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Peter Levenda Attacks "Ancient Aliens" in "Rolling Stone" without Actually Watching "Ancient Aliens"

4/11/2017

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​Last week I complained that I was getting tired of material that pretended to be new but was really recycled. It happened again this week. The Daily Mail breathlessly reported that a YouTube channel called SecureTeam10 posted a “new” video about the so-called Roswell Rock, which you will remember from its appearance on Ancient Aliens and In Search of Aliens several years ago. The video turns out to be mostly a summary of the Ancient Aliens and In Search of Aliens episodes, with worse visuals and worse voice over. The video doesn’t bother to even add new claims to those of the earlier shows.
​The fact that the Daily Mail even noticed that Tsoukalos had previously done a show on the stone but didn’t actually watch it to see what was lifted from it is rather depressing, not least because the Mail happily lifted from it, too, for their article.
 
This sort of daisy chain of repetition and ignorance is annoying when it comes from amateurs and click-bait journalists, but it is downright obnoxious coming from so-called professionals in the field of ufology and ancient astronautics. Tom DeLonge and Peter Levenda decided to opine on the subject again to promote their book Sekret Machines: Gods, this time in Rolling Stone, and they repeated their own ignorance for a mass audience, recycling a debunked assertion that they have an approach to ancient astronautics ignored by Ancient Aliens​.
 
Now, to start with, I am annoyed that Rolling Stone writer Elisabeth Garber-Paul purposely conflated the scientific conclusion that extraterrestrial life is likely on other planets with the fringe claim that said life likely or even definitely arrived here on the Earth, something that seems statistically improbable given the size of the universe. It’s kind of important to note the distinction between the probability that extraterrestrial life exists and the probability that it visited the Earth in historic times.
 
Anyway, Levenda continued his ignorant claim that he and DeLonge are forging new ground untrammeled by the ancient astronaut theorists of Ancient Aliens:
But, as the authors point out, they're not claiming that everything you've seen on shows like Ancient Aliens is real. "Humans are responsible for building the pyramids, for instance," says Levanda. "I think we can agree on that. But what was the impetus behind it? What we're saying is the initial contact is what prompted all this. Not that there were aliens out there telling us how to build pyramids. I think that just devalues the entire conversation, and we're trying to get beyond that."
​Yes, Rolling Stone spelled Levenda’s name wrong.
 
The ancient astronaut theorists of Ancient Aliens haven’t claimed aliens built the pyramids, and even Erich von Däniken stopped short of saying it in Chariots of the Gods. Take, for example, Giorgio Tsoukalos’s infamous 2011 tweet, the one that launched me on the path of translating medieval Arab pyramid legends: “Repeat after me: The pyramids were NOT built by aliens. According to ancient Egyptian texts, the pyramids were built by humans WITH THE ASSISTANCE of the ‘Guardians of the Sky,’ or the ‘Teachers from Heaven,’ the ‘gods,’ who descended from the sky in ‘flying barges’... (If you're wondering what ‘texts’ I’m referring to, check out the AL-KHITAT by Al-Maqrizi.).”
 
So how does Levenda’s methodology differ from Tsoukalos’s? He does not have aliens coming quite as often, I guess, and he also prefers to use Aztec examples rather than Egyptian:
"Religions around the world consistently say that beings from the heavens came down and taught us this or gave us that," says Levanda. "In Gods we go into the nuance of this, from Aztec blood sacrifices to various creation epics that say we were created as servants to some other race of beings." For this volume, they went back and looked at original texts from various civilizations to see what information they could glean. "We don't create myths out of whole cloth," says Levanda. "Something happens and we create a myth around it. We're talking about events that are being described by people using the vocabulary they had."
​This just makes me angry because Levenda is pretending as though he has a whole new approach that those cretins on the History Channel never considered, and yet there he is saying exactly what they have said, year in and year out, decade after decade, with the only real difference being how much time he allots between contact and building construction.
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​And just for kicks: Reddit users have been discussing whether this man who appeared in an OTO occult ritual as a member of the OTO in a 2013 episode of Secrets of Secret Societies ​that aired on Discovery and later AHC is in fact Peter Levenda, who claims not to be an occultist. The resemblance is uncanny. While I can’t say whether he is or isn’t the man in the video, it would hardly surprise me if he is, since he is also the man who swears he is not Simon, the author of the Necronomicon, but is happy to have HarperCollins warrant and vouchsafe in a legal document to the federal government that he is “Peter Levenda, whose pseudonym is Simon.” Surely, if he is not Simon, he must be thoroughly horrified to know that his publishers at HarperCollins lied to the federal government on his behalf and will forthwith correct the legal paperwork.
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Only Me
4/11/2017 08:55:36 am

"Last week I complained that I was getting tired of material that pretended to be new but was really recycled. It happened again this week."

