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West Virginia Archaeologists Blast "Appalachian Magazine" for Reviving Claims about Irish Monks in Ancient America

1/23/2019

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​On Monday, the Council for West Virginia Archaeology posted an open letter that they wrote to the editor of Appalachian Magazine, taking issue with that publication’s December article attributing some Native American petroglyphs in the state to Irish monks. The article, posted on December 21, asked whether Celts preceded Columbus to the Americas. Frankly, as a bit of recycled garbage culled from 1980s press clippings, I would never have taken notice of it were it not for the Council’s letter. Sadly, there are simply too many similar pieces recycling twentieth century pseudohistory to keep track of.
​While the Appalachian piece was filed under a “Legends and Tall Tales” subject heading, and the anonymous article author admits that the story’s evidence is “shaky” and basically a “conspiracy theory,” the content of the piece clearly implied readers were meant to take it seriously:
There is a modern theory which states that ancient Irish missionaries appeared in the New World roughly a millennium after the earthly life Christ and can trace its unusual roots to a discovery made in the coalfields of Southern West Virginia during the early-1980s.
​Clearly, Appalachian has not done its homework. The claim that Irish monks visited the Americas in the Middle Ages is centuries old. Colonial Americans debated whether Native American mounds were the work of Irish missionaries, and the French historian Eugène Beauvois wrote a large number of papers in the late 1800s advocating the position that the Irish bequeathed civilization to Native Americans, following, he believed, Norse Vikings and preceding French Knights Templar.
 
The heart of the article, however, revolves around our old friend Ogham, the ancient Irish writing system that conveniently resembles random scratches and lines. Some familiar characters show up in the story of the discovery of some petroglyphs in Dingess, West Virginia in the 1980s:
 
The slabs of rock, which were found on property owned by the Marrowbone Development Corporation, immediately became the source of study for scholars from around the world, as the markings were said to resemble ancient Irish letters known as Celtic Ogham. We pick up the story in October 1988 when the Irish Embassy, the Irish secretary of cultural affairs, and archaeologist Robert Pyle arrived to examine the rock carvings:
​Speaking to members of the media, Pyle was quoted as having said, “They’re really unique. They have Christian religious symbols that are identifiable, many of them identifiable were recorded very early… The markings appear to be from around as early as the eighth century to the 12th century A.D.”
 
The veteran archaeologist said that he believed the markings were made by early Irish missionaries who followed major trails through the mountains, stating, “It’s really a tremendous discovery.”
 
Pyle is not alone in his belief that the Irish were roaming the hills along the Tug Valley centuries prior to Columbus’ voyage.
 
Dr. Barry Fell, a biologist who has studied numerous archaeological sites and ancient languages, contended that ancient West Virginia Petroglyphs were indeed written in the ancient Irish language known as Ogham.
 
Translating rock markings found in neighboring Wyoming County, West Virginia, Dr. Fell concluded that the ancient message carved into the rocks read: “At the time of sunrise, a ray grazes the notch on the left side on Christmas Day, the first season of the year, the season of the blessed advent of the savior Lord Christ. Behold he is born of Mary, a woman.”
​Appalachian magazine said that the evidence doesn’t yet warrant a “burning” of history textbooks (how thoughtful!) but raised important questions about just when white people colonized West Virginia. I suppose that looking for an excuse to burn textbooks is the kind of forward-thinking that has led West Virginia to its 49th-place ranking in the WalletHub 2018 survey of the most educated states in America.
​The Council for West Virginia Archaeology took issue with the article and reminded the publication that it plays an important role in public education in a state with the country’s lowest rate of college educated adults, with just 20% holding a bachelor’s degree or higher.
 
The Council also reminded Appalachian magazine that Robert Pyle was not an archaeologist and should not be described as such, and the Council further explained that Pyle’s hypotheses were challenged and refuted by West Virginia archaeologists in a series of academic journal articles in the 1980s. These articles were all posted to the Council’s website more than 15 years ago and are freely accessible.
 
