Update on the History Channel Meeting with Scott Wolter

4/17/2013

Last week I reported on a Facebook claim that History had reprimanded America Unearthed star Scott Wolter for his alternative history views. I spoke with a representative for History today, and the network says it has never spoken to Wolter about his views. The story reported by the Facebook fan page for America Unearthed is categorically false. Officials for the network confirmed that a meeting did take place in March, but this was to celebrate the show’s renewal for season two. Network officials, in fact, not only are proud of America Unearthed but also confirmed that they have no position on the claims made on the program. (Indeed, many network officials have not watched the complete series and were unaware of some of the more extreme claims made on the show.) According to the History spokesperson, History and H2 programs are intended as entertainment only and are not meant to be considered factual.

101 Comments

titus pullo

4/17/2013 01:33:32 pm

I think the program went off the deep end at the end of the season. I think the ratings will plummit and the program will be 2 and done. Serously...it is sort of like "finding bigfoot"..after one episode you realize they haven't and if they did you would hear about it in the news before the episode. Too bad since I think they could have approached this topic with a critical eye and focused on debunking all these pre columbian artifacts...when they found one they couldnt or was ambigious..that would then be interesting...

Shawn Sinclair

5/20/2013 05:06:07 pm

Het " titass"...A for effort with this series, to bad you didn't get your own show, we could talk about your information...which is?

Mike DAntuono

12/12/2013 06:23:23 am

Lol.... He reported on Facebook... that is funny... lol.. wow 9th hand information... that's the standard theses days.. what happened to 1st 2nd and 3rd hand information

2/6/2014 04:31:35 pm

Mr. Wolter is a heck of a lot more educated than this comment and all it's spelling and grammar errors. Of course CC was not the very first to discover America...it's just common sense. Scott does not say categorically that everything he checks out has some hidden meaning. He is just trying to find proof of the many that came before. This is a fascinating show!!

mikcd89@gmail.com

2/6/2014 08:50:46 pm

Boy, easy to bash the guy that can't spell. Funny my Grammer is better then yours! I I like Scott . If you would have read other posts , you would have understood that. I guess your more interested in Un educated arguments .

Barry henson

2/22/2014 07:58:00 am

Scott's show is very damn interesting and I'm sure he'll be on several years from now.

Dennis

2/6/2016 12:34:45 am

JJ, I Agree 100%.

Dan D

4/17/2013 02:41:04 pm

"According to the History spokesperson, History and H2 programs are intended as entertainment only and are not meant to be considered factual."

Well, this is very telling. I don't remember seeing this disclaimer at the beginning or end of AA or AU.

Perhaps they should go a step further and just label them as fantasy.

Jon B

4/17/2013 04:15:35 pm

"According to the History spokesperson, History and H2 programs are intended as entertainment only and are not meant to be considered factual."

I keep reading that sentence over and over again. I know what all of those words mean, but I can't figure out what they mean in that order.

Let me try rephrasing it to see if it makes more sense this way:

"Food Network and Cooking Channel programs are intended as entertainment only and the recipes are not meant to be edible."

No... that didn't work either.

amandaM

4/18/2013 04:13:09 am

"According to the History spokesperson, History and H2 programs are intended as entertainment only and are not meant to be considered factual."

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/not-intended-to-be-a-factual-statement

Shawn Sinclair

5/20/2013 05:08:22 pm

Or dirty " D" they could give us the same 'ol shit, I think more shows should offer " questions like Scott's.

Christopher Randolph

4/17/2013 06:28:31 pm

It sounds like when the History Channel changed their name to History they picked the wrong word to drop.

This hilarious explanation of History's programming should be thrown in the faces of everyone at AA and AU and every person who supports their views - the network itself regards them to be inaccurate entertainment! Game, set, match to sane people.

Additionally I find it funny that History execs presumably tend to work days and go home nights. And what's the one thing - the only thing - we know from this statement they don't consider to be a decent use of one's free time? Watching History!

Kat

4/23/2013 12:37:22 pm

Oh, thank you for the giggle in your first line! Last year in the lead up to the end of the world, I'd taken to calling it the "Hysteria Channel," but your comment is so much more clever.

Shawn Sinclair

5/20/2013 05:12:59 pm

Chrissy,I guess thats why you don't have a show of your own funny guy. Shits and giggles, perhaps stop watching H2 is the next best thing for you since you don't agree with the programming, or better yet...just buy the station and create your own.... dick.

Mike DAntuono

12/12/2013 05:58:23 am

I can see that most of you writing these comments have no idea of facts and events through time. I have been looking at data about these things since I was a child. All these fact are through archeology, and messed with other historians and books available to everyone. If his findings have no facts then explain in your great wisdom why the white house is the almost exact replica of the temple of Jupiter in Baalbeck. .. and explain
The Mason connection to me to the Tutor family of England... which stands for new land in german... Or the all seeing eye found in the 38000 year old cave in France...OH I SEE.... you all still believe in the concept ,because it's not what you were taught ... well this is a sign of ignorance..... where your statements are bashing and trying to Vail the truth... Instead of being open to information that have factional findings in history. His views are a out side the box. So was Einstein. ..
He was considered a loon. People quit being a block in the road. It is ok to think and study, and put your information in front of the wise to understand. We are a separated people. To separate people is only to conquer them. Not always with violence, but with separating the way we feel about things, separate your views to mine and cause arguments to divert you from reality.... look around we our country looks like a Disney World concrete in the give of reality. Where the reality of of man is the fact that we have lost touch with nature in such a way that we depend on water companies to pump it and electric pumped to you and tv... may I ask? Which has of these things are yours. Your life and property roll back into society after you die to a child of the state ... Our economy is a on going machine that consumes your work , your money,and your time...to decide your ideas so we can not stand together on anything. You know strength in numbers. I say we give him the chance. No one else has the Alpha gear to go out and risk there life for the information like he is. He is doing the dirty work for us. But at the same time... has any one seen Ancient aliens.... wow now that's a story with information that is completely far fetched. Not that's life is far out there but this historical fact are distorted to make you believe in something that never happened. Now that show should be dropped.
Just a small thought.....

Raymond Howard link

12/12/2013 10:41:25 am

Mike,

Mike,

Your grammar in this response to the posts, is atrocious. However, I don't think the gist has been lost. In relationship to Scott Wolter being compared to Einstein... that is a stretch. Scott Wolter does do a very good job at Forensic History, but he's hardly the first to wonder and explore cryptic history. His fore' into delving into Free Masonry, and other secret societies, let alone any connections between the Vikings, and going back further to Egyptians let alone Phoenicians is just a matter of what connection allot of this has to do with the background of Christianity, and the actual relationship to Jesus the Man, (not the deity.) Others before Wolter... many scholars as well even before Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln, whom wrote, Holy Blood Holy Grail have dealt with these subjects, including although you don't like the Ancient Alien Theory round about with Graham Hancock, Orion Connection, deal with all this cryptic history. Hell, Heinrich Schliemann, reading the Iliad and the Odyssey led to his reckoning on the location of Troy... a place more of 'myth' at the time, until the unearthing. What is missed in Western understanding let alone of any Hieroglyphics or cuneiform, is that the Hebrew Bible alone, the Torah, is like all that before, in Middle Eastern script, mostly a set of writings that are allegorical with prose that are more metaphor than history or being literal for all content. That a set of three prime religions starting as cults came out of it that is a matter of history but not much else other than moral codes, and laws; not that they aren't substantially significant. But in saying all hat, like the Iliad and Odyssey, it does not mean many of the places and events based on other myths didn't happen in some other way than is traditionally accepted for around 2000 years in the conventional literality of the Western, or Christian oriented mind. It is from that paradigm of the late Christian oriented mind, that ironically much of modern science is predicated upon... leaving much prejudice and bias as to the origin of anything as you put it, "outside the box!" While I am all for the sciences in fact finding, it is the anomalous artifacts that excite me in archaeological discovery that need inspecting, and require conjecture and speculation to even begin to gain insight into the possible course of actual physical fact of findings, to be an 'exact' science... let alone 'real' history. So, such theorists, (really hypothesis) that argue Ancient Alien visitation, or even then in conjecture of an established esoteric technologically advanced society endemic to the planet in a parallel culture to our ancient ancestors, that is now lost, that too should be explored as well as any traditional digging of archaeology or paleontology. So, no, the subject will not be dropped, it's part and parcel of the discussion in the Origin of the Species,(Animals in general, us most specifically) not just secret societies.

Raymond Howard link

12/12/2013 10:41:37 am

Raymond Howard link

12/12/2013 10:42:29 am

Mike,

Your grammar in this response to the posts, is atrocious. However, I don't think the gist has been lost. In relationship to Scott Wolter being compared to Einstein... that is a stretch. Scott Wolter does do a very good job at Forensic History, but he's hardly the first to wonder and explore cryptic history. His fore' into delving into Free Masonry, and other secret societies, let alone any connections between the Vikings, and going back further to Egyptians let alone Phoenicians is just a matter of what connection allot of this has to do with the background of Christianity, and the actual relationship to Jesus the Man, (not the deity.) Others before Wolter... many scholars as well even before Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln, whom wrote, Holy Blood Holy Grail have dealt with these subjects, including although you don't like the Ancient Alien Theory round about with Graham Hancock, Orion Connection, deal with all this cryptic history. Hell, Heinrich Schliemann, reading the Iliad and the Odyssey led to his reckoning on the location of Troy... a place more of 'myth' at the time, until the unearthing. What is missed in Western understanding let alone of any Hieroglyphics or cuneiform, is that the Hebrew Bible alone, the Torah, is like all that before, in Middle Eastern script, mostly a set of writings that are allegorical with prose that are more metaphor than history or being literal for all content. That a set of three prime religions starting as cults came out of it that is a matter of history but not much else other than moral codes, and laws; not that they aren't substantially significant. But in saying all hat, like the Iliad and Odyssey, it does not mean many of the places and events based on other myths didn't happen in some other way than is traditionally accepted for around 2000 years in the conventional literality of the Western, or Christian oriented mind. It is from that paradigm of the late Christian oriented mind, that ironically much of modern science is predicated upon... leaving much prejudice and bias as to the origin of anything as you put it, "outside the box!" While I am all for the sciences in fact finding, it is the anomalous artifacts that excite me in archaeological discovery that need inspecting, and require conjecture and speculation to even begin to gain insight into the possible course of actual physical fact of findings, to be an 'exact' science... let alone 'real' history. So, such theorists, (really hypothesis) that argue Ancient Alien visitation, or even then in conjecture of an established esoteric technologically advanced society endemic to the planet in a parallel culture to our ancient ancestors, that is now lost, that too should be explored as well as any traditional digging of archaeology or paleontology. So, no, the subject will not be dropped, it's part and parcel of the discussion in the Origin of the Species,(Animals in general, us most specifically) not just secret societies.

