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Time Magazine Wonders Where Voters' Demon Pedophile Fears Come From

9/11/2020

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Time magazine carried a disturbing article yesterday about conspiracy theories and their growing impact on the 2020 electorate. In the article, voters described a variety of beliefs derived from Q-Anon conspiracy theories as well as the occult fringe of YouTube, including a number of references to former Ancient Aliens star David Wilcock’s “cabal” of parasitic blood-drinking liberal extraterrestrial elites who have long been a staple of Q-Anon culture under other names. I hate saying I told you so, but how many years of warning did we have about this coming intellectual apocalypse from the History Channel’s parade of shows stoking panic about demons by other names? How many years of warning did we have watching Wilcock build an underground following of millions of believers absorbing his snake oil about secret government blood-drinking extraterrestrial liberals?
Just for the record, Wilcock was spouting the nonsense about underground pedophile blood-drinking liberal elite alien cultists years before the October 2017 debut of Q-Anon, as I previously documented. His version, centered on Hollywood and Jews, derived directly from the (false) 1980s Satanic panic literature and Hollywood’s long (and actually partially true) history of sexual exploitation and abuse. The blood-drinking Satan-worshiping pedophiles in underground tunnels seem to come straight out of the infamous McMartin case of 1983-1990, where those exact allegations had been made against preschool staff through moral panic and damaging (and deceptive) hypnotic regression therapy. I’m not sure who was the first person to apply these themes to Hollywood or the Reptilian/alien “cabal,” but Wilcock’s use of the Q-Anon conspiracy material years before there was a Q-Anon shows how Q-Anon was able to take preexisting Ancient Aliens and Christian fundamentalist conspiracy theories and use them to give a spurious depth and history to a thin veneer of Trump-worship.
 
Just look at how Wilcock-style Q-Anon ideas have dribbled off the internet into everyday life. This example comes from Wisconsin:
On a cigarette break outside their small business in Ozaukee County, Tina Arthur and Marcella Frank told me they plan to vote for Trump again because they are deeply alarmed by “the cabal.” They’ve heard “numerous reports” that the COVID-19 tents set up in New York and California were actually for children who had been rescued from underground sex-trafficking tunnels.
 
Arthur and Frank explained they’re not followers of QAnon. Frank says she spends most of her free time researching child sex trafficking, while Arthur adds that she often finds this information on the Russian-owned search engine Yandex. Frank’s eyes fill with tears as she describes what she’s found: children who are being raped and tortured so that “the cabal” can “extract their blood and drink it.” She says Trump has seized the blood on the black market as part of his fight against the cabal. “I think if Biden wins, the world is over, basically,” adds Arthur. “I would honestly try to leave the country. And if that wasn’t an option, I would probably take my children and sit in the garage and turn my car on and it would be over.”
While both Q-Anon and Wilcock use “the Cabal” to refer to the evil alien/demon/liberals, it’s probably worth mentioning that the Cabal is a pretty close parallel to the Syndicate from The X-Files, whose mythology folded into Wilcock’s and Q-Anon. By 2000, the Syndicate was being referred to as a “cabal,” as evidenced by Jan Delasara’s use of the term in PopLit, PopCult and the X-Files (McFarland), possibly through contamination from ufologist Steven Greer’s use of “cabal” to describe his appropriation of X-Files mythology in the mid-1990s. The earliest reference I found to the modern idea was from 1995, but Otto Binder used the word “cabal” in 1967 to describe a UFO conspiracy in his What We Really Know about Flying Saucers, as did Randall Fitzgerald in 1979’s Complete Book of Extraterrestrial Encounters. All of that, in turn, seems to date back to mid-twentieth-century conspiracies about the Council on Foreign Relations as an “Invisible Government,” often referred to as a “cabal.” That ties it all back to traditional right-wing John Birch Society-style conspiracies, which take us a bit beyond our scope.
 
Time threw up its hands and said that they don’t understand why people believe these weird ideas. Believers themselves don’t always know the origins of their own ideas, pointing most often to “online” as the repository of secret wisdom. But there are decades of precedent that gradually built toward a complex belief system with each new tabloid article, media panic, and History Channel occult program. And this isn’t just an issue of people believing in a new satanic panic. It’s a massive problem for the very notion that Americans can even agree on the definition of reality:
“They’re not on the same epistemological grounding, they’re not living in the same worlds,” says Whitney Phillips, a professor at Syracuse who studies online disinformation. “You cannot have a functioning democracy when people are not at the very least occupying the same solar system.”
Recent surveys have found that a quarter of Americans believe COVID-19 is a planned conspiracy, and more than half of Republicans told Pew Research that they believe some or all of the Qanon conspiracy.
 
Time talked to a voter named Kelly Ferro who practices yoga in the morning and then spends several hours watching online conspiracy videos, taking them for a divine revelation of a glorious truth shining as brightly as Trump’s orange bronzer. “You can’t stop, because it’s so addicting to have this knowledge of what kind of world we’re living in,” she told Time. “We’re living in an alternate reality.”
 
And there it is, that old Gnostic hope, to break out of the pain and suffering of the physical world toward a more real one somewhere beyond. But I’ll be damned how anyone can think Trump is going to rend the veil and bring down the New Jerusalem. Well, St. John did say it would be covered in gold and encrusted with gaudy gems (Revelation 21:18-21), so there’s that.
96 Comments
Nick Danger
9/11/2020 10:29:38 am

We have reached the point technologically that the internet can, with some willing suspension of disbelief, allow us to be whatever we want to be. Apparently, a lot of people want to be superheroes, rescuing helpless children from evil supervillains.

Too many of these folks have fallen headfirst into their self-created world of delusion. Many have become dangerous, conflating their fantasy with real life, and plan (and sometimes succeed) in harming or killing others.

It's a serious problem, and it's only going to get worse.

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Jim
9/11/2020 01:32:26 pm

The internet has given snake oil salesmen a willing audience of billions of gullible customers. It has forever changed the way many con men operate, allowing them to make loads of money by volume.
Small sums of money from a multitude of marks rather than a larger monetary sting of a single sucker seems to be the new normal.

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Joe Scales
9/11/2020 10:36:25 am

I was surprised the Time article even mentioned Democratic embrace of conspiracy theories; though of course... downplaying them. And not surprisingly, you don't even recognize them to begin with, and continue your association fallacy driven politicking.

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Nick Danger
9/11/2020 11:24:51 am

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Jim
9/11/2020 01:23:29 pm

"But by far the greatest delusions I heard came from voters on the right. More than a third of the Trump supporters I spoke with voiced some kind of conspiratorial thinking."

Lol Joe,,,, " association fallacy",,, you mean like associating child sex rings and blood drinking Cabals to Democrats ?

https://owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-guilt-by-association/

"Guilt by Association Fallacy

A guilt by association fallacy occurs when someone connects an opponent to a demonized group of people or to a bad person in order to discredit his or her argument. The idea is that the person is “guilty” by simply being similar to this “bad” group and, therefore, should not be listened to about anything."

Don't forget the Corona virus is a hoax conspiracy pushed by the Trumpet, complete and utter nonsense nonsense.
195,000 dead Americans should at least clue you in, but not our Joe, oh no not our Joe.

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Kent
9/16/2020 03:28:18 am

Spoken like someone who was not around for the 1969 flu epidemic,

Oops!

Bama Dillert
9/11/2020 02:11:29 pm

The most well-known and idiotic conspiracy theories are associated with the right wing. We shall have to agree to disagree on whether this constitutes downplaying leftwing conspiracy theory. Do you think that focusing on the current covid epidemic means that we are downplaying ingrown toenails?

Be sweet.

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Tim bridges
9/11/2020 06:45:30 pm

Doesn’t change the fact it’s mostly right wingers who think this obvious bollocks, and doesn’t change the fact that they’re in government right now. And have a chance of consolidating their foothold in power in November.

Do you want people like that in power?

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Bezalel
9/13/2020 09:08:14 pm

It's like giving the car keys to a 5 year old. These people are not ready for responsibility and they certainly are NOT ready to defend/protect/promote the freedoms of ALL citizens, regardless of creed, gender, orientation, level of success etc.

