In comments on an earlier blog post, the commenter “Dan” pointed to an old USA Today article from 2001 that I had not seen but which sheds new light on Scott Wolter’s geological acumen. The story concerns the AVM Runestone (or Rune Stone), which I knew was a hoax, but whose full story I wasn’t aware of. I missed the USA Today piece in my research because it doesn’t appear in the version of Lexis-Nexis I have access to, nor does any other mention of the incident. Scott Wolter has removed references to the incident from his website. The prelude to the incident is rather interesting. In 1995, Bob Berg, a Minnesota man who believes in Norse contact with medieval Minnesota, reported to his local Viking research group that he had found a one-ton stone bearing the runes AVM while surveying near the place where the Kensington Rune Stone, the nineteenth century hoax that many fringe writers believe is a genuine Norse artifact from an expedition from Vinland in 1362, was found in 1898. The AVM inscription resembled the one on the Kensington Rune Stone. After a closer inspection, Berg and his colleagues concluded that the so-called AVM stone was a fake. “I’ve considered it a fake for seven years,” Berg told Minnesota Public Radio in 2001. In the spring of 2001, stone carver Janey Westin and geologist Robert G. Johnson, her father, rediscovered the AVM boulder near Kensington, Minnesota. It became known as the AVM Runestone after Westin and Johnson became convinced that the stone was authentic and told their story in the local newspaper, which presented their view of the stone’s medieval date. The pair did not allow Berg to view the stone and seemed to ignore evidence that the inscription was not authentically medieval, particularly geological evidence that the rock was underwater in 1363. Two weeks later Scott Wolter and the Kensington Runestone Scientific Testing Team traveled to the site to investigate. Wolter cleared the boulder of lichens and discovered more inscriptions, including a line of runes and a date on the stone, which read 1363, a year after the date carved on the Kensington Rune Stone. The stone was removed to Wolter’s lab for photography and weathering analysis, but Wolter made no comments between May and November 2001 to indicate that the stone was anything but authentic. Wolter and the the AVM Special Committee of the Kensington Runestone Scientific Testing Team announced the discovery of the AVM Rune Stone at a press conference and declared it important “new evidence” for the authenticity of the Kensington Rune Stone. According to published accounts, the team suggested that the stone was likely a Norse grave marker, but the Fall 2001 edition of The American Edge, Scott Wolter’s then-newsletter, where this claim was said to have appeared, has been removed from his company’s website, along with his other older newsletters. The Runestone Museum, which carried an announcement on its webpage, also scrubbed mention of the claims from its pages. Fortunately, the Wayback Machine preserved a copy of the August 13, 2001 text, which was attributed to the joint authorship of the “AVM Special Committee,” whose members included Wolter, Johnson and Westin, as well as Richard Nielsen: A runestone that is believed to have been inscribed by Norse explorers or traders in the 14th century was found on May 13, 2001 near Kensington, in Douglas County, Minnesota. This newly discovered stone is in addition to the Kensington Runestone, found in 1898 by farmer Olof Ohman and his son when grubbing out trees. At this point, Wolter had been studying the inscription for almost three months.
