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Uri Geller Plans to Excavate the Ancient "Egyptian" Treasure of Fictitious Princess Scota on a Scottish Island He Owns

7/28/2017

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​A long time ago, before I was born, Uri Geller was famous as a spoon-bender, and it is rather astonishing that “spoon-bender” was ever a profession, even if he was technically supposed to be some kind of telekinetic. His repertoire of tricks was always rather threadbare, and I can remember amazing my New Age classmates in anthropology classes by doing the spoon-bending trick and making objects move with the power of my “mind.” I performed such tricks—based on physics and misdirection—because one of my classmates claimed with a straight face that Buddhism had given him telekinetic powers, and he tried the same prestidigitation but called it a spiritual miracle. He also claimed he could levitate, but only when no one else was around to see. 
​I bring this up only by way of introducing Geller’s latest attempt to try to remain relevant four decades after his heyday. Back in 2009 Geller bought the tiny Isle of Lamb in Scotland’s Firth of Forth, and now the septuagenarian psychic is planning an archaeological dig on the island because he had a vision that the land hides the lost Egyptian treasure of the fictional Egyptian princess Scota, the retroactive eponym of Scotland. “When I was on the island, I felt it,” Geller told The Mirror this week.
 
Geller said that he became convinced of the existence of the lost treasure during his one and only visit to the island in 2010, in which he paced the 100-yard-long island with dowsing rods. Nevertheless, he is sure that the treasure is there. “It will shatter the idea of Scottish historians that the Egyptians never came to Scotland,” he said.
 
You don’t need to worry about paradigms shifting anytime soon, however. Geller is planning an excavation in 2019, assuming he receives the right permissions from the relevant authorities. A lot depends, weirdly enough, on the mating habits of seabirds and whether Geller might disturb them.
 
The search for Scota is one of those eccentric quests that animate the antiquarians of the British Isles. It originates in a medieval confusion, in a time when Ireland and Scotland were both known as “Scotia,” and the Christianized myths of the Celts tried to connect these lands back to the events of the Bible. While the developed form of the Scota myth first occurs in the Book of Leinster, an Irish chronicle of the twelfth century, the earlier Historia Brittonum of Pseudo-Nennius makes reference to the Scota story (though in but one recension; the others speak only of a Scythian exile from Egypt and not his royal wife), demonstrating that it has a rather early medieval provenance. Scholars speculate that the story arose in order to support Scottish claims to independence, a counter-myth to the more famous but equally false story of how Brutus of Troy, descendant of Aeneas, settled Britain and connected England back to the Classical world and the founding family of the Roman Empire.
 
If you are really interested, you’d probably like to know that the account of Pseudo-Nennius seems to derive from Henry of Huntington’s Historia Anglorum, which in turn drew upon Bede’s Historia Ecclesiastica and the Vatican recension of the Historia Brittonum (which predates the one referenced above), all of which traced the origins of the peoples of Ireland and/or Scotland back to “Scythia,” though not always to Egypt. Across the texts, we see a gradual accretion of details as the myth became increasingly Biblical with each novel detail tacked on over the course of a century or two.
 
The myth of Scota is so dubious that even the British Israelists, who look for connections between the British Isles and the Middle East, laughed at it. Here, for example, is British Israelist F. R. A. Glover in 1861 explaining why Scota could not have been the namesake of Scotland:
A lady is honoured as being the cause of this effect: Scota, the daughter or wife of Gathelus. But as she and her illustrious companion are assigned to very early times, and the word Scotia was never heard of as a name for Ireland earlier than the third century after Christ, that celebrated lady may be set aside with all the other ladies, whose names were always at hand, with Bards and Annalists, to give a name to Ireland whenever a reason had to be assigned for what chroniclers had heard of, as an adjective descriptive of their Island, and they were unable otherwise to account for.
​The story wasn’t good enough for a man who literally tried to argue that the British were the Biblical Jews, but it’s good enough for Uri Geller—who adds the completely bonkers detail that Scota was the half-sister of King Tutankhamun! That claim doesn’t appear in any major fringe books I can find, but it shows up on Scottish nationalist message boards, Pinterest groups, and other fringes of the fringe. Amazing, isn’t it, that a so-called psychic had a totally 100% legit vision of a fictional character?
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Naughtius
7/28/2017 09:34:17 am

I've read that one of the reasons that Scythia pops up in origin myths is that back in the day they were considered to be direct descendants of one of Noah's grandsons, Japeth.
Supposedly some people also got the idea that his descendants were the original Ind Europeans.