Brian
9/11/2020 12:43:31 pm

Yeesh, kind of wished I hadn't checked your blog today. This is so depressing.

We have a society whose entertainment is now largely based on toddler fantasies of superheroes and cartoons, fantasies and horror movies; where Halloween is close to the biggest holiday; and playing games and playing dress-up are preoccupations for a major part of the "adult" population. We have become precisely what Neil Postman and so many others warned us about. And while this is not the result of any conscious "conspiracy," it is certainly the result of the efforts of the advertising industry to infantalize us all in order to make us vulnerable to buying any crap they come up with.

So here we are, a nation of two-year-olds in adult bodies, with adult-sized debt from buying all the toys, unable to understand that there are more important things than our petty desires, unable to empathize with and understand others, putting our precious egos and momentary whims above everything, and ready to believe anything that pushes our particular buttons, and not just believe, but kill for it, too.

Thank you, capitalism. Thank you, television. Thank you, people like Joe Scales with their blinkered insistence on their superiority to anyone who gives a crap.

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Martin Stower
9/11/2020 07:12:17 pm

Thinking about this. The entertainment industry, certainly, but I do not believe that SF fans and cosplayers are the problem. Rather those unable to find an outlet in fantasy known to be fantasy: the simple-minded, literal-minded and just plain stupid. For these the “infotainment” of Ancient Aliens and worse.

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Lyn McConchie
9/13/2020 03:37:26 pm

I've been a member of fandom since 1980 in my country. (And writing SF/F since 1990) The interesting thing about some of this is that no one I know in fandom believes any of this. They are in fandom to enjoy SF/F, not to live out such dopey falacies.

Martin Stower
9/11/2020 06:44:42 pm

The (sick) joke is that the execs who presided over this infotainment stultification/radicalisation likely believed that the public isn’t stupid enough to believe it.

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Martin Stower
9/11/2020 06:55:20 pm

1920: “They wouldn’t let them print it if it weren’t true.”

2020: “They wouldn’t let them put it on the Internet it if it weren’t true.”

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Alphard Grape
9/11/2020 07:47:49 pm

In the late 1970's "60 Minutes" ran several stories regarding blonde-haired, blue-eyed girls being kidnapped in the US and sold into sexual slavery in Saudi Arabia. I don't recall hearing anymore about it after 1980.

Speaking from my generation's experience, Tipper Gore is to blame. Tipper had several moms convinced 80s hair bands were satanic. The biggest ripple was caused when guys realized C.C. DeVille was a dude. I still think he inspired the Aerosmith song "Dude Looks Like A Lady".

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Hilda Hilpert
9/17/2020 11:21:54 am

Oh yeah, I remember that one, and the McMartin case. Are there people who are true satanists with the whole blood thing, the Black Mass, which is parody of the Catholic Mass, etc. sure. But they aren't spouting off about it on tv and do whatever they do in great secrecy.
Anyhow, there are gulliable people everywhere. Look at the Inquistion and the witch trials back in the Middle Ages and later. How many innocent people were killed because of the local lookyloos, who may have in some instances used this as a way to get back at a relative or neighbor. People today aren't any better than folks back then, only these crazy ideas can spread fadster through the tv and internet.
And speaking of gnostics, the only way to break out of this vale of tears is to follow the teachings of Christ. I find the Cathars, even though I'm Catholic, to have some attractive teachings.

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Not Kent
9/11/2020 08:57:39 pm

Hey, J.

Love to be able to have your above thoughts^^

May I humbly suggest that Ingo Swann may have fallen off your radar?

Had a feeling, is all.

👍

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AMHC link
9/11/2020 10:41:22 pm

I’m with Brian and almost wish I hadn’t read the blog. I joined Parler....and yes, it’s an echo chamber that would be improved by the addition of a liberal with a following of at least 50,000. They are offering a bounty of 20 grand if you all know anyone that fits the bill whose willing to cross over. Beyond that, this is the reality of German Idealism in political form folks. I keep thinking of the 1993 book Why we are not Nietzscheans as a bell weather that claimed (falsely) to warn about what brought this on but that’s possibly unfair. You can criticize it for its “organic flaws” all you want but “Think locally and act globally” applies in the life of the average person. Even when the will to act outstrips the ability to effect change. The fact is there is a sex trafficking pandemic. Check the numbers. I’m not going to quote anything, and while you all sit throwing shade, “some people did something “ and they are TRAFFICKING CHILDREN and ADULTS. Look at how many children go missing each year in just the US alone. Don’t look at any numbers other than that and tell me what do you think the people taking these children believe? What code do they live their lives by? I’m in full agreement it need not be Satanism but fascist is a term that typically involves the willingness to kill those deemed imperfect to better the lives of those deemed worthy. Don’t bother replying. I’ve not said anything reply worthy. But do the world a favor and LOOK UP THE NUMBERS OF MISSING CHILDREN IN THE US. Look at how many busts Trump has overseen. If you don’t see a problem, you need to look in the mirror.

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max
9/12/2020 01:49:18 am

It’s because a) they’re scared of people taking away ‘their way of life’, b) they don’t know what to believe anymore, because the internet offers too much information, and it’s easier to fixate on a bubble than look at all of it, c) because people are fanning the flames of FUD, d) increasing marketing of social media sites as ‘the only’ place to be

The more disjointed the online world gets, the more likely we’ll have factions believing absolute nonsense - but nonsense that is the social norm for those factions. If you have an inkling Xanadu exists then by golly, you can find your tribe on the internet... and voila all your inklings have been confirmed. Nevermind those two women probably never saw evidence (photos, video, documents, news articles, etc) of blood-sucking cabalists, they went looking for proof of their beliefs and to them, they found it.

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AMHC link
9/12/2020 09:57:39 am

I agree Max

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Nick Danger
9/14/2020 09:52:40 am

+1

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Giant Vinnie Barbarino ovah here
9/12/2020 12:29:24 pm

Where did the Cylon originate? Battlestar Galactica, the text shelter specialist L. Ron, or some other source? I haven't seen Battlestar Galactica since it first aired. I recall the Cylons being reptiles who allegedly died out leaving behind robots also called Cylons. I seem to recall one reptile showing up.

I have no desire to sit through Battlefield Earth again but, recall the Cylons being giants like the space jockey race from Aliens. So...Are Cylons reptiles, robots, giants, or something else? The Battlestar Galactica Cylon concept isn't very different from the biological robot theory regarding some aliens.

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John
9/12/2020 11:26:58 pm

Surprised not to see a mention in the article or comments of the fundamental point that QAnon is basically a remixed version of the medieval Blood Libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Is this too obvious to mention? I would hope not. And of course the word "cabal" comes from cabala.

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AMHC link
9/14/2020 02:07:35 pm

https://theantidotearchive.com/dangerous-epistemology-adrenochrome/

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T. Franke link
9/13/2020 09:33:40 am

Surveys .... and how to read them.

"Recent surveys have found that a quarter of Americans believe COVID-19 is a planned conspiracy, and more than half of Republicans told Pew Research that they believe some or all of the Qanon conspiracy."

Now, if you believe that China intently released the virus, you are already in this 25 percent. I personally do not believe this, but it is not a very far-fetched assumption considering that it may indeed be a virus which (unintentionally) escaped a Chinese laboratory. (The latter is discuseed and no conclusive consensus has been reached, as far as I know. We simply do not know.)

And to believe in "some" of the QAnon conspiracy, .... this is easy, too. To do this, you only have to believe that the Democrats made the Russian collusion story up which in fact they did considering the astonishing weakness of their arguments.

This is like surveys of the type "Do you believe in Atlantis?". This can mean this, but it also can mean that. The question is simply not specific enough.

