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Would Believing in Ancient Aliens Impact Modern Religions?

11/22/2012

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Ancient Aliens pundit Giorgio Tsoukalos was asked on Twitter yesterday whether he believes in God, to which he replied that he does, but not the God of Christianity. He further clarified his position, asserting that the ancient astronaut hypothesis, which he calls the “ancient astronaut theory” or AAT, makes no claims on contemporary religion:

Of course NOT. The AAT has NOTHING to do with modern-day worship. Gods do NOT exist! #misunderstoodtechnology RT @2wyckedcarl the Engineers?

— Giorgio A. Tsoukalos (@Tsoukalos) November 22, 2012
This appears to derive from his mentor Erich von Däniken’s stated position, which is that God exists but that the true God is that of Jesus, not the Old Testament or other ancient scriptures, which mistakenly describe extraterrestrials. (Of course von Däniken originally tried to make Jesus an alien, too, until his publisher convinced him to think better of offending his readers.)

But I take issue with the claim that the ancient astronaut hypothesis has “nothing” to do with “modern-day worship.” Consider the following:

  • Ancient astronaut writers assert that the appearances of God in the Hebrew Bible are extraterrestrial interventions. Thus, the “pillar of cloud” seen by Moses was an alien spaceship, as was the appearance of the Lord before Ezekiel. According to multiple alternative writers, the Ark of the Covenant was an ET communications device and weapon. Von Däniken and others assert that the God who created Adam and Eve in the Garden was an alien using genetic engineering techniques. Unless I am seriously mistaken, all of these claims would seriously affect the “modern-day worship” of Judaism and Christianity, as well as, to a lesser extent, Islam.
  • Ancient astronaut writers assert that the Hindu gods were extraterrestrial beings who flew in spaceships and used nuclear weapons on hapless humans. While they may not want to admit this, there are more than one billion Hindus engaged in the “modern-day worship” of these beings.
  • Ancient astronaut writers assert that Ahura Mazda of the Zoroastrians is an extraterrestrial who flew around Iran in a winged aircraft. There are still 150,000 Zoroastrians who worship this “alien” and his “airplane” today.
  • Several modern cults are founded on the ancient astronaut hypothesis, including Raëlianism, which explicitly worships extraterrestrials as the God(s) of the Bible.

This does not count the polytheistic pantheons of native peoples worldwide whose mythologies have been strip-mined for ancient astronaut books and Ancient Aliens. Nevertheless, such peoples as the Australian aborigines, the Polynesians, and Native Americans continue to exist, and many continue to worship their traditional gods. Most directly relevant: The Dogon people, whose myths were fabricated into the Sirius Mystery about space frogs from Sirius, still exist, still engage in traditional religion, and therefore are impacted directly by claims that their faith is a fraud born of aliens in disguise.

Giorgio Tsoukalos may want us to think that the ancient astronaut hypothesis is concerned only with the dead and dormant mythologies of vanished peoples and is therefore nothing but impact-free, fun speculation, but as put forward by Tsoukalos, von Däniken, and others, it makes clear and direct claims about the identity of beings worshiped by “modern-day” peoples. It is therefore not “fun” but a direct challenge the spiritual beliefs of, by my count, at least three billion of earth’s seven billion people…though I may be undercounting somewhat. He may believe that all gods but his are false, but the ancient astronaut hypothesis certainly has something to say about those gods, and thus their "modern-day worship."

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John J. McKay link
11/22/2012 05:50:45 am

That's an aspect of this that I never really though about.

I think there are probably closer to five billion potential offendees among the organized religions: 2 billion Christians, 1.5 B Muslims, 1 B Hindus, and 100 M Jews, Sikhs, B'hais, Zoroastrians, Rastas, etc. The half billion or so adherents of unorganized, traditional religions balance out the most secular among the big religions.

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Dave Lowe
11/23/2012 06:47:21 am

Some interesting insight into potential repercussions of truly believing AAT as dogma. I wonder what percentage of AAT believers also have Christian (or other!) beliefs that are truly impacted by the theories of AAT, and they simply didn't identify the polar opposite beliefs of AAT and their religious beliefes.

As an aside, are there any AAT works that you feel are worth at the very least thinking about, or are they all pretty much cut from the same fabric?

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Jason Colavito link
11/23/2012 06:59:30 am

Those are two great questions. I'd venture that most ancient astronaut believers are also religious. Although I have no way of knowing this, I can't imagine that the 2 million who watch Ancient Aliens (of whom only a fraction are true believers) are also all among America's atheists. I think it's an important reason that Ancient Aliens and ancient astronaut books shy away from attributing Christianity to aliens. The closest most come is the occasional suggestion that the Star of Bethlehem was a UFO.

I wish I could say there was a good ancient astronaut book. One could certainly be written. I know this because (a) the idea isn't impossible, and (b) I did it myself, rigorously but not seriously, in the forthcoming Cthulhu in World Mythology, which puts to shame all of the "research" of the ancient astronaut writers without ever making any pretence of truth.

The closest to good ancient astronaut writers come? The Sirius Mystery, which uses research and reason to lead from a false fact to a false conclusion; Hamlet's Mill, which is provocative but far exceeds the evidence; and In Search of Ancient Mysteries, which is more coherent than von Daniken but also relies on deception and misinformation. Morning of the Magicians would probably also make the list for its sheer bulk and breadth, though again its arguments are all derived from flawed secondhand research.

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Ginny
4/13/2013 08:38:57 am

I cannot speak for all, but as someone who follows a Pagan Spiritual path, legends of "star people" are well known and accepted. Just as there is little evidence of our Pagan faith left in Western Europe, (thank you Christian "saviors" for destroying most of our legacy and history) I would certainly believe that they would do the same for any evidence or relics which may have been left from "Star People". The reality is, believing in "Star People" debunks the "big 3" religions, Truly, if any sound, irrefutable proof of aliens, in any time period, would throw a major wrench into most organized religion. There are things that you can prove, and things you know, there are things you believe but cannot prove, all religions fall into this category.

I suppose since I follow a non-traditional path (for the 21st century it's non-traditional, but it wasn't always) I am a little more open to speculative ideas and less inclined to judge to harshly ideas that are a bit left of center. One thing is certain, year after year science brings to life things that 50 years ago were only seen in science fiction movies. There is a saying which many pagans subscribe to "if you can see it, you can make it happen". So I don't ever say that anything is impossible. We are close to an invisability cloak, we already have "communicators" like was seen on the original Star Trek, and indeed it was the inspiration behind the development of the cell phone.

Kept a HEALTHY amount of skepticism, but also keep an open mind. And realize that not everyone believes the same way, or the same things. Our differences are what make this planet interesting. Letting someone cause such an obsessive behavior (over 60 posts on Giorgio Tsoukalos was bit shocking to me!) is not healthy. Live and let live and let it go. And just realize that there are all kinds of people who believe in many, many different things, and it's OK to do that as long as you are not harming anyone.

Peace

Maura Wickham
4/26/2017 02:07:13 am

I recently watched a documentary about Transhumanism and
had always watched Ancient Aliens, which lead me to google if AAT proponents are anti religious so I read your post. To your knowledge are there any Christians or other religious groups that believe God created Aliens as another lifeform? I'm Christian and think it's narrow minded to think we are God's only creation , some groups think aliens are fallen Angels but I think God created both and was curious if others don't believe that when& if there is ever a disclosure that it wouldn't end religion as we know it today.

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