In October 2001 two professors, Kari Ellen Gade and Jana Schulman, confessed by affidavit to carving the stone in 1985 while graduate students in Minnesota. According to Kensington Rune Stone researcher Barry Hanson and other published accounts, the women and several classmates had taken a class on the Kensington Rune Stone hoax and wanted to create one of their own to see how easily it could be done. Wolter accepted their confession and announced it on behalf of the AVM Special Committee on November 5. He told Archaeology magazine that he was troubled by some nagging doubts about the stone’s authenticity in the weeks before the pair confessed. He did not explain why it took him nearly six months to come to this determination, nor why his geological analysis failed to conclusively determine that the stone was a fake before the hoaxers confessed. Gade herself expressed shock that anyone would take the carving seriously since it was “clearly a fake.” Wolter lists the AVM Rune Stone as a hoax on his 2010 list of past projects. What is interesting is the way that the documents paint different pictures of what happened as the story was revised and massaged. USA Today describes Wolter as “disappointed” that the rock turned out to be fake but unembarrassed by his interest in it when describing his reaction in 2001. None of the 2001 reports explain what aspects caused Wolter to doubt the stone’s authenticity, but in a memo of November 5, 2001, at the time the confession was announced, Hanson stated that the geological analysis had indicated that pyrite was present, which due to its rapid oxidation indicated that the AVM stone was much more recently carved than the Kensington Rune Stone, which lacked such pyrite. However, by 2005, something changed. Speaking to Alice Kehoe, who was writing a book about the Kensington Rune Stone, Wolter now said he was “delighted” by the hoax. According to Kehoe, it was only through the revelation of the hoax that Wolter learned how quickly pyrite oxidized, allowing him to determine that the Kensington Rune Stone was significantly older than the AVM Rune Stone. The two accounts are seemingly in conflict, but if taken together suggest that the pyrite oxidation wasn’t considered solid evidence of age until after the team learned that the inscription was a hoax—another reason why they were taken in by it in the first place. The long and short of it seems to be that any time Wolter says he can determine relative age within minutes by looking at a rock, such analysis cannot be trusted.
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Scott Hamilton
1/6/2015 07:07:55 am
Is there any evidence that Wolter has ever tested his "scientific" dating techniques by blind dating inscriptions of known provenance, or by teaching his techniques to other people and blind testing to see if they come up with the same results he does?
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mmmm
1/6/2015 07:11:16 am
he uses Revolutionary War tombstones
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Scott Hamilton
1/6/2015 07:19:53 am
That doesn't answer my question. If that's his entire technique (and man, that would be lame if it were), a far more scientific approach would be to have multiple trained people look at the same inscriptions and, without any knowledge of each other's work or the context of those inscriptions, see if they come up with anything like the same results. If they do, and those results don't contradict other evidence, then great. If they come up with different results, then we'd know for sure that Wolter's techniques aren't scientific but we in the biz call "guessing."
Steve StC
1/6/2015 12:58:18 pm
Jason-and-his-keyboard (actually, the Wayback Machine) led Jason to the Runestone Museum’s announcement about the AVM Special Committee, whose members included Wolter, Johnson and Westin, as well as Richard Nielsen:”
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EP
1/6/2015 02:29:35 pm
Steve, you're so desperate to find a reason to disparage Jason and the rest of us that you've failed to distinguish between things revealed to Jason in private correspondence and public statements deliberately made available on the net.
tm
1/6/2015 03:03:27 pm
Hard for St. Cl to have much of a footprint when he hasn't posted to one of his own blogs since 2013 and to the other since last June. He has to come here so someone will read his drivel.
SteveStC
1/6/2015 03:29:42 pm
Ouch you got me TM (or whoever the hell you are). I haven’t posted on one of my blogs since 2013. That’s because it’s not a hate blog like Jason’s. When you’re running a hate blog to attack your hated football player SW, you post continuously on any little scrap you find. Admit it TM (or whoever the hell you are), this post by Jason doesn’t really move the ball down the field, does it? (Sorry for yet another football reference, Jason. I know how you hate football players.)
Paul Lett
1/6/2015 03:44:08 pm
why do you want to know who he or she is? Does that advance your ball down your field?
Only Me
1/6/2015 03:46:12 pm
Since Steve doesn't have the energy to do research, I did it for him.
SteveStC
1/6/2015 03:50:14 pm
Fascinating, Only Me (or whoever the hell you are), did you have to do research to figure out that your father was a firefighter? Did you have to do research to figure out that your friends in high school and college were football players? Precisely what in the hell are you talking about?
Only Me
1/6/2015 03:56:59 pm
Did you read what I linked to, Steve?
Paul Lett
1/6/2015 04:07:07 pm
I'm still trying to figure out why everyone's identity is a priority. I'm guessing his name is Steve? I don't know. But the main point is I don't care because it's irrelevant because it's the content of the post that im interested in. I wouldn't care if they all said anonymous. I come here to read an opposing viewpoint to Wolter. Why must I be flamed for doing my due diligence and researching a topic to the best of my ability?