Raymond Howard

12/12/2013 10:43:01 am

Michael DAntuono

12/12/2013 05:19:15 pm

Mr. Howard. Your right my Grammer is terrible. Not only that so is my spelling. But, with that said my historical facts are strong. As well as my ability to connect with the data presented to me bvarious media . As well as being able to use the tools given to me to understand how to see through the gize of smoke and lights history. I don't blog often . I don't find much gain in it , but as we advance in technology, I must.
Please forgive my grammer.
Fist I did not compare him to Einstein. I said he is using a out side the box of what is taught conventional. I wrote as plainly as I could.
I'm still confused a bit by your response to my blog. I wrote it to defend him . Why? Because we all can see these groups all throughout time at least the people who studied history. There seems to be a familiar face in each and every one of these empires that surface . Weather it was a religon , a technology ect. It is a obvious connection . Like Roman gods taking over Greek gods. Where they got them, from older cultures .
But we didn't become the type of people we are now until 10000 bc. It is suspected that man did not come from neanderthal men but lived along men like us. So, history is not a lie but a book to discover together as men .
However I would like to talk about a few topics
Speaking on the holy blood holy grail. It is not a blood line they hid. But, through some studies of the name of jesus. I have found that it was a name hidden , not a family. The temple blood was to guard the age . They we not the blood of jesus but the protectors the name. One part of information I have understood is Romans were rough . They're laws were Un human . Humanity was at its worst in history. When they captured and beat him they mocked him and spat on him . They also called him , jesus king of the jews.. funny jesus means the salvation of Zeus. They savior of Zeus king of the jews. I can see where this would be funny to them in their world of killing. The name is kept so we can not see who they are waiting for . They .... now that's the funny part . For that I ask you to read the Book of the Giants. Look at the cave in France. Look at the symbology in that cave.
Look at how smart these people were .
Look at the oldest direction of man's god and see

Mike DAntuono

12/12/2013 07:15:15 pm

Mr. Howard This Part of my last text message was hard to type or read. I would like to re cap that thought so we can finish this discussion. I quoted ..The temple blood was to guard the age . They we not the blood of jesus but the protectors the name. . What I was typing The Knight's Templars did not guard a blood line,but a name.
The real name of jesus. I don't mean guard it in a good way!
Your comments to my blog and the extensive books you have mentioned ... Funny Like I said there are plenty of books avaible to people who can understand wisdom.
Now lets get back into the conversation unless you are still trying to get your brilliant smart dick on. Which only leads to your brilliance wasted on bashing . Where I have read you posts and see this is right up your ally. You were right about entertainment. How aliens and jesus were laughable. The funny thing you don't have enough information on these facts to speak so bold.The fact is this man did live. The fact is the Romans did everything they could in the back bone of they're trade industries in Israel ,which was a gold mine for them and still is a central trade area to the day ,to stop this up rise that was effecting trade . The workers were not working they were listening to jesus . There were people who plotted to kill him , as others plotted to protect him. This is true due to findings that Paul was a roman spy sent to learn everything about jesus and other historical events. Paul even had jesus brother killed. I believe that he was reporting to Rome and was responsible for giving this name jesus to the greeks.The roman leaders would have talks about this and came to a brilliant way to control the masses as they have always been able to do for thousands of years. Assume their god! Assume his identity. Assimulate into Roman culture . It was spreading like wild fire and they were desperate . The empires economy was in desperate times. They placed him over Mithras holidays. Gave him like all the ancient gods before him the same holiday December 25.everything that would attract romans to this deity. Even ordained books that would be known until today by Constantine. Matt mark luke and john..These books were not taught during the time period . in fact most couldn't read and taught with their deeds. Except one thing the star that lead the wise men. It would never appeared in any other time in history like has been mentioned by Zeitgeist movie. Where others like him born same day died the same way and came back to life the same way. The equinox for that time period had not yet happened , so the star could never have led these men to past false sons of god or the worship of the sun. Infact this happened around the same time as jesus birth.The man was real .
This is happing now with the ancient alien idea trying to assumen the idenity... Laughable . Yes the show should be shut down. At least Scott is showing facts with out distorted ideas. For one , how would the physics in another dimention be the same as ours . Impossible! So there goes travel... How would they get to us ... A ship ... Now they cant carry the fuel . Let alone gravity of larger stars, and plotting routes would be impossible at speeds of light . Which light becomes very hot when traveling at high speeds.. But , you knew that...As far as ancient alien ... Ancient Mesopotamia is littered with relics of fertility gods. Stories of the sons of god coming down and teaching us as depicted in the first book of the bible where God clothed Adam and Eve.The fish god who came out of the water who thought us math and how to write cuneiform.. This is like the back bone of their story this group. That's where the star maps comes from. I don't care how educated a man is, this concept was blown out of the water by older cultures, like in Frances' 38,000 yr old cave . That depicts two groups of animal around a bull having sex with a women. Lilith and Baal . The first god's now are satan and Lilith. Baal is the in direct equal in history to satan. The cave shows man was organized. Religion was already established . Sacrifice was the method of worship . So , a social ladder was intact. Chemistry was being practiced , how ... they made paint. So mixing was a practiced, evident due to the strength of the paint its self. They used the shape of the wall to dictate to them which animals to place where. In other words they traced it by the outline of the rock .The inside was a depiction of the landscape out side which I find remarkable ,a map if you will. But, to see the all seeing eye on the wall in that cave , a 38,000 year old cave. How old are the Egyptians. How old is the oldest tale on ancient alien's .
What's on your dollar? The historians don't want to discus
this . The findings of giants and other tales to the Annunaki,
are the truth but the truth is God cast them here to stay. How.. I have no idea I was not here . But, the cave again is thousands of years older then this tale. Where one bull was drawn a

Raymond Howard

12/12/2013 11:26:02 pm

Mike,

You know you might have had an argument, as a Christian, but you failed terribly with your wry comment of, “Now lets get back into the conversation unless you are still trying to get your brilliant smart dick on. “ Fool, I know how a Christian should talk,(write) and project a Christ like image with proper diction, and phraseology. I've been immersed in that 'proper' diction for years to present thoughts saliently enough, and in the process provide a thesis worth mentioning. You, “judgmentally” failed to read properly to disqualify it, that yes, I acknowledge Jesus' manhood, I simply reject as any Jew would, or otherwise any sane man or woman as gentile the premise that he was a Man-god. And yes, I follow a number of books, amongst others for good measure, Barbara Thiering's, and Peter Cresswell. Never mind that Peter Cresswell isn't a so called “Christian Scholar”, like that of Barbara Thiering, his forensics, like Scott Wolter are proper and correct, and even to end up sounding like conclusion, are otherwise quite worthy of speculation.

You on the other hand for your own rambling, even in mentioning for reference the Nicaea Conference in 325 AD talk how the Romans essentially grafted Christianity into the framework of their society by virtue of Constantine, but fail to fathom the reality that 300 Bishops of the otherwise Jewish sect known as Christianity, qualified what books pro or con to include and exclude for the sake of the inspiration of politics that it would fit into Roman culture, and not as the inspired word of God, as pretense. Not the other way around that Romans bent it to their own device; albeit it was Constantine's mother, Helena, a converted Pagan, that went to Palestine and made the rounds by intuition, not archeology and decided where Jesus was hung on the cross. What nails pierced him, and located remnants of the cross despite 300+ years that would have passed for oxidation and decay upon exposure laying above ground, not buried, and where she in her Hellenistic wisdom and clairvoyance found the site of the tomb. These motions, of gathering relics and requiring Holy sites are a pagan pastime, necessitated by the power imbued by objects, and the mysticism of sites.... hardly “Christian” anymore than your choice and turn of phrase, “Now lets get back into the conversation unless you are still trying to get your brilliant smart dick on. “

Now, far as the Paleolithic caves of Lascaux in the Dordogne region that you refer to, they are indeed fascinating, but as well, up for anyone's hypothesis or theory, outside paleontology as like you, no one in this present life time was there, anymore than their witnessing the crucifixion or the resurrection. You needn't qualify an argument, of James the brother of Jesus was there, Matthew, Luke and John and we have their testimony... if you hadn't noticed, the Book, the Bible has been transmitted with passages that didn't even exist in Jesus' time since William Tindale's Bible, being in the King James. e.g., The woman whom Jesus exonerates from being stoned by her accusers. That, didn't happen, it was a myth that was prevalent in the Middle Ages, and set nicely amongst the parishes for the story telling, to end up being eventually printed. To squabble about my suggestion that one in essence simply listen, or read, and learn, and thereby file away 'all' kinds of information in one's brain for reference, whether you agree with it or not, leaving one 'educated', and able to by discretion decide on their own what 'reality' is. You, sir, are not qualified to tell me or anyone else what to think, or what subjects to accept or reject on our own!

Your comments about extraterrestrial aliens and space flight, either in this dimension or any other are laughable. It is so backward in thinking it defies my own ability at description. Just because linearly in this time frame we do not have in our 'modern' development 'conventionally' the craft to make such maneuvers, doesn't mean it isn't 'out there.' What you wrote, had aliens using either solid or liquid propellent rocketry, not anti-gravity, or any other type of technology that is only hypothetical or theoretical to us at the moment, amongst our civilian intelligentsia of scientists. Granted if that's all they had to get here, then they'd never get here, anymore than if we use that technology even with plasma rocketry, we'd never get there, and yes, either way for them or us, they or us would burn up before either of us got to the speed of light. But Quantum mechanics isn't limited to either Einstein's Relativity theory, let alone Newtonian mechanics and it's three laws. You don't have to be either a mathematician or a rocket scientist, to imagine the idea of point A and B coming together from trillions of miles away in sub particle nano-seconds, (Cerne Hadron Collider Experiments with Higgs Boson particle) although I agree it

Raymond Howard

12/12/2013 11:38:43 pm

continued:

easier in many ways to comprehend the time space interval from now back to 38-45,000 years ago to the Dordogne Region of France at Lascaux.

Now, far as the Templar's are concerned, prior to them and like them, the Cathars revered the cousin of Jesus, John the Baptist more than Jesus himself, believed in the duality of God as both good and evil, as well as being man and woman, and excuse the pun, that's the crux of their problem with the Roman Catholic Church that led to their persecutions and eliminations, let alone anything you want to postulate about them being the protectors of Jesus' name,(not in a good way) in word or being the vessel of God for the Gral or as some others falsely speculate, the cup at the Last Supper. Again, it is not your place to tell me how to think, what paradigm to use, by way of “logic.” All you and I, or anyone else is allowed to do, is offer opinion, and otherwise accept or reject that opinion. You reject my opinion, I reserve the same respect for yours, and that is why I assert the emphasis I do, on the mind set of the movement born here in America from the Great Awakening, that led to the Great Disappointment in 1844, during the American Religious Reformation, because it was simply nuts, and has left us presently with a paradigm that the average person here functions with a belief system that has nothing to do with reality. Certainly not with the study of faith, let alone the study of science or otherwise, deemed pseudo-science, like Ancient Astronaut Theory. You Sir, are a perfect example of this fallout!

The whole idea that you trash, (bash) of the Gilgamesh Bible, that led to the stories of Genesis, Noah, and Moses, by the misconceptions you hold between Freemasonry or Ancient Astronaut Theory, are simply a reflection of your conviction in established Christianity, whether in fact for deed in either addressing me from the start with, “Now lets get back into the conversation unless you are still trying to get your brilliant smart dick on.” , or arguing with me in not at all an intelligent manner or means any farther beyond this phrase to try and persuade me otherwise to anything but what reinforces my opinions for the experiences of yours and others like you to attempt to quash such thought to the ancients I and others like me hold for 'speculation', or toward what Christianity is otherwise by the best it has ever-wise to offer in fact in the representation and same mind set paradigm, religiosity ilks of you! Too wordy on my part for you? Verbose? That's not important, its what you comprehend that matters, and if I have any real message to forward to you, it is for the methods you just employed with vulgarity, to re-think, and consider two things, “Practice what you preach, and take not the splinter from your brother's eye, lest you take out the plank from your own!” How you read what I wrote previously, your blind as a bat! But then, that is the nature of the Christian faith, to accept its precepts hook, line and sinker, blindly! That isn't bashing Christianity, its demanding and commanding you to be one, in spite of yourself for revealing to you your own failing by false judgment. That's right, you've just been judged for judging... and by an agnostic no less.