The Council wrote that it was disappointing to see old claims from the 1980s recycled without any recent research, comment from modern archaeologists, or consideration for the cultural impact of appropriating Native petroglyphs for a Eurocentric narrative:
Your article does not take into account any of the archaeological research that has been done since then, such as a strong movement toward recognizing petroglyphs, cairns, and other rock features as being Native American in origin and worthy of respect as sacred ceremonial landscapes…  In summary, we believe that the lack of medieval Irish artifacts and the questionable validity of the “ogham” translations prevent Robert Pyle’s ideas from having scholarly merit. We also believe that attributing Native American sites to Europeans has problematic imperialist, or even racist, undertones and that these ideas undermine the work of legitimate archaeologists.
​It was nice to see archaeologists firing back, but it appears that the open letter appeared only on the Council’s Facebook page and in private circulation among Council members. (A Google search returns no results for the letter’s text.) This won’t do anything to change the minds of readers of Appalachian magazine, or to affect the editor of said magazine, unless and until objections appear in more prominent places, including other magazines, newspapers, local broadcast media, and other places where actual members of the public will encounter them. Otherwise, such letters will only be read by people who already agree with them.
51 Comments
William Fitzgerald
1/23/2019 10:02:25 am

Claims of New World discovery: Irish, Chinese, Phoenician, Africans, paleolithic Europeans, Templars, lost Israelites, Giants...Am I missing a someone? From the arrival of the original Native Americans to Columbus there is only one confirmed discovery: 11th Century Vikings. But, this discovery and exploration was in all likelihood short-lived and fleeting.

This doesn't mean there are no other viable candidates for pre-Colombian voyages to the New World. But, there needs to be proof; not half-baked speculation based on at best legends, at worst hoaxes, or at very-worst simply making stuff up. Of course the L'Anse aux Meadows site was found by using Icelandic Sagas, but proof required making archaeological finds.

Besides the Vikings there are a few viable candidates: it is probable that more recent migrations occurred across the Bering Strait than what occurred before the end of the last ice age, the people who became the modern Inuit for example. Polynesian contact with South America also seems probable (if for no other reason than it seems unlikely that Polynesian voyagers would have discovered just about every inhabitable island in the Pacific but miss a whole continent). But, I digress even these likely contenders need proof. Nevertheless, some of the less likely to improvable contenders.

And Jason OMG, gratuitously calling out West Virginia's education ranking!? And using WalletHub!? Whatever that is exactly...but, thanks for citing. Unfortunately, 49th is probably the worst spot to be in. At 49th for all intents and purposes, you may as well be last, but in actuality you can still go down. BYT, unsurprisingly Mississippi is dead last, but at least they have the Tamale Trail, the Delta, Gulfport and they are within spitting distance of 48th on the list: Louisiana! Which is one of the friendliest and delicious places in the world. Mississippi you can only go up from here...until we add the 51st state. And if anyone is wondering New York is in 12th place right behind New Jersey.

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AM I MISSING SOMEONE?
1/23/2019 12:34:53 pm

Madoc the Welshman discovered America
Before Scotsman Prince Henry Sinclair

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American cool "Disco" Dan
1/23/2019 12:40:25 pm

We landed a man on the Moon before Henry Sinclair discovered America.

Jim
1/23/2019 02:07:46 pm

Heck,,, according to Wolters buddy, Alan Butler, time travelers from the future built the moon before Henry Sinclair discovered America.

Domino's Pizza Guy
1/23/2019 04:25:24 pm

The moon is just a picture crossing the domed civilization of Atlantis. It's actually 24 hours of daylight here. If we didn't have a dome to darken the sky, we would never get any sleep.

Not healthy!

RulerRa
1/27/2019 09:57:09 am

Interesting!

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ATLANTIS RISING
1/23/2019 01:05:23 pm

Oak Island, Roswell, plus Andy Collins about Denisovan DNA and the Thunder People. "In 2010 the existence of a previously unknown archaic human population was discovered following the DNA sequencing of a finger bone over 41,000 years old. It had been found two years earlier in the Denisova Cave, a Stone Age occupational site located in the Altai Mountains of southern Siberia. Here also three molars, two of enormous size, were retrieved. These too were found to belong to this same group of archaic humans, who are today known as the Denisovans after their place of discovery."


Forthcoming March/April 2019 edition

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Joe Scales
1/23/2019 01:20:50 pm

I'm out at "Oak Island"...

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Pizza Hut Guy
1/23/2019 04:27:35 pm

Did you find a pit to take a piss in?