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Lyn McConchie
9/13/2020 03:57:34 pm

Jason said "The blood-drinking Satan-worshiping pedophiles in underground tunnels seem to come straight out of the infamous McMartin case of 1983-1990, where those exact allegations had been made against preschool staff through moral panic and damaging (and deceptive) hypnotic regression therapy."
And that's one of the huge dangers of this sort of claptrap. Back about then in New Zealand we had the unfamous Peter Ellis case, in which those were the accusations leveled at a man whose real fault seemed to be that he was an openly gay male working in the early childhood education area. He was ultimately convicted on just those accusations - so bewildering ridiclous I have never been able to undetsand how the prosecution could state them with straight faces - and was convicted and sentenced to six years. For tthe rest of his life until he died he tried to get the case reopened. This year the High Court has finally agreed although he died earlier this year. I look forward to hearing what those idiots who charged him have to say these days - about the secret tunnels (proved to have never existed) the sacrifice of a baby, (no missing baby ever known) the savage whipping of pre-school children (no injuries ever seen) and so on. I just wish that the authorities would change those who ruined this man's life by being so incredibly gullible.

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Charles Verrastro link
9/13/2020 10:05:31 pm

Even Jason nods sometimes. "The blood-drinking Satan-worshiping pedophiles in underground tunnels (first) seem to come straight out of the infamous" reports of the early Christians when they showed up in Rome. Damn debauched heathens.

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AMHC link
9/14/2020 02:15:12 pm

I’m on Parler, and I’ve found that the best way to challenge believers in the cabal is to ask them why they don’t have more faith in Jesus. Accusing them in having faith in Satan to be in control usually shuts them up and then you see them blink. Quite frankly, they’ve created a Surrealist environment and there are parallels to criticism of the body of Nietzsche’s work. It’s social engineering. Point blank. They are attempting something but I’m not sure how coordinated it is.

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Kent
9/14/2020 06:58:07 pm

In this instance specifically but also in general you sound like a lunatic.

AMHC link
9/15/2020 04:36:37 am

That’s your opinion Kent. I’m simply making observations as I see it.

Kent
9/16/2020 01:28:02 am

Hmmm. You're the only one so far who's mentioned the word "geek" or the word "fiction" and the two together. You may think everyone's talking about you but that's a delusion. Helpful hint: When you go out in public, no one is talking about you. They're talking about trivial stuff from their own life.

Kirk-Spock gay fanfic has been around at least since the early eighties.

Is AMHC your alter or are you AMHC's alter? Which one is possessed by the Jezebel spirit?

It's not all about you.

AMHC link
9/16/2020 04:07:43 pm

Kent you’ve confused my comment with someone else’s. At no point do I mention “Geek” or “Fiction”

Kent
9/16/2020 06:12:23 pm

You may think everyone's talking about you but that's a delusion.

AMHC link
9/16/2020 10:09:41 pm

I hate to break it to you Kent but the First Time a member of my family who happened to be a MD and TRANS CULTURAL PSYCHOTHERAPIST told me that being gay was not a choice I was probably 12. I have a step brother whose biological father divorced his mother in order to marry a man. He retired from the Air Force after that and my father picked up his discarded wife and whisked her away. I don’t care WHY you saw a need to interject homosexual Star Trek references into a conversation that wasn’t about them in the first place but I am certainly calling you a GOD DAMED BIGOT NOW. If you have never heard of The Log Cabin Republicans I suggest you Google them you piece of S:&t

Hilda Hilpert
9/17/2020 11:29:09 am

I don't think you're nuts AMHC in anyway. I agree with you.The Bible talks about there will be wars, and rumors of wars. Jesus and the apostles speak of wolves in sheeps clothing and false teachers and prohets and how we are not to listen to them.Sometimes I think our society is getting dumber every day.

Kent
9/17/2020 05:21:30 pm

Wow, endless issues. Think people are talking about you, mandatory homosexuality, Jezebel spirit, anger bubbling, hatred of Star Trek fanfic, and of course profanity. No wonder people talk about you.

Nerd11135 ("An Anonymous Nerd," rebranded)
9/14/2020 08:46:56 am

Well let's see here....Just a general reply, trying to debunk some of the bunk others have spread.

RE: Mr. Scales and his ongoing false equivalence of the conspiratorial elements of the Left and Right.
As Mr. Colavito and I repeatedly have pointed out there is a clear and long-standing connection between the Fringe and the Right. I'm a little impressed that Time noticed this too, citing some of the same material I've cited many times here, but un-surprised that they, in the name of fairness I guess, also buy into the false equivalence to some degree. The funny thing of course is that y'all won't ever give them credit for it, continuing to consider them as the "liberal media" that's part of the "deep state" conspiracy. (I note that Trump administration officials are starting to use that precise terminology.)

RE: Connection between geek fiction and conspiracies
No. The Time piece cites some of the same academic history that I do -- which considerably predates geek fiction. I have seen no obvious indication of all that much crossover between QAnon, other Conservatives, and geeks/nerds such as myself. Granted I've seen some (always shocked when I find folks dragging Trump rhetoric into discussions about certain events in the video game "Skyrim," for example) but nowhere near enough to support such a hypothesis. The connections are far stronger, and clearer, to historical elements of US politics than to, say, "Avengers: Endgame."

RE: COVID 19 being made in a lab
No. Here's one link:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/07/13/heres-how-scientists-know-the-coronavirus-wasnt-made-in-a-lab/
(Conservatives hate it when I link to Snopes but one, I don't care, two, if you don't like them check their footnotes and dispute their logic -- usually you can't except when they're bending over backwards to be fair to you, three in this case they're reprinting someone else's article anyway.)
Here's another link:
https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-how-we-know-coronavirus-was-not-made-in-the-lab
Is China capable, scientifically and politically, of doing such a vile thing? I reckon so! But there's no evidence that they did. (I'm amused by their pathetic suggestion that we did it to them.)


And that's all I got time for.

It's depressing to see how far this stuff goes that folks post stuff here, of all places, that muddies the waters.

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T. Franke link
9/15/2020 08:04:27 am

Nerd11135, just to clarify two things:

the seriously discussed possibility is not that China "made" the virus. It is about that it escaped from the renowned Wuhan virus lab, but was not made there. Significant difference.

The idea that certain political affiliations are closer to nonsense than others is nonsense. They all have their inclinations towards the irrational. History gives enough proof of this. I do not explain this. Intelligent people are able to realize this on their own.

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Nerd11135
9/15/2020 11:33:56 am

Bunk. Debunk. More Bunk. Eventually I'll get too depressed and tired to respond and go away. (Soon enough, I'm sure.)

RE First attempt at a point, here's your likely source.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/gop-memo-anti-china-coronavirus-207244
and here's a better one.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anthony-fauci-wuhan-lab-coronavirus-source-dismissal/
No need to jump to the extraordinary (escaped from lab) when the ordinary (species to species jump) will do. For it to have "escaped" from a lab it would've had to have existed to begin with and once it exists, species to species jump is just way more likely than escaped from a lab. Or was released.

RE second attempt at a point, here is my now-standard list of examples and further explanation of the connection. False equivalence is cute and all and is a sadly effective tactic, but that doesn't make you right, just makes you win. That's more than enough for most, I suppose. Scott Wolter has around a million people watching him on television, VonDaniken's sold well, and Ancient Aliens gets good ratings. Winning! *shrugs*

(The following text was copied and pasted from a similar but not identical context so it might or might not be appropriate in details, but the gist is the same. Next time I'll have to add the mainstreaming of QAnon.)

The rightist politics of the ancient aliens folks. The denial of Evolution. The denial of Global Warming. The perpetuation of conspiracy fantasies about Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton (Vince Foster didn't kill himself, the existence of a "Clinton list" of people he's supposed to have murdered, etc.). The Alex Jones empire and the fringe foundation it's built on. The relationship between President Trump and Jones. The current President's obsession with taking things back and making stuff 'great' again (referencing certain concepts in fringe history, as Jason has demonstrated a few times here). The current President's wondering why the Civil War had to happen and why no one is asking that question (lots of stuff written about the causes of the Civil War actually). The current President's equation of the Founding Fathers and the leaders of the Confederacy (I refer to the statue controversy). Glenn Beck's embrace of the theory that the American Indians were descended from the Lost Tribes of Israel and wrote in Hebrew. Glenn Beck's embrace of various conspiracy theories involving the founder of the Federal Reserve, Bill O'Reilly's attempt to whitewash (ho ho!, see what I did there) the horrors of slavery (reference is to the "slaves who built the White House" comment). The Conservative mainstreaming of the QAnon and "White Replacement" conspiracy fantasies. The President's "very fine people" remark about White Nationalists in the wake of a murder. The Conservative mainstreaming of the "Epoch Times" and, presumably, the underlying ideology of it. Tucker Carlson's attempt to call White Nationalism a hoax even in the wake of the El Paso incident. Your own embrace of a wild conspiracy fantasy which I have pointed out elsewhere.