Yeah, Steve StC decided to visit this blog again. Bazinga!

Anyway, it's really ironic Levenda would criticize Ancient Aliens while using the same material...unless he *knows* that's exactly what he's doing and he's counting on the same core fans to buy into his and DeLonge's "unique" approach.

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SteveStC
4/11/2017 09:15:06 pm

Let’s have some fun changing a few words in your headline, shall we?

Only Me and Other Slobbering Acolytes Attack "The Templar Mission to Oak Island and Beyond" at “The Angry Xenoarchaeologist’s Blog” without Actually Reading "The Templar Mission to Oak Island and Beyond"

Okay acolytes, pile on.

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Kathleen
4/11/2017 09:32:20 pm

Hey everyone! Let's describe our keyboards in graphic detail.

BigNick
4/11/2017 09:36:29 pm

SteveSTD- I asked you a question a few days ago that you have failed to answer because you are to busy being a douche. Perhaps you could put the bottle down and pull your head of your ass and answer the question now-

If Mr Brody or Mr stc could answer a question- the image of the drawing of the disc map thing shows a crude outline of north and south America. Yet it shows Europe as a blob in the upper right hand corner. Why would they not accurately depict the European coast on a navigational tool?


SteveStC
4/11/2017 09:39:07 pm

Hey everyone! Let's all try to be clever like KATHLEEN and irrelevant like AMERICANEGRO.

BTW, what's up with the all cap fakes names among the slobbering acolytes?

Only Me
4/11/2017 09:44:00 pm

Steve, allow me to now critique your *comment*.

You managed to hit the "acolyte" label, but you didn't get in the rest of your limited repertoire of oft-repeated "criticisms". I don't see: hate blog/blogger, sweaty keyboard, crumbs, lying, sources, spelling or general issues with jealousy because manliness/lack thereof. There are no excuses for this amount of laziness. You've recycled these weaksauce "criticisms" in all previous visits. Are you beginning to burn out?

See, Steve? I critiqued the substance of your comment, just like Jason did to Zena's book. By the way, how do you continue to justify your attacks against Jason's review when Pulitzer is claiming Wolter will be doing VETTING AND CORRECTION, in 20 parts, on the very material *in the book* Jason reviewed?

Double standard! Yay!

SteveStC
4/11/2017 09:46:44 pm

Hey SMALLDICK (yet another all cap fake name),

You seem to be trying to point a hate comment at someone named SteveSTD. I don't see anyone here named that. I know many of the slobbering acolytes here have reading comprehension issue, but you seem to have actual reading issues. I say that without actually knowing that you have a reading affliction and I am in no way suggesting you do... just sayin'

SteveStC
4/11/2017 09:50:51 pm

Even you slobbering acolytes have to admit that turning BIGNICK into SMALLDICK is a great abuse of a fake name. I’m quite proud of that one. You’re welcome.

BigNick
4/11/2017 10:07:28 pm

SteveSTD-
I don't put my name in all caps, the website does. SteveSTD is a play on your screen name and the initials for sexually transmitted disease. I knew you were stupid, but was unaware of how stupid you actually were. I apologize and hope this clears up any confusion on your part. Still haven't answered the question, dumbass.

Stevestc
4/11/2017 10:10:17 pm

Hey SMALLDICK,

I'm not here to engage with inane slobbering acolytes like you. I'm here to abuse the participants in this hate fest, you dumbass.

Kathleen
4/11/2017 10:23:33 pm

Oh my! Let's go back topical discussion and save the trashy talk for the playground during recess. Apologies for my participation.