Harry
1/6/2015 04:38:12 pm
Steve,
EP
1/6/2015 04:58:00 pm
Paul, Steve St. Clair here thinks he has shiny magical Jesus blood, and gets really upset when people challenge anything that supports the notion.
Matt Mc
1/7/2015 01:03:48 am
Let us not forget that Steve also has his family members following around the web to argue with him. It seems that they do not think that Steve is of the Sinclair bloodline and have several times in the past hijacked threads on this blog with their nasty little family fight.
Jason D.
1/7/2015 06:14:03 am
Steve St Clare everyone, holder of the Sacred Chalice of Rixx, heir to the holy rings of Betazed. Oh... sorry, I sometimes get my fictional bloodlines centered around an old cup confused.
SteveStC
1/6/2015 06:34:19 pm
Actually Emergency Poop (EP), I know you thinks it’s all about you, but I think the most insulting thing I said [sic] (wrote) was “And now you see how easy it is to be a xenonarchaeologist, everyone. You just aim your keyboard at a subject and let Google do all the work.” IMHO
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Mark L
1/6/2015 07:49:11 pm
What Steve-and-his-Jesus-bloodline fail to understand is...ah, I got nothing. I just wanted to write that.
EP
1/7/2015 03:12:35 am
Fun Fact: "Mr. T" is Mr. T's legal name.
Tim/1
1/7/2015 04:05:40 am
@stevestc (or whoever your supposed to be)
EP
1/6/2015 07:32:15 am
"If they come up with different results, then we'd know for sure that Wolter's techniques aren't scientific but we in the biz call "guessing.""
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FrankenNewYork
1/6/2015 01:19:23 pm
Comparing tombstone inscriptions (vertical and exposed 24/7) with carvings on stones that were, buried, horizontal, made of different material than the markers or all of the above is hard to accept in my book. How do you compensate for the difference in conditions and materials? Doesn't seem too straightforward to me. But what do I know?
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John McNair
1/6/2015 04:33:06 pm
One of the things that's troubling for me is that I live close to the University of Tennessee. Therefore I have followed Dr. Bill Bass for many years with the body farm. He has run the body farm for over 15 or 20 years and has written several hundred research papers on human body decomposition. Local news has interviewed him dozens of times and ran many shows on the body farm. And he has bodies in all conceivable means, buried, out in the open, in a plastic bag in a car trunk, etc. Being exposed to him and his research troubles me because I see a person in SW who is doing the same with rocks yet I don't see several hundred papers from him. I understand that Dr Bass didn't just all of a sudden have all those research papers and at one time had none, but SW has been doing this for awhile and I can't find the papers. Dr Bass has books too, but I'm talking about papers. Where he goes into detail on his research and techniques and findings.
John Dunham
1/6/2015 07:52:45 am
In the research business we call the type of analysis that Mr. Wolter does "Anally Generated Results"
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B L
1/6/2015 08:06:07 am
I've often wondered how much "real" work was done by Scott when he dated the KRS. I remain unconvinced that he did anything more than reproduce Winchell's work from 100 years ago. Granted, it's just a hunch I have. But, it might explain why he's not willing to make his technique available for peer review and why he talks in circles every time someone questions an aspect of his process. Wouldn't it be a grand fraud if the great breakthrough that he has been able to spin a career out of is nothing more than half-understood plagarism?
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EP
1/6/2015 08:09:32 am
It's because his "process" was amateurish and incompetent. His irresponsible handling caused the KRS to be damaged to the point where it's unlikely to be reliably datable in the future.
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Joe S
1/6/2015 01:17:57 pm
So, I have a question. When was it discovered that KRS did not have pirite present, before or after SW "tested" it with his "method"?