American Cool "Disco" Dan
1/23/2019 04:38:17 pm

Next time you go to the beach, PHG, reflect on the fact that the water you're frolicking in is where fish and aquatic mammals piss, poop, and sperm. And I count myself as an aquatic mammal, so enjoy!

pizza hut guy
1/23/2019 04:47:15 pm

I'll never go to the beach again... ate too many pizzas.

But, I do drink the swill every time I turn on the tap. Even though it has been cleansed a bit.

I always wonder how many times the water I drink has left the orifice of your desires. It could be in the Zillions.

Crash55
1/23/2019 01:08:41 pm

The recently released video game Fallout 76 is set in West Virginia and has the Mothman and other such things in it. I wonder if they will include Irish monks.

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Graham
1/24/2019 07:48:27 am

No idea, but the upcoming Clive Cussler extravaganza has a title ('Celtic Empire') that leads me to think that Barry Fells ideas are going to play an important part in the plot.

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Shane Sullivan
1/23/2019 01:29:08 pm

Needless to say, and I realize this is probably the least important thing wrong with the Appalachian article, Ogham is a script, not a language.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
1/23/2019 03:06:46 pm

And if Fell's translation is correct, which of course it's not, for all the usual reasons: not Ogham, Fell doesn't know whatever language it's supposed to be, it would be the most elaborate Ogham inscription ever.

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bear claw
1/23/2019 05:21:43 pm

Mak-nune, chata chata!

Hot Tamale Trail

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Mike Morgan
1/23/2019 03:17:01 pm

Appalachian Magazine must really like this story, not to mention having a short memory. The Dec. 21, 2018 article linked above, is a an almost verbatim recycling of their "Did the Irish Explore America in 1100 AD?" from only 2 months earlier, Sept. 15, 2018, @ http://appalachianmagazine.com/2018/09/15/did-the-irish-explore-america-in-1100-ad/ which itself is again, an almost verbatim recycling of their Oct. 5, 2014, "EVIDENCE: The Irish Found West Virginia Before Columbus Found America" @ http://appalachianmagazine.com/2014/10/05/evidence-the-irish-found-west-virginia-before-columbus-found-america/

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BEAR CLAW
1/23/2019 04:13:27 pm

Islamic Portage to Mesoamerica (Gold Coast-Western Macedonia) - Atlantic crossing from Cape Verde

Gypsy Harems/Nephilum - 1200 BC
Alexander's Persian Kin - 323 BC
Phoenicians - 261 BC
Nero's burned population - 64 AD
Kingdom of Naples - 79 AD

IRISH MISSIONARIES - 530 AD

North African Moors - 791 AD
Great Schism, church splits - 1054 AD
Khan's and Monks - 1231 AD
Mandingo warriors - 1324 AD
Sunni Ali - 1468 AD
Ahmad Baba - 1591 AD

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BEAR CLAW
1/23/2019 04:18:08 pm

Isle of the Blessed - Homer 850 BC (also know as Thai Bear River)

Estimated travel 10,000 furlongs (2500 miles by Titan Ships)

300 men (Tiber River) - 133 BC

BEAR CLAW
1/23/2019 04:19:02 pm

Trinidad - also known as Easter Island

BEAR CLAW
1/23/2019 04:20:12 pm

Ivan of Russia - 1581 AD

BEAR CLAW
1/23/2019 04:22:35 pm

Dallas Stars to the North Star Trail

Atlantis Rising - Academics Falling

Papa John's Pizza Guy
1/23/2019 04:36:18 pm

Great Schism - Church splits into Republicans & Democrats

When the American public gets fat, Democrats win
When the American public can't tie their shoelaces, Republicans win

American Cool "Disco" Dan
1/23/2019 04:41:02 pm

Help me out here, I'm losing track. Where did you say you're institutionalized?

He said
1/23/2019 04:51:10 pm

Indus Colony Rehabilitation Center III... !!!!!!!!!

Roxana
1/23/2019 03:58:46 pm

Dr. Barry Fell, a biologist who has studied numerous archaeological sites and ancient languages, contended that ancient West Virginia Petroglyphs were indeed written in the ancient Irish language known as Ogham.

A biologist, posing as an expert on ancient languages and archaeology?