BigNick
4/11/2017 10:29:28 pm

So... am I not a participant in the hatefest? I feel like you haven't read all my comments. I understand. The alcohol must really be affecting your vision by now. Plus, you probably have enough trouble reading when your sober, taint.

Weatherwax
4/11/2017 11:06:13 pm

"I'm not here to engage with inane slobbering acolytes like you. I'm here to abuse the participants in this hate fest, you dumbass."

So now you admit that all your screaming accusations about plagiarism were a made up to justify insulting everyone here because...well, because you're a pathetic sad little boy.

Americanegro
4/12/2017 12:04:17 am

Cap'n Steve. What to do? While on the one hand I'm down with drinking to excess, you seem not to be good at it. Additionally you present as someone who is mentally ill. Did it all fall apart for you when Wolter lost his TV show? Have you had a personal crisis? Is it related to conflict over sharing your orientation? Or do you anticipate having to report in every Halloween from now on? You sound like someone with little or nothing to lose; perhaps you should be taking inventory of available pipes, ropes, and stools.

Clint Knapp
4/12/2017 12:25:24 am

You'll have to forgive Steve, everyone. Centuries of keeping the Bloodline pure and safe have resulted in some rather crippling defects of character in its modern-day scions.

Read (not watch) Preacher, sometime.

Steve, once upon a time you were capable of forming coherent sentences that didn't read as though a disgruntled adolescent got hold of a bottle of rum and a keyboard. Your arguments were no less flawed, but at least you could hold some semblance of a conversation. I would dearly like to see those days return. These lame attempts at trolling only prove one thing: you're not very good at trolling.

SteveStC
4/12/2017 01:36:28 am


Wow, I step away for a couple hours to have a life (something Colavito’s fervent followers might consider sometime) only to return to see that Jason’s pathetic acolytes have indeed piled on, as predicted.

So now, having baited you morons, I’d like to make a few points about the nature of this hate blog and those who “hang out” here so the unsuspecting Google searchers who might inadvertently stumble into this hateful space might be more prepared to understand what goes on here.

First, the sad acolytes who hang out here at a hate blog. I think David Brody hit the nail on the head in a comment he made in yet another Colavito attack on someone who dared publish a book Jason disagreed with -

“Visitors here should understand that. These are not “reviews” in the traditional sense, where shows and books are analyzed and critiqued. This is a site where a particular world view is espoused and defended. Jason is not a “critic”—he is a preacher with a small, rabid group of followers who zealously attack those who view the world differently than they do. They have the right to do so, just as Flat-Earthers and deniers of global warming have the right to defend their viewpoints. But visitors to this site should understand what this blog is: It is a place where contrary views are attacked. Not critiqued. Not analyzed. Not weighed. Attacked.”

But my problem is less with Colavito (someone who repeatedly puts lies in quote marks knowing that his acolytes would never have the intellectual integrity to question or check the sources thereof) but more aimed towards those same acolytes who lurk here waiting to either (a) celebrate the hate with Jason and his fellow haters or (2) pounce gleefully on anyone who dares come in and defend those whom Colavito is smearing. In fact, as I recently pointed out, Colavito also posts comments from sources he is embarrassed to cite because his “primary source” is one of his enemies. Pointing that out to Colavito’s pathetic acolytes only exasperates the slathering acolytes into a hate froth.

Second, note the fake names who showed up to defend (more accurately, deflect and distract from) poor Jason, who always attempts to stay above the fray after posting yet another of hundreds of hateful postings. Let me help you track the hate here by posting a list of those who responded to my comment on a Tuesday night (note: a couple carried on posting pointless gripes past midnight):
Clint Knapp
AmericaNegro
Weatherwax
SmallDick
Kathleen
And, of course, Only Me (whom I have nicknamed Merely You)

Jason has for years attracted a fervent following who rapidly post vapid defenses against even harmless posts like mine earlier tonight. All I did was re-word the title of Jason’s latest hate post, “Only Me and Other Slobbering Acolytes Attack "The Templar Mission to Oak Island and Beyond" at “The Angry Xenoarchaeologist’s Blog” without Actually Reading "The Templar Mission to Oak Island and Beyond.” Even the slathering acolytes have to admit that’s clever.