Mike Dantuono

12/13/2013 07:36:03 am

You really have no idea do you? You sound like the high priest who questioned Christ, " What good could come from Nazareth". As far as how a Christian talks. You again are off on your history. Peter was a very vulgar man. As a matter of fact he cut off the ear of a man, as well as yell at them for their trespasses against Christ.So the stories go.He also could not read or write. So, I guess you would tell him the same thing you have told me. I'm a man. Sinful in the eye's of God as you Sir are also! To call a brother a fool is one of the worst things to say to another brother in Christ. The difference is your ability to fail safe your inferences with references trying to drag a point at which your probably not even sure of making at this time. Attempting to strip down one's physiology by using an escalated level of intelligence in English, or any other degree you may have, to me Is an abused good. Your very knowledge you have obtained is collaborated ideology and law accumulated from all of us, by all of us, for all of us who seek it in christ's name . In my opinion, the only thoughts you have are the generic form of what seems to be an aggravated bibliography paparazzi. Your new name shall be google. . As far as my diction grammar and spelling. A waste of my time . Why? Most people are common men. Not MIT grads. So, my language , simply put, is humble and simple so all can understand. If that is not true then how did you understand my ill references to, The caves I mentioned through out Europe, but left no comment to the 38000 year old cave that debunks the idea of the Ancient Alien concept. Why? Because it shows a older accepted religion connected to the religion that we are directly referring to . Where depictions of the Anunnaki, show them as giants standing on the necks of smaller men. From different cultures, how is this known? By how they were dressed. Which is accounted in the old testament referring to the stories of Angles fallen from heaven and taking wemon for their brides. As well as the Jewish history of the mountain of Pan, where Azzale and Uzzle fell . Let alone the Nicaea Conference in 325 AD. To that I would add ,The Emperor of Rome of the time ordained the first 4 books not the Conference! So your again correct in your study ,but wrong of the impression that it left. Yes they add and dissolved books. They decided who and what this new God would be. Again these first Christians of Israel These men of the first four books did not carry any books! They carried the gospel of the Son of God . The professed word given to them by the Holy spirit. How ? Christ had to send his spirit after returning to his Abba to them. He was in the likeness of his Abba , he looked like him he was his son . His Abba was in him ,it was the same blood. How could he give himself to him while standing in front of him? But, your title list of books do not include these issues. These are worked out by Our mind.
Also , I never stated that I was the Person who dictates what any one would think or feel . To go over every point I spoke about to you and pitch the same ball back at me with pretty colors( your words references and book list ) Was to the tee of what I was talking with you about , then mask my information with dates and proper grammar and boost of your extensive wisdom is cute grasshopper.

Your a very astute an . I think you are intelligent in a lot of aspects.
Except how to talk plain , and to common people. Why is that important? You have spun a web around your mind which dose not allow you to speak to people of a less or more common intelligence then you Sir. To my language , Yes I said a bad word. I'm sorry . I've kicked at you . I apologize . But , at the same time do not try to dictate to me the understanding of God, good or evil .You are confused on this matter and have lashed out at me for speaking my mind how I saw fit. Then defend theories of the Ancient Alien theory which are not even respected in modern history. Then tell me I have no right to speak the truth to people . lol. Sir sorry I offended you . If you must, Smite me then you may. I do not wish to proceed with talk, so I will not answer again. Thank you for all your time Sir.

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Raymond Howard

12/13/2013 05:17:42 pm

Dear Mr. Dantuono,

Thank you for the choice of not arguing with me further. Thank you as well, for your half hearted apology using the excuse of your prior response in vain of Peter. Here is the problem with that, while I am not Christian, and never will be despite my father having been Seventh Day Adventist, and my mother Roman Catholic, otherwise a crypto Jew, I vowed at the age of seven not to ever belong to any religion, except to study faith, per the instance of how it effects and affects others. I do not break my vows! I haven't amongst my friends, and I didn't in my marriage. No, me saying this, the common response I've had from other born again Christians, prosylthizing at me, not to me, has been, “Oh, I see now why you are so confused, your parents were unequally yoked.” Stupidity for that shameful 'superficial' judgement! There are more than 5000 'different' denominations in Christianity, and that being the case, the confusion is amongst all of them, not my parents, wherin they married in good faith, not for the sake of 'religion.' In course of a response that you will not and should heretofore not react to, most Christians I know, don't go by Peter, for any excuse of an example like you, they go by WWJD. In that, the only vulgarity for my study of Jesus, was the response as posed to him effectively on the subject of masturbation, wherein he responded, “It is better to plant one's seed in the belly of a whore than to spill it on the ground.”

So, that is as much as I'd like to talk about penises. As is, my deference to Christiandom, is that the way its gone about in prosylthizing, is that to get to heaven, Jesus is the only way. Sure, that is written, but it just isn't so, and I can't help but 'think' that was inserted to inculcate numbers for the church, if not for souls, then for 10% tithe and upond death, estate donation! Granted that will be seen as cynical, otherwise jaded, but it more than likely is the case considering the poverty of converts in many nations and the opulence of Vatican City, let alone of any Catholic church throughout the world. In Protestantistism it's not any different, from Prarie Ministers, to tent preachers of the 20s and 30s to televangelists in the 60s to now with ther song and dance of show men with correspondence certificates of mail order ordination who garner old folks bank accounts. As is, the Lord's Prayer is borrowed in fact, (essentially plagerized from a Kaddish prayer), and so far as the King's English, “So on earth as it is in heaven”, is dealing in the here and now, not life after death. Jews, while amongst the Gnostics believed in an after life, even a nether world akin to the Christian concept of Hell, taken from the Egyptians and Greeks, Jews, proper, then and now, do not believe in heaven or hell. Yet, people of the Christian persuasion, either listening to their ministers, or reading the Book of Revelation, are moved to near hysteria every millenium for the advent of Christ by way of the Battle of Armeggedon. Then, with some acceptance that hethens might know something about their calendar, and it relating to that, end up in anticaption of a transition to get around to making another calendar before or by our Gregorian calendar of December 21, 2012 think it is a sign that the end of the world is nigh, and maybe the Universe, with God at the helm.

With that, you get those all but preparing the way in self fulfilling prophecy by facilitating the Jews in Israel, to go beyond placing the corner stone of the New Temple, and building it on the Dome of the Rock with every intent upon it's completion to set off the destruction of the Jews, by killing 3/4s of them to save the other ¼ in conversion of Christ's return. A preacher, not holden enough to keep in his pulpit, runs for election to Presidential office in 1988 lying about his military service, not having served a day in his life in combat but serving alcohol to officers, and in the meantime since then per his 700 Club, preaches how funny it is that Moslems die, and as little otherwise known he 'privately' finances wars against fundamental Islamists. Then you have the Prepers. All these people that don't even regard the most important passage for the Advent, if it ever happens at all, is, “Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house.” While this passage is an ageasis of escape, it means as well to be ready to be taken up at the time of advent, not dwell in a hole in the ground, to only come out and shoot people as if they were Zombies that are in wont of brains for food, that you otherwise have for natural or man made disaster as in the later instance of nuclear war. But this unfortunately for common sense amongst many Christian sects or their offshoots, let alone any individuals don't obviously understand very well despite every year there being Revelation Seminars, ad infinitum.

These o

Raymond Howard

12/13/2013 05:22:25 pm

Continued:

These obviously are not 'true' Christians. But as you, Mr. Dantuono should know by now, neither are you. I am hardly a Jewish priest as you infer that I am sanctimonius, unlike you and others like you, to think I know God's mind, much less Jesus' as you so readily jump to assume so. But you say, “It is written!” Sure, and you went to the trouble in your own diatribe of mentioning Lilith, Adams first wife, and Baal in relationsip to the cave paintings that are in fact for source with the petroglyphs you cited at Lasceux, not all over the place throughout Europe, with the exception of the Pyrennes that you made a stink about. You don't want to change one titl of the King James Bible you know, “it is written” in Revelation not to do so. As is, while the Lasceux paintings that you associated Lilith and Baal with, are 32000 years of difference to James Ussher's account of the nightfall of the preceding Sunday, October 23, 4004 B.C., in the poloptic Julian calendar. In his epistle to the reader, Ussher also says, “I deduce that the time from creation until midnight, January 1, 1 AD was 4003 years, seventy days and six hours. “Six hours before midnight would be 6 pm.”

While I would actually commend you Mr. Dantourono for pushing back the assinity of James Ussher to accept man as having been around 38,000 years ago, it is your inclusion to the petroglyphs at Lasceux to your account of Lilith and Baal, that take precedence to anyone espousing Ancient Astronaut Theory, that discounts any and all of your arguments. First off, any references to Lilith and Baal are purely Jewish for source, being in reference from the Babylonian Talmud, not that of Torah, and certainly not in account of the compilation known as the Christian Bible, of the Old Testament and account of Genesis. All references to gods, are of Akkadian and Babylonian account, that you discount in regard to the Annunaki, making your reference to Lilith for it's actual source disingenous for your species use of it, and going back 38000 years ago, there wasn't an Akkadian language, let alone Babylon. We don't have a clue what Cro Magnon called their fertility goddess carved to figure in stone, much less any gods, whereas they didn't have a written language, and if they did, there is no comparison for a Roseta Stone to derive any sense of it, if there were to any more recent languages that exist on the Roseta Stone. To be more antiseptic about it, your mixing apples and oranges far worse than any Ancient Astronaut Theorist could do, being you for the want of my facts, allegedly by you in what I had to offer not being straight, yours go all over the place. The first location presently known for deity worship at a temple of more common understanding outside the primitive associations you speculate about in the chemistry of cave man paint, and the rituals thereof Cro Magnon using the contours of cave walls for their aritstry, is assumed constructed by a Neolithic nomadic people in Southern Turkey, at Goebekli Tepe from around 12000 years ago. There too, we have no language resource written in any language to be cross referenced, not until 6000 years ago of the cunieform you deride for it's content.

So, Mr. Dantourono, I forgive you for your misuse of the English language where you came across so vulgar with me, and your disregard that would have been in your favor for using MS word to check either your grammar or spelling in helping you write your arguments. I forgive you for your attempts to admonish me, being actually all wrong for the reasons I cite here, of the eroneous Christian ethos adopted long ago and practiced, of, “Do as I say, not as I do”, and otherwise of the fallacy in reasoning, wherein you essentially come off as , “How dare you cite gospel, your not a Christian, thus your an imposter for otherwise being righteous.”, as well as all the other hypocricies practiced by you and those that take the claim of being Christian, among which is your self righteousness, wherin you smear the name of your saviour all the same in how it is assumed by you and those like you for the many misinterpretations that are done that you are on the right side of God. I accept your plaintiff argument at commoness, with all likelihood that you actually mean to be humble, but on the other hand, I do not forgive you in that commoness where otherwise you have the intelligence, but not the heart to lay claim to it, of being for your own damning choice a common idiot! As is, while you judge so redily, you were in that judgement well beyond any discernment to even guess, that how I answered you was in manner of courtesy citing for each entry you made, a thoughtful reason in response. This is something you can't appreciate, so, I realize, that's my mistake and actual sin for not heeding good advice offered from your deity by not casting pearls before swine. In that, I can hardly ask you

Raymond Howard

12/13/2013 05:25:14 pm

Continued: Final

In that, I can hardly ask you, Mr. Dantouro for any forgiveness. In that, I can only ask directly, “G_d forgive me!