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Americanegro
7/28/2017 04:39:27 pm

There's a crackpot student of crackpot Charles Muses who teaches a physical culture system he calls "The Scythian Way". He conflates Scythians, Sarmatians, and of course Gurdjieff's Sarmoun Brotherhood.

wisbod.com

When I hear the word "Scythian" I reach for my wallet AND my revolver.

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PNO TECH
8/3/2017 10:37:41 pm

When I hear 'Scythian', I check my calendar / schedule a day off: they are a incredibly fun Celtic Rock band. I highly recommend seeing them at an outdoor venue.

Apologies for the digression/shameless plug.
Carry on

Only Me
7/28/2017 12:33:35 pm

I can think of better places to hide a treasure than an island that's roughly the size of a football field...disregarding the fictional nature of said treasure, that is.

When a British Israelist is telling you your origin story is bupkis, you have a problem.

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Americanegro
7/28/2017 02:41:14 pm

"I can think of better places to hide a treasure..."

Am I the only one thinking "Minnesota"?

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Palpie
7/28/2017 03:40:15 pm

No you only leave vague land claims there. You bury treasure on oak island.

Which makes me wonder if anyone has tried to make Treasure Island be a true account and connect it to oak island. If not that is my new theory.

Only Me
7/28/2017 03:53:20 pm

I can neither confirm nor deny. I've heard it said the coordinates are recorded on the stones themselves, but it would take an expert codebreaker to find the exact spot.

There's also rumors about the Grand Canyon and even the Rockies. It would take a bona fide seeker of truth and master of several disciplines to get to the bottom of this, I'm sure.

At Risk
7/28/2017 12:34:39 pm

Egyptian treasure in medieval Ireland or Scotland? This sounds more like the lost treasure of rabid Vikings, or perhaps the treasure of Knights Templar. Both Vikings and Templars showed a considerable interest in Ireland and Scotland over the medieval years. Indeed, many slaves were taken from these two countries in medieval times, as confirmed by trustworthy segments from pertinent sagas. Vikings and treasure were in vogue in the area.

Templars and Cistercian monks, along with other various monk entities identifiable with the Catholic Church, were also busy in Ireland and Scotland a bit later. Post-Templars are thought to have possibly retired to Scotland. Again, a faint odor of treasure...yet not at all unpleasant in our fantasies. Could Egytian treasure show up in Viking treasure, or in Templar treasure, rather than directly from visiting Egyptians? Yes, why not? Yet this seems somehow unlikely, doesn't it?

One could suppose that any prospective treasures placed under the Temple Mount by King Solomon might have included Egyptian treasure. Maybe some of this treasure ended up on Geller's tiny island, by way of Vikings or later Crusaders (Templars), but I doubt it. More likely, it would have ended up in the possession of Sir Henry Sinclair, a Scotsman decended from Templars, right? In which case, Geller should sell his island and begin looking across the pond. He should immediately skip Oak Island and begin his laborious journey up the St. Lawrence Seaway....

(Fast forward.) Egyptian treasure at Runestone Hill? Why not? Who knows, maybe its a part of the GRAL treasure hidden there by representatives of the Catholic Church, even earlier than 1362, in which case the KRS party of post-Templars may have wanted to retrieve it.

But, maybe Jim is right; would a Cistercian "turncoat" be in such a party of re-acquirers? Shucks...a possible monkey-wrench....

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Americanegro
7/28/2017 02:47:39 pm

"Sir Henry Sinclair, a Scotsman decended from Templars, right?"

