianity who believed in a corporeal Christ, that the earthly Jesus Christ would have been married and therefore that was why Roman Catholic Dogma was wrong. The Cathars believed in an incorporeal Christ.
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Steve
1/7/2014 12:27:18 pm
Jason wrote, "What follows is my own translation, directly from the Latin (Bible references added by me)"
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1/7/2014 12:42:06 pm
I know that since you are steeped in a world where people routinely choose exaggeration over honesty and self-aggrandizement over accuracy, it can be hard to separate truth from lies; but when I say I translated it, it is because I have been a reader of Latin since I was a teenager. All of my translations are my own, but if you want to verify them, you are welcome to read the 1800s translation I linked to in the article (or any other translation), and I'll be happy to provide a link to the original Latin text. It says what I said it says.
Steve
1/7/2014 01:01:05 pm
Touchy, touchy.
Dave Lewis
1/7/2014 01:28:51 pm
Your note concerning translation is rather rude.
RLewis
1/8/2014 12:46:22 am
Ah, there's no Agenda like an Hidden Agenda.
Pacal
1/8/2014 04:08:47 am
Pacal
1/8/2014 04:20:02 am
Steve just why did you assume it possible that Jason didn't translate it himself but used Google Translate? All your venting about the problems of translating a document and the defects of Google Translate seem to be beside the point.
Steve
1/8/2014 06:45:14 am
Pacal,
Varika
1/8/2014 07:50:57 am
...actually, Steve, I DID check Jason's quotes of your website at least once--and found them to be accurate at that time. I simply didn't feel the need to post "ZOMG JASON IS RIGHT AND STEVE IS WRONG!" as I rather thought it would be rude. And pointless. I have also disagreed openly with Jason's interpretation--see "zombies"--and also not as openly online but definitely offline. (These latter have been things that I didn't feel were particularly worth the online kerfluffle.)
Pacal
1/8/2014 08:42:36 am
Steve you complain about "us" being touchy. The irony is delicious. As for not assuming I said "why did you assume it possible that Jason didn't translate it himself but used Google Translate?" Jason made no such claim about using Google Translate so just where did you get this "possibility", why did you assume it even has a possibility? When a reading of Jason's website would indicate Jason's expertise with languages. As for your other possibility. Why did you not simply find a translation of Peter and compared it to Jason's.? That is exactly what I did when I first read Jason's translation. I have checked some but not all of Jason's blog postings so I do not just accept everything Jason says. Since it turns out that Jason did in fact translate the text without Google Translate it appears that my description of your possibilities of being beside the point are exactly right.
Steve
1/8/2014 10:17:26 am
Joe
1/8/2014 10:55:54 am
Steve,
Clint Knapp
1/8/2014 12:10:54 pm
Anyone else find it odd that this isn't even a post about Scott Wolter and Steve's decided to troll it? Or maybe that it's a post about debunking the Holy Bloodline that Steve is allegedly part of though he himself claims not to be?
Steve
1/8/2014 02:58:23 pm
Nice bait, Clint Knapp.
Steve
1/8/2014 03:03:19 pm
Just so I'm clear, Clint.
Varika
1/8/2014 03:54:26 pm
Steve? You are a VICIOUS dog who attacks anyone who even SLIGHTLY disagrees with you. You have descended past "insult" into "abuse." I do not see how you can throw stones on anyone's misquotes when you can't even tell two entirely different posts by entirely different people apart in your haste to attack with all fangs bared. You are a contemptible piece of human effluvium. Your credibility on ANY front is so low I wouldn't trust you to tell me the sun will rise in the morning. Are you sure you don't need psychiatric treatment? Perhaps for sociopathy? Paranoid personality disorder? Intermittent rage disorder? The fury of your responses is so out of proportion with what is actually said that it certainly is not NORMAL.
Steve
1/8/2014 04:06:29 pm
Thanks so much for your opinion and near-libelous comments Varika. You've added so much to the conversation.
Will
1/9/2014 12:14:55 am
Although I have a history degree and have been published in a peer reviewed journal, I currently work as a behavior management specialist.