Mike DAntuono link

12/14/2013 01:18:10 am

First , I was humble in asking you to forgive me . Yes I t is God who forgives men . How then can God forgive me if you have not. I also do not follow the King James Bible. I read from the Zondervan Collection. The first writings in the ancient and transposed with no one's in put in ancient Greek as well as Hebrew. Yes I smear the name of Jesus. This name Christ would have never recognized before the Romans gave it to him. Why? The J was not used until the 1600's. So the name is a lie! But, the bigger question is why did Rome lie. In Germany I think to the day his name is Ivous which is a precursor to the name Jesus.

I don't care who in the counsel decided which books were to be ordained. The first four were determained by a Roman Emperor, the committee was chosen by him. Who would listen to the god kings views or of what he accepted and that was the standard. Most of the books that were placed no one ever heard of. Not only that no one out side of the high archy of Roman Citizens would have read them anyway. THEY COULD NOT READ!
.They took Peters body knowing that Christ said he would build his Church apon him. Placed him in Rome and stole the truth about Christ , the real message, and the gospel. The Roman Church dose not feel all aspects of the gospel should be taught. So they suppress the knowledge. They gave him a new name Ivious. God and His son have no connection to Zeus. Unlike Zeus having a direct connection to Satan.So no I lend no reason to call my self a Christian the "Son of Satan" As far as my references to Lilith , the stories told in cuinform and the Kabulla as well as all oral cultures of that time period. This religion pre dates The Jewish peoples oral culture by thousands of years as well as others.
I do not follow any Christian bible. I try to find the facts in history and see if they hold water to what has been written in the past, and try to piece our broken history so it makes sense.. I can understand why most people are not Christians as you your self , the word Christian is a word the roots form Rome that describes a follower of Christ. The term is like the same ignorant term used whites in our near past referring blacks as... I will not use the word. So , modern Christians the wwjd movement, allow them selves to be mocked by being called that and worship a name that was not given to Christ by God. You think something is wrong here? Along with a tampered book. It dose not take a book to tell a human that to kill another is wrong. You already know this as a child . The ones who do not are not the children of God or a Brother of Christ. They are the sons and daughters of evil, and should be prayed for for they're salivation.. Leave no one behind and no rock unturned.

As far as my family. My Dad , he is a Purple Hearted Vietnam Vet. Who was a expert in code. He was Millitary Intel . As a Sargent he had the power to tell Generals to shut their mouth. He also Guarded Nuclear sites as well as being a Key Turner for the site.
He was a PHI major in college. He was talented in music art and the historical background of all cultures. He could almost translate any ancient language and taught me since I was a little guy until he died of Angio Sarcoma of the liver and Spleen . Concidering he was alot like you in his reference and his understanding of etymology. By use of the Porconies Dictionary Collection , to the Iliad and most of the books you mentioned as well as his extensive understanding of astrology. My Dad was the 12th man to die from it in the history of Medicine. Which Im pretty sure he got it from the Army, while stationed in Vietnam under secret orders.
So, the comments you made and the profiling you said about my family , not cool!
I do not wish to bash you , I don't wish to argue with you . I would love to share with you . Like I said your Brilliant. I respect your views and I lend a ear to wisdom . Men never know each other until they are angry with each other. I do not reference the intelligent , only this miss informed. No, MS word search...... No! My level education is 9th grade. Followed by 3 yrs college. There you have it , I can't be herd he didn't make it through high school... LOL. I surpass most in Culture and Historical accounts. Only because I use a different approach to the data. I can for some reason relate to ancient man easy. I retain data as well as store the documentation. I have every ancient language as well as the understanding of how it was invented. I would add here the Science ,Langauge and Math , was a direct result of the use of Oracles. Not just through the stories of baal, but by older people who used the same form of religion. To burn the seeds of God , to defile the body to insite the demon to possess the woman , where the demon then would teach. So , even the very fabric you hold dear is tampered by the screams of the children they burned at the cremation of care durning the ancient times.. At least so history dictates.
I like how you re

Raymond Howard

12/16/2013 05:18:20 am

Dear Mr. Dantuaono,

You're last post was cut off from apparent copy and paste at the bottom of your blog post. To this extent, let's get back to Scott Wolter. True, to keep the topic germain, the discovery of the articles usually found on the program, America Unearthed, limit themelves generally between around 700 AD onward, to any crypto history of Europeans coming to America, regardless of artifacts, and their dates. If we keep only to that, then other topics, like Ancient Aliens, much less even reciting Bible sources, outside relics particularly, or necessarily associated with the Temple Mount in Jerusalem or of weaponry or utility of armor, or other acutriments associated with encampent. Either by way of very early expeditions, where the travellers are a mystery, or later where it is amongst others, as Celts, or then possibly Templers, or some contingency thereof.

Now, in regards to your father's passing, to that ends I offer you my condolensces. My brother and I lost our father to MRSA back a year ago in October. He died of toxic shock syndrome, sepsis during mismanaged anti-biotic treatment, at 83 years old. Your father, it sounds, must have been exposed like many to Agent Orange, or some chemical equivalent. Sad story for all those exposed to cancer agents in Vietnam, and Cambodia, where the government denies the liablity of those agents. That he was an educated man, and apparent scholar, able to impart his knowledge to you, wherend you manage your own method of study meantime, all the more luck in the future with it. 9th grade, and some college or equivalency, it's my suggested encouragement you go back and do more matriculating. Not just for knowledge... but for greater skill at any potential you have, and abilities otherwise.

Your not stupid Mr. Dantuano, no not at all, but I only offer my opinions for how I've studied too. The conclusions are quite different. As much as you cite in response the books I suggested, I don't know from our discussions, hereto for the verbage, otherwise that you've actually purused them that well to dismiss them otherwise and all together. Far as my views on religion, it's not pivoted on Christianity,alone except for the criticisms provided. Without belaguering the subject, the Alien Astronaut Theory is more to the point for effort, how ancient man may have misinterpreted signs in the sky, and hovering or landings on earth to be associated differently to be assigned the interpretations of ancient scripts like the Torah, and yes, the earlier works of the Babylonians and others to come to such legends as Zeuss, or Apollo, much less Baal, or Satan. The intent in religion, is to mystify these kind of things to either paranormal accounts, and otherwise visions, with some metaphysical aspirations.

To me, these things are fine, within reason. But reason, where does that begin and end? I tend to like to quantify and qualify what it is to be measured. Admittedly you can't contain God, so how can you measure, and qualify or quantify such dimension of an interdemensional being of sublime intelligence given of course that the intelligence actually exists? Practically you can't, but all the same, people identify with it, by either accepting the existence or negating it. I have a unique way of dealing with this problem. As is, there was a girl I knew in High School. She was unhappy in her marriage at 22 and left her husband for awhile. We met one day, when she was on a walk staying with another school mate girlfried at the time. Let me preface a difficulty she had, being OCD (Obssessive Compulsive Disordered) and at the same time, preoccupied since a child with her mother as a Baptist Bible thumper impressing her with the idea of Heaven's gate. The idea that the path is wide, the gate narrow to the salvation through God, and the way through Chist to get there. Being OCD, she tended to be quite literal about things, and although litmus wise for regurgitating information for tests, to obtain a 4.5 grade average all through school, in true reading comprehension the simplest story of fable perplexed her. Her mother told me she had such problems, that she couldn't even listen, let alone read Alice in Wonderland, with the Rabbit going down the rabit hole being a 5' tall rabbit, or 'imagine' Alice herself, growing smaller or bigger in the account, of articles labelled “eat me”, or “drink me.”
I tested her once myself, and asked, “Do you know the story of the Princess and the Pea?” She didn't strangely enough, so I told her. At the end of the story she shrugged her shoulders, and said I don't get it. Don't get what? “How the Princess felt the pea under all those mattresses.” I told her, well, as the story goes, only a Princess would know. She told me, well, it doesn't make any sense to me, unless you were to stack a pile of mattresses like your story and have me lay on the mattresses. I asked her, “Are

Raymond Howard

12/16/2013 05:27:43 am

you a princess? I think not!” She said, “No, but I can't understand it any other way.” I had to tell her, perplexed myself, “Then you'll never know.” Being the problem existed with the idea of getting from earth to heaven, how outside a hutch key her mother came up with, do you explain it otherwise?

Hutch key? Yes, she bought a hutch, that was a unique fashioned hutch key. The handle with a bevel around the outside of the handle, of the key had a cropping in it with what appered as three clovers. The bit, for the latch to the hutch, had a niche that also had a cut, that looked like three clover leaves. The head of the key, crown, or as her mother identified it as the “pate”, had a hexagonal opening, but that being it was the crowning apex as portal in imagery of the key to get to heaven, in a recitation, of all the parts as whole representing to the mother's effort of it, from earth to heaven. With a little imagination, one could think in terms of the clovers as the trinity, of father, son, holy ghost, and the apperture at the pate, as the actual heaven's gate for souls to pass through to get to the God's Head. Outside that, being keys are usually made on a sprue, or tree of metal from a foundery, another cited part of recitation, was, “From foundery of forge, the tree of staff, keys are made, if one is missing the others are saved. If all that are cast be used as such, it is the sprue that is true wherin Christ we trust.”

All fine and good, for the novelty of a relative of Peter Christen Asbjornsen, story compiler of such stories as Billy Goats Gruff coming up with a virtual witches incantation, with Christian dogma tied in. However, considering the relationship all around, ironic. You see, Asbjornsen, besides story teller compiler, was Norwegian, as was the great grand niece, or however it followed in descndence of ancestry that the key imagery was supposed to help. It only confused the girl all the more, as one day she in nervousness to inspec the key, when it was in the hutch key hole, she managed to break it. She took it to a smithy, and found out, the key was fitted together with hollow rods, bars, and silver solder. When she learned that, that for literalcy negated her mother's incntation all together, and she was confounded for the revelation of the key construction to try to come up with a more appropriate description of it, in a new incantation recitation. Nothing could work, with the foundery concept now altered... it near literally drove her mad. Between her Norwegian ancestry and interst in the Norse legends and Celts, she while going to Sunday School, and Bible classes on Wednesday, snuck around learning Wicca. She dabbled with Thelmic Magik, with Aleister Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis, and Gardnerian Wicca. As much as anyone might disuade her, being OCD, the rituals attracted her.

So, some years later after all this, she's on a walk, and she's holding an iris. A blue iris. I was driving and saw her, and in course of talking with her, she asked me about meaning of the flower. I found myself telling her, the meaning of the flower is all it's parts, and proceeded to identify those parts as.stamen, pistle, etc., along with petals and stalk, She herself, for being detailed oriented, actually knew them, and corrected me, that she knew all that, but what was the meaning of it? Realizing what it was like for her with that key, I tried this, “Have you ever taken a rose apart petal by petal? She said, yes. I asked her, when you've taken all the petals off, what do you have left of the flower? She said, rightly, nothing. I told her, that's right, so what is the meaning of the flower to you? She answered she still didn't know. I told her, aside from simply being a flower, to it's own purpose, it provided us the pleasure of it's beauty, and in that, there is the meaning thereof.