No.
You.
Idiot.

A Scotsman descended from people who persecuted Templars.

I have it on good authority that the Templars were in league with the Headless Monks, or at the very least traded with them. (Please don't step on the bit until we see if there's a bite).

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At Risk
7/30/2017 11:03:28 am

Americanegro (Joe), who's the idiot? You should be reported to the NAACP. Why? For impersonating a black man and then being an obnoxious troll. But, seeing your sewer-like personality over the years, I'm not at all surprised that you would do this, getting an extra kick out of your juvey impulses on this poor, victimized blog. I think you've driven away almost all intelligence remaining here...not at all a friend to the blog host.

Basically, you're a parasite with a sick sense of humor. You make this blog not very worthwhile to anyone visiting here. Who failed you in your imaginary life...your imaginary black mama? You deserve strong comdemnation for being a white man of limited intelligence pretending to be a smart but repugnant Afro-American.

But, what would one expect from someone who would say what you said about Wolter and his father? Unfortunately, there is no sense of shame with you, which makes you smack of being an attention-seeking, secretly anti-social troll. Isn't it odd what some people do with their spare time?

I hope you can better see yourself now, Joe, along with the few others still here....

Americanegro
7/30/2017 01:05:58 pm

Wow, your anger and your self-admitted OCD and Tourrette's are out in force today. Are you possessed by a demonic spirit, a Jezebel spirit? You have no rights here, her husband is the head of the house. Come on destruction. Beam weapons and time travel to create stone holes in the past to inscribe the future or the present.

Impersonating a black man? I'm just black like me, bro. And now you talkin bout my mama? That am nots a smart moves.

So in your world view I live in a sewer and am a parasite because I'm black. Interesting.

Wolter's father died when Wolter was his dive buddy, according to Wolter's account. Of course this is a guy who puts a cup of coffee on his resume as a Master's Degree. You'll have to take Wolter's negligence up with him. I wasn't his father's dive buddy.

AT RISK'S ALTER EGO
7/31/2017 04:14:19 pm

I must admit that when I am in my other personality, accusing others of being obnoxious trolls is the height of projection, and not a little ironic!

My racist tendencies tend the bleed through the veneer of sophistication, civility, and intelligence, I am desperately trying to construct for everyone here as well. It is truly a sad sight.

Not quite as sad as my intellectual pretensions, but still quite sad.

Oh, it is truly a cross to bear being a defender and ardent admirer of that paragon of historical accuracy Scott Wolter! he is nothing less than a fountainhead of wisdom indeed. We pseudo-intellectuals must band together; for if we do not love, legitimize and validate each other, who will?

Do forgive me, Americanegro, for I know not what I do.

Jim
7/28/2017 07:41:26 pm

Gunn :,,,,"But, maybe Jim is right; would a Cistercian "turncoat" be in such a party of re-acquirers? Shucks...a possible monkey-wrench.... "
Is this supposed to be what your buddy Wolter calls an "aha gotcha moment" ?
You just don't get it !,,,,,,,Inventing made up scenarios is not evidence.

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At Risk
7/30/2017 11:04:56 am

Sorry you couldn't follow along, JIM. Most of the half-way intelligent people here have left....

AT RISK'S ALTER EGO
7/31/2017 03:40:33 pm

Apologies for my ignorant other self, Jim.

You are quite right, of course, I DON'T get it, and I cannot admit it, as I am jealous of how much more read and knowledgeable others are here.

Thus my passive aggressive remark there at the end.

Please pay me no mind, when I am my other self I sound like a complete and utter tool.

TONY S.
7/28/2017 07:47:08 pm

It's all they've got, Jim.

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Joe Scales
7/28/2017 01:20:00 pm

Uri sinned against magic years ago by pretending to have super powers. Now he's just coat-tailing on the treasure hunt craze, probably angling for a television show.

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Americanegro
7/28/2017 03:31:50 pm

Don't forget his stellar work with Andrija Puharich.

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Joe Scales
7/28/2017 08:27:45 pm

Wasn't he the one who got a patent for the tin foil hat?