Genuine archaeological sites generally contain more than isolated inscribed stones.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
1/23/2019 04:57:45 pm

Dr. Fell and Zecharia Sitchin, the Azeri Bamboozler, ran the same con: pretend to translate languages in which you're not competent and hope nobody checks.

Always remember and never forget that we were informed by Priceless Defender aka Accumulated Wisdom aka Anthony Warren that Sitchin coined the term "monotheistic dualism".

Like Fell and Sitchin he was hoping nobody checked. It was trivial to establish that Warren's statement was just one of his fucked up made-up stories.

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/scott-wolter-masonic-expert-says-sinclair-journals-not-consistent-with-the-latin-and-english-of-their-alleged-time-period

"PRICELESS DEFENDER
12/5/2018 11:44:27 am
Jim,

After reading Mr. Colavito's review of his Akhenaten book, I have completely changed my mind . I'll give just three reasons.

1. The double-headed eagle is a symbol for Ninurta, the son of Enlil. This symbol predates the Hittites.

2. The idea of monotheistic dualism can be traced to Zecharia Sitchin. He literally coined the term."

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dualism
1/23/2019 05:07:13 pm

Bible - there were two brothers

One became God, one became the Devil

It's better to rule in Hell, than serve in Heaven

bla, bla, bla... something new please

Machala
1/23/2019 04:57:08 pm

As someone who is 50% Northern Irish, 25% American Yankee, and 25% Native American (Hinono'eino from Colorado), and an experienced ex-husband of a West-by-God (smile when you say it) Virginian, and having spent last night in a Holiday Inn, I am as qualified as the illustrious Robert Pyle to translate those WVA petroglyphs.

They say: " St. Brendan was right. There's not a fucking thing here! "

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Colorado guy
1/23/2019 05:15:01 pm

I went to Colorado once. Talked to a guy of a very expensive fashion shop.

He said God was burned there while on a canoeing trip.

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An Anonymous Nerd
1/23/2019 07:33:45 pm

This magazine sounds awful.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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titus pullo
1/23/2019 09:19:38 pm

Where are the artifacts, bodies, structures, and artwork of all these pre Columbians who colonized America? Explorers, invaders, or just folks migrating all leave their mark in every place except the Americas I guess. Roman coins in Vietnam..but in NA....you get a few scratches on a rock or a "mystery structure of some rocks" and besides the Vikings in NF no evidence of any preColumbian visit.

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bear claw
1/23/2019 10:01:12 pm

Why do you keep saying such stupid s#*t?

The pyramids are the most dominating evidence of any culture ever conceived in world history. The people who were created within that environment aged into the Vikings. It's fact, and the only fact anyone can truly say about anything that happened so long ago.

If you have eyes, you can see the fact.

The Vikings hadn't invented plastic yet, so there wasn't any garbage. There are animal bones everywhere. Tools are found wherever they dug underground caverns. There is more evidence that the Vikings were here than any other act in history.

What kind of mystical soup created such a lame brain as the one you are carrying around.

They have dug up Viking keels all over the Atlantic coast. Proof positive. And then you say some dumb ass shit like there is no evidence. What are you smoking?

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
1/23/2019 11:24:49 pm

Good Lord, you do talk a lot of codswollop. Just in case you think you're doing performance art you're not. You're a really bad poster. I imagine your parents lay awake at night tortured by regret for not just drowning you and making up a story.

Joe Scales
1/24/2019 12:49:49 pm

Oh good. This brings up Wolter's take on why his roving, rock carving, tower building Templars left no archaeological evidence of their incursions.

1) They practiced "extreme cleanliness".
2) They were in fear of pursuit by the Catholic Church and accordingly left no trace of their multiple encampments, work projects and getting chummy with the natives.

I kid you not. These are his positions. Because, well... rocks don't lie.

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bear claw
1/24/2019 03:52:49 pm

I went camping once. I scratched my & my love's initials into a tree. Now 700 years later, I cannot find my devotion left for posterity. Did someone take my tree? Good thing I left the rock!

American cool "Disco" Dan
1/24/2019 03:56:10 pm

One thing our Scott doesn't spell out is that the Templars who were also ancient Egyptians and Freemasons were alerted by their time-travel technology to the efforts of the Smithsonian so they knew EXACTLY how to hide from archaeologists.

bear claw
1/24/2019 04:00:19 pm

The fracking ground beneath us? Earthquake!