Confused still, I was a bit flustered, and said to her, “This for you, the meaning of the flower, is as tentamount to you, as the meaning of God.” She pensively and petulently said, “Yes!” I explained to her, try imagining an onion. She did. I asked her, “If I peel the onion, and get to the middle, then what have I got?” She responded, “Allot of onion peels.” “No, the very middle of the onion.” “Hmmm...” Still perplexed. So, I told her, “When you get to the middle of the onion there is nothing, and like God, if we go to the point of dissecting Him, as we did the flower, then he looses all meaning being there is nothing at the center of the onion except emptiness. The meaning is in the whole of the article in question.” She asked, “There are still the rinds.” So, back to the roses. I said, “If we have only the petals of the flower, it's no longer a flower, and the only measure of appreciation we'll have now of the flower is potpourrie,

Raymond Howard

12/16/2013 05:33:19 am

That at this point is the only meaning left to our senses.” Alas, at the time, she still didn't get it, and at 43 years of age, many years later and married to a non-denominational Protestant minister, upon an occasion, I asked her, “Did you ever find out how to get to heaven?” She sounded like she did when she was a little girl, perplexed and anguished quizzically, “NO!” She loves children, and her own are adored, and interestingly enough beyond Magik, she serves as a Children's Ministry Director. Her oldest daughter otherwise tells, and reads stories both to her own children, and to the children of their church... and in her heart, she knows despite all adversities that lie within the soul of her mother, like you, how to get to heaven.

I'll argue for arguments sake, but there is always a spark in any person. That spark, whatever it is, soul or simply a process of chemicals makes us all quite unique, and however perceived, right, wrong, indifferently, for lack of a better word, in spirit, I shall not quash!

Mr. Antuaono... Study well, and otherwise be at peace.

Mike DAntuono link

12/23/2013 07:27:05 am

Mr. Howard ,
Please forgive me for not writing in regards of your last comments. I have been very busy. Thank you for your kind words. I'm also sorry to hear about your father. I would like to write to you after Christmas . I needed some time to relate to your last post. There is a lot of information you brought forward. This time I will use some references to better explain directly which topic we talk on.

I would have to agree with you, I do need to
further my education .... until next time .
My your family have a wonderful Christmas and a happy New Year. From my family to yours My God bless you and my peace find you.

Raymond Dean Howard

12/23/2013 11:37:56 am

Mr. DAntuono,

Thank you for your holiday greetings, the same returned to you. I would like to retract one thing that I said, in regards to a misquote I made attributed to Jesus. I was made aware of an often times mistake that some people cite, of Jesus' making commentary to how one should handle themselves for sexual propriety. The source I was made aware of comes from Genesis 38:7-10, but it is a moot point, to what we were otherwise discussing far as decorum of either of us. At any rate, sure, we can continue to discuss, argue, but if you'd like to, you can reach me first on Facebook. I'll look in my other folder from day to day, unless it actually posts to my messages, and from there we can exchange e-mail accounts for more congenial conversations. I admit, you had a point, albeit I protested too much, but given source of one's profess of Christianity it was a temptation I couldn't resist of arguing better discretion of choice of words of telling me I was on something perhaps of a head trip with my verbosity. Anyway, Facebook, my access is simply writing in, Raymond Dean Howard. To my knowledge to date, no one of similar name, has the same middle name as me on Facebook. These sites while they stimulate conversation, in what you cited for ego, its just too easy to get carried away and end up making ad hominem comments that end up getting way off the subject for the best debater. Just a thought, otherwise, look forward to your points, and will next time take a bit longer to consider them, then just come off the cuff... I hope.

Again, Happy Holidays, and more specific per your taste, or get this, mine as well, "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!"

Raymond Dean Howard

Ms. JJ

2/6/2014 04:41:19 pm

Thank you, Mike. Finally some words of wisdom regarding Scott and his quests. It's a lot better than folks who just go with the status quo because that is what they were taught. We are here to learn lesson our entire lives. I love his insights and I'm glad to see you agree. I don't appreciate people with closed minds. For some reason (probably something to do with their religions) some people seem to be scared stiff of having a truth put right in front of them and they still won't believe anything other than what they have been taught. It's sad, really. Humans are here to discover and learn, not blindly follow.

Tara Jordan

4/17/2013 11:47:38 pm

Jason.At least Scott Wolter acted like an adult & kept is classy.He never made any threats,or requested his fans to launch vicious attacks against you.

Jason Colavito link

4/17/2013 11:51:14 pm

I have never had any personal problem with Scott Wolter, who has criticized ideas rather than individual people. My only difference with Wolter is over ideas. The ancient astronaut believers, though, have repeatedly and viciously accused me of all manner of nefarious intentions for ten years now.

Tara Jordan

4/18/2013 01:10:42 am

I agree.These Ancient Aliens professional bottom feeders have no class,not an ounce of dignity. Their reactions range from quasi hysterical to excessive sniveling.They all crave for attention, yet incapable of being subjects to criticism.What a bunch of post pubescent bed-wetters

J. Keller

9/15/2013 03:20:56 am

Well you &countless others have voiced your opinions however you & the other closed minded idiots need to pull your heads out of your asses & realize that Columbus wasn't the first Europeans to come to the new world in fact skeletal remains of Caucasians were found in the mid west that predate colubus' arrival. Secondly you call ancient astronaut theorists bottom feeders, then what do you consider yourself? you have attacked other people's views & ideas furthermore if you're foolish enough to believe that humankind is the only sentient life in existence aside from theological beings then you sir are far beyond stupid

Mike DAntuono

12/12/2013 06:44:09 am

Jason... that sucks. But America Unearthed and Aliens are way too different to compare. Rellica to little grays and green people. I'll stick with relics and the far fetched questions then green people. Look men thought flight was crazy. We go to space now. My great grand pa said when we landed on the ... that's ah bulla shit! This show the power of thought, taught by people who oppress reality to control and hold people down. It's like that Yale project with crabs. 1 crab tries to escape from the box, and the others pull him back down to die with the rest of them. This is the same concept. I think you get the understanding.

Mike dantuono

2/15/2014 01:39:59 pm

Please pull my email off as my name. On a older post. Thanks

shawn sinclair

5/20/2013 05:40:56 pm

I respect Scott.. Tartie, but an assault on Sinclair is an assault on me, and thats why I'm here. Scott has a good understanding of the Sinclairs, but this is where I draw the line, and anyone who deliver's the kind of attack on them that this group has, should know I'm not going away. Trash talk all you like, I'm NOT going anywhere. If Jason wishes to use women to defend him, thats his choice but I don't agree with Tartie in the least, and no... I'm not a " fan" whatever that means. Vive la famille de St.clair!

Mike Dantuono

12/12/2013 06:19:42 am

Awe ... I love people who defend a family name that don't belong to them. If you are family to the Scott kings then where is your Sir name?
Show us your famili3s passed down coat of arms ... I have my families . We are black forest goths from a kingly blood line in germany. The name Spasic .What was your families name before sir names existed to show family's with certain skills of the town or area they were from.
Look the templer line is a very dark tale. Which hooks up with
Stories of satanic worship. Not only that they starting some of the world's most notorious wars... why else would a french king want them dead. French Kings were believed to be the blood line of christ. Of course he wanted them dead . They were controlling all of Europe by lending money to waring king to fight wars they would start to destroy their enemys'
Without raising a hand. Pretty darn smart if you ask me.
Please reply I love a good educated fight . But, I must warn you I'm backed by over 5000 pages of documents and translations of almost every ancient language, as well of maps ancient maps and studies of American president who are related to the Tutors and Sin Chair families... So, your data better be stronger than mine. As well as it has been my passion for my whole life and I have studied ancient cultures since I was 5 . I don't buy everything written. I read the data and decide if there is any truth to it .

Mike Dantuono

12/12/2013 06:20:14 am

Mike DAntuono

12/12/2013 06:20:43 am

12/27/2014 05:45:47 pm

I don't remember seeing any current posts of yours? I thought you weren't leaving?

Matt Mc

4/18/2013 01:21:56 am

I am glad to hear this. After all Scott's stern worded comments about how people are trying to suppress him it is nice to know that he did not change his approach with the History Channel execs.

Paul Cargile

4/18/2013 03:10:11 am

Regarding factuality: when I first saw Ancient Aliens, I was thinking the program would show both sides of the claims, or set out to prove or disprove, much like what Mythbusters did. Needless to say, I was dissappointed at what I saw, and only looked at a few more episodes just to see what crazy stuff they were doing. It's a shame that a channel known for its past accuracies in historical documentaries has decided not to educate its viewers.

amandaM

4/18/2013 04:16:46 am

I guess it's because a show called "Ancient Aliens: Debunked. Nothing to see here, folks" wouldn't sell as much advertising. Although I'd watch it. I'd even not fast-forward through the commercials.

Actually, wasn't there actually a show on Discovery or TLC called Debunked, or something of that sort? Unfortunately it probably had fewer viewers than HoneyBooBoo.

CFC

4/18/2013 05:41:00 am

http://onlinedigeditions.com/publication/?i=151306

I've been referring people to this article by Ken Feder and others about "Speaking Up and Speaking Out ....." pp 24-28. It was posted a week or so ago on the Ohio State Archaeologist's website (Brad Lepper). It provides some great ideas on how to counter this nonsense on H2 and elsewhere.

The Other J.

4/18/2013 03:11:06 pm

Kenny Feder, Boy Archaeologist!

Thanks for the link, I dig that guy.

CFC

4/18/2013 03:39:39 pm

I admire Ken Feder too.
I wasn't aware that a symposium was held just last year on the topic of "how archaeologists should respond to pseudoarchaeology" sponsored by the Society for American Archaeologists. Good for them.
Note that Jason is referenced in the article!!!

B L

4/18/2013 06:35:53 am

I always kind of thought that America Unearthed and Scott Wolter would part ways after a season or two.

My rationale? Wolter obviously used the show to build up to and present his own hypothesis of the Jesus bloodline and the Templar discovery of America. These are ideas he has been refining for years. He was able to present his idea in its entirety over the course of one season. He has nothing left.

Eventually, he's going to get bored with the production company forcing him to "investigate" things that don't tie directly into the ideas he's pushing, and he will leave.

Unless....the money is too good to pass up.

4/18/2013 07:13:58 am

I used to be amused by these clowns, but recently I remembered that clowns are not funny, just creepy. It was all good for a larf until I realized there are dopes who believe this stuff. And why are certain people out there pushing this sort of programming? Quick--somebody call Coast to Coast AM, I feel a conspiracy coming on--for realz.

And, finally, "...History and H2 programs are intended as entertainment only and are not meant to be considered factual." Really, History Channel? Really?

charlie

4/18/2013 02:29:57 pm

OK, so these programs on the "History Channel" are just entertainment now? Well, that sort of almost explains some of the crap they push.
I have a huge problem with a Brad Meltzer that even tops the AAT clowns. Watching one of the "decoded" programs makes me feel after the entire episode that I have lost part of my brain. I actually feel like I know less after sitting through and entire "decoded" than I knew before the thing started. Mr. Meltzer and his gang of "researchers" explain nothing. Amazing that there is an actual audience for his stuff. Oh well, the wife seems to enjoy this and the AAT garbage. To each his own, but damn, your site is great, need more to stand up with you and expose the garbage as garbage.
Thanks for all you do sir.