For a fuller explication of the historical connections between the fringe and the Right, I refer you to Richard Hofstadter's "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" and "Anti-Intellectualism in American Life." I forget just how focused both works were on the Right (been a long time since I read them), they may have bent over backwards to be fair (which is not necessarily a bad thing, to be sure).

The Left Fringe exists to be sure. However Lefty fringe things are called out for being what they are, whereas Righty fringe things are well-funded and considered mainstream. (Example one: Hillary Clinton's "vast right wing conspiracy" comment is held up for ridicule to this very day, whereas the History Channel and Alex Jones make millions off of way, way worse things. Example two: Hillary Clinton's consultation with a psychic, and I'm being generous to the right in characterizing it this way [this is the Eleanor Roosevelt thing], was ridiculed way, way more than the Reagans's consultation with Astrologers.)

T. Franke link
9/15/2020 04:46:20 pm

I am astonished about this very one-sided view of the world you have. You could do better.

"However Lefty fringe things are called out for being what they are"

Good joke.

Flo
9/15/2020 11:41:43 am

President Trump could raise someone from the dead and within a few hours he would be denounced across the liberal media for practicing medicine without a license.

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Martin Stower
9/15/2020 03:03:30 pm

Another Trumpette confusing Trump with Jesus.

Flo
9/15/2020 07:28:49 pm

Another lefty with even fewer brain cells than Biden who can't understand sarcasm.

The liberal media pushed the false narrative that the President is mentally ill and should be removed from office. The liberal media fawned over Michael Avenatti as a prospective presidential candidate. The liberal media promoted Schiff's lie about concrete proof of President Trump's collusion with Russia. The liberal media devotes as little coverage as possible to President Trump's successes at fostering peace in the Middle East. When something goes wrong in a state or city with liberal leadership the liberal media blames President Trump. When something goes right the liberal media praises the liberal leadership. The liberal media spins strange theories every time President Trump has a physical or meets with a doctor.

If there is any conspiracy in the media it is within the liberal media that is upset because the liberals lost an election where a shitty candidate ran a shitty campaign.

Martin Stower
9/15/2020 10:25:29 pm

Another nitwit Trumpette reveals the limitations of her imagination, in which everyone lives in the USA and everyone fits into the facile categories of her politics-for-dummies.

Not quite bright enough to realise that her conscious, intended sarcasm served only to blind her to what she was letting slip: that in her fantasies, Trump is Jesus—an identification I have seen again and again when Trumpsters have tried to argue a point with imaginary examples.

Her parochial rant about US media I pass over as being of no relevance or interest to me.

Flo
9/16/2020 12:19:39 pm

In other words you have nothing. Even as I type this the liberal media is frantically working to downplay the historic agreement signed yesterday and brokered by President Trump. If a liberal had brokered the exact same thing the liberal media would be demanding a Nobel Prize for the accomplishment. Everyone knows that and no amount of spin by you will change that.

Martin Stower
9/16/2020 02:48:18 pm

Still not got that I do not live in your country and do not share your parochial obsession with US media?

Evidently so.

You are talking past me to someone you have imagined. Such is the wall of stereotypes you place between yourself and reality.

The White House speaks very highly of this “historic agreement” and some have echoed its wording. How historic it is, history will tell.

Disbelief
9/22/2020 08:43:38 pm

Trump has earned every bit of the hate he receives.
NERD11135, good post, relevant examples and valid references.
T. Frankie is being a lil bitch. Ignore him.

Martin Stower
9/22/2020 09:41:22 pm

TV clip not long ago: Trumpette saying (tearfully) “He’s here to save us!”

They really are this confused.

Joe Scales
9/15/2020 11:47:17 am

"Mr. Scales and his ongoing false equivalence of the conspiratorial elements of the Left and Right."

So, a false equivalence by pointing out that the article in question admits left wing conspiracies. Please. Children should not play with informal fallacies. Especially those who are blind.

"As Mr. Colavito and I repeatedly have pointed out there is a clear and long-standing connection between the Fringe and the Right."

You've done no such thing, you pompous ass. If I were your professor, I'd probably assign you a project to seek out and discuss leftwing conspiracy theories. You'd have a ton to choose from just in the last month alone given our election cycle. But you are blind. And not cut out for higher learning. And yeah, I know you don't have a degree. You are a pretentious pretender devoid of the ability to see outside of your own stilted politics. Sure, I could name these leftwing conspiracies. But your politics would not allow you to see them, and it would be a deep dive into the political wrangling that I've always held in great disfavor on this site. So I critique Jason accordingly... but you? My god. Give it up. You're just not smart.

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Martin Stower
9/15/2020 03:00:09 pm

If they have not “repeatedly pointed out that there is a clear and long-standing connection between the Fringe and the Right”—if rather they have “done no such thing”—what exactly is it you’re complaining about?

Nerd11135
9/15/2020 08:44:33 pm

https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-captures-gettysburg-ghosts-video-tour-civil-war-site

Bezalel
9/16/2020 11:10:55 pm

Scales you should know better.
You're coming off as a blind, utterly ignorant and pseudo-intellectual fool with your constant tripe and claims of equivalency

Anyone who does a little research into the history of conspiracy theories will come to the rational conclusion that the VAST majority of people who have published anything within this vane, going all the way back more than 250 years, stems very strongly from religious right wing politics...it is ridiculous to assert otherwise

Any survey of American Conspiracy theory through history is a walk in the "conservative" religious park of ironic and moronic pseudoscholarship

1700s
Augustin Barruel
John Robison
1800s
Anti masonry all over the place
Illuminati fears
Alex Hislop
Sergei Nilus
"Protocols of Sion"
Pope Leo Xiii (against modernism) and his successor Pius X
1920s/30s
Adolf Hitler Henry Ford, Louis T McFadden, Charles Lindbergh, Nesta Webster, Cardinal Caro Rodriguez, Compte de Poncins, Lady Queensborough, Clifford Douglas (the Social Credit guy)
All the right wing nutcases against FDR
1950s
The insane rabid McCarthy era
Ayn Rand
Catholic shuddering fear of communism and "atheist" soviet Russia
William Guy Carr (big reference here, father of all modern nutcase conspiracy theory)
1960s/70s
Gary Allen
John Birch
John Stormer
Eustace Mullins
1980s new world order claptrap
Constance Cumby
The anti Masonic ravings of Ralph Epperson and Texe Marrs
Jim Marrs
William Cooper
The outright claptrap idiocy of Pat Robertson
Randall Baer, Gary Kah, William T Still, Anthony Sullivan, Benjamin Freedman, Michael Howard, John Coleman, the list is REPLETE WITH AND DOMINATED BY conservative anti-liberal trash-intellectual biblically based dominionist CRAP...basic witch hunting all over again...and today their heirs are foaming at the mouth attempting to reverse everything Obama did, coupled with a near sexual attraction to trump as the Persian King Cyrus who will lead the country back to god and Israel to Jesus while simultaneously holding a disdain for the media and scientists. Anyone who believes in the devil is on the right wing, on the side of QAnon and historically anti-liberal...vast majority



There is no separating whack-job conspiracy theory and pseudoscience from the right wing just open your eyes to effing history.

Yes the academic kind 🙂

A scientific approach to conspiracy theory is usually taken up by academic liberals but very few have done it.
Carroll Quigley (1960s) comes to mind (great and absorbing books), HG Wells from the 30s, Paul Blanchard from the 40s and maybe Thomas Hobbes from the 17th century



Jim
9/17/2020 08:34:15 am

But Joe counters with excuses on why he cannot support his position.

" Sure, I could name these leftwing conspiracies. But your politics would not allow you to see them "


He's got nothing,,,,, nothing but claptrap rhetoric.

Martin Stower
9/17/2020 11:05:01 am

You don’t understand. It’s just that he’s too considerate of your feelings to prove that your politics would prevent you from seeing them.

