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Weekly Roundup: More Gunung Padang Claims and Chris Mellon's Confession

3/22/2024

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​After two months of miserable Ancient Aliens episodes on all but one Friday, I felt more than a little relief to receive a bit of time off from the grind. But that doesn’t mean that the outer edges of pseudoscience fell silent. After John Wiley & Sons retracted the infamous Gunung Padang paper claiming the Indonesian site was an Ice Age mega-pyramid, the author of the paper, Danny Hilman Natawidjaja, published on Graham Hancock’s website what he says is the full text of his team’s communications with the team at Wiley over the retraction. Natawidjaja seems to think that doing so vindicates his claim that nefarious forces of Western orthodoxy ae suppressing his superior science, but reading through the correspondence makes plain that Natawdjaja and his team have no real evidence to support their claims, failed to consider alternative explanations, and relied almost entirely on drawing conclusions from a visual inspection of rocks—basically, “looks like, therefore is.” Natawidjaja seeks to reverse the burden of proof, demanding that critics prove that the natural-seeming formations he identifies as prehistoric constructions are not human-built, rather than offering any positive evidence of their artificiality. 
​Meanwhile, in a Gizmodo piece about UFOs this week, Chris Mellon offered one of his bluntest revisionist narratives of how he created the media firestorm in 2017 that put UFOs on the media and Congressional agenda. In the interview, Mellon admits to sneaking UFO videos out of the Pentagon against the rules and claims to have delivered the 2017 New York Times story that started it all to Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal as a complete package, saying they did virtually no work. He even admits to stage-managing a propaganda campaign to legitimize UFO speculations that AARO later concluded, after millions of dollars in wasted spending, were—surprise!—the fantasies of Mellon and his group:
Mellon says that after learning of the extent of UFO sightings by U.S. pilots, he wanted to spread the word about the issue. “I came up with a simple plan to do that, which involved going to the press and going to Congress,” said Mellon. He then relays to me a familiar tale that has made its way into numerous news reports, which is the origin story of how a famous UFO video—the 2004 Nimitz episode—was leaked. According to Mellon, a person met him in the parking lot of the Pentagon and handed him an envelope containing a USB drive. Inside the USB drive were three videos taken by F-18 pilots that showed “real UAP,” as Mellon puts it. Mellon says he then decided to share the videos with the press.
 
The way Mellon explains it, the pivotal New York Times story that is largely credited with helping legitimize UFOs within the broader culture never would have happened without his direct involvement. “This was not investigative journalism,” Mellon tells me. “I handed them the evidence, introduced them to Lue Elizondo, gave them a stack of documents, arranged for them to meet and interview Harry Reid, and made a deal with them. They ran the story, which appeared on December 16 of 2017 on the front page.”
 
Mellon says this was part of a broader plan on his part to spread the word about UFOs and to get Congress to take some sort of action on the matter.
Perhaps telling is that the Gizmodo interview ends with this Mellon analysis about government secrecy: “If you get deep in that world, you do see things differently afterward […] And, if you get really deep into it—and you learn how certain things work—you read the newspapers differently...You realize how different actors are pulling different strings.” That sounds great until you realize that it’s a close paraphrase of a story that Henry Kissinger (I think) used to tell to new diplomats about the impact of access to classified information and its effect on officials’ judgment.* Nothing in UFO world is what it seems.

​
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*  I tried my damnedest to find the book that reported the anecdote to link here, but, never thinking I would use that story again, I hadn’t committed its location to memory when I read it last year. It’s possible that the anecdote belongs to someone else.
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Jim
3/22/2024 11:55:10 am

The old "you can't prove humans didn't do it" ploy. It sounds like they didn't do the "forensics".

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Kent link
3/22/2024 02:20:20 pm

J.M.J. It's hard to know where the civics lesson ends and the self-promotion (Mellon's) begins. Do it make me a bad person if it don't bother me?

As the magician or mentalist has told and will tell us "anyone can be fooled". Kris Meatball meets someone at a bar and chats them up, they find a mutual interest in the X-Files or Alf and in UFOs. They say "Oh, I work in Congr. Soandso's office." They meet for lunch, he picks them up at the office, bang he just had a meeting at a Congressman's office. Slowly he turned, step by step, inch by inch ...