Jason Colavito link

4/18/2013 02:36:25 pm

You're welcome! Decoded was a terrible series, but at least it seemed like Meltzer was aware that the conspiracy theories his minions came up with were full of hot air. They did not one but two episodes claiming that the world would end in 2012. The only thing that actually ended was Meltzer's show, which aired its last episode in January 2012.

Matthew Dentith link

4/19/2013 04:41:12 pm

Ahem. "Decoded" had a 2012 episode in December of last year.

I've always had a soft spot in my heart for "Decoded" since I'm fairly sure Meltzer was taking the piss and his researchers were convenient patsies.

Steve St Clair link

4/18/2013 06:39:32 pm

I keep looking through this post or the other for any apology from you, Jason, to Scott for leaping on a fake story and running with it. Did I miss the part where you apologize for sloppy and slanted reporting?

Christopher Randolph

4/18/2013 07:19:10 pm

I imagine it's nice to take a break from counting Templar gold coins like Scrooge McDuck and dispatch a nastygram in the downtime.

No one 'leapt on a fake story,' which implies that Jason knew it was fake. He's printed a retraction; since you're an alternative history type I don't expect you to be familiar with the word:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/retraction?s=t

But you want an apology too?

We now have something in common incidentally; we've both been on TV in shows "not meant to be considered factual." In my case I was an extra in "Hack" when they filmed on location here in Philadelphia, and you appear to have done rather better having had a small speaking role in a drama series called "America Unearthed."

Should we expect your character back next year, or will you replaced by Mr. Furley or Cousin Oliver, or maybe Chachi..?

Tara Jordan

4/18/2013 08:50:41 pm

Steve St Sinclair ou "l'energie du desespoir".Your sneers are inappropriate and wholly misplaced.

Jason Colavito link

4/18/2013 11:37:29 pm

I reported at the time what a seemingly credible source who had provided reliable information (confirmed by other sources) had said. That turned out to be wrong. I also printed that I was uncertain whether it happened. Further, the story was already publicly available (from other hands) on other outlets, such as Facebook, where anyone could have read the same material.

The problem was that A+E took nearly a week to get back to me on the story.

Of course I'm sorry that anything I printed turned out to be false, but the person who needs to be apologizing is the individual who has falsly claimed to be speaking authoritatively about America Unearthed as someone familiar with the production.

I'm not sure, incidentally, that it's a BETTER story that the network isn't aware of Scott Wolter's views, doesn't watch his show, and treats him as non-factual "entertainment." Frankly, I'd prefer to have reported that story the first time because that's even worse than the fake one, which at least made him look like a martyr being oppressed.

Gabe

6/30/2013 05:26:22 pm

"I'd prefer to have reported that story the first time because that's even worse than the fake one"

Using public sources like Facebook.
Did I also understand that you posted before A+E got back to you because " they took more than a week to get back to you."

These are just some examples of why it's sketchy, with todays social media, giving any blog true credibility.

Honorary degrees...best selling authors...experts in ancient astronaut theory.

Everyone need to think for themselves. With all due respect, three comments in, we have people quoting this article as accurate, despite the fact that the article was written because the previous article was completely wrong.
Everyone seems to be in such a hurry to be first without always being accurate. This isn't an attack at you Jason, this is prevalent in most circles.

Scott Wolter claims an honorary degree but expects everyone to know where to look to verify that it's accurate.
Jason, you claim to be a "best selling" author but expect people just finding out who you are to know to look at your previous blogs to know that you mean...in a certain month, in a certain category, on amazon.
I can claim to have 15 years of managerial sales experience despite that 6 of those years were selling fragrances from my home with one other individual helping me, but I was his manager.

Everyone uses creative editing to boost their credentials. To have the nerve to crucify someone for doing the same thing you do is hypocritical at best. While the degrees might be different the action is the same.

Ultimately, my point is this. Know that WHATEVER you read probably comes with a perspective that is trying to influence you. Read multiple sources (preferably named) that will help you make an intelligent informed decision. After that, still keep an open mind that more information could still be out there that will change that interpretation.

Jason Colavito link

6/30/2013 11:32:45 pm

First, please do show me where on my website I'm listing myself as "bestselling author." It's not on my homepage, and if you read my biography, it clearly states "author of the Amazon.com archaeology best-seller." I made sure to avoid using the bestseller adjective before my name precisely so you could not make this argument, and I even had a blog post back in April or so explaining this in detail.

I'm not sure you understand how journalism works. I found a story on Facebook, and I interviewed the individual behind the story, who provided additional details that I was able to confirm with independent sources. I reached out to A+E for comment, and they did not make themselves available prior to the deadline for publication. Have you never read a news article that said "so-and-so was not avialable for comment"?

In the end, Scott Wolter himself would eventually confirm (back in may--again, see my blog posts) that my original article contained correct information and that the History spokesperson was lying. I would recommend directing your anger at History, who fudged and fabricated their response to me in an attempt to manipulate my story.

Who would ever counsel against reading multiple sources? I think my perspective and point of view are fairly clear.

J. Keller

10/11/2013 07:18:42 pm

Well if the so called source was acctualy credible you should have verified the story before running it, that is if you want to be credible & respected yourself

Jason Colavito link

10/11/2013 11:34:48 pm

Scott Wolter himself later confirmed the original story in a radio interview, so History lied to me and your outrage is misplaced.

MIke DAntuono

2/4/2014 08:26:38 am

Jason, I feel you have lost sight on what you do...
For one Scott is not a leading spokesmen for all historians .
I'll tell you what ... Want to see a story that really will blow his cap off and yours. Two things, one is the Mason Dixon line. The 90 degree corner is in direct line with the solutes point in the Stone Hedge circle. Which aligns with the white house front door, and the other From there I found a land map close to turkey , but it is what this map shows!... I think most of you are missing out on this whole thing , its going to blow up. Although I think the show its self is a set up by the Masons to debunk these ideas ... I find more by looking my self. Scott is not even touching on the bigger deals , I believe he is afraid... If not then I would think he would listen to our comments.

Shawn Sinclair

5/20/2013 04:58:18 pm

I see Jason has deleted all of my posts and those of his minions, interesting. Could it be because I told one or two of his members to " tuck their rag ( tampon) in the right hole ie their mouth, where it belongs in stead of slandering others? I think steve has a good point and another is perhaps all those " members" are one in the same, perhaps Jason likes to make up false names and use his alter-ego to make people think he's agreed with more than he thinks. Hmmm

Jason Colavito link

5/20/2013 11:28:46 pm

I only deleted specific verbally abusive posts about which there were specific complaints. I don't post under any other names but mine; I have IP address records for all posters that confirm this.

Mike Dantuono

2/15/2014 01:57:37 pm

The Templar Night strikes again. I do not think you are who you say you are. Your language is awfully disrespectful and surely offended your ancestors.
Oh yea.... I forgot your blood line was the reason for the killings of millions of people throughout time. Your family caused the whole middle east to the day destroy the very fabric of Christ and his message . Killing in the name of Christ. Please quit writing devil. Your family has done enough for this world.

Mike Dantuono

2/15/2014 01:57:47 pm

Mike Dantuono

2/15/2014 01:57:54 pm

lillian solis

5/2/2013 09:23:12 am

I really do not care if "America Unearthed" is either factual or otherwise ! I enjoy it ! "Decoded" was also a favorite of mine ! Besides along with a lot of false Implications" there are some truths ! Ratings ? Don't care ! With all those "Mayan Calendar" shows on last year that I enjoyed too doesn't mean I take them with a "grain of salt" just as the rest of the Hype" of End of the world theme shows ! First off The Mayan Calendar was just too accurate BUT simply put mislead a lot of people into believing ! However my feelings have always been that changes will be drastic in the coming years (climate change n etc) Mother Nature will exact her revenge n soon ! [Mayan-Georgia] connection ? Maybe I am the one trying to make a connection But the connection I immediately thought of was the Georgia "guide stones" n are very close to the National park in question ! If I seem "out there" so what ! I enjoyed watching most of this kind of programing n I'm not feeble minded just tend to be a disaster "freak" .....

Jason Colavito link

5/2/2013 10:37:04 am

So, you're OK with TV telling you things that aren't true on the off chance something therein might be true? Wouldn't you rather have shows talk about what is real? How else is the average viewer to decide which claims are "false" and which are "truths"?

shawn Sinclair

5/20/2013 05:02:28 pm

So where's your show then Jason??? Ohh...thats right you don't have one or ever did one. Why not since you can critique soooooooo many with ease?

Raymond Howard

11/23/2013 05:56:33 pm

Jason, what is true? If your looking for the Higgs Boson particle, unless you have a Cern excellerator, you're not going to find it, and there are plenty of average people, let alone pseudo scientists, and otherwise Theoretical Physicists, curious that it extists. What these programs like America Unearthed provide, is curiosity. The average person if they look for "truth", their going to find it. It's done by critical thinking, and you know that better than the average person. Yes, you want to seek "evidence." If the program doesn't provide it, then the average person's access to a computer is going to look for what available information there is and filter it by way of their own analysis. You know full well one person reading the Bible is going to talk about Angels, and Nephelim, others are going to be looking at philology first, and work with the poetic aspects of ancient middle eastern yarn utilizing literal and allegorical meanings with metaphors, and come up logically at some point with, ah, ha, extraterrestrial aliens! Granted, until with today's sciences there are better upgrades found for the technology, we are going to rely on everything from spectral annalysis, CT scan, to DNA testing. You want to find the Holy Gral beyond Scott Wolter, then look for it, but mind you, you have only otherwise the Qumran copper plates to follow... and their pretty hard to read their so corroded. How's you're Aramaic, Greek and Latin to boot in filling in those gaps?

Mike DAntuono

12/14/2013 01:21:40 am

Jason... Do you really think that most information on TV is the truth... Come on! You know most is not true, even the news is mostly lies...Plus didn't he do the study at the pentagon. Our government only hires the best....

Todd

10/11/2013 05:16:15 pm

Sure they told you it was fake why don't you post this from history channel. Because your the jealous fake person and I could give a fuck less what all the people here think

Todd

10/11/2013 05:27:04 pm

All you do is cry because people don't agree with you if you were half as smart as you claim to be I'm sure you'd have a show on some channel. Just keep blogging from your moms basement how you know everything and everyone else is wrong and how bad shows are. I love that you can't admit when your wrong it's someelse fault or a very reliable source you have no contacts loser. And to be a "best seller" on Amazon is nothing special at all it was most likely on the $1 downloads

Mike DAntuono

12/12/2013 07:02:10 am

I knew this guy just air. I like your comment . But to add again... to the gental men who wrote the page...
If you have no data supporting your ideas then this site is a lie and you have no respect for knowledge

Jason Colavito link

12/12/2013 08:03:23 am

Earlier this year Scott Wolter himself confirmed much of my original story in a radio interview. It turned out my source was correct and the History spokesperson misled me to try to bury the story.

MIke Dantuon

12/12/2013 07:48:53 pm

Really ... What storie is that?

MIke Dantuon

12/12/2013 07:49:04 pm

Really ... What storie is that?