Marcus Aurelius
1/10/2014 10:05:12 pm
I agree Steve! This is a hate site founded by Jason Colovito and his parrot cronies "Colavites". If you look at the lis on the last few blog post they are all the same! Mandalore, Only Me, Tara Jordan, A.D.,Fantasy History Watcher, Pacal, etc. They dont think, but use the same dialolauge he feeds to them The clearly dont read books, but post blurbs from internet articles and cite from them. Jason may do reading and researching but the rest get their info from him, agree with everthing he says and are incapable of independent thought. I truly feel sorry for them but what can you do. If Jason placed the same amount of time on his blog devoted to real research and historic discussions, instead of jealous vitriol and racist name calling, this actually would be a decent site as far as critical thinking into archeology. I think he secrectly wants to be Wolter as none other have taken the time to blast this man the way he does. Yes Steve, iagree with you 100% 1/10/2014 10:46:31 pm
Marcus, I have plenty of "real research" in the Articles section of this website, as well as in my books. You may be interested in my forthcoming book on the history and development of the Argonaut myth, which takes 160,000 words and 1,000 end notes to document the deep history and meanings of Greek mythology.
Lisa
8/30/2018 03:36:04 am
I've had the fortune of reading a few books on the followers of the Yellow Cross, aka Cathars. After reading the passage, I would propose that the writer is Far from bias. His statements only repeat the most narrow and same/similar accounts made by the Catholic church at the time of the inquisitions and massacre.
BY THE WAY
1/7/2014 09:59:42 pm
Umberto Eco is reportedly the latest author to mistakenly claim that Gerard de Sede believed in the Jesus Bloodline Theory, as reported in an online book review. He made an excellent literary contribution in "Foucault's Pendulum" so it's a pity he can't get his facts right.
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BY THE WAY
1/7/2014 10:02:59 pm
Umberto Eco's book where he reportedly makes the mistake is "The Book of Legendary Lands" (MacLehose Press, 2013). I haven't managed to access a copy of it yet.
BY THE WAY
1/7/2014 10:10:29 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/10483181/The-Book-of-Legendary-Lands-by-Umberto-Eco-translated-by-Alastair-McEwen-review.html
Varika
1/7/2014 07:11:31 am
"the idea that Jesus and Mary Magdalene had children and that these children gave rise to European royalty, who promptly hid all evidence of it to keep the commoners believing in the divinity of Jesus."
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Fantasy History Watcher
1/7/2014 07:17:30 am
It's to do with the atonement - Man's reconciliation with God, and the repairing of Original Sin
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Fantasy History Watcher
1/7/2014 07:21:14 am
But dualist sects like the Cathars regarded the very thought of a corporeal Christ to be a transgression, and unthinkable
Varika
1/8/2014 07:57:37 am
It still baffles me. To be frank, the whole concept of original sin baffles me, particularly the part where it's somehow due to sex. I mean, the story of the Fall has absolutely nothing to do with sex. "Repairing original sin" ought to have something to do with the original crime, not with something completely unrelated. Besides, didn't God tell humanity to "go forth and multiply?" And therefore refusing to obey that command is sinful--and at that, a sin that replicates the original one of disobedience much more closely?
Fantasy History Watcher
1/8/2014 08:36:24 am
There's 2,000 years of Roman Catholic Doctrine relating to Original Sin. It's not specifically mentioned by those words in the New Testament but the Pauline literature is steeped in the subject matter. "Go forth and multiply" was the punishment enforced for taking the forbidden fruit. The cross was the Tree of Life that Christ was crucified upon that rectified Adam's sin.
DAN D
1/8/2014 09:17:00 am
Varika wrote:"Besides, didn't God tell humanity to "go forth and multiply?" And therefore refusing to obey that command is sinful--and at that, a sin that replicates the original one of disobedience much more closely?"
Fantasy History Watcher
1/8/2014 10:39:52 pm
"Now that would put a lot of past and present pious Catholic nun's and priest's in a dilemma"
Shane Sullivan
1/9/2014 12:13:48 pm
"Repairing original sin" ought to have something to do with the original crime, not with something completely unrelated."
The Other J.