SteveStC
1/6/2015 05:46:37 pm
Ooooooohhhh !! RUMORS !! Rumors !!! "rumors that Wolter may have illegitimately retained possession of an uncorrupted chunk of it"
EP
1/6/2015 06:04:34 pm
Steve St. Clair hasn't been taking his meds lately. Move along, people. Nothing to see here.
mmmm
1/6/2015 08:18:15 am
he also claims to utilize local rocks and stones for a
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B L
1/6/2015 08:28:16 am
I read once where he used 200 year old tombstones to compare weathering patterns on the KRS. This seemed strange to me, as it was not uncommon to place a tombstone on a grave or change one out decades after the time of death. Odd scientific choice to pick a control not knowing the exact history of the material.
mmmm
1/6/2015 08:32:48 am
he tries to find similar materials and a known
John Dunham
1/6/2015 08:42:01 am
While there is a simple logic in the idea that an older carving would be more worn than a newer one.
mmmm
1/6/2015 08:42:21 am
prior to the year 1800 as a rough rule of thumb, there
B L
1/6/2015 08:44:04 am
mmmmm: There are many things Scott didn't take into account when dating the KRS. The KRS was found in 1898. Between 1898 and 2001 (when Wolter first laid eyes on it) the KRS had been handled by an uncounted number of people. Ohman himself gouged the runes with a nail. It had been transported thousands of miles. It had been washed and prepped for display in several museums. If you believe the legends it spent time as a doorstep in Ohman's barn. on top of all of this, Scott didn't really know the provenance of the tombstones he tested. Any or all of these factors and many more could contribute to how old the KRS appears to be. Heck, one good undocumented acid wash could account for what Wolter believes is 500 years of aging.
mmmm
1/6/2015 08:51:46 am
Good point!!! Did the students give their stone an acid bath,
John Dunham
1/6/2015 08:55:24 am
even taking into account that the stone is pristine, looking at chisel marks is probably not the best way to date something. It would be better to date the pollen and other organic compounds found in conjunction with the stone.
Rick
1/6/2015 03:59:29 pm
I found EP's urban dictionary reference but wasn't able to find yours. What number is it? How far down do I need to scroll to find it?
Rick
1/6/2015 04:11:27 pm
Oops! That was for the next thread down. Doesn't matter anyway.
Steve StC
1/6/2015 01:10:22 pm
Reeeeaasssllly B L ???
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Rick
1/6/2015 02:18:44 pm
I missed the place above where BL said he didn't read the book.
EP
1/6/2015 02:26:55 pm
Man, looks like Steve just pulled a St. Clair... Wait, no, that's not what a "St. Clair" is:
Steve StC
1/6/2015 03:11:13 pm
Emergency Poop (EP), as usual your comments move the ball down the field (in the wrong direction) - (sorry Jason, another football reference, I know how you hate football players),
Steve StC
1/6/2015 03:17:41 pm
BTW, Emergency Poop (EP) - (a reference from Urban Dictionary, which EP is fond of quoting) needs to remember that the name "Jason" is also on Urban Dictionary - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jason&defid=4766106
Paul
1/6/2015 03:35:57 pm
Steve, did Wolter reach out to you in the last few days to defend him here?
SteveStC
1/6/2015 03:43:48 pm
Paul (or whoever the hell you are), no.
Paul
1/6/2015 04:13:28 pm
"SW has made it clear to me that he thinks none of you are worth the time."
tm
1/6/2015 04:14:45 pm
Oh! Steve! Now I know who you are! You're the guy who was standing around drooling over the results from the "long range locator"! Must be kind of hard to shoot fish in a barrel when you're firing blanks.
SteveSTC
1/6/2015 04:38:09 pm
TM (or whoever the hell you are), oooouuuchhhh !!! You got me. “drooling” ouch !
EP
1/6/2015 05:18:31 pm
"SW has made it clear to me that he thinks none of you are worth the time."
tm
1/6/2015 06:03:33 pm
Okay, Steve. Let's move the conversation down the field. While you were standing around that day, Scott Wolter was actually directing drilling operations based on results from a long range locator. Long. Range. Locator. Don't like those three words, how about three more. Sandia National Laboratories. And three more: double blind studies. On national TV, Scott Wolter advocated the use of a "machine" that was proven to be fraudulent more than 15 years ago. That's not hate, Steve. That's science. You were there! So please tell me, why in God's name would anybody want to read anything written by someone like that? Why should anyone take his "science" seriously?