Joe Scales
9/17/2020 11:08:58 am

Politics is a cesspool Jim. That you care to dabble within its partisan hypocrisy is wholly disqualifying for rational discourse. It's all I've ever pointed out to counter Jason's unabashed politicking on the site.

Embrace the stupid Jim. It suits you.

Jim
9/17/2020 03:02:41 pm

Joe Scales:

" That you care to dabble within its partisan hypocrisy is wholly disqualifying for rational discourse."

Except that I have told you countless times I am Canadian. I have no party preference in your election, don't care as long as it isn't Trump, who isn't a Republican anyway.
But carry on blaming partisan politics where none exist, par for the course with you.
Gotta blame something other than the obvious huh Joe ? When the truth smacks you upside the head and you refuse to believe it anywho, it's because you yourself are the one who is partisan.

Here is the truth, 200,000 dead, no end in sight, and since Trump's ego won't allow him to admit an error he's pulling the old switcheroo and trying to go for herd "mentality". If he pulls this off there will be not just hundreds of thousands dead because of his ego, but millions of unnecessary deaths.

Next up, as horrifying as the Corona virus deaths are, the larger overall threat is global warming, we are talking at least centuries of flooding, wildfires and God knows what else with Trump leading the charge to ignore science and purposely exasperating the situation. Trumps plan,,,, "It will get cooler".

Of course that brings us to the American oil problem.
With less than 10 years of reserves and an effort by Trump to remove and squander these oil reserves as fast as possible, in ten years you will not have viable armed forces without being under the thumb of foreign, oil rich countries.
It's not unlikely that a nationalistic and militant US would invade Canada for the large reserves we have in able to maintain their powerful world military standing.
A third world war is not out of the question and given global warming I shutter to think at the worldwide repercussions.

In a nutshell, it's not Republicans I fear but Trumpism and your BS about calling everyone that disagrees with you a partisan is just that BS, and a reflection of your own partisanship.

Joe Scales
9/18/2020 11:03:58 am

Right Jim. It's good vs. evil. As every partisan believes...

Jim
9/18/2020 01:22:47 pm

" It's good vs. evil."

Just so Joe.
This is why such a multitude of partisan Republicans have joined with the Democrats in a bi-partisan effort to support Biden in an effort to depose the lying, tyrannical sack of dog crap named Trump.

Your sad fall back position that everyone who disagrees with you is somehow a partisan Democrat is complete nonsense.
The fake position you try to portray showing you to be a neutral party above partisanship is as transparent as a pane of glass.

Joe Scales
9/20/2020 09:28:42 am

"Your sad fall back position that everyone who disagrees with you is somehow a partisan Democrat is complete nonsense."

Hate to go to the old rubber & glue fallback Jim, but given
the immaturity you display on a near constant basis, coupled with your painful imbecility, you leave me no choice. It is actually you, and the partisan cabal here, that take any criticism of your position to be from your political opposition. Not surprising you can't see it.

Now begone Jim. My ankles are sore...

Jim
9/20/2020 01:59:13 pm

Scales: ,," It is actually you, and the partisan cabal here"

Awesome, the first right wing conspiracy theory of the day.

Martin Stower
9/21/2020 04:38:35 pm

How do I join this cabal?

Kent
9/22/2020 10:10:55 pm

Mr. Nerdiiiest, you seem to have a laundry list of people who are nefarious, some would even say you've provided a partial list of left wing conspiracy theories.

This is one of the rare occasions when I have to side with Mr. Franke.

The Wuhan lab is a Level IV facility. There is precedent for dangerous material being "irregularly" removed from a Level IV facility, USAMRIID.

There's also the quite reasonable possibility that the virus was introduced to Wuhan by U.S. personnel.

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E.P. Grondine
9/15/2020 10:18:54 am

These people have no idea what is happening to their lives, and are just trying to fit together different pieces into a coherent narrative. It only gets scary when they have firearms.

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T. Franke link
9/15/2020 11:00:33 am

The Guardian about QAnon polls:

"For example, in March 2020, Pew Research found that 76% of Americans knew nothing about Q, 20% knew a little, and only 3% knew a lot. In August 2019, an Emerson poll found that only 5% of voters believed in QAnon. These numbers are very low even in comparison with other conspiracy theories we regularly poll on."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/18/qanon-america-conspiracy-theory

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Kal
9/15/2020 01:13:56 pm

Right wing shock host Alex Jones is indirectly to blame for the biry of QAnon. See Pizzagate stories. Jones fan went mad and tried to kill the alleged cabal under a pizza place, but there was none, and he was arrested. Jones was never charged.

Right wing shock host, Newt Gingrich claimed an obsession with cannibalism on his show, also right wing mainstream, and shouted that he would 'eat his neighbors' in the apocalypse. Ironically he got the peace prize? What the actual heck? And they claim there's a conspiracy. Seems they're doing a good job making it all up.

Both are mainstream to the alt right, and both reach millions of viewers.

Trafficking of people is a serious thing, and truly disgusting, and these people in the alt right are just projecting and denying that they probably don't really care about the people, or those who got stolen, not by aliens, but by cults and crazy people.

The alt right denied the COVID 19, but 3 million US sick and 200,000 dead smacks them in the face. The Woodward book is literally Trump confessing on tape, yeah, he didn't care, but knew it was serious, and didn't care.

Antifa, on the other, is nonsense. There is no cabal. The deep state does not exist.

If anything, if there were lizard men, which is silly, they would be Republicans. Just waiting for McConnell (who resembles a turtle) and Trump (who without the hair would resemble a Loveccraft Old One), to remove their masks and revel they;'re the aliens.

It would be like a cheesy X Files rip off.

If the deep state existed, it would be the Republican alt right. They would naturally blame it on the Democrats, instead of getting actual work done, like providing healthcare and paying off debts during the virus, and actually curing it, instead of selling snake oil.

And one of you is right in the comments, but probably didn't really ask one of them, 'So, if you believe in a Satantic cabal, don't you believe in Jesus also?" You can't have it one way.

More to that, if you don't believe in Voodoo, it does nothing.

Also if the hard right really believed in Jesus and 'practice what they preached' this would be a different world, and we wouldn't argue over fake conspiracies about alien cabals with vampires.

Jesus was not about exclusion, racism, soaking the rich, denying climate change, and denying citizen's rights.

And not, Christians are not supposed to be flat earther's either.

"Round this celestial ball' Bible line, says the Greeks in the New Testament knew it was round.

Or is it a conspiracy, Angent Mulder...puff.




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Kent
9/15/2020 05:02:47 pm

"Jones was never charged." Perhaps because of committing no crime?

"Right wing shock host, Newt Gingrich ... an obsession with cannibalism ... he would 'eat his neighbors' .... Ironically he got the peace prize?"

What parallel universe are you talking about Patient Zero?

"The alt right denied the COVID 19" in the sense you're using the word "denied" so did Anthony Fauci early on. Remember Trump was a racist for stopping flights from China on January 31.

It's funny that you have to go to the New Testament to get that the Greeks knew the world was round. "I'll take Common Knowledge for $400 Alex."

You sound like a crazy person.

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Charles Verrastro link
9/15/2020 05:07:49 pm

Actually, 'cabal' does come from Qabbalah, which simply means "received, as a tradition passed down in Hebrew. It came to signify people forming a secret subgroup much later.
I always preferred the quaint old term "combination", which really came into vogue in the early 1800s when people first realized they were being disadvantaged by powerful associations of Robber Barons and politicians who typically disguised their being in league while destroying competitors and creating unstoppable monopolies.
Early Mormon writings, by the way, use the term habitually. Comes from being virulently persecuted from the get go and perhaps being not a little paranoid in their outlook as many insulated cults seem anyway.

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Kent
9/15/2020 05:39:01 pm

I like "Rittenhouse".

Keep in mind that early Mormonism was all about sex with what would today be considered underage girls. They only stopped polygamy so Utah could become a state; it was literally a "SAY 'no more'" situation.

When Glenn Beck got sober he and his wife Tanya went shopping for a religion and CHOSE Mormonism. Apparently Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses and Catholics weren't crazy enough. Don't know why Judaism didn't make the finals. Apparently Latvian Orthodox was not in the running.