1/7/2014 09:35:53 am
truthiness
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1/7/2014 09:39:27 am
They may well, which is why I tried to be careful to note that nothing in the article directly discounts his personal experience of heaven. I was mostly interested in his choices in writing the book, where he more or less decided to say that he'd massage events to make a better story, which is too symptomatic of so much "nonfiction."
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Fantasy History Watcher
1/7/2014 09:41:33 am
"Truth" is a subjective impulse. Truth is different things to different people.
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The Other J.
1/7/2014 10:35:29 am
That's kind of a useless broad brush to paint the world with. Truth is a lot more than a subjective response. It has a use-function, and if you really want to dig down into it, truth is a function of sentences that a particular discourse community has agreed upon due to those sentences' use-functions, and those use-functions are determined by the preponderance of evidence. (Examples: Gravity is a real thing that means you will fall if you drop from a height. Eating too much arsenic can be deadly to humans. My beagle will always bay at the neighbor's Samoyed no matter the time of day.)
Fantasy History Watcher
1/7/2014 11:40:59 am
"Truth" and "Fact" are quite different opposites and should never be conflated together
The Other J.
1/7/2014 04:07:48 pm
Nor did I conflate truth and fact (and they certainly aren't opposites). But truths are often arrived at with the help of facts.
Fantasy History Watcher
1/7/2014 09:28:14 pm
"Truth" is subjective, "Facts" are objective.
Fantasy History Watcher
1/7/2014 09:29:32 pm
"Opinion" is a nebulous term
Fantasy History Watcher
1/7/2014 09:44:01 am
All manner of chemicals must splash around in the brain towards approaching death.
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1/8/2014 04:00:22 am
Interesting post as usual Jason. I’d like to offer another take on Peter of Vaux de Cernay’s writing on Cathar beliefs. I have some experience with dualist philosophies and religion. Dualism embodies conflicting “realities”—in the case of Gnostics, like the Cathars, these competing realities are the material world on one hand, and the spiritual on the other. For ease of understanding, the material world is characterized as “evil” while the spiritual world is “good.” Because these religious doctrines ask the adherent to suspend their belief and reliance in a material world, oftentimes allegorical stories are used to emphasize the distinction. Hence, Jesus—the material man, the human—is steeped in the evils of the material world, while Jesus’s spiritual side—for purposes of illustration, let’s call that “Christ”—is the embodiment of good, never needing to rely on the evils of the flesh. The God of the OT, again for purposes of illustration, is similarly unpacked into two entities, one good (sometimes called the Monad), and one evil, the Demiurge. The Gnostic beliefs are designed to shock the practitioner into “seeing” quite literally the opposite of what appears to be very real and substantial (viz. the material world, mammon, etc.)—rejecting the material world and embracing that which is unseen is part of the doctrine’s goal. Further, the Gnostic ideological/religious “lens” creates a dynamic where the world is more easily viewed as insiders (“perfecti” and “credentes”) versus the outsiders (everyone else), who “worship” the material world, the devil, etc. etc. Sadly, religion over the centuries has perpetuated this in group / out group dynamic to edify its ranks, self-promote, etc. etc.
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Pacal
1/8/2014 04:26:17 am
First there is some debate over whether or not Arnaud ever made that comment. Although frankly it still sums up the Crusader's mindset. Secondly most of the inhabitants of Beziers were not Cathars and the massacre was indiscriminate. Apparently many people who had taken refuge in churches were slaughtered.
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Fantasy History Watcher
1/8/2014 04:30:40 am
Dualist sects like the Cathars did not believe in Jesus The "Human"
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Fantasy History Watcher
1/8/2014 04:33:32 am
"First there is some debate over whether or not Arnaud ever made that comment. "
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Pacal
1/8/2014 08:16:28 am
Your point? I said that there is debate over if Arnaud made such a comment and that is simply true. What your non - sequiturs have to do with it is a mystery. Historically all sorts of statements have been attributed to people who did not utter them. For example.
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Fantasy History Watcher
1/8/2014 08:20:56 am
Read the Gnostic texts first hand. Perhaps the Nag Hammadi Codices are the works of Freemasons and don't really date from antiquity. Christian sects did exist that rejected the bodily substance of Christ.