EP
1/6/2015 06:10:50 pm
"You're the guy who was standing around drooling over the results from the "long range locator"!"
Kal
1/6/2015 08:12:22 am
You found the 1985 one too! Yay. They faked that one in modern times, aye.
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Dan
1/6/2015 08:27:37 am
Actually it was me, "Dan" who pointed to the USA Today article, not "Dave".
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1/6/2015 09:55:33 am
My apologies. My typing is terrible. I've fixed it so I can give you proper credit. Thanks!
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Clete
1/6/2015 09:31:19 am
Ah, Scott Wolter and his "scientific analysis". I look at a rock. I pound it with a hammer. I look at it through a glass. I take all of thirty-six seconds to do this. I then look steely eyed and pronounce that it is old, probably a land claim by Viking or Knights Templars. I then complain when no one takes my finding seriously, because I are a "forensic geologist".
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Jason D.
1/7/2015 06:47:49 am
I heard while he was working on that, he found an inscription that said '20t.. Fl..r.' which he pronounced as an ancient land claim.
EP
1/6/2015 10:35:59 am
One place to look for details of Wolter's "techniques" would be "Ancient American":
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Only Me
1/6/2015 03:28:17 pm
I see His Lowness, Steve St. Clair, has resurfaced and picked up where Phil Gotsch left off in 2013...peddling Scott's KRS book and proclaiming it "critical research".
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SteveSTC
1/6/2015 03:37:57 pm
Wow, Only Me (or whoever the hell you are) nice response without addressing anything of value.
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Only Me
1/6/2015 03:54:49 pm
Actually, I addressed your wasted efforts here. But, I see your point. It's easy to spot a fail troll.
Dan
1/6/2015 03:57:51 pm
I haven't read it.
SteveStC
1/6/2015 04:24:30 pm
Well, Dan (or whoever you are), I recommend reading the material written by those you are piling onto. But here, among like-minded acolytes, it’s not necessary. Just jump right in. The comments on Jason’s hate blog used to be populated by people like Crabby who at least were angry, failed academics. Now it’s just a bunch of anonymous acolytes. I never thought I’d miss Crabby. At least he was a somewhat worthy opponent. This bunch is actually pathetic.
Dan
1/6/2015 04:35:52 pm
So you don't know.
Only Me
1/6/2015 04:44:25 pm
"At least he was a somewhat worthy opponent."
John McNair
1/6/2015 04:46:17 pm
"Steve"
SteveStc
1/6/2015 04:52:34 pm
Well, Dan (or whoever you are), I read the book in 2008, when Scott was part of our Atlantic Conference - AtlanticConference.org - and I have scrolled through it a few times since. I don’t recall the word you found in 30 seconds of Google work with your keyboard - "opþagelsefardþ." So I went to the index of the book - "The Kensington Rune Stone, Compelling New Evidence."
SteveStC
1/6/2015 04:57:55 pm
Hi John McNair,
Dan
1/6/2015 05:00:44 pm
Of course the fringe book doesn't reconcile the use of opþagelsefardþ. Its a word that doesn't have any provenance in the middle ages and comes right out of an 1880's book about Vinland. Essentially, its the smoking gun that dates the "rune stone" to the late 19th century.
SteveStCC
1/6/2015 05:05:57 pm
Only Me (or whoever you are)
SteveStC
1/6/2015 05:10:58 pm
Dan (or whatever your real name is), You are free to call my ancestry fake, but you do so at your own peril. You see, I use something known as footnotes. So if you care to wade into my research honestly, which of course you will not do, you will find that you are not on a comfortable perch (to quote my former friend Crabby).
EP
1/6/2015 05:13:10 pm
Oh, noes! Not FOOTNOTES!!!
Paul McNair
1/6/2015 05:53:51 pm
Steve,
Only Me
1/6/2015 05:55:04 pm
Sorry, Your Disgrace, I didn't mean to *harden* your resolve.
B L
1/7/2015 02:56:14 am
Wow....a lot of activity here since I last checked in yesterday....
Jason D.