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Bezalel
9/18/2020 03:07:23 pm

Kent on Beck:
Lmao

4th and 5th gold plates
9/18/2020 04:05:32 pm

Could have chosen to become a Dunkard or a Mennonite. Went to school with one Mennonite girl who was taught black men had tails. She wound up having three mixed children in the first 2 years of college. At first, I couldn't figure out how someone could make it through life thinking like that. Then I realized I was surrounded by several men who couldn't read a write. I blame the educational system in general.

Kal
9/16/2020 01:14:31 pm

Alex Jones is the one suggesting he would eat his neighbors, but it was Gingrich who repeated it.

You can go to YouTube and play the clip. He sounds like a madman as usual.

Trump is pathological.

Try telling off the Flat Earth people sometime. They're nuts.

Climate change is real.

CoVid is real, and Trump knew it was serious, but downplayed it. That too is obvious, not just from Woodward's 19 phone calls.

The PizzaGate however was Jones' doing. He is the biggest most vocal supporter of their weird conspiracies.

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Martin Stower
9/17/2020 11:46:49 am

QAnon: I have to keep reminding myself that this is not 觀音.

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Martin Stower
9/17/2020 05:53:15 pm

Mention of Otto Binder. Otto Binder exemplifies the exceptional case of a science fiction author giving credence to UFOs and ancient astronauts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Binder

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Martin Stower
9/20/2020 10:27:04 am

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/18/qanon-conspiracy-theory-gaining-ground-in-uk-analysis-shows

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Jim
9/21/2020 12:15:14 pm

Perhaps a portion of the current problem with the right and their overabundance of conspiracy theories compared to the left is due to the fact that they (the right) have to make crap up against their targets whereas the left simply has to tell the truth to attack their targets.

Biden, Hillary Clinton, AOL, et al. don't have an abundance of any real known nefarious deeds in their history, if any, gotta make crap up.

Trump and his cohorts on the other hand are a walking, talking crime wave, the actual scandals and criminal acts they (most especially the President Of the United States of America) are involved in are numerous, widely known, and those that are unknown turn out to be low hanging fruit for reporters due to the predominance of stand up whistle-blowers and a multitude of eyewitness testimony. (The best is yet to come)
The left simply do not need to make crap up.

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Kent
9/21/2020 05:47:07 pm

"The left simply do not need to make crap up." Yet they do, Steele Dossier, cough cough. Thirty thousand emails on yoga classes and wedding plans, cough cough.

What a feeling of satisfaction it must bring to be able to bite ankles and pat yourself on the back at the same time.

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Jim
9/21/2020 07:31:13 pm

Sure Kent, sure.
Oh,, except the Steele Dossier wasn't a left wing conspiracy theory. Lol.
Ups-a-daisy Kent.

Kent
9/22/2020 07:07:33 pm

It certainly was "crap" that was "made up". Up your daisy.

Martin Stower
9/22/2020 07:41:55 pm

Sorry, I’ve lost track. Who’s making stuff up? Is it Kent?

Kent
9/23/2020 08:26:01 pm

Jim, meet Daisy:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/quebec-woman-identified-as-suspect-in-case-of-ricin-letter-mailed-to-white-house-1.5113407

Nerd11135
9/21/2020 12:17:11 pm

I sure hope that the comments section helps out Mr. Colavito's numbers. Because at this point, substantively, it's become little more than the Charge of the Fringe/Right Brigade any time Mr. Colavito writes something that offends them.

And, since they are an easily-offended bunch, they're here a lot.

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Joe Scales
9/21/2020 09:21:09 pm

Sure. Jason can learn much from fawning sycophants such as yourself, with only Google for an education, basking in his glow while attempting to climb upon his pedestal, so to speak. And speaking of taking offense... that's your bag Nerd. (sigh)

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Jim
9/23/2020 12:42:18 pm

The Complete and Unabridged Collection of Joe Scales Evidence for Left Wing Conspiracies in these Comments.

_______________________________________________

"I was surprised the Time article even mentioned Democratic embrace of conspiracy theories; though of course... downplaying them. And not surprisingly, you don't even recognize them to begin with, and continue your association fallacy driven politicking."

"You've done no such thing, you pompous ass. If I were your professor, I'd probably assign you a project to seek out and discuss leftwing conspiracy theories. You'd have a ton to choose from just in the last month alone given our election cycle. But you are blind. And not cut out for higher learning. And yeah, I know you don't have a degree. You are a pretentious pretender devoid of the ability to see outside of your own stilted politics. Sure, I could name these leftwing conspiracies. But your politics would not allow you to see them, and it would be a deep dive into the political wrangling that I've always held in great disfavor on this site. So I critique Jason accordingly... but you? My god. Give it up. You're just not smart."

"Politics is a cesspool Jim. That you care to dabble within its partisan hypocrisy is wholly disqualifying for rational discourse. It's all I've ever pointed out to counter Jason's unabashed politicking on the site.
Embrace the stupid Jim. It suits you."

"Right Jim. It's good vs. evil. As every partisan believes..."

"Hate to go to the old rubber & glue fallback Jim, but given
the immaturity you display on a near constant basis, coupled with your painful imbecility, you leave me no choice. It is actually you, and the partisan cabal here, that take any criticism of your position to be from your political opposition. Not surprising you can't see it.
Now begone Jim. My ankles are sore... "

"Sure. Jason can learn much from fawning sycophants such as yourself, with only Google for an education, basking in his glow while attempting to climb upon his pedestal, so to speak. And speaking of taking offense... that's your bag Nerd. (sigh)"
____________________________________________________

Random Commenter;

Would you care to provide some evidence rebutting my points Joe ?

Joe:

" My god. Give it up. You're just not smart. You are an idiot. Embrace the stupid. You pompous ass. But you are blind. And not cut out for higher learning."

Hey Joe, why can't you debate anything with fact, logic and knowledge ?
All you have are insults and empty rhetoric.

Kent
9/23/2020 07:56:04 pm

Reminds me of the lost Spinal Tap album:

"A Steady Diet of Ankle Meat"

Joe Scales
9/24/2020 09:50:28 am

"Hey Joe, why can't you debate anything with fact, logic and knowledge ?"

With the likes of you? Simply put, because it is beyond you Jim. I can't argue with crazy. I can't argue with stupid. My comments are for Jason, not you, and my complaint with him has always been the deep dive into partisan politics that discredit anyone claiming the mantle of debunker. And your go-to response is to attempt to engage me in partisan wrangling. That misses the point Jim, but such is your norm.

This is your obsession Jim. You're the one that has to answer nearly every post of mine, although I've told you that I will not attempt rational discourse with you. It is fruitless. Gone are the days when you followed Kent and I like the lapdog you are, while we poked fun at Wolter's mendacity. But even that you took to another level Jim. Cyber-stalking.

You are scary Jim. Unbalanced. I want nothing to do with you. So when you try to claim the high ground, you can have it. I'll only point out the obvious that you cannot see. You're not smart Jim. You're not clever Jim. And worst of all, you have absolutely no sense of humor. Just an overall uninteresting fellow who tries to make his mark nipping at my ankles. I can't carry you anymore Jim.

Jim
9/24/2020 01:16:36 pm

Joe:

" My comments are for Jason, not you, and my complaint with him has always been the deep dive into partisan politics that discredit anyone claiming the mantle of debunker."

Actually Joe, you have made countless complaints against Jason where you have twisted, changed or wrongly paraphrased what Jason said and then criticized him for things that he didn't even say but that you invented.
This repeated dishonesty is obviously driven by your own partisanship.

"And your go-to response is to attempt to engage me in partisan wrangling."

Joe I have repeatedly explained to you why I am not partisan.
You are obviously blinded by your own partisanship and/or stubbornness to even hear what anyone else says or even try to understand their points and then choose to respond with your tired old, worn out same old insults

What a boor you are, and not just here

I shall leave you with with some quotes of your same old,same old, bad behavior comments directed towards people on Andy's blog.
These quotes come from your one and only foray into Andy White's blog where you were pretty much run out out of the blog for your bad behavior.
Just more of the same tired old, boorish insults and you pretending to know more than your intellectual superiors.

https://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/hutton-pulitzers-ongoing-legal-threats-an-update#comments

Scales:
"Your characterization of the ABA is "simplistic," to put it politely. "
One, that wasn't polite. Two, membership in the ABA is voluntary. Three, the ABA takes political positions. Four, you're out of your element here.