Americanegro
7/29/2017 12:40:49 am

You're stepping on the bit.

Joe Scales
7/29/2017 09:45:06 am

Now is the time you have to ask yourself, are you gonna breakdance or break codes here?

Ken
7/28/2017 03:32:01 pm

I believe that all Egyptian treasures were moved to the Grand Canyon circa 560 BCE.. Legend has it that it would not be discovered until 7 had died searching for it. It is written that eventually the discoverer would be a wise man known as Scott Wolter.

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Hamilton Joe Frank and Reynolds
7/28/2017 04:45:41 pm

Such a person does not exist.

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Ken
7/28/2017 06:46:39 pm

The translation of the ancient document is unclear. It says either "wise man" or "numb nuts".

Chuck
7/30/2017 03:41:10 pm

Declaration of Arbroath. Shows that Scots nobles believed this was true and acted as if it were. Also note version of the story involving the Torre de Hercules and how Scota came from Galicia.

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Bob M
7/30/2017 08:37:18 pm

That would have been a hell of a journey for Egyptian ships I would have thought. I doubt if they could have handled the Atlantic, as they could barely handle the Mediterranean.

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Americamnegro
7/31/2017 11:58:30 am

"They could barely handle" the only body of water adjacent to them? Do you even boat bro?

The Med is basically a lake. You don't sound like you know what you're talking about.

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Bob M
7/31/2017 02:37:27 pm

No, I don't "boat". But I "Hist", "Arch" and have been to the "Med". And in fact my father spent quite a bit of time there in World War II, and he agreed with me that it is quite a dangerous place. It's well known that early Mediterranean cultures "boats" used to hug the coast, and be very careful about venturing out in winter – the storm season. Just because something is a lake, doesn't mean to say that there are not dangerous storms. Do you "Edmund Fitzgerald"? Mediterranean "boats" were not particularly well-suited to the Atlantic. Particularly the north Atlantic, another place where I have been. We're not talking about Viking longships here.

TONY S.
7/31/2017 04:03:36 pm

The swells in some of the Great Lakes equal anything out in the open ocean. They are basically inland seas.

The dynastic Egyptians may have hugged the coasts (according to one source at that time they had a superstitious fear and awe of the open sea). Given the fact that their entire empire was based throughout the Nile Valley, they had no reason to venture outwards into the Med. Much of what they needed they already had. For the rest, their trade centered on overland routes chiefly from the East, and from shipping across the Red Sea. They also received imports from places like Greece and Rome through the commerce conducted by Greek cities in the Delta. But by the time of the Hellenistic era, as far as sailing the Med, things had changed radically. The Greco-Egyptian Ptolemaic Dynasty had a fleet that virtually dominated the entire Mediterranean; their naval power wouldn't be superseded until the Roman conquest.

TONY S.
7/31/2017 04:06:06 pm

Correction: MOSt of the empire was in the Nile Valley, not all. At different periods they also ruled areas of Syria, Libya, and Nubia, where they also acquired the goods they needed and wanted.

Americanegro
7/31/2017 08:38:35 pm

"And in fact my father spent quite a bit of time there in World War II, and he agreed with me that it is quite a dangerous place."

Ah, you're playing the "I have a relative who was in the military card". Why don't you toddle down to the bar and take care of the soldiers and sailors in your special way?

My only experience in the Med was open water swimming. You on the other hand are all over the map, you're saying big lakes are crappy, and you're saying big lakes are nowhere near as bad as the Atlantic.

"Particularly the north Atlantic, another place where I have been."

Wait, you've BEEN TO THE BEACH? I guess that shows me!

BobM
8/1/2017 03:04:55 am

Let me see, I once sailed from London to Panama – admittedly on quite a large ship. I also sailed from Panama to Auckland across the Pacific. Also around the Caribbean, but that was a cruise so maybe it doesn't count. But in fact neither my experience nor your experience counts that much in that you have failed to consider the crux of my argument, that Egyptian, Greek and to some extent Roman ships tended to hug the coast and avoid the storm season in winter. You just changing the goalposts in fact I've never seen them move quite so quickly. Perhaps you should read some of the other answers around this topic, but I suspect you don't really give a shit. Goodbye troll.