1/7/2015 06:52:13 am
Steve;
EP
1/6/2015 05:03:17 pm
By the way, for those of you who would like to put a name to the face:
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SteveStC
1/6/2015 05:08:08 pm
Very good EP.
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EP
1/6/2015 05:09:35 pm
I wouldn't expose myself to a St. Clair, that's public indecency.
Ed
1/7/2015 09:11:22 am
I can't believe in your complete arrogance you would assume he was using a keyboard! He could have been using Dragon Naturally Speaking. And then to bring that unresearched assumption and spout it out as fact! You should be ashamed.
EP
1/6/2015 05:08:12 pm
Also, Steve St. Clair has made the news!
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EP
1/6/2015 05:16:06 pm
This story is pretty awesome.
SteveStC
1/6/2015 05:18:57 pm
And now you see how easy it is to be a xenonarchaeologist, everyone. You just aim your keyboard at a subject and let Google do all the work.
EP
1/6/2015 05:21:12 pm
Tell us more about how 9/11 made you research your Jesus blood. I'm sure it's a eye-watering, but ultimately life-affirming tale.
SteveStC
1/6/2015 05:24:43 pm
Well thanks so much for the opportunity to promote my DNA study, Emergency Poop (EP),
SteveStC
1/6/2015 06:32:53 pm
Actually Emergency Poop (EP), I know you thinks it’s all about you, but I think the most insulting thing I said [sic] (wrote) was “And now you see how easy it is to be a xenonarchaeologist, everyone. You just aim your keyboard at a subject and let Google do all the work.” IMHO
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TR1221
1/7/2015 08:27:50 am
You mean there really is such a thing as a forensic geologist.
EP
1/6/2015 06:16:01 pm
In this thread: Steve St. Clair courageously thows his own pasty butt onto yet another grenade meant for Scott Wolter. Also, Steve St. Clair still can't think of anything more insulting than poop.
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Only Me
1/6/2015 07:24:02 pm
Don't worry about it. Steve once called this blog a "fetish site"...AFTER he obsessed, for weeks, over Tara Jordan using fecal sandwich in a prior comment.
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EP
1/6/2015 07:30:39 pm
Why would I worry about something so amusing?! :)
Only Me
1/7/2015 03:32:53 am
Agreed. It's almost as amusing as his failed attempt at "Gotcha!" in a reply to one of my comments. I mean, he went to all the trouble of searching merriam-webster.com for the phrase "consensus of opinion", when my EXACT words (this is important, because it's a sticking point with Steve) were "consensus opinion".
Jason D.
1/7/2015 06:56:12 am
"Also, Steve St. Clair still can't think of anything more insulting than poop."
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Stevestc
1/6/2015 06:35:35 pm
Actually Emergency Poop (EP), I know you thinks it’s all about you, but I think the most insulting thing I said [sic] (wrote) was “And now you see how easy it is to be a xenonarchaeologist, everyone. You just aim your keyboard at a subject and let Google do all the work.” IMHO
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Only Me
1/6/2015 06:45:31 pm
"xenonarchaeologist"
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EP
1/6/2015 07:07:29 pm
Man, Steve St. Clair must be *really* angry. I mean, why else would he multi-post the same ungrammatical message, wherein he quotes a different post of his?...
Marius
1/7/2015 07:02:19 am
Do you know how keyboards work?
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Billy St Clair
1/6/2015 07:57:28 pm
I just wanted to apologise for the behaviour of my brother.
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Will
1/6/2015 11:41:34 pm
Jason,
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EP
1/7/2015 03:37:06 am
This should help:
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Will
1/7/2015 04:43:22 am
Thanks EP, I'm looking forward to reading this.
B L
1/7/2015 03:01:57 am
Anyone else find it ironic that the language Steve St Clair uses here on Jason's blog in defense of his friend would get him banned over on Scott Wolter's blog? So much for taking the high road. I expected more from the direct descendant of my Lord and savior.
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EP
1/7/2015 03:17:59 am
"B L"? More like... erm... "Butt Licker"!