Nathan Thurm:
"Mr. Scales,
You obviously are not a lawyer and you most certainly have never served on an ABA committee or program/individual external evaluation term. Therefore it would be pointless to walk you though how out of your element that you are here. And being correct is more important than being polite.
Have a nice day."

Scales:
"Quit pretending you know what you're talking about. You don't Your mind is powered by Google and you've said nothing that contradicts the facts I've presented above. I know you can't stop, but as a courtesy to Professor White, I can.
Till your next embarrassment..."

Joe Scales:
"Just to correct a misconception above. There is no stand alone major called "prelaw". You have to major in an actual field of study to be prelaw. That was the issue at the time and remains so.
Now please stop child. As a courtesy to Professor White."

Saluki;
"Sorry but no cigar. At the time my colleague posted the link to an actual pre-law major program. If I recall you then tried to move the goal post by making the irrelevant statement that there weren't very many such programs. Didn't matter since the issue was that of presence or absence. At the time your initial assertion was proven wrong and you did not handle it well. If I had the time to waste on something this silly I would dig up the link to that discussion on Colavito's blog that includes the information on the program and post it here. A fun read if anyone wants one of the better examples of why no one who is familiar with Scales online behavior takes him seriously.

My bet would be that in his next performance Joe tries to lecture a professional archaeologist about archaeology."

Scales:
"Saluki, you are a liar. The link provided by "Doc Rock" to a "prelaw" major was in name only. If you chose that program from that school, you would still have to pick a true academic major like Political Science, or what have you. You are dead wrong Saluki... and what the heck... go get the link and I'll show you and rub your nose in it accordingly.
As for you with the alias Nathan Thurm. You just represented to this forum that you are an attorney, and you are actually offering legal advice in doing so. Please state your full name and where you are licensed. If you can... "

Saluki
As I was saying, speaking of embarrassment.

Chad Olivier:
Please don't give Joe Scales any more attention than he has already recived here. Mr. Jason Colavito just had to institute a new moderation policy on his bog because of recent flame wars. Joe come in as a close second in discussions in the comments section of the blog about those whose poor behavior created the mess.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So long Joe, everyone knows who you are.
Joe Scales quote of the day:

"I've told you that I will not attempt rational discourse with you."

Why then Joe do you respond to me at all ?

Joe Scales
9/25/2020 11:12:37 am

"Why then Joe do you respond to me at all ?"

To prove to others that may not be familiar with your affliction that you are an obsessed cyber-stalker. Thanks for playing Jim. As in you got played. Again. With the evidence you provided above, I rest my case.

Jim
9/25/2020 08:29:30 pm

Lol Joe,, hahahaha.

I read Andy's blog and comment on it on regularly, have for years, you come on it once, get run off for your bad behavior and somehow I am stalking you.

You're a hoot Joe.

P.S. Stop stalking me.

Joe Scales
9/26/2020 09:32:49 am

Wrong again Jim; as is your want. I've posted dozens of times on Andy's site and had been there well before the 2016 election. That's just the point where you all lost your minds. But if you'd like to believe I just went there once and was driven off by you and your many monikers... good for you Jim. You get a cookie.

Now please stop Jim. You are an embarrassment.

Kent
9/26/2020 05:26:25 pm

Sounds like a daisy situation.

Joe Scales
9/27/2020 08:30:14 pm

Jim types the letter J into his search engine and it auto-completes my name.

Jim
9/27/2020 11:44:53 am

You are correct Joe, I was mistaken. You were on Andy's blog more than I remembered.
That said, It's no wonder I didn't remember your posts, I suppose I just glossed over your crap posts on Andy's blog as many were in exactly the same tired vein as you posted here, with the same predictable results of everyone disagreeing with you.
It was like déjà vu,,,, all over again.

https://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/the-alt-rights-cartoon-conceptions-of-the-human-past-now-do-you-understand-why-the-fetishization-of-fringe-ideas-matters

Joe Scales
2/1/2017 08:51:12 am
"I don't mind talking politics."
I don't either; just not with partisans. Do you really believe it's not "dirty" to associate white supremacy with your political opponents? Do you even realize the motivation for such stretches? Forgive my bluntness in this regard, but in my view it colors you as biased and rather naïve. A pity, because I really like this site.
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Scales: " you and your many monikers."

You are full of crap. And obviously paranoid.
I Have never posted using a different name on Andy's blog.
On one occasion, in a heated argument with you and your alter ego Kent/Disco Dan/AmericanNegro etc. etc. I humorously made a few posts under the name of "Joe Kent's Bane" or some such. Anyone with a brain larger than a peanut knew it was me being humorous. But you in your usual dishonesty have exaggerated this to continuously accuse me of posting under multiple aliases. It is of course nonsense.

You have insinuated I was posing as "Nathan Thurm" on Andy"s blog, hahahahahahaha.
Here is Nathan Thurm, you would have to be a complete moron or dishonest to think this is me.

Nathan Thurm:
"Saluki,
Law school admissions committees are not overly impressed with applicants with a Pre-law major. The logic is that it is too narrow of a focus too early in one's education. That is why most Pre-law programs of study consist of a traditional major such as Political Science with a concentration in Pre-law. A similar logic extends to Pre-Med. That is why there are not many schools offering a pre-Law major compared to those that offer the concentration.

On the other hand, there are schools like Cedarville, National and Michigan State (or maybe it is one of the directional schools in Michigan) that specifically identify themselves as offering Pre-Law majors and the B.A. in Pre-law or Pre-law studies.

Sometimes if comes down to an issue of semantics. It is quite common for students to identify themselves as Pre-Law majors, and to be viewed as such, even if they are in a Pre-Law concentration rather than an official major. So, to put a colloquial spin on things, saying "Pre-law major" is correct whether one is operating in the realm of De jure or de facto.

I earned my JD at a respected program, have 20+ years of practice, served as adjunct or visiting faculty at two universities, have published 8 articles in various law reviews, and have served on several ABA committees. A common problem people like myself face is dealing with non-attorney google warriors who think that reading a couple of paragraphs on Wikipedia gives them the same insights into the legal realm as professionals. Life is too short to get caught up in debates with these people. So I'm not going to afford Mr. Scales any more time in the spotlight. Maybe he would be better served by arguing these issues with the relevant institutions and organizations.

PS: All professional organizations are by definition "political." Saying the ABA is a political group is like saying that the Southern Baptist
Convention is a religious group. No kidding. Most professional organizations are voluntary and often only a small percentage of practitioners maintain active membership in them. But that doesn't prevent many organizations from being very powerful and influential and involved in a wide range of services and activities. Not the type of thing that a jailhouse lawyer would really understand."

https://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/hutton-pulitzers-ongoing-legal-threats-an-update#comments
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So there ya go Joe, see if you can convince anyone that is me.
Good luck.
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Scales: " the 2016 election. That's just the point where you all lost your minds."

Yes Joe, the whole world lost it's collective mind when Trump was elected,,,,,,, or you did.

Lets face it Joe, I am living rent free in your head. your answer to me is to call me names and make up crap, lol, your dishonesty is oh so obvious, as obvious as all your manipulations of Jason's words and then accusing him of things he didn't even say.
I must say it is quite comfortable living in your head, I thought it would be stifling in here, but not so, it is very airy with lots of empty space, I g

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Joe Scales
9/29/2020 09:25:03 am

Not sure if Jim wishes to live in my head or my pants at this point. This is not something a sane person does. So with that, I will step away from the lunatic. He'll keep going however. Jim cannot stop, as proven by his incessant off-topic blathering which only serves to pollute Jason's board. As if I wish to continue arguments I've already won.

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Jim
9/29/2020 01:04:30 pm

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

"Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it."

Kent
9/29/2020 06:32:29 pm

Ah, again with the recycling of the definitions. Joe's remark? Arguably only ad hominem if you're homophobic. Yours, however, about the empty head...

The Atlantis Expert
9/29/2020 02:54:26 am

Surely there are more than a few Jeffrey Epsteins who keep their activities low key and out of sight?