Isn't influencing Congressmen a large part of how the system is supposed to work? Are Congresspeople inherently smarter and more rigorous thinkers than those of you who consider yourself smart? If someone gives me raw numbers, x million, for a TV show I have no idea if 'tis good or not. Everyone can be, nay wants to be fooled. Is what someone selling tickets would say.

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My Ass Would Be In Prison
3/24/2024 02:46:02 pm

"Mellon admits to sneaking UFO videos out of the Pentagon against the rules and claims to have delivered the 2017 New York Times story that started it all to Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal as a complete package, saying they did virtually no work."

Sounds like a confession to me.

Perhaps you should do an article focusing upon the espionage aspect of the UFO movement. The MJ-12 documents for instance. Seems like anyone promoting that is promoting espionage at the very least.

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Kent
3/25/2024 11:37:50 pm

"Sounds like a confession to me."

What part of a factually incorrect representation by a third party of what's likely a lie on the part of a first party sounds like a confession to you? 'Splain it to me Lucy.

I'm really interested in your explication of the espionage connection to the MJ-12 documents because I have the BIG Crayola box, you know, the one with the sharpener? And I'm ready to start churning out documents as soon as you give the go signal, the high sign, the secret handshake, the wink and the nod. Say no more.

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The Rehasher is slippin
3/29/2024 05:32:40 am

Learned the MJ-12 documents were considered espionage from Jason Colavito's blog. I don't recall what else he said about them. Perhaps you could rehash that for us. Unless you've suddenly lost your claimed mastery of the search system.

Kent
3/29/2024 12:25:53 pm

I made no assertion, there is no onus (Latin for "big stone") on me. Seek onus elsewere Onan.

Let's see if I understand the situation:

- I ask for something.
- Someone says "YOU provide it" to me.
- Someone says "You are a bad person for not providing what you just asked for."

Have I laid the situation out correctly? This is borderline asking for wiping. Homie don't play that.

Charles Verrastro
3/24/2024 04:59:34 pm

Kissinger veered from disinterested pragmatism to flamboyant mockery of diplomacy. But one of my favorite quotes ring true for today:
"Before the Freedom of Information Act, I used to say at meetings "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." [...] But since the Freedom of Information Act, I'm afraid to say things like that."
Henry A. Kissinger

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Jeff Bishop link
3/25/2024 09:25:05 am


Sooooo........

We live in a cultural, informational, economic and political environment where capatalistic opportunists such as (Mark Zuckerfuck) can make trillions on a public platform that is only interested in making capital at the expense of informational accuracey and has opened Pandora's Box for every half educated dishonest idiot seeking a dollar, eagerly consumed by 1/4 educated idiots more than willing to spread the lies.

And fools actually think social dis-information media is another "wonder" and yet another crowing achievment of the currently most domiant (VIRUS) that ever sprang to existence on this spinning quasi round ball of "star-stuff".

Oh did I mention a majority of the species walks around in a daze, concerned about supernatural beings that don't, nor never have, existed in the minds of the cretins that are mindlessly destroying the very habitat they exist on?

Mankind - The "height" of evolution.

Think Too the Stars, Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Chris Mellon
and Marjorie Taylor Green.

No doubt humans are the pinnacle.

See you all in hell.



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An Over-Educated Grunt
3/27/2024 10:53:27 am

To quote Aleister Crowley, "I thought I had a most morbid imagination, as good as any man's, but it seems I have not. I cannot form the slightest idea what you can possibly mean."

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Kent
3/30/2024 03:00:49 pm

I find MTG oddly hot and she's got form (British term for "check out the history"). I would do the begollywoggles out of that thang. In a most respectful manner. I would yield the heck out of my time. Should it disturb Mrs. Grundy, bonus! Wyld Stallyns!

Certainly, worrying (fantasizing) about social media is a super better terrific use of one's time. Not! And the requisite monkeys fly out of the requisite butt.

Hidewitchhidethegoodfolkscometoburnthee
theirkeenenjoymenthidbehindagothicmaskofduty.

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