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B L
1/7/2015 03:54:07 am
Ha!! Now that was was miraculous! :)
EP
1/7/2015 05:03:19 am
I turn Steve's tears into wine! :D
Stephen
1/7/2015 08:35:40 am
You do better than him, then, he can only turn them into whine
Stephen Saint Clair
1/7/2015 04:10:14 am
So Jason Colavito (OR SHOULD I CALL YOU JASON COCK-LICK-VETO BECAUSE YOU CANT GET LAID HAHAHA) you've said something in this blog post that mentions someone who you have mentioned before! GOTCHA!
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Only Me
1/7/2015 04:13:19 am
That was actually a pretty good impression.
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Stephan St Clare
1/7/2015 04:47:59 am
I'm throwing the red challenge flag on that. I'm the real Sstc I haven't posted much today because im doing research on my new piece on Ron Jeremy.
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EP
1/7/2015 05:09:27 am
Does Ron Jeremy also have Jesus DNA?
J Adamson
1/7/2015 05:35:38 am
Well Ron has made his share of women shout out "Oh God!"
EP
1/7/2015 09:05:22 am
Steve St. Clair and Scott Wolter, being a couple of silly sausages:
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Clint Knapp
1/7/2015 09:26:39 am
Aye, I miss the days Steve could still form a coherent sentence. It made the whole production a little more enjoyable.
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Kal
1/7/2015 10:34:20 am
You've been feeding the trolls again everyone. This is an opinion board, not really a hate board. It takes someone of sheer low self worth to spend two or more days harassing this blog just because he doesn't like the methods used in coming up with an opinion and doing some research. But we cannot expect maturity or even rationality from some bloggers, as they have apparently gone off their meds and could be danger to themselves and others. We can assume, and I don't speak for all, and not for SW or JC, or any of them, that this STC poster has the mental rationality of a 12 year old, or might in fact be 12. This is not his fault surely, but he seems to get a rise out of all of you. He also likely gets a rise out of SW being onto something, which is fine. It's his opinion. It is not fine however to libel JC on his own blog an accuse him of things he didn't do, because one simply have a different opinion. This person STC should devote his ire to his own blog and rant about how he truly admires to the point of obsession the awesome glowing SW, his evident man crush. Trying to find out our identities would be stalking. He's not trying to act like a creepy uncle on the net making selffies on his facebook of little dogs in football attire. He is also not a memer of any legit organization, scientific or otherwise. (I'm not either, so don't even try to stalk me). I just come here to amuse myself ranting about rants on History.
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Kal
1/7/2015 05:23:20 pm
That google plus account explains a whole lot about the guy posting as StC. Man crush on SW yes. Little kid no. Sadly obsesses with being right all the time, yes. Location explains it all too well. Still why come here and be a troll? This site it not defaming SW, the posters might be. "Thow doth protest too much. Out damned spot. MacBeth." Man crush. But in 2014 a man crush isn't that shocking.
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Joe Scales
1/8/2015 03:16:28 am
Steve... if you would really like to shoot fish in a bucket... or even a barrel... you should take a remedial logic class and then give Mr. Wolter's work a second look to see the multitude of fallacies contained in his reasoning. Even recently in his Great Wall of China blog he admitted the use of argumentum ad ignorantiam (appeal to ignorance) as his back-up reasoning of choice when confronted with contrary discourse. Because of his admitted reliance upon such faulty reasoning, the classification of which predates any rune stone he might stumble upon, any conclusions reached by him through such reasoning are necessarily suspect. As for buying his self-published book and reading same... if he's not going to submit his arguments for proper peer review (which he believes is some sort of vast conspiracy), why bother to be misled by him? Besides, asserting the validity of the Kensington Rune Stone would be like finding a hip-hop opera by Mozart and believing that to be legit as well...
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Kal
1/8/2015 07:16:19 am
I am thinking upon review of this that there are at least two StC's, and that the blogger account is the real Steve. This means the troll is pretending to be that Steve to get attention, and using an old blog nobody has updated since 2013 to do it. He figures nobody will check in with the real one, and is using his name. If both IPs go to the same source it likely it the same guy, and all the more a waste of time feeding into his bizarre rants here.
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11/29/2016 04:42:15 pm
What Kal said.
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