The Russian Empire had Rasputin, the Romand had their orgies, the Mormons in the 19th century and the Turkish emperors has their harems, and we have our own rich and powerful who engage in every imaginable sexual excess.

Why would our society be any different? This quaint idea that a certain segment of the population respect priorities like the age of consent is laughable.

Sure, not all social elites are like this. But some are.

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      • Chariots of the Gods at 50
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        • Erich von Däniken
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      • The Case of the False Quotes
      • Alternative Authors' Quote Fraud
      • David Childress & the Aliens
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      • Zecharia Sitchin's World
      • Jesus' Alien Ancestors?
      • Extraterrestrial Evolution?
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      • Who Lost the Middle Ages
      • Charioteer of the Gods
    • Collection: Ancient History >
      • Prehistoric Nuclear War
      • The China Syndrome
      • Atlantis, Mu, and the Maya
      • Easter Island Exposed
      • Who Built the Sphinx?
      • Who Built the Great Pyramid?
      • Archaeological Cover Up?
    • Collection: The Lovecraft Legacy >
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    • Scholomance: The Devil's School
    • Prehistory of Chupacabra
    • The Templars, the Holy Grail, & Henry Sinclair
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    • The Curse of the Pharaohs
    • The Antediluvian Pyramid Myth
    • Whitewashing American Prehistory
    • James Dean's Cursed Porsche
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    • Ancient Mysteries >
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        • Mesopotamian Texts >
          • Eridu Genesis
          • Atrahasis Epic
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          • Kutha Creation Legend
          • Babylonian Creation Myth
          • Descent of Ishtar
          • Resurrection of Marduk
          • Berossus
          • Comparison of Antediluvian Histories
        • Egyptian Texts >
          • The Shipwrecked Sailor
          • Dream Stela of Thutmose IV
          • The Papyrus of Ani
          • Classical Accounts of the Pyramids
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          • Manetho
          • Eratosthenes' King List
          • The Story of Setna
          • Leon of Pella
          • Diodorus on Egyptian History
          • On Isis and Osiris
          • Famine Stela
          • Old Egyptian Chronicle
          • The Book of Sothis
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        • Teshub and the Dragon
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          • The Secret of Creation
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        • Chinese Accounts of Rome
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        • Annianus on the Watchers
        • The Watchers and Antediluvian Wisdom
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          • Al-Maqrizi on the Pyramids
          • Al-Suyuti on the Pyramids
        • The Hunt for Noah's Ark
        • Byzantine World Chronicle
        • Isidore of Seville
        • Book of Liang: Fusang
        • Agobard on Magonia
        • Book of Thousands
        • Voyage of Saint Brendan
        • Power of Art and of Nature
        • Travels of Sir John Mandeville
        • Yazidi Revelation and Black Book
        • Al-Biruni on the Great Flood
        • Voyage of the Zeno Brothers
        • The Kensington Runestone (Hoax)
        • Islamic Discovery of America
        • The Aztec Creation Myth
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        • Atlantis >
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          • Panchaea: The Other Atlantis
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          • Atlantis as Biblical History
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          • Santorini and Atlantis
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          • W. Scott-Elliot >
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            • The Lost Lemuria
          • The Lost Atlantis
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          • How I Found Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Termier on Atlantis
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        • The Many Wives of Jesus
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          • Fossils and the Supernatural
          • Fossils, Myth, and Pseudo-History
          • Man During the Stone Age
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          • Mastodon, Mammoth, and Man
          • American Elephant Myths
          • The Mammoth and the Flood
          • Fossils and Myth
          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
          • History of Paleontology
        • Fragments on Giants
        • Manichaean Book of Giants
        • Geoffrey on British Giants
        • Alfonso X's Hermetic History of Giants
        • Boccaccio and the Fossil 'Giant'
        • Book of Howth
        • Purchas His Pilgrimage
        • Edmond Temple's 1827 Giant Investigation
        • The Giants of Sardinia
        • Giants and the Sons of God
        • The Magnetism of Evil
        • Tertiary Giants
        • Smithsonian Giant Reports
        • Early American Giants
        • The Giant of Coahuila
        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
        • Index of Giants
        • Newspaper Accounts of Giants
        • Lanier's A Book of Giants
      • Science and History >
        • Halley on Noah's Comet
        • The Newport Tower
        • Iron: The Stone from Heaven
        • Ararat and the Ark
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        • The Deluge
        • Crown Prince Rudolf on the Pyramids
        • Old Mythology in New Apparel
        • Blavatsky on Dinosaurs
        • Teddy Roosevelt on Bigfoot
        • Devil Worship in France
        • Maspero's Review of Akhbar al-zaman
        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
        • The Rock Wall of Rockwall
        • Fabulous Zoology
        • The Origins of Talos
        • Mexican Mythology
        • Chinese Pyramids
        • Maqrizi's Names of the Pharaohs
      • Extreme History >
        • Roman Empire Hoax
        • America Known to the Ancients
        • American Antiquities
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        • England, the Remnant of Judah
        • Historical Chronology of the Mexicans
        • Maspero on the Predynastic Sphinx
        • Vestiges of the Mayas
        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
          • Volume 1: Cosmogenesis
          • Volume 2: Anthropogenesis
        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
        • Traces of European Influence
        • Prince Henry Sinclair
        • Pyramid Prophecies
        • Templars of Ancient Mexico
        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Remarkable Discoveries Within the Sphinx (Hoax)
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • The Shaver Mystery >
          • Lovecraft and the Deros
          • Richard Shaver's Proofs
    • Alien Encounters >
      • US Government Ancient Astronaut Files >
        • Fortean Society and Columbus
        • Inquiry into Shaver and Palmer
        • The Skyfort Document
        • Whirling Wheels
        • Denver Ancient Astronaut Lecture
        • Soviet Search for Lemuria
        • Visitors from Outer Space
        • Unidentified Flying Objects (Abstract)
        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
        • Atlantis Discovery Telegrams
        • Ancient Astronaut Society Telegram
        • Noah's Ark Cables
        • The Von Daniken Letter
        • CIA Psychic Probe of Ancient Mars
        • CIA Search for the Ark of the Covenant
        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
        • CIA Report on Noah's Ark
        • CIA Noah's Ark Memos
        • Congressional Ancient Aliens Testimony
        • Ancient Astronaut and Nibiru Email
        • Congressional Ancient Mars Hearing
        • House UFO Hearing
      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
        • Premodern UFO Sightings
        • The Moon Hoax
        • Inhabitants of Other Planets
        • The Fall of the Sky
        • Blavatsky on Ancient Astronauts
        • The Stanzas of Dzyan (Hoax)
        • Aerolites and Religion
        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
      • Saucer Mystery Solved?
      • Orville Wright on UFOs
      • Interdimensional Flying Saucers
      • Poltergeist UFOs
      • Flying Saucers Are Real
      • Report on UFOs
    • The Supernatural >
      • The Devils of Loudun
      • Sublime and Beautiful
      • Voltaire on Vampires
      • Demonology and Witchcraft
      • Thaumaturgia
      • Bulgarian Vampires
      • Religion and Evolution
      • Transylvanian Superstitions
      • Defining a Zombie
      • Dread of the Supernatural
      • Vampires
      • Werewolves and Vampires and Ghouls
      • Science and Fairy Stories
      • The Cursed Car
    • Classic Fiction >
      • Lucian's True History
      • Some Words with a Mummy
      • The Coming Race
      • King Solomon's Mines
      • An Inhabitant of Carcosa
      • The Xipéhuz
      • Lot No. 249
      • The Novel of the Black Seal
      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
      • Edison's Conquest of Mars
      • The Lost Continent
      • Count Magnus
      • The Mysterious Stranger
      • The Wendigo
      • Sredni Vashtar
      • The Lost World
      • The Red One
      • H. P. Lovecraft >
        • Dagon
        • The Call of Cthulhu
        • History of the Necronomicon
        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
    • Classic Genre Movies
    • Miscellaneous Documents >
      • The Balloon-Hoax
      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
      • Crown Prince Rudolf's Letters
      • Position of Viking Women
      • Employment of Homosexuals
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