American Cool "Disco" Dan
1/24/2019 04:29:12 pm

My feeling is that if Steven Seagal is pro-Indian then I'm anti-Indian.

bear claw
1/24/2019 04:37:03 pm

I personally am pro-people.

not religious zombies
not over emotional monkeys
not chest pounding apes
not reclusive mad scientists bent on destroying life

People... healthy, walking tall, independent, intelligent, willing to do the right thing

And with that, I bid you adieu.

American cool "Disco" Dan
1/24/2019 05:25:30 pm

So what do you think? I say back within 24 hours. Usually a safe bet.

Joe Zias
1/27/2019 02:31:14 pm

I once listened to a presentation by an amatuer arch. regarding prehistoric rock carvings on basaltic rock in the Syrian Golant hts. Presenter showed statistical inf., slides all the rest. Only problem was that the marking were from modern day plowing in which the metal plows were leaving lines on the bedrock which was close to the surface.

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Doc Rock
1/27/2019 03:49:14 pm

AKA, John Deere Incised.

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Auxiliary Cool "Disco" Dan
1/28/2019 12:12:26 am

AKA "This is so clever! The waitress will love it! Today's the day!"

Doc Rock
1/28/2019 01:16:54 pm

Did I mention that she is a Staff Sergeant in the Army Reserve?

Apocryphal Cool "Disco" Dan
1/28/2019 02:21:55 pm

Do I need to mention that I give precisely zero fucks? How silly is it that you think the qualifications of a waitress that neither I nor any of the rest of us will ever meet but you think you're impressing with your internet posts are of any interest to anyone?

You've brought it back...

Sad.

Doc Rock
1/28/2019 02:49:26 pm

Uh, if you don't care then why did you bring it up. I posted a joke about plow marked stones, you were the one that started talking about a waitress. Don't think that I have ever seen someone who so consistently will claim that they don't care about what someone else posted, but then writes 50 word essays which clearly indicates that they do.

Ya just ain't all that bright, bouki.

And the meltdown involving homophobic remarks, pedophilia, or something else highly inappropriate starts in 3,2,1..........


Arbitrary Cool "Disco" Dan
1/28/2019 03:13:51 pm

"DOC ROCK
1/28/2019 01:16:54 pm
Did I mention that she is a Staff Sergeant in the Army Reserve?"

Still a zero on the Give-A-Fuck Meter for those keeping score at home. And I suspect a zero on the Get-A-Fuck meter for our Cap'n.

That's what's called "borrowed valor". It's like someone saying "my father and my uncles fought in WWII so I'm an expert."

You've already posted about the waitress and it's clear that you think you have a (delusional) shot. I didn't bring her up, you did.

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/crash-and-burn-this-weeks-ufo-tv-disappoints-in-the-ratings

Sorry to disappoint, but I choose not to address your fetishes on this occasion. You are relegated to Lonely Jacking.

Doc Rock
1/28/2019 03:56:44 pm

Wow, up to about 250 words across two posts to demonstrate how little he cares about a topic that he borrowed from another thread to raise in this particular thread. Come on Bouki, we know you are good for another hundred or so words. Can you crack the 500 word barrier?

While you work on that I will be doing a little pre-happy hour, happy hour. Might be back here to see if your rant broke the 500 word barrier but probably not.

You might follow the model of your co-chair of the kiddie table. At least he is a bit selective in terms of which hill he chooses to die on. Kind of spread the humiliation out a little more thinly.

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Accountable Cool "Disco" Dan
1/28/2019 04:21:24 pm

Just to be clear, what I said was I don't give a fuck that your imaginary waitress is in your mind a Staff Sergeant in the Army Reserve. Because I'm a normal person, not a leather sniffer.

But thanks for your long-winded reply.

Sad.

Imaginary Waitress: "Y'know, now that you've shown me this you do seem kind of pathetic."

Once again I will not indulge your fetishes.

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Joe Scales
1/28/2019 05:11:27 pm

You mean selective in how I choose to hand you your ass Professor Bad Faith; time and time again. The only thing that dies here are your attempts at any sort of humor whatsoever. Just can it, you old troll. At least Cuz's bitterness is funny, whereas yours is simply downright pathetic. Must suck to be so unloved.

And sorry, but you'll never be one of the cool kids. Not then. Not now. Not ever.

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