Erica Ward
2/28/2018 06:32:44 pm

How can you talk about sailing in ancient time without mentioning the Phoenicians, the acknowledged masters of the Mediterranean and the great traders and shoulders of antiquity.

"The Egyptians and the people of Byblos evolved in significantly different environments. In Egypt, the Nile was the main traffic artery, and people began building river boats there at a very early time.[xxx] These boats had flat bottoms to avoid being caught on sand bars or rocks in the river and—given the lack of wood in Egypt—were originally made from bundles of reeds tied together. Eventually, when larger riverboats were needed, they used many short boards from the small acacia tree, which were attached together in a pattern that resembled brickwork.[xxxi] For the calm waters of the river, this patchwork of small boards suited their needs very well.

However, when the Egyptians tried to take these boats out on the Mediterranean Sea, the results were far different. The waves of the sea alternately raised and lowered the bow and stern (front and rear) of the boats, over and over. This caused the many small boards to break apart on the sea, as attested by what happened next—preserved for us by etchings in stone which show these boats in clear detail.[xxxii],[xxxiii] In an attempt to keep the boats from breaking apart on the sea, the Egyptians tied large rope cables around the bow of the boat, then ran these taut cables above the deck to the stern, where they were tied around the rear of the ship. In this way, the tendency of the front and rear of the boat to fall down into the trough of each passing wave was offset by the taut ropes which held the front and rear of the boat high.[xxxiv] These cables, tied around the hull of the boat in two places, must have caused considerable drag in the water, making the boats slow and cumbersome. But at least they did not break apart on the waves. Egyptian records show that the Egyptians tried this method of sea travel twice: in 2480 B.C.,[xxxv] and again in 1490 B.C.[xxxvi] In both cases, the boats were used for no more than one or two hundred years before being abandoned. During all the rest of their history, the Egyptian records show foreign boats coming to Egypt, bearing crews from the Levantine coast—as shown by their distinctive beards and embroidered robes. The name which the Egyptians gave to these foreign vessels was “Byblos boats.”[xxxvii]

The people of Byblos emerged under completely different circumstances. They were fishermen on the shore of the Mediterranean Sea. Surrounded by forests of cedar and fir, they used these large trees to allow them to fish in the sea. As shown by Lionel Casson and others, the normal development of boatbuilding in such an environment was to begin by hollowing out part of a large tree trunk and using it as a dugout boat.[xxxviii] To make the boat larger, boards were added to the sides. As the boats became much larger, they retained the large piece of wood at the bottom of the boat’s hull—and called that piece the keel. This large, solid piece of wood prevented the flexing of the boat on the waves. The slightly rounded “V” shape formed by the long boards on each side of the hull also meant the keel was far below the water. This gave the vessel great stability to stay on course in the open sea, regardless of wind or waves coming from the side. This deep-draft design would have been a problem on rivers, but the people of Byblos were not river travelers. They had evolved upon the sea as early as 4500 B.C., and their craft were ideal for sea travel. "
They were the first we know of to sail past Gibraltar. Herodotus claimed they circumnavigate Africa. They controlled the tin trade, which was necessary to make bronze, carrying tin from England to the cultures of the Mediterranean, thou historians argue whether they sailed their themselves or dealt with middlemen. In any case they had contact with Britain well before the advent of Christianity.

BobM
7/31/2017 05:49:03 pm

I wouldn't argue about dominating the Mediterranean. I'm just making the claim that on the whole, Mediterranean ships were not designed for all weathers. Even the late Roman grain fleet, which had some of the biggest ships around at the time tended to avoid the open sea particularly in bad weather. And I would think that the Egyptians at a much earlier time would have done the same. Certainly the Greeks did.

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Bobm
8/1/2017 08:39:27 pm

I suspect you don't really give a shit. Goodbye troll.

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