Fantasy History Watcher
1/8/2014 08:58:47 am
Robert Ian Moore, The War on Heresy, Afterword: The War Among The Scholars.
Pacal
1/8/2014 08:58:59 am
I was not referring to Gnostics of late antiquity I am referring to the so-called Cathar or Bogimil heresies of the Middle Ages. In the book mentioned above Moore, who is an expert on Medieval heresy argues that the alleged dualist components of the heresies are due to the recycling by Catholic heresy hunters of tropes and arguments from late antiquity, i.e., in the writings of the Church Fathers. His argument is that the Dualist elements in the accounts of heresy by Catholic writers etc., in the High Middle Ages owe to recycled tropes, stereotypes from the Church Fathers and have little to do with the actual heresy of the Cathars. P.S. I've read translations of the Nag Hammadi books. Did you read my posting? I said very clearly that I do not buy this argument that the Bogimils and Cathars were not dualists. I was merely indicating that there is a genuine argument going on over the question of dualism in the Cathar and Bogimil heresies.
Erik G
1/8/2014 04:42:09 am
I doubt we can fully understand the medieval religious mind-set today. I tend to agree with Byron that Vaux-de-Cernay's account seems largely an exercise in vilification and a justification for the Crusade. That said, I do not believe the Cathars were innocent little bunnies either; theirs was a serious heresy that, in keeping with the times, had to to be extirpated. What we see in extreme fundamentalist Islam today applied to Christianity back then.
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Fantasy History Watcher
1/8/2014 04:48:01 am
I liked Hershel Shanks' description of Thiering's take on Jesus as a "rollecoaster ride".
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1/8/2014 05:57:14 am
I found B. Thiering to great entertainment and fascinating 'what ifs' ---Her "pesher" technique as applied to scripture acts as a sort of rorschach approach to alternative interpretation, allowing Thiering to conclude any number of different hypotheses about what scripture is really saying. For example, in her book Jesus / Dead Sea Scrolls, all the places mentioned in the NT, like Egypt, become specific locales at Qumran near the Dead Sea -- it's supposedly an underlying and wholly different narrative revealed by "pesher." Essentially, saying one thing while meaning another, albeit *scried* by Thiering alone. From wiki, couple quotes about academic reception of her theories: "Professor Barbara Thiering's reinterpretation of the New Testament, in which the married, divorced, and remarried Jesus, father of four, becomes the "Wicked Priest" of the Dead Sea Scrolls, has made no impact on learned opinion. Scroll scholars and New Testament experts alike have found the basis of the new theory, Thiering's use of the so-called "pesher technique", without substance." In 1993 N. T. Wright, New Testament historian and former Bishop of Durham, wrote: It is safe to say that no serious scholar has given this elaborate and fantastic theory any credence whatsoever. It is nearly ten years since it was published; the scholarly world has been able to take a good look at it: and the results are totally negative."
Pacal
1/8/2014 04:42:48 am
I have a translation of Peter of Les Vaux - de - Cernay's <b>Historia Albigenis</b>.
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1/8/2014 05:07:57 am
And the 1969 and 1800s translations agree as well. With the exception of a couple of words (Sibly and Sibly for example translate Collam and Collibam as Oolia and Ooliba) the Latin is very clear and doesn't really offer much room for variation.
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CFC
1/8/2014 09:18:34 am
Steve,
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Steve
1/8/2014 10:31:06 am
I pretty much agree with you statement about Jason correcting errors, CFC. I really was not challenging him on the translation thing and meant the complement if deserved which, it turns out, it was.
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CFC
1/8/2014 10:51:10 am
I hope you post it Steve. If I recall, he was providing guidance to those who may not be in academia about how to follow proper scientific method. Right?
Steve
1/8/2014 11:04:22 am
That was what he presented in the online conference (i think it was 2009). 9/5/2015 04:07:09 am
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Dave
8/1/2017 02:18:53 pm
You have taken the word of the same people who carried out a crusade and genocide against the Cathars to bolster your argument? As if it is a true and reliable source? Seems like we all pick and choose our sources sometimes. They wiped out an entire culture but then left all their ideas intact in writing and didn't produce any propaganda at all to justify what they had done? C'mon.
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