Even if you hate your enemy, you must occasionally admit when they come up with a funny approach to attack you. I for one find the humor in SMALLDICK’s change of my nic from SteveSTC to SteveSTD - childish, but certainly humorous for a 14 year old with a minimal education. That said, you would think he’d appreciate my humor in changing his fake name from BIGNICK TO SMALLDICK, right? That’s just plain funny !! But when you’re dealing with angry acolytes, nothing is funny. In fact, that leads me to my third and most important point -

There is no humor on this blog except that which disparages others. This is the definition of a hate blog. I challenge those readers of this hate blog to find instances of humor which don’t disparage others. Please report back here.














BigNick
4/12/2017 01:59:41 am

I feel like Smalldick and SteveSTD are equally funny and equally immature. I would accept a third party ruling on that.

Kathleen
4/12/2017 02:07:59 am

Not everyone is in the Eastern Time Zone.

I should not have equated you with Elmer Fudd while you were obviously overwrought.

Goodnight and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Americanegro
4/12/2017 02:26:59 am

"Wow, I step away for a couple hours to have a life (something Colavito’s fervent followers might consider sometime) only to return to see that Jason’s pathetic acolytes have indeed piled on, as predicted."

Wow, you step away to get loaded and you return to see that people without hangovers have taken you to task.

I'm revising my diagnosis: I'm confident that you are bipolar and going through a manic phase right now. That does not conflict with your prodigious alcohol consumption, which is obvious to the casual observer.

"But my problem is less with Colavito (someone who repeatedly puts lies in quote marks knowing that his acolytes would never have the intellectual integrity to question or check the sources thereof)"

1. You were on Jason's case about not giving credit

2. You criticize him for putting quote marks around quotations

3. You think that Jason is somehow responsible for the lies told by people he quotes in quotation marks?

4. How drunk do you have to be for that to make sense to you?

You, Phil Gotsch, and Bob Voyles are the least mentally stable people posting here. Of the three, you are the least mentally stable. And that is saying something. My suggestion to you is voluntary commitment. You need to be evaluated by a mental health professional. Over medicating with alcohol, while tasty, is not working for you.

Only Me
4/12/2017 02:34:01 am

My, my! A wall of text to pick through. Let's see:

labels- check
hate blog- check
lying- check
sources- check

Congratulations, Steve! You hit more of your recycled complaints this time around. Now let's delve into your hypocrisy:

"attack on someone"
Yes, you are definitely accountable for that.

"deflect and distract"
Yeah, I noticed you refuse to answer questions or contribute anything substantive because, "I'm here to abuse the participants in this hate fest, you dumbass."

"Jason has for years attracted a fervent following who rapidly post vapid defenses against even harmless posts like mine earlier tonight."
And Wolter has you, a fervent follower rapidly posting vapid defenses against harmless criticism.

"Even if you hate your enemy, you must occasionally admit when they come up with a funny approach to attack you."
You mean like:
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/inventing-a-lost-episode-of america-unearthed-unicorns-in-america?

Or how about Jason's Dan Brown-style review:
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-america-unearthed-s02e07-secret-blueprint-of-america?

Your first comment on the above linked post was:
"There you have it. We learn in the first paragraph that this episode is ALL ABOUT JASON:

'Alan Butler and Scott Wolter—have tried to sue me.'"

Where was that sense of humor, Steve? See, I don't think anyone here actually hates you, but, you are the one who is calling us your enemies. You just don't have any moral high ground, Steve.

Weatherwax
4/12/2017 02:21:24 pm

"Even if you hate your enemy, you must occasionally admit when they come up with a funny approach to attack you."

If it's actually funny and meaningfull, yes.

But an 8 year interrupting adults to make fart jokes, no.

Clint Knapp
4/12/2017 05:37:23 pm

You know, Steve's right about one thing: I've been hiding behind a fake name. It's actually Clinton on my birth certificate, but when your parents are big Clint Eastwood fans that last syllable gets dropped unless you're six and in a lot of trouble.

Of course, it's still a more complete reflection of my given name than "StC"... but maybe that's what his parents called him?