Raymond Howard

11/23/2013 05:36:31 pm

Far as Scott Wolter, and the series America Unearthed, comon people, it's a show... with good alter history, speculation!!! There is alot in the United States, that shows whether pre-history or history, that much was known about the "New World" all along... and no doubt by way of so to speak secret societies. The problem evoked here, in presentation is very evident even today and on into tomorrow that there are just certain concepts some people, mainly Christian that want to hold onto, that really have nothing to do with the reality of Jesus as a person, (which that is all he was or could be) that make him to be in their eyes, conscience... for lack of a better word, "paradigm" think of him only as someone paranormal. The secret about secret societies is there is no secret!!! Yet, with persecution that Cathars, Merovigians, Carolinians, Templars let alone Jews ever experienced from the time of the early Catholic Church on, what else to do but go underground with so to speak "secret societieis?" The many codices, and alter histories that are led into question, if not for the Catholic Church, (an organization that has sequestered, let alone destroyed many ancient manuscripts from either the old world or the new, as the Mayan Codex is exampled, and if to reveal the "truth" amidst all this writing would not exist any longer in today's world... and ergo, so too the Protestant faith as it stands.) much would be accessible for public consumption let alone scholarly review to reveal much that is in question of the program. Usually, nay sayers are there not for the sake of history or science, as the evidence is just too telling otherwise, it is because they feel threatened to their pre-existing establishments of organized religion, in which such concepts... everything from a Jesus Code to extraterrestrial aliens, confronts them and what they think in regards to their own spirt, that is lost without the figurehead of Jesus as conventionally perceived in his execution on the cross. More times than not, there is plenty of evidence that is found, catalogued, and not mentioned publicly, as if one would only read the Brookings Report on the public reception of alien contact alone. This kind of thinking applies to all kinds of mystery and curiosities such as presented on the History Channel in this manner, and so... executives of the series aren't going to overact to the issues as they are, as in their minds... history, science, the body of Christ...Sasquatch, mermaids, and aliens etc.,... are all "ENTERTAINMENT!" Think of that! Oh, and by the way some of those media executives who say they haven't followed the program are already elected and honorary 33 degree Masons, Rosicrucians, if not actually Occulists or Jewish!!! Ha Ha!

lilly

12/2/2013 04:46:35 am

t5o Jason Colavito
Hi:
This Scott Wolter jumps all over the place with his so called "Findings" but ignored the real discoverers of America. The Icelanders.My husban d descended from Icelanders and I know the real story how America was discovered and what sacrifises the Icelanders haD TO ENDURE WHEN SAILING OVER THE UNCHARTERED oCDEAN, WHEN EVERYONE THOUGHT THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND AT THE END AN ABYSS.
tshau, lilly

Raymond Howard

12/2/2013 10:28:56 am

To tshau, lilly and anyone else....

I've read some of the complaints herein aside from my previous comments, which is interesting; I've received no arguments in return... so there I seem to be right on target. Wouldn't mind a discussion if there was one to be had. Now, tshau, lilly, if you've got something on your property and live in America, or if you have something in Iceland from America as little as 700 years old or 150 thousand, then contact the program's producers or Wolter's address, and alert him. Swords, Celtic crosses in stone or otherwise in metals of iron or bronze, runes, even velum, parchment, what ever you have that can be tested for its validity and its Provence. Oral stories are good, but it isn't like when the Grimm brother's in their study of philology could in the process of tracing Aryan and Shemetic languages for trade routes and origin be able to compile Grimm's Fairy Tales. I may not know better... than correct me, but Icelandic legends and myths are strongly tied to most everything that is Celtic and Gaelic in origin aside the Papars. Thus, those stories that are germane to Iceland pretty much developed after the arrival of Norsemen in Iceland. So, if you have any evidence to Papars prior to 870 AD I'm sure that Wolter, and for that matter any bonifide 'real' so to speak archaeologist would be thrilled to know. Don't let them know about the little people though, elves, fairies, and gnomes... those they pretty much put them in the category of only folk lore. Let’s just keep that special secret to ourselves.... shhh!

Raymond Howard

12/2/2013 10:15:37 am

To tshau, lilly

Interesting... Icelanders discovered America. Fine... the point is the offereing of people on that program of what they find curious usually on their property that is anachronistic or anamolous to what is otherwise presently known or excepted archaelogy. Scott Wolter, no matter how you want to look at him, is whether you like it or not a 'forensic' archaelogist. What makes that different from the run of the mill archaelogist with a PhD? The difference is that Scott Wolter also has had his credentials augmented in Police Science. Whether dead bodies of most recent or dead bodies of thousands of years ago... as well as any other collected evidence, it's going to be looked into with a different approach than just a cop walking into a crime scene or the archaelogists upon a dig, although you might think of the later as there really should be no difference.

I've read some of the complaints herein aside from my previous commnents, which is interesting, I've received no arguments in return... so there I seem to be right on target. Wouldn't mind a discussion if there was one to be had. Now, tshau, lilly, if you've got something on your property and live in America, or if you have something in Iceland from Amererica as little as 700 years old or 150 thousand, then contact the program's producers, or Wolter's address, and alert him. Swords, celtic crosses in stone or otherwise in metals of iron or bronze, runes, even velum, parchment, what ever you have that can be tested for its validity and its providence. Oral stories are good, but it isn't like when the Grimm brother's in their study of philology could in the process of tracing Aryan and Shemetic languages for trade routes and origin be able to compile Grimm's Fairy Tales. I may not know better... than correct me, but Icelandic lengends and myths are strongly tied to most everything that is Celtic. and Gaelic in origin aside the Papars. Thus, those stories that are germain to Iceland pretty much developed after the arrival of Norsemen in Iceland. So, if you have any evidence to Papars prior to 870 AD I'm sure that Wolter, and for that matter any bonifide 'real' so to speak archaelogist would be thrilled to know. Don't let them know about the little people though, elves, fairies, and gnomes... those they pretty much put them in the category of only folk lore. Lets just keep that special secret to ourselves.... shhh!

bob

1/4/2014 06:53:54 am

America Unearthed is right on some things and off on others. As for Ancient Aliens there is some truth there too. All religious tales have gods coming from the stars. If you want truth look pre Christian. It's to young a religion to explain things at the beginning of humanity. No disrespect to it and it's moral teachings. The older the recorded history the more chance of finding truth is all I'm saying.

Raymond Howard

1/4/2014 11:57:13 am

Your correct Bob, Christianity is too young a religion, and so is Islam, but between the two, the later in many instances for the history has retained outside its own extremes much of the history of its world intact. Actually the Christian world too, but more on the secular level its intact. Case in point, cosmology of the Universe, as it occurs from the whole universe, with the vastness between galaxies, and intermittency of dark matter, anti matter, otherwise anyone solar system, to us as only being a planet third from the Sun amongst seven others and a planetoid, with one possibly two other wandering ones, Christians that are fundamental will argue their case upon the KJV or derivative thereafter, to bring up expanding earth theories to put square peg in round hole explanations of the morphology of the earth using James Ussher's Chronology coming from the 17th Century... and never you mind all the sciences having come into being since the, between geology, physics, and the social sciences and academics of anthropology, archaeology, genetics, etc.

Your exactly right, the original Book of Judaism, denoted as the Torah, erst our Old Testament, is a book quite interestingly enough since Hellenic times especially that for all its reverence there, is otherwise for its literary device understood far better than the paradigm of christianity that takes it literal, to Jews overall it provides allegory.

Many will argue this point mercilessly in their interpretation that Jews look at it literally. Why would they write it the way they did if it wasn't literal? Shows how much allot of people misunderstand the overall Middle Eastern psyche. It is remnant in the vast story telling and poetry that is ancient with the Middle East, and contemporary today, most to note in Persia, present day Iran and just as well in Syria or Jordan.

The ancient astronaut theory is in many ways a good one, especially when a people either in writing or if exigent today tell you so, that their ancestors came from the stars. Unfortunately, many Christians poised on fable of Noah's Ark, will tell you nearly every culture on the planet cites a great flood.

I suppose if we didn't have news coverage, satellite telemetry, then old news like Hurricane Katrina, or the Tsunami of Japan a few years ago, might be chronicled as a great flood, but being we do have the technology, we know better. The Aegean cascading into a depression that we now know as the Black Sea some 7,600 years ago, I'm sure was quite cataclysmic to the Holocene epoch people there... and the Babylonian Mesopotamian, Sumerian cultures in reciting the event, with the weave of cause and effect in the mysteries of behavior turned it into a morality story along with ancient astronaut reference that produced a proto- Genesis story that the Hebrews, coming originally from there, while traversing around the fertile crescent to Canaan transformed the narrative to what we have since their inscriptions as the Old Testament with their own contrived history punctuating it. The emphasis in culture magnified with monotheism attached to it, probably in many ways for the effort of consolidating many gods into one, as to travel light without allot of stone idols to have to carry about. A practical solution that Mohamed had to revisit around 600 AD to end up with the reverence of the Kaaba Stone and a Moslem's once in a life time, (like the pilgrimage of Jews to the Wailing Wall where the Temple once stood prior to 70 AD), trek to Mecca.

Scott Wolter, and unearthing America? Good stuff, and again I agree with you on your assessment, some on some off on the actual history. One thing though, for archaeological forensics... once you get around or obtain the permits... sometimes exceedingly hard to do with legitimacy given the politics just on convention of how science works with anomalous artifacts... the wonders be told!

Joey

2/2/2014 05:47:13 pm

Mr.Howard,I am fascinated by your vast knowledge of history on so many subjects,would you mind me asking what your occupation is?
Thanks Joey

Jeff Stoleson

1/4/2014 02:42:58 pm

2 Things come to light here . 1 the Government DOES NOT HIRE THE BEST THEY HIRE THE BROWN NOSER...
When I did the Gang in the Military with the History Channel , Greg the producer got all sorts of heat and had to water down the Special. Being said it cost me everything I ever had in life , Big Brother reached out and made sure I lost my job upon returning from Iraq.
The other is when I was there I got to see several sites of the Anninaki and the Temple of UR , unfortunately for the History of Mankind the museums were sacked by thugs and it's lost for the Ages , but as a young man I traveled the West, Southwest of the US and the lore of the people who wrote the time of their own is to much to ignore when you start talking about how it mirrors the Ancient world and you have to take some of it as fact , we take the euro caves as such thus we have to put in our own backyard caves and writings without question correct. I have seen this and it has a effect on your being to put yourself in the footsteps of them before you , the cultural people of old understood or planet better than we did , why they wrote it down we just lost or way or became to arrogant to think any other . By the way the Temples in Honduras are amazing , look up and to think we or God whom ever he is to you made just us. Really who's stuck with their head where ... Open your mind and shut down the stupid get outside the TV Box ....