An Over-Educated Grunt
4/12/2017 08:12:48 pm

HELLO MISTAR SANCLAIR I AM VERAY INTARESTED IN SANCLAIR DNA BECAUSE MY COUSAN WAS LAST KING OF SCOYLAND IDI AMIN DADA YOU ARE GREAT STRONG INTARNET MAN LIKE COUSIN DO YOU THINK YOU MAY ALSO BE CUSAN SANCLAR?

Brian
4/11/2017 02:51:28 pm

It's really discouraging that Rolling Stone's reporter seems even less capable than Levenda et al. It seems like believing even the slightest bit of this fringe nonsense lowers your IQ by double digits and takes away basic language skills.

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Americanegro
4/11/2017 03:04:48 pm

As a great man once said, "Your mastery of the Internet has created a following for sure, but like a lot of miss-guided [sic] ventures, be careful what you wish for. Your attempts to undermine me personally have only hardened my resolve."

Just padding while Cap'n Steve sleeps off the grog.

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Shane Sullivan
4/11/2017 03:05:23 pm

I can't say I'm surprised that Rolling Stone would publish this trash. I used to have a subscription; the whole magazine consisted of depressing human interest stories and naive political commentary buffered by the occasional story about Deadmau5's latest single.

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Americanegro
4/12/2017 02:09:19 am

I used to enjoy seeing Loggins and Messina's girlfriends topless and Linda Ronstadt in pink panties back when she was hot. William Greider's political pieces were particularly good.

And in recent years they travelled back in time and prevented every rape at UVa.

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Shane Sullivan
4/12/2017 11:06:07 am

I admit, that last part was impressive.

Kal
4/11/2017 04:23:37 pm

If a name is found misspelled, and caught by the editor, the article is not going to print. If they allowed it to go to print misspelled, then that shows some editor was not paying attention.

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Americanegro
4/11/2017 06:28:24 pm

"If a name is found misspelled, and caught by the editor, the article is not going to print."

Sounds like a lie.

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Tom Mellett
4/11/2017 07:50:01 pm

. . unless there is a serious conspiracy afoot! On Levenda's FB page, someone named Donald wrote in that the misspelling was deliberate, though he only believed it to be a sign of disrespect for Peter. However, I had to apprise Donald and Levenda of a much more sinister conspiracy lurking like Lovecraft behind the misspelling, so I wrote this:

-------------------

Yes Peter, I heartily agree with Donald that the misspelling of your name is deliberate, but I believe it has much more sinister ramifications. Indeed I believe that the Deep State enemies of your and Tom's efforts at disclosure are being met forcefully with an actual Mandela Effect attack on you.

All it takes is the shifting of one vowel to another and you will be catapulted into another universe where disclosure never happens!

http://www.news.com.au/.../ac488ee2426335f09d781f50c26ba33a

When you recall the cereal box of your youth, was it spelled FROOT LOOPS? Or: FRUIT LOOPS?

Tom Mellett
4/11/2017 04:37:43 pm

Jason,

I can definitely verify for you that the person who looks like Peter Levenda in that video is indeed Peter Levenda himself. I quote from a private email exchange I had with him last January 30 when I directly asked him about his participation in that program.

Here is his response:

--------------------

James Wasserman: I have known him for decades. He is in the OTO (no, not “the Pope”; that dubious distinction goes to a guy named Bill Breeze). I am not a member, never was.

As I have stated more than once, I have not joined any occult order, secret society, initiatory body of any kind. Jim and I do not see eye to eye on many things, including politics and religion. But I have known him forever.

When he asked me to participate in the “Secret Societies” documentary, I was happy to do so, as a friend. I wrote a foreword for one of his books, and he wrote a foreword for one of mine (in which he accused me of being a “heretic” vis-à-vis his understanding of Aleister Crowley and Thelema by the way)."

-----------------------

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Kal
4/12/2017 03:29:58 pm

Steve StC, we know you are trolling, since 2013. We also know you cannot possibly be the blogger St Clare, as his writing is similar but far better researched. You don't actually have a blog, so you come here to harass others.

Really there are better things to do with life than patrol blogas looking to troll.

A critical thinking and an argumentation course might help.

Perhaps some time off commenting, and some kind of help might also.

Commenters cannot be taken to task for libel on a blog. It would not become an actionable case.

The real Steve St Clare will be notified of your impersonating his name and blog as a commenter here.

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