Raymond Howard

1/5/2014 07:38:28 pm

Jeff, I see where your coming from... mainly in your dealing with, "the Gang In the Military", without having seen the footage. Meantime, checked ZoomInfo.com, to get beyond the effect of your writing toward the end of your post, because I realized it seemed a bit vague until I read the background afterward why it was... although you were really trying to hit home. Let me remind you of something going back to the June 3, 1943... that the military mostly Navy and Marines being jumped by Zoot Suiters, prior on May 30, 1943 took the issues finally of criminals into their own hands along side the police, and it became mayhem of riots in dozens of major cities across America. While were talking about this, meantime in the last 60 years the pachuco gangs have been romanticized by Broadway, and amongst others, Joan Baez herself when she lived in Redlands, CA, and writing her first memoire', or Autobiography if you will of, Daybreak with her purported interaction with some of the local hanchos during the 50s while going to school, hanging out in preference with them, then singing in the glee club. Graffiti? Seen allot of it in my time, unfortunately. But the problem of what you saw in Iraq, yeah, grandpa and grand uncles taught allot of these guys you were with, how to garret... pocket watches with long chains were not only for keeping time. Italians piano wire, yes... pachuco's, watch chains, and the military figured at the time, jail... long stay, or send them to combat and either they get killed or redeemed. That was then, now is now.... and everything is meant to be politically correct. You shouldn't be fooled, far as racism, of white against Chicano or whatever they want to be called outside their gang affiliations, you know full well otherwise their as intelligent as any West Point Officer, the problem is they were brought up with a chip on their shoulder, and the gang substitutes the actual grain of values that are imbedded in familia, and thus they'll die with chips on their shoulders. Don't feel betrayed, nor continue to feel black listed... just take for granted you are... and your not alone. Far as Hollywood is concerned I could give you one hell of a story, but then I'd have to kill you! I know I don't need to elaborate, if you can just imagine what you experienced, me saying that, is the very tip of the iceberg. Just keep your head high, move forward, and far as big brother... get around to producing your own films and go to local. It takes time, but sooner or later those brown noses will be trying to brown nose you. Just remember... they've got the chip on their shoulder, not you!!!

April

1/5/2014 04:20:35 pm

History channel said this is entertainment only? They should be ashamed of their treatment of the gentlemen at the museum during the Lost Colony episode. The stones he insists are real were proven and confessed to being fake long ago.In addition, DNA has proven the Lost Colony settlers DID stay right in the area. He ignores historical fact then calls others closed minded. Not amused.

DKJ

2/1/2014 03:26:31 pm

I had hopes that this show would delve into real history, those hopes died during the first episode. Now I watch the show for laughs. I admit that I am fascinated by the idea of pre-Columbian European visitors to North America ( I once went up to Heavener OK and saw the ruin stones) unlike Wolter I confess that there is no real evidence to support the idea. Everything that I have seen is either from later immigrants or is an outright fraud.

Wolter is a "true believer" when he should be a skeptic.

DKJ

2/1/2014 03:29:04 pm

I am pleased to see the negative comments concerning the show in these comments; it renews some of my faith in the value of an American education.

Mike DAntuono

2/4/2014 08:08:42 am

I don't put square pegs in round holes....lol I put them in the star hole... Why cause the square is boring...
Mr. Howard , it's a pleasure to see you writing still.
I would like to interject if I may on a few things you wrote about.
First sorry about my spelling and grammar....

"Christians that are fundamental will argue their case upon the KJV or derivative thereafter, to bring up expanding earth theories to put square peg in round hole explanations of the morphology of the earth using James Ussher's Chronology coming from the 17th Century... and never you mind all the sciences having come into being since the, between geology, physics, and the social sciences and academics of anthropology, archaeology, genetics, etc."

Now you know that I have a different view then most " Christians "
So I will try to say this simple as always... We do not know how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden Before Sin. They could have been there for millions of years. One reference in the Genius
is that one day God noticed Adam was lonely.... Well how many days was he there before her? The King James Bible was a device created by powers that at that time common men who would not understand due to the fact that most people of the 17th century had no education could be controlled . Only due to the tormented minds
of the out come of the black plague , and the fact that it killed almost every one in Europe. The world population was a if the great flood happened all over again. The evidence is old writing on a monk who was walking through Europe and stated that he walked hundreds of miles before even seeing one person.
Its not just Ussher who was looking at these things... Sir Isacc Newton also predetermined the date at 4000 bc. The Greatest mind out side of Leonardo Da Vinci who devised a date also what like 150 years prior to this.
As a follower of Christ, a so called" Christian" I do not believe the Earth is 4-7000 years old. That date is the pre curser of the tower of Babel. Where man knew God . How did he know him , the fallen re told the story to men. The older writings of man telling this story threw the Fallen Princely blood line of God.
So to this I am not a Christian who argues the KJV but a follower of the Son of God who argues for loves sake, for the sake of the millions who lost their life due to a name they embraced during the Greek invasion under Antiochus Apephines when he declared himself the Prince of Hosts. Or the Son of god , while he sprinkled pigs blood on the alter in the Holy of Holys, to the Roman upraise against people who were called Christians. Not by choice but a term used to mock them . To the thousands who died just to LOVE.
Why is this hard for people to understand. These people lost their life because they loved people and gave their life to declare who they learned it from. And the other side of the coin the son of God "Jesus Christ, this name for modern believers" , translated is " The Savior of Zeus!" So I do not follow or respect the modern Ideals of these people . Why , they are following the wrong Christ. Enough of that and to the point.

No the history of those people in the ancient world is not lost . Just needs to be re found. But the closest is The Book Of the Giants. For those who are still seeking....
These history is not lost... just controlled. Why else would the US military raid Museums and steal the artifacts and destroy some... I cant believe we call our selves modern men and do these things still to cover the truth of our history...
When will men understand , we are here to take care of the garden? Not the Earth,Christ already did this with the blood and water. The Garden is the Heavens... Look up , why do we all wonder ... Why do we not look down and wonder.

As far as your Zoot Suites wow you know your stuff...

Last lets stop treating men in the past like they had no Idea.. These guy's floated tons of rock using magnetics, they were very smart...
They had no hearts... killing was easy and it was harder to live then to die where we find it easy to live and death is far from us. How is that possible..... the humanity of one man, changed this, which separated this way of life ... where he is life and there is no death in him... Funny
We can quote all these books and site anything we want, but in the long run it is man who comes to the conclusion with in his own mind, this is were we step out of the box and become intelligent.
Is it that killing is wrong ? Ask a 4yr old child new to the world and see what they would say.. or a child at 10...
There's a old saying amongst scholar's " No matter how far your studies or your scholastic endeavors take you nothing is more important than the humanity seen in you by others."
As far as chemicals making up this spirit... THis is not possible to create a chemical for trillions of people . The proof is human sperm , look it up everyone.... The proof we are created with separate minds , finger prints, souls ect... Why d

Raymond Howard

2/4/2014 03:59:45 pm

Hi Mike DAntuono! It comes to this, between religion and science, between creation vs evolution, when all is said and done far as argumentation, then, far as the issues of more recent in anthropology, science and medicine, it doesn't take us out of the nomenclature and semantics of the following, (variously Homo sapiens and Homo sapiens sapiens) are primates of the family Hominidae, and the only extant species of the genus Homo. Homo Sapien, ( Knowing man or wise man), and in being Linnaen about it, Classification, Animal. Being, that the average European has 3 > 5% Neanderthal, and otherwise per population of the planet our DNA is otherwise 99% the same of all so called races, (Viktor Frankl,(26 March 1905 – 2 September 1997) said there are only two types of race of man, the decent and indecent.) and Chimpanzee's and us share all but of about 5% difference in DNA, I'm fine with being able to ape a man barring any fossil record missing of transitions.

James Ussher, dying in 1656, when Carl Linnaes wasn't even born yet until 1707, much less Charles Darwin, for publishing, On the Origin of Species on 24 November 1859, does not make beginning or end of discussion, let alone criticism to the chronology he provided. Aside from Jesus saying, "I am the Alpha and Omega", doesn't leave it as well that he actually made any reference to argument on what Darwin wrote, and probably being let alone a Jew, an Aramaic speaking one, probably well versed in Greek, having traveled to Egypt in his time engaging with other interrelating languages, was probably amidst Hermetics as well, and not withstanding Romans, "Lend unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's", that he didn't learn enough of what Hippocrates ( 460 BC – 377 BC) handed down in history for medical supply for any kind of healing, including faith healing.

I'd go on about more disputes of the Bible, from beginning to end, but that would just end up leaving all kinds of discussions again at all kinds of levels of hypothesis and theories, between what we know of the beginning of "known" writing to provide any documentation, or otherwise controversy of buildings on Malta being over 6000 years old, onto ancient astronaut theory, with the argument to be pointed out to me, that these are simply tangential at some point. The Bible, to me is allegorical, not in any way literal, except to certain events of history, and as of 1844 in this country, religion for the great reformation in it's Christianity left it open for all the more poor interpretations, not better, but worse for it in comparisons for more to be had literalism since the Puritans.

Wonderful thing there that First Amendment in the Constitution, leaving it open to free assembly of association, choice of faith of a religion, or in this effect having none, insomuch of having to be in the structure of an actual convention of church and congregation to continue one's faith proffered in this particular adherents opinions. "People are going to believe what ever they want to believe.”, and that, despite any real winner on this debate of the ever continuing dispute of evolution vs. Creation...

Rhetorical Questions: "What is the Golden Ratio?" How do Fibonacci numbers fit in it, with fractals?

Look for amino acids and DNA, let alone actual bacteria in Meteorites, and comets!

Thanks for posting, Mike, lets do it again.

Russ Scott

6/12/2014 07:29:21 am

Today Scott Wolter examined a rockwall in Rockwall Tx.He did a magnatism test and discovered the magnatism in the rocks all went in the same direction, therfore the rocks were a natural formation. Did he fail grade school science? If you place a nail on a magnet and leave it there the nail's magnatism will be in the same direction. Is that imperical or devine wisdom? Or is Scott Wolter just showing how intelligent he is NOT? I am sick of his fairy tales.

Raymond Howard

6/12/2014 10:01:07 am

Well, I don't know if Scott Wolter spells magnetism, as magnatism, but what I do know is that when rocks are laid by men/women, where 'magnetism' is concerned in any and all rocks... unless there is some point to align them "magnetically" they don't then uniformally show their pole alignment one to the other in the same direction. Being then in any given random arrangement however otherwise for formation appearance as a stacked wall of rocks or stones, they are going to be 'natural' in formation when they do. Not wise, as in Weisenheimer, just wise in "common sense" of scientific methodology and knowing a rock wall with iron deposit trace or otherwise linearity earth magnetic pole imprint of epochs as rocks form, is going to be different to present day alignment, so to speak set in stone. Last time as to any pole shift is well beyond 6000 years ago, so... Scott Wolter is not brilliant, just practical in the science using the most basic testing needed to qualify the statement, and somebody else needs to go back to school, disregard what they learned in grade school, and take Geology/Paleaontology/Archaeology 101 in Junior College.

russ scott

6/12/2014 03:10:14 pm

Well I never won any spelling bees, and I sure thought I was done with the teacher checking my paper to check my spelling.

But then I did check out the Rockwell Texas information. If you had also you would have seen that there was metal rings in the wall. Along with doorways and window spaces in the rock wall. Also artifacts and writing was found. I do not believe these items were put there by nature. I do believe man had a hand in this. Had the GREAT Scott Wolter took the time to do some research rather than learn how to use heavy equipment he would have found this information it is not restricted nor hidden.

- Sorry about that. -

russ scott

6/12/2014 03:10:23 pm

Russ Scott

6/12/2014 03:11:02 pm

Dan in Atlanta

8/14/2014 06:13:16 am

I find the show entertaining, and I take Mr. Wolters claims as speculation and theory, and any conclusions he may come to is strictly his opinion.

That doesn't make him a bad person or a fraud. He gives an educated guess, which is